I will agree with the other gentleman its not fair to lump all gun hunters in one basket and label them morons, I believe the only 2 fatalities we had this year during deer season were done with bows, I think people that hunt are getting a bad rap in general...we are all considered dumb,drunken ********, running wild through the countryside hell bent on destruction, in my opinion a good part of the accidents that have occured the last few years have been caused by people who got careless while loading or unloading a weapon or with there safety and shot themselves in the foot or leg...not guys downing a 6 pack before heading out and shooting towards somebodies house or towards a road etc, even though there is the occasional idiot who make the thousands of hunters here in Ohio look bad by a single act of lunacy, I myself have have been hunting for 22 years now and I have never to my knowledge done anything unsafe, I have never been drunk in the field or with a gun, I rarely drink period, thats why it yanks my chain when people refer to all hunters...especially gun hunters as being dangerous, there are many a slob fisherman out there who trash our banks, abuse privelages given to them by gracious landowners, and basically SH#T all over our waterways...but those are the few...not the many, I never have thought about useing a 44,357,45LC out of a rifle for deer...but why not? its the same round, its not going to have any more distance out of a rifle than a handgun, it might be a bit more accurate, you can use TCs for deer as long as its in a legal caliber, TCs have barrels as long as 14", a Winchester or Marlin lever guns barrel might be 20", apples and oranges as far as I am concerned, but who knows what the ODNR will say?