Very true. I recently took my compound out for the first time in over a year as I have been using only my recurve and longbow. Had the bright idea to shoot groups and ended up with 3 trashed arrows. Good shooting but arrows aren’t cheap. The compounds of today are a lot different than the Bear Black Bear I started hunting with.
How to return ohio deer hunting to great status AGAIN
A look back 20-30 years ago will clearly show how our deer seasons went downhill———
Crossbow hunting went from handicap to all season long public use
call in/online deer check in (great for Amish and poachers)
over use of damage permits took some area herds down to nothing
brainwashing kill them all liberal 6 tag counties
I believe if the crossbow issue is corrected
Not saying to ban public use all together
Just not all season long
you correct these issues and the gun seasons will return, and no we don’t need bonus weekends, and definitely not added gun seasons, that’s insane at the present herd size
I think an earn a bick system should be considered along with a buck size limit
Buck to doe ratio is completely out of control
As the buck numbers and size are in serious decline
Crossbow hunting went from handicap to all season long public use
call in/online deer check in (great for Amish and poachers)
over use of damage permits took some area herds down to nothing
brainwashing kill them all liberal 6 tag counties
I believe if the crossbow issue is corrected
Not saying to ban public use all together
Just not all season long
you correct these issues and the gun seasons will return, and no we don’t need bonus weekends, and definitely not added gun seasons, that’s insane at the present herd size
I think an earn a bick system should be considered along with a buck size limit
Buck to doe ratio is completely out of control
As the buck numbers and size are in serious decline
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1- So you are supporting bounty hunting that proved to be the demise of many game animalsThis answer is simple...
1. Give some kind of incentive for people to kill coyotes. It was just within the last few years that dnr admitted the population was out of control and they didn't know what to do about it.
2. Raise the price of out of state tags and licenses.... tired of running into idiots from NC who blast everything that moves on land they don't have permission to be on. Have seen alot of spikes that were still warm after running these idiots off.
3. Put some damn regulations and requirements on these mouth breathing "guides"
4. Go back to a check system. The state makes so much money on tags ect there is no reason we can't get the check stations back and get real metal tags for the deer like we used to. Many are far to comfortable poaching because the state had made it so easy to lie and poach.
5. Give farmers incentives to keep or install fence rows. Stop letting them cut and burn all scrub brush on unfarmable ground.
2- Sounds like the problem is trespassing and not that they are from out of state. Ohio is now in line with other states. I pay the same amount in MO.
3- You want more government regulations of private businesses
4- Please provide PROOF of an increase in non-checking
5- I agree with the first part of this as it is in line with CRP. The second part is the government telling someone how they should reduce their profits.
And there he is....... knew one of you fools would jump on this.1- So you are supporting bounty hunting that proved to be the demise of many game animals
2- Sounds like the problem is trespassing and not that they are from out of state. Ohio is now in line with other states. I pay the same amount in MO.
3- You want more government regulations of private businesses
4- Please provide PROOF of an increase in non-checking
5- I agree with the first part of this as it is in line with CRP. The second part is the government telling someone how they should reduce their profits.
1. Yes your ignorance is showing as coyotes are invasive to ohio. Since the fur market is trash these days people do not target coyotes and the state has openly stated that their numbers are way out of check.
2. Yes trespassing is a big problem and dnr does not want to touch it because of the ammount of tags they sell which means more money. Our prices are not inline with other top whitetail states and to claim otherwise is ignorant.
3. Your strawman argument won't change my mind. These "small businesses" are causing alot of problems and exploiting a public resource. The fact is the vast majority of land in ohio is privately-owned and the so called guides don't give a damn who has permission to hunt it because "muh small business". They are some of the most unethical people I have ever met and openly brag about taking clients to private property to hunt because " the people with the lease won't be down this week or next." Other states have requirements and standards for guides why should we not as well? I assume your lame argument was an attempt to discredit me because you are either tied to a "guide" or claim to be one.
4. You don't seem like the type of person to listen to what others have to say and if you did you would realize that it's not just not checking deer but also the way the deer is taken. I have yet to see a bow or crossbow leave obvious gunshot wounds on deer during the run. If people had to take their deer and check it this would cut down on the illegal shooting of deer during archery and during gun season as well. A 30-06 hole looks way different than a 350 or 450 hole.
