[Deehntr56]

Kansas Fish and Game Commission Bans Trail Cameras on Public Land-

On March 9, the Kansas Department of Park & Wildlife (KDPW) Fish and Game Commission voted to prohibit the use of all trail cameras (cellular and conventional) on public lands in the state. The ban, which drew unanimous support from the seven-member commission, will apply year-round on all public lands owned and managed by the state, and it will go into effect before for the upcoming fall hunting seasons.

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Kansas Fish and Game Commission Bans Trail Cameras on Public Land (msn.com)

 

[UNCLEMIKE]

Wow... thanks for posting John. Never would have guessed that extreme a measure. Cellular I can understand. All cameras is a big step. Guess more guys will move them up higher into the trees so they are out of sight. Pretty much near impossible to enforce.

 

[LouisvilleDeerHunter]

Well that sucks for those folks, but let's keep arguing about crossbows, bait, feeders, drives, archery season length and who's a "real hunter"....because I know those comments are coming, been here long enough.........infighting between sportsman kills us all

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[Beagle Huntsman]

I use them on my land, but would never be brave enough to put one on public land. Those things are expensive! I don’t think I have ever seen one on public land, but I do see occasional tree stands.

 

[tracker 6]

See them all the time on public. One of my dogs walked up to one once and looked right into the lens.would have liked to seen the look on that guys face.

 

[therealjmill]

Very interested to see what economic impact this has for the state. Non residents spend a lot of time / money and trail cameras help scout and save travel expenses. I doubt it would happen but maybe the state sees less revenue when hunters stop applying for tags.

 

[thornton]

Fwliw, only a portion of KS areas open to Public hunting would find trees and, fence posts might present real world problems.

On WIHAs, since those enrollments can change, there could be increased work and cost for state folks addressing complaints when Private = Public, no longer is and complaints follow.
Could be issues with camera folks seeking to profit off of images from Private land as well or, concerns with images put on social media involving non-consenting individuals.

That said, cameras can be expected everywhere afield now, some even work....one simply learns to grin and move on.

Deer hunters might just want to invest in good binoculars and gasoline tho.....this game camera deal seems like a comparable first world "hunting" problem. 🥱

 

[bluedog]

I saw this topic come across my twitter feed the other day. As someone old enough to remember hunting when there were no trail cams and as someone who only uses a couple for pure entertainment purposes and who could care less about anything about trail cams, my response is 🍿🍿🍿

😁

 

[tracker 6]

I saw this topic come across my twitter feed the other day. As someone old enough to remember hunting when there were no trail cams and as someone who only uses a couple for pure entertainment purposes and who could care less about anything about trail cams, my response is 🍿🍿🍿

😁

Yep !!!

 

[R. Toker]

I’m not taking the bait because I can’t expel anymore air arguing the nonsensical. Ban it all!!!! Back to the good ole days!! Buck only! 1 deer only! No cameras!! Ban gas stoves, ban cell cameras, ban crossbows, ban efficient washing machines! **** it!! There’s my stance. Oh I forgot ban baiting!!! Straight wall rifles only!! Wait we can do better! Flintlocks only!!! Glad I checked back in on this place.

 

[LouisvilleDeerHunter]

I read the above comments, and I'm not sure I understand.....I don't live in Kansas, I don't hunt deer on public land here.....But I care, I run trail cams (cellular and regular) on my land. you cant tell me with a straight face that a regular trail cam is a huge advantage ( it helps but not a game changer), you still have to pull cards (you know as above stated with the gasoline investment) and be in high traffic area (hhmm...like scouting those "real" hunters do)...so ok, if that was really the concern, they would ban cellular cams because us lazy bad hunters use them...... they banned them all......hhmmmm

for all you popcorn eaters here, there are organizations who want to ban hunting with dogs, training with live birds, bear hunting, predator hunting, trapping, farming, controlled hunts...…you all know this, I'm not telling anyone anything they don't know.

