Not sure if rrbski has posted this on this forum already..so in case he has'nt.. http://188.8.131.52/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31156 I saw these same baits out at Buckeye Outdoors, i thought to myself then that they would be just like all the rest of the American "store" baits..but after i read Bob's post abot them i got my monthly In-Fisherman that had another mag. with it that had lots of berkley tackle in it..and they have a nice article on the same power baits for carp as Bob as found. Only other "store" bought carp bait that i have used that WORKS is "Uncle Joshes" carp bait..its a simple mix and has worked very well in the past when i didnt want to take the time to prepare my own baits for a last min. trip. I have found he Uncle Joshes at stores like k-mart, wal-mart ,ect.