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Can anyone tell me where I can buy a shotgun that only will hold 3 shots without the plug.
Why do we have to Plug our Shotguns
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You will find it hard to find one that is designed to only hold three rounds unless you buy one of those more expensive one that are mainly used for duck hunting,My winchester was designed for duck hunters so it only holds three round no plug needed,but it think most of your pump will be a six shooter with a wooden dow for the plug.good luck on you search.
Why do we have to Plug our Shotguns ?
"We review accident reports annually looking for causes and trends that can be addressed by changes in our mandatory hunter education program and by regulation changes. It is our opinion that an increasing number of accidents have occurred over the last five years because the hunters involved had no limits on the number of deer slugs in their firearms. In some cases, this may have encouraged them to continue shooting at deer when the shot selections were somewhat questionable," said Budzik.
News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 2, 1999
FEWER SHOTS TO BE AIMED AT DEER DURING GUN SEASON
COLUMBUS - The Ohio Division of Wildlife has proposed a new rule that will limit hunters to a maximum of three deer slugs in their firearm while hunting deer during the statewide gun season.
Current regulations do not limit the number of deer slugs that may be loaded into shotguns. A deer slug is a shotgun shell comprised of a small piece of soft lead generally weighing 1 to 1½ ounces. Hunters may also use a muzzleloading rifle of at least .38 caliber or larger, a muzzleloading shotgun capable of shooting a single ball, five specific types of handguns, longbows, and crossbows during Ohio's deer gun and primitive seasons.
High-powered rifles and shotgun shells not containing a deer slug may not be used when hunting deer in Ohio.
The proposal was included among other proposed hunting and trapping rules and season dates presented February 17 to the Ohio Wildlife Council by wildlife agency chief Michael J. Budzik. It is similar to an existing rule that prohibits hunters from taking migratory birds, including waterfowl and mourning doves, with shotguns capable of holding more than three shot shells.
"While hunting is one of the safest of all outdoor activities, we have a responsibility to continue our efforts to reduce property damage and hunter injury incidents," said Michael Budzik, Division of Wildlife chief.
"We review accident reports annually looking for causes and trends that can be addressed by changes in our mandatory hunter education program and by regulation changes. It is our opinion that an increasing number of accidents have occurred over the last five years because the hunters involved had no limits on the number of deer slugs in their firearms. In some cases, this may have encouraged them to continue shooting at deer when the shot selections were somewhat questionable," said Budzik.
The Division of Wildlife estimates as many as 400,000 to 450,000 people hunt deer in Ohio each year. Hunting incidents involve an average of 15 people each deer season.
Another proposal made to the Wildlife Council will amend the current hunter orange rule to require hunters to wear a solid hunter orange jacket or vest during the statewide deer gun and primitive seasons. At present, hunters must visibly wear a hat, cap, jacket or vest colored hunter orange.
"Our goal is to have the torso covered with solid hunter orange. Many hunters already choose to wear more orange than is required and this should make them more visible to each other while outdoors," said Budzik. "A lot has been done over the years to improve and maintain hunter safety nationwide. With the thousands of people who participate in hunting, there will always be a very few cases in which property is damaged or someone is injured. Our proposals are designed to maintain the safety of an activity which continues to rank among the safest of all outdoor activities," said Budzik.
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For Further Information Contact:
Dave Wilson or John Wisse
Division of Wildlife
(614) 265-6539
"We review accident reports annually looking for causes and trends that can be addressed by changes in our mandatory hunter education program and by regulation changes. It is our opinion that an increasing number of accidents have occurred over the last five years because the hunters involved had no limits on the number of deer slugs in their firearms. In some cases, this may have encouraged them to continue shooting at deer when the shot selections were somewhat questionable," said Budzik.
News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 2, 1999
FEWER SHOTS TO BE AIMED AT DEER DURING GUN SEASON
COLUMBUS - The Ohio Division of Wildlife has proposed a new rule that will limit hunters to a maximum of three deer slugs in their firearm while hunting deer during the statewide gun season.
Current regulations do not limit the number of deer slugs that may be loaded into shotguns. A deer slug is a shotgun shell comprised of a small piece of soft lead generally weighing 1 to 1½ ounces. Hunters may also use a muzzleloading rifle of at least .38 caliber or larger, a muzzleloading shotgun capable of shooting a single ball, five specific types of handguns, longbows, and crossbows during Ohio's deer gun and primitive seasons.
High-powered rifles and shotgun shells not containing a deer slug may not be used when hunting deer in Ohio.
The proposal was included among other proposed hunting and trapping rules and season dates presented February 17 to the Ohio Wildlife Council by wildlife agency chief Michael J. Budzik. It is similar to an existing rule that prohibits hunters from taking migratory birds, including waterfowl and mourning doves, with shotguns capable of holding more than three shot shells.
"While hunting is one of the safest of all outdoor activities, we have a responsibility to continue our efforts to reduce property damage and hunter injury incidents," said Michael Budzik, Division of Wildlife chief.
"We review accident reports annually looking for causes and trends that can be addressed by changes in our mandatory hunter education program and by regulation changes. It is our opinion that an increasing number of accidents have occurred over the last five years because the hunters involved had no limits on the number of deer slugs in their firearms. In some cases, this may have encouraged them to continue shooting at deer when the shot selections were somewhat questionable," said Budzik.