5. You can save your "poor farmer" argument for someone who does not know the game. Other states PAY the farmers to stop their cut and burn practice and leave fence lines alone. If 4 ft of scrub is going to make or break your farming business then you should seek a new profession.
When considering the first 16 words in your #4, that is an ironic lead-in line to a post.And there he is....... knew one of you fools would jump on this.
1. Yes your ignorance is showing as coyotes are invasive to ohio. Since the fur market is trash these days people do not target coyotes and the state has openly stated that their numbers are way out of check.
2. Yes trespassing is a big problem and dnr does not want to touch it because of the ammount of tags they sell which means more money. Our prices are not inline with other top whitetail states and to claim otherwise is ignorant.
3. Your strawman argument won't change my mind. These "small businesses" are causing alot of problems and exploiting a public resource. The fact is the vast majority of land in ohio is privately-owned and the so called guides don't give a damn who has permission to hunt it because "muh small business". They are some of the most unethical people I have ever met and openly brag about taking clients to private property to hunt because " the people with the lease won't be down this week or next." Other states have requirements and standards for guides why should we not as well? I assume your lame argument was an attempt to discredit me because you are either tied to a "guide" or claim to be one.
4. You don't seem like the type of person to listen to what others have to say and if you did you would realize that it's not just not checking deer but also the way the deer is taken. I have yet to see a bow or crossbow leave obvious gunshot wounds on deer during the run. If people had to take their deer and check it this would cut down on the illegal shooting of deer during archery and during gun season as well. A 30-06 hole looks way different than a 350 or 450 hole.
5. You can save your "poor farmer" argument for someone who does not know the game. Other states PAY the farmers to stop their cut and burn practice and leave fence lines alone. If 4 ft of scrub is going to make or break your farming business then you should seek a new profession.
Not sure I would consider coyotes as a true invasive species in Ohio.
In #5, are you meaning "PAY" as resulting from the various set-aside government programs?
You are correct, when you start with insults people generally don't care what you have to say. You say I won't change your mind and you're throwing insults so I'm not going to spend a lot of time answering you.And there he is....... knew one of you fools would jump on this.
1. Yes your ignorance is showing as coyotes are invasive to ohio. Since the fur market is trash these days people do not target coyotes and the state has openly stated that their numbers are way out of check.
2. Yes trespassing is a big problem and dnr does not want to touch it because of the ammount of tags they sell which means more money. Our prices are not inline with other top whitetail states and to claim otherwise is ignorant.
3. Your strawman argument won't change my mind. These "small businesses" are causing alot of problems and exploiting a public resource. The fact is the vast majority of land in ohio is privately-owned and the so called guides don't give a damn who has permission to hunt it because "muh small business". They are some of the most unethical people I have ever met and openly brag about taking clients to private property to hunt because " the people with the lease won't be down this week or next." Other states have requirements and standards for guides why should we not as well? I assume your lame argument was an attempt to discredit me because you are either tied to a "guide" or claim to be one.
4. You don't seem like the type of person to listen to what others have to say and if you did you would realize that it's not just not checking deer but also the way the deer is taken. I have yet to see a bow or crossbow leave obvious gunshot wounds on deer during the run. If people had to take their deer and check it this would cut down on the illegal shooting of deer during archery and during gun season as well. A 30-06 hole looks way different than a 350 or 450 hole.
5. You can save your "poor farmer" argument for someone who does not know the game. Other states PAY the farmers to stop their cut and burn practice and leave fence lines alone. If 4 ft of scrub is going to make or break your farming business then you should seek a new profession.
However, I will say:
#1- My comment was about the negative impact of bounty hunting on game animals. I never said anything about the population of coyotes
#2- Raising license costs and trespassing are two different issues. I happen to know several DNR officers and they are very active when it comes to trespassing complaints. Now, understanding that you need probable cause to charge someone with trespassing may help with the thought process that they do nothing about it.
#3- I would have no issue with the state creating laws regarding guide services
#4- I checked or watched a bunch of deer get checked in at a bunch of different check stations across the state and never did the person completing the paperwork or putting the tag on check the size of the hole in the deer. Neither did they care.
#5- I worked in a farm store for 4.5 years prior to starting my career and aside from the mega-farmers, most farmers don't make a huge amount of money. So yes, a 4' section of brush can make a huge difference.
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