I don't find the idea of Deer drives or even Bear baiting all that appealing...but I will not support any restrictions on it...…a law in Kansas does affect me, one day they will come for what you love to do......then its too late....but till then enjoy your popcorn

 

[thornton]

I hate to take the bait....but I do not read that anyone praised the banning of trail cameras on KS public land because "real" hunters do not need them or, due to hunters gaining some extra advantage.
I personally noted it seemed a first world hunter issue....I thought that when a young pre-teen lad stopped by last fall with his grandfather and as his...phone...indicated a trail photo on my farm must have just been taken.
Pretty neat but...first world and heady info for a pre-teen just beginning, to me....and, kinda sad in some ways.

I believe a couple other reasons why the KS ban perhaps came about were suggested and personal opinions on the ban affecting themselves were noted....personal opinion hardly being anything needing to be stuffed in quiet closet or cherrypicked only when one agrees with it.

I do see that everytime the word "ban" occurs then thought too often stops beyond what...could...affect them or the popular fellow hunters.
Plainly put tho...not every ban equates to an ending of hunting.
Certainly, long ago game laws banning periods when game animals were unprotected began and some folks likely spit and spat that their world was ending.
Time has shown that bans on everything from hawks to harvest methods to time to volume to tool have come about....and, well done in the majority of cases, to me.

Yes, hunting with dogs sees complaints and proposed bans and, for me, legal ground sluicing of game birds is sad and problematic in some areas at some times and should be banned but I have no fear of any ban dooming free bird hunting.
Particulars matter tho 💡 and opinions or concern should be able to honestly side regional realities without running whining from a word.
"Mommy, some people said the worst thing today!".

Linking a ban with potential for destroying hunting.... ignores history.
Believing that every honestly presented counter opinion of a presently permitted action or simply considering why a change may be occurring rings wrong....is shortsighted, ime.

Raising issues that were never said or even intended....are bait of the lowest measure....I fell for it again. Oh, well.
I will support any ban in Ohio or the Upper Peninsula, IA or KS...IF, it makes some sense relative to the particulars it carries.....and, let Mommy worry about other stuff.

edited for spellin'

 

[R. Toker]

The hippie liberals walk too deep here. I’ll be back in the fall to defend our team deer championship but don’t look for me other than that. Like I said THE MOST ANTI KILLING HUNTING site on the web. Congrats, Steve.

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

The hippie liberals walk too deep here. I’ll be back in the fall to defend our team deer championship but don’t look for me other than that. Like I said THE MOST ANTI KILLING HUNTING site on the web. Congrats, Steve.

Won’t miss that attitude at all. He wants to turn every thread into an anti-liberal rant even when there is nothing “liberal” being said.

 

[R. Toker]

When they came for the Gypsies I wasn’t a Gypsie so I said nothing. When they came for the Christian’s I wasn’t a Christian so I said nothing. When they came for the Jews I wasn’t a Jew so I said nothing. When they came for me there was nobody left to fight for me.

 

[thornton]

Too few were there fighting for the ruffed grouse because too many were always elsewhere fighting for themselves....in the land where I & Me & Mine live.

It is a cruel joke to puff & pretend that help was but a group hug away, as history never fails to tell the true story, the honest story....of a need, a fight and, of an abandonment.

Simply put, in a fight imagined too great, often no one comes, of any stripe or badge or shallowly professed concern....be it student, adult or government drone.
Who knows tho...a ban may receive all the Press 😐 and bans do make folks all jiggly.

 

[therealjmill]

I find it interesting the one calling everyone else hippie liberals is essentially throwing a temper tantrum like a “hippie liberal”. My thoughts are this is a public forum where people can voice their opinion, not one of which on this thread seemed that far out there to me. Disagreement is a good thing and discussion from both sides is healthy and can breed progress and new ideas…… just one “hippie liberal’s” unsolicited opinion…..(even though I never even agreed with the ban)

 

[robertsirc]

This is a good thing. Wish more states did this.

 

[PeteM]

Sounds like it is more of a privacy issue with some hunters that may not want to have their picture taken on public land by some other hunter using the game camera then posting it on a public social media site vs the camera helping the hunter take game.

 

[robertsirc]

Sounds like it is more of a privacy issue with some hunters that may not want to have their picture taken on public land by some other hunter using the game camera then posting it on a public social media site vs the camera helping the hunter take game.

This is the exact reason, notify me I am being recorded. I am complete ok with people disabling game cams on public lands. I mean people left them out there they didn't want those trail cams anyways.