The Division of Wildlife estimates as many as 400,000 to 450,000 people hunt deer in Ohio each year. Hunting incidents involve an average of 15 people each deer season.
Another proposal made to the Wildlife Council will amend the current hunter orange rule to require hunters to wear a solid hunter orange jacket or vest during the statewide deer gun and primitive seasons. At present, hunters must visibly wear a hat, cap, jacket or vest colored hunter orange.
"Our goal is to have the torso covered with solid hunter orange. Many hunters already choose to wear more orange than is required and this should make them more visible to each other while outdoors," said Budzik. "A lot has been done over the years to improve and maintain hunter safety nationwide. With the thousands of people who participate in hunting, there will always be a very few cases in which property is damaged or someone is injured. Our proposals are designed to maintain the safety of an activity which continues to rank among the safest of all outdoor activities," said Budzik.
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For Further Information Contact:
Dave Wilson or John Wisse
Division of Wildlife
(614) 265-6539
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If you cant kill one in three shots
I always deer hunt with a single shot, it dont effect me
I always deer hunt with a single shot, it dont effect me
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They done it for the trees! 4 will cut a decent size tree down, but 3 will leave it standing!
In all seriousness, the military went to "3 round" burst also due to after 3 your outta control and probably won't hit "squat" anyway.
Nothing worse than gun hunting for deer, sitting at the base of a tree and about 80 yards away someone unloads 6-8 rounds at a deer running right at you...that's the day I quit gun hunting, still drives me crazy to think about it.
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In all seriousness, the military went to "3 round" burst also due to after 3 your outta control and probably won't hit "squat" anyway.
Nothing worse than gun hunting for deer, sitting at the base of a tree and about 80 yards away someone unloads 6-8 rounds at a deer running right at you...that's the day I quit gun hunting, still drives me crazy to think about it.
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Heard that Oldhat! I trained on the old A-1 where you could flip it to full auto. If it wasnt jamming it was walking all over the place. As for the A-2 and the 3-rd. burst on your selector switch it was alot better. Heck, the entire gun was better and alot less jamming.
You only need one shot anyway dear_hunter! What do you need so many shots for?
You only need one shot anyway dear_hunter! What do you need so many shots for?
you can believe what you want ... american is becoming more and more afraid of guns everyday .. they teach guns are bad in school, but they won't teach "one nation under god" It is an attack on rights to bear arms .. just another way to limit magazine capacity. If you limit mag capicities then the manufactures will eventually quit making 5 and 6 six round guns ... Do you need them .. probably not, should they be outlawed .. who knows ... I wonder how many people have acutally been shot with the 4th 5th or 6th shot out of a shotgun. The antis couldn't stand the fact that there were some high cap mags out there is semi auto and pump shotguns under the guise of slug guns.. I don't want to get debate over this but what are they going to do next make me plug my 44mag because it holds 6 rounds .. I wonder if you guys would feel the same way if the put governors on your cars so you could only go 55mph on the highway so we all could feel safer ... I say if you get shot with a shotgun .. first you have been shot by an idiot. second, you have been shot on the first shot .... and last but not least ... would it matter if he only had 2 more rounds left ..
I think 3 shots is enough personally. I don't hunt with a shotgun, but I would think that if there was a deer running and a person was shooting at it, and the shots were coming in my direction, as some peopel on this site have had, I would not want the person to have 5 or 6 shots. It would scare the crap out of me!
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I don't need more than one shot, the shotgun was built to hold five. It's just that they will keep changing this law and that law little by little untill we will not have our given right to bear arms. I see it coming to the good old USA just like many other countries where you are ordered by law to turn in all of your guns, then they have a big pile of guns that will get melted down. As for myself I don't want to turn in guns that were given to me from my father or my Grandfather and so on.
Fight for the little things we want to keep, because if we don't will loose everything. All hunters need to look at the big picture.
I don't need more than one shot, the shotgun was built to hold five. It's just that they will keep changing this law and that law little by little untill we will not have our given right to bear arms. I see it coming to the good old USA just like many other countries where you are ordered by law to turn in all of your guns, then they have a big pile of guns that will get melted down. As for myself I don't want to turn in guns that were given to me from my father or my Grandfather and so on.
Fight for the little things we want to keep, because if we don't will loose everything. All hunters need to look at the big picture.
I couldn't agree more Deer hunter ... I will never voluntarily give up one of my rights. I personally would like to see some of the rights of the media taken away ... time and time again I see on the news or read in newspapers things about guns and hunting that just simply are not true, the people saying them know they are not true, but they are excersing their right of free speech. Which no one ever admits .... Was brought about by some very well ARMED men. I would like to see laws enacted that would punish these people and their corporations and hold them accountable for the slander they broadcast.. The real problem is that there isn't enough land to hunt anymore ... everyone is crammed into one week of hunting .... That is where the danger lies not in the amount of slugs in a mans gun. I know there are idiots out there ... but once again the solution is to take away the rights of everyone to make up for someone elses bad judgement... This goes way beyond how many shots it takes to kill a deer, or how good of a shot you are... in reality you don't need no where near the energy of a 12ga shotgun to kill a deer at 60 yards .... Sooner or later someone will challenge that, shotgun slugs are getting more and more powerful ... a regular 12ga slug fully penetrates a deer out to 100 yards ... Just food for thought
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