I have been a life long hunter. For the last 20 years very little has changed in October and November. You could always count on when the prerut would happen and the rut every year. The last few years though this seems to have changed. Has anyone else noticed the prerut seems to be much later in October, this year doesnt seem to really have started at all, and that the rut has seemed to be shorter? Rattling seems to be a strictly November thing now and mock scrapes seem to bring the big ones in a night but arent stimulating day time movement. And for those that have noticed and tried to adapt to the change what are you doing that is working?