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I'm with you on that one bottombouncer, but with todays slug guns and new sabot slugs you misewell have a rifle in your hand because they are just as accurate and powerful in the right hands of course.
 

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Your right. With all the improved sabots and slugs. The speeds are just going up and up. Soon the be right up there with the rifle.;)
 

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That is the reason I feel they need to address the shotgun rules to prohibit sabots and 3" shells. They are becoming more and more like rifles. You are correct that technology has made the current laws obsolete. The smokepole rules should be updated also because of technology.
 

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They allow straight walled bullets , which go up to a 45-70 cal. handgun. Isn't that load also used in a rifle?:rolleyes:
 

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That sure is a rifle round also,I agree that the smoke pole should be looked at more serious also they shoot just a flat as most rifles now a days.
As for handguns you can use any type of round you like full metal jackets if you like you do not need to use just semi walled cutters i wonder that my self so i asked the local game warden and he said i could use any type of round i liked i now use full metal jackets out of my 44 mag.
I agree they need to sit down a go over some of the laws or just update to modern time.I believe that most of the modern smoke pole ans slug gunswill out shoot a 30/30 any day at long distance so why not be allowed to use one.
 

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If I was hunting private land and nailed a deer with my .300 win mag took it to check how would they know I shot it with a high power?
 

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You got a good point there bottombouncer.I dont think they would ever now if you did not let the cat out of the bag but i'm sure it is done every year you just don't know about it.
 

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The place I hunt would be no risk to bullet flying further than intend. I sit in or next to a tree on a hill side which goes down and comes back up as soon as you hit the bottom. If I missed or it went through it would go straight into the ground.
 

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I've considered it. I'll wait 'til next year and hope that they allow lever action and straight walls. Otherwise it will give me an excuse to buy the Master Hunter in .45.........stainless with thumbhole........:eek: :D
 

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If you think a rifle will help your hunt then you probably need to look at other things. Like dress, wind, stand position ect. IMHO it isnt all that fun to blast a deer at 100 yards. Kinda boring. I could have had probably 20 this year if that were the case. I have hunted with a contender in 44 mag.

Just boils down to ethics or morality......When a guy is in the woods and no one is looking does he do the right thing????
 

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Ever shot a .410 slug gun? They are flat, fast and fairly accurate. I understand the reasoning for not allowing rifles tho, up North where I love and on the North western side of the state are pretty flat allowing bullets to potentially carry too far and cause harm. Ya, most of us are conscious when we hunt but I've been around the idiots who don't think twice about ripping off shots without checking the background and horizon first.
 

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I guess no one else ever thought about using a high power in Ohio.:confused: :rolleyes:

What would be more challenging? Seeing how close a deer will come to you or making a 100+ yard shot.....with any type of gun?
 

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100 yds. is not a challenge. 20 yds. is my game. Exciting is when you can hear then breathin and they don't know you are there.
 

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Ever seen those videos where a bear comes right up to a guy.......doesn't even know. And another where a moose does the same! Must be pretty good stuff.........then the guy jumped up and the moose about shi t himself:p
 

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Bottombouncer,

I'm a little confused.

You ask for straight wall rifle cartridges to be allowed for next year because they are allowed in pistol loads and you think they are similar to a modern slugs and muzzleloaders and then you talk about using your 300 win mag.

I hope that none of you that are saying that the sabots slugs and muzzleloaders are equal to a .270, 30-06, 7mm mag, 300 win mag. These are 4 of the most popular and most used rifles for deer hunting. No one should confuse the ballistics on these rifles with a shotgun shooting slugs!

What do you really want?

Kim
 

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I hope that none of you that are saying that the sabots slugs and muzzleloaders are equal to a .270, 30-06, 7mm mag, 300 win mag. These are 4 of the most popular and most used rifles for deer hunting. No one should confuse the ballistics on these rifles with a shotgun shooting slugs!
Kim you beat me to the punch ;)

Another question may just be what kind of example are or will you be setting for todays youths... Laws are laws & rules are rules so I simply cannot see any reason for ever breaking a single one...
If you really want to use your highpowered firearm talk to your local game warden and ask for a list of those who hold deer damage permits... This way you can use whatever firearm you would like and still be legal if someone would let you use their damage permits ;)
 

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I sure don't think anyone on here is that ignorant to think a sabot shoots like a .300 or anything of that sort. What I have heard/read is that many think that modern shotguns have greater accuracy/distance/velocity.
 
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