since we simply buy licenses and deer permits there is no accurate way to know. The ODNR can tell you how many licensed hunters there are,and how many deer hunters there are, but not how many of those are bowhunters. Other states are bright enough to sell archery permits in order to get an actual count. Not here. Sorry but your guess will be as good as any opinion poll.
Pike.....The final figures are'nt out yet on the bowkills as our season runs till Jan. 31. They usually post est. hunters and total take but won't be untill sometime in Feb. All I could find was that hunters took over 33,000 during the first 6 weeks of the season
An estimated 450,000 took 133,163 during our gun season. An increase of 34% and I'm still seeing a lot of does around....TF
The deer in Licking county really took a beating this year. Last year at this time we had deer all around the house. This year no tracks and we havent see any since before christmas. Really sad I enjoyed watching them around the house.
I can assure you that the deer herd in Licking County is healthy and substantial. Your lack of recent sightings this year is more likely due to shift in feeding patterns from last year. Maybe a local farmer has rotated crops in a particular field and the deer are feeding elsewhere. They don't travel far this time of year as they are preserving energy. Also remember that last year's temps were considerably higher and therefore deer moved differently and at different times.
I'm missing your point. Are you saying that crossbows are an unfair advantage? Or that they lead to increased hunting pressure? I hunt alot, on private and public property, and I haven't seen any increases in bow hunters. I would be curious to see if our bowhunt harvest numbers have increased with the allowance of crossbows. I'm guessing not.
Either way, there are more deer in North America than EVER before at any period of time. Ohio's herd is commonly acknowledged as being healthy and stable. Ohio continues to consistently produce record class animals. I'll support our DNR and their choices as I believe they do a pretty darn good job of managing our herd.
Ohio Division of Wildlife shows that the sale of hunting liscences has steadily declined from 605,646 in 1974 to 343,078 in 2000,while bag limits for deer have increased. At this rate,I think we're going to need more crossbow hunters very soon or we'll have a real problem on our hands.
Andy, I can't really say that I agree with your statement. Why do you think that we specifcally need more crossbow hunters in the archery season?
In case you did not know it, the crossbow hunters are now killing more deer than the bowhunters. I could not find it now on the ODNR, website, but the last time I saw it there it was roughly a 55% -45% split with the crossbow hunters taking the larger percentage.
There has been a steady increase of hunter numbers on the private land I hunt on and the newcomers all shoot crossbows. Even though there are more deer on the farms I hunt , I still see less deer on the weekends due to the extra hunters in the woods and the hunting style they employ, which is stillhunting. These areas are really not worth my time to hunt on the weekends any more because they run all the deer out. I do most of my hunting during the week now and I see loads of deer when the weekend crossbow warriors are not in the woods.
How did a simple question on how many hunters who use bows become a flaming of hunters who use crossbows?
We need more hunters period. When is the last time you guys introduced somebody to hunting and it's joys? Instead of being bitter take someone to an range and let them shoot a gun,a bow or even a crossbow .
Wait some of you want to be the only hunter in the state. So forget about it I guess
Come on guys lets leave your choice of weapons here alone,Lets not turn this into another site that i used to visit thats all they do over there is bash each other because of what they decide they want to hunt with.We are all hunters here.
I'm not trying to start any kind of cross bow vs. compound thing. My point was that there are fewer deer hunters in Ohio and that number continues to decline. I think we need to have more ARCHERY hunters to be able to consistently manage our herd. I have introduced three people into bow hunting in the last two years. They all shoot crossbows, and I'm darn happy to have them in the woods. They are conservation minded guys who have jobs and families and don't have the time to practice with a bow several days a week. I think no more or less of them in regards to their weapon of choice.
No disrespect, but I don't really care what the percentage of cross bow to compound kill is. Why is that important? You can still only shoot to 40 yards. I don't get the correlation or the importance of that stat.
As far as your private land being overrun with crossbow guys, I think your issue should be with the landowner who is permitting addittional hunters on the land. Would it really make a difference if these newcomers were shooting recurves? Do the deer somehow know that these guys have crossbows and that adversely affects their movement? I realize your point about the stillhunting, but a guy can still hunt with a recurve just the same if not more effectively.
Please don't assume that I'm bashing/defending anyone here. I just would like to see more guys in Ohio get into bowhunting. If they want to use crossbows and are ethical hunters, I'm all for it.
Take care and good luck in Licking County. I hope you can work out a win/win with your landowner and newcomers.
why should xbow hunters be eliminated from archery season.?there is more information that shows they are an archery weapon and for that matter,much longer than the compound has .now i think some here are greedy and don't want to share or maybe jealous because some are sucessful.i could state since i'm a trad that the compound crowded the woods since it became legal too.but we nreed tio share with others.there is more proof that a xbow is an archery weapon than a gun weapon.people like fred bear ,jim daughrty etc. even have chapters about it in their ARCHERY bibles and digests.the key words are archery,not bowhunting.an xbow is not a bow,its a xbow,a compound is not a bow its a compound bow.and i guess you could say the same about a recrve but a longbow,hmmmm.we're all archery.george user of recurves and longbows from the 60's.
George, You and I have had many conversations over on bowsite. Have you changed your tune over here at Ohio Sportsman? Over at bowsite, you have said more than once how you "hate" the compound bow. You have also expressed your ill feelings towards the crossbow over there too. You say you do not like the modern gadgets that they have to offer.
However, when the gun seasons roll around you grab that very modern in-line muzzleloader of yours and head for the deer woods. You even stated on another thread that you use a certain type of bowfishing reel that you thought was traditional. But, you hunt deer with the modern in-line muzzleloader. How do you expect to have any credibility about anything with your double standards?
arrow one,i don't care abut credibility.those that truely know me know i'm truthful and as ethical as i claim.yes its true i am in love with the recurve and the longbow and as long as i am able that is what i will use.the other stuff is not my bag,pure and simple.i have said over and over that i support the odnr and the decision to put xbows in ARCHERY season.i have never wavered from this position even though it goes against the grain of many of my trad. buddies and probably the main reason i am not a member of the elitist club far as they are concerned.i also believe there is not a lot of difference with effective range of the xbow and compound.that i will test this year to satisfy myself.i think most on here know my position and as a hunter i think we should get along together.i don't want to get in to a who knows the most again with you because that is one reason i came here and the nit pickin om this subject over on that site did nothing but bad for ARCHERY.I AM not hiding anything from anyone.and those that know me which is a lot will or can vouch for my honesty.i will hunt with any ethical hunter no matter what they hunt with.oh and yes i happen to love my inline muzz that i use only in shotgun season/stand only.
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