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i hear ya, my farmer where i hunt said they have been hammering in the back real good. was done by Tuesdays last season a 26 lb and a 25lb close to 11 in beard and the other a 10. I'm the only guy who hunts this place. can't get out till Saturday because of work , going to miss my first opening day in forever but i cant complain.just hope the weather is wrong, saying rain on the weekends.We have 2 need 2 more but will go with just us, we may just have to hold out for the double bearded birds with 3 inch spurs.