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Looking for suggestions for a solid performing muzzleloader. Price not really an issue but would like a muzzloader that I can count on ever season.
 

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I've owned several makes and models, and still do-but I'm partial to my TC Encore. Shoots well and consistent. I like the balanced feel of the gun as well and fits well in my hands. You can get some more info in the Blackhorn 209 Blackpowder thread.
 

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My CVA is just what you described... But if I was you I would buy a Nice SCOPE! That is what has let me down in the past...
 

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I'll admit to being very partial towards T/C guns. I own a bunch and there have been few problems. T/C's will retain value better if you take care of them.

CVA seems to be producing better stuff now but I can't get past some of the garbage they made in the past.
 

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See if you can find a Knight Disc Elite. They made them in 45 and 50 caliber. They are a fine shooting rifle. If you find one convert it to shoot blackhorn 209 powder with a non full plastic jacket breech plug. Lehigh makes them for the Knight rifles.
 

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I have a triumph bone collector with a 3x9 leupold ultimate slam and I would reccomend the combo to anyone who's looking..good out to 300 yards without question
 

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Looking for suggestions for a solid performing muzzleloader. Price not really an issue but would like a muzzloader that I can count on ever season.
I used this one two years ago. This is a Knight disc extreme. This is not my gun but I believe an advertisment photo. Mine has a thumb hole stock however mine has the same laminated color layout. This weapon is a tack driver and will key hole at 100 yds. If you miss with this gun, it's your fault not the weapons. I have sense purchased a Knight Mountaineer in 50 cal and burl wood stock, 25th Anniversary Edition. Both guns have Fluted, Cyro'ed Green Mountain Barrels. I have photo's of the AE on my cell, taken in Shawnee State Forest and will upload them if I can. There are alot of great ML out there in just about every price range. Your choice could be very basic to over the top fancy.:D

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I used this one two years ago. This is a Knight disc extreme. This is not my gun but I believe an advertisment photo. Mine has a thumb hole stock however mine has the same laminated color layout. This weapon is a tack driver and will key hole at 100 yds. If you miss with this gun, it's your fault not the weapons. I have sense purchased a Knight Mountaineer in 50 cal and burl wood stock, 25th Anniversary Edition. Both guns have Fluted, Cyro'ed Green Mountain Barrels. I have photo's of the AE on my cell, taken in Shawnee State Forest and will upload them if I can. There are alot of great ML out there in just about every price range. Your choice could be very basic to over the top fancy.:D

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Shawnee late season ML hunt. Pictures of the 25th AE and the Disc Extreme, both 50 cal.

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Ok-I'll play too RG-

Here's the Stainless TC Encore with 2x7 Leupold Vari X III scope on a January Muzzleloader hunt on private land here in the great state of ohio :D





 

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Most muzzle loaders priced at $250 and above will shoot great if the owner practices and is consistent with loads. The problem comes when people cant decide on one bullet and a specific type of powder at a certain weight. In other words, somebody who shoots a cartridge high power rifle well, can really screw up with a muzzle loader.
 

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Ok-I'll play too RG-

Here's the Stainless TC Encore with 2x7 Leupold Vari X III scope on a January Muzzleloader hunt on private land here in the great state of ohio :D





Alright John, you are a much better photog than I am. I was freezing my butt off when I took those pictures Last January. It was snowing and blowing so much the week before ML season, I parked my rear inside. I haven't killed anything with this new gun except a few targets. I'll be back up there again this year to give it another try.

The Lead Sled showed up yesterday and I'm putting it together right now.

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Most muzzle loaders priced at $250 and above will shoot great if the owner practices and is consistent with loads. The problem comes when people cant decide on one bullet and a specific type of powder at a certain weight. In other words, somebody who shoots a cartridge high power rifle well, can really screw up with a muzzle loader.
Goog point. I've worked up a bullet, sabot, primer and powder charge for these guns. I stick to those component and have put in practice time to hone my skills.

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The latest ad says CVA guarantees the Optima will outshoot any other muzzleloader, or your money back.

I wonder what their definition of outshoot is?

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I believe its the accura.. or that's Wht it was last year on there web site when I ordered my powerbelts. I have a cva wolf with the quick release breech plug toped with a bushenel (spell??) Banner scope I took two deer over 150yrds away last season I don't think u could go wrong with either a tc or cva go look at them both find the one that fits u best!!!

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I just saw the commercial, I could be mistaken. Regardless, it did look like a nice firearm for sure!

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Sportsmans guide has the CVA electra on clearance.But only in blue/black combo under 200$,they was 400$ or so when they first hit the market..Its the non 209 primer electronic ignition model with the Bergara barrel..I shot a guys I used to work with an was very impressed with the trigger an accuracy..The trigger is really just a switch,it felt amazing..If I had the cash I would pick one up..The black stock on them has a splatter paint look,which looks like crap IMO..But after he figured out the what loads it likes he was getting 1 3/4 to 2in groups off a bench at 200yrds..3/4 to just under a inch at 100yrds..It might be worth doing some research on
 

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Ok-I'll play too RG-

Here's the Stainless TC Encore with 2x7 Leupold Vari X III scope on a January Muzzleloader hunt on private land here in the great state of ohio :D





Was there a gun in that picture? I couldn't help but stare at those rubs. Lol
 
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