[R. Toker]

I could address some of this lunacy but I’ve just learned to use the ignore feature. They walk among us. The liberal gun owning hunter is the strangest of all creatures on planet earth. Good thing we all only have 10 years to live. And it’s never been 55 degrees in February before. Ever. Trying to justify ole man river Biden and that insane little girl who’s being used by her communist parents is a bridge too far for anyone.

 

[R. Toker]

ODNR posted on Twitter about this and I asked them if we can have a no close season for Raccoons. But of course ODNR never responded to that.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618617114335784962

You mean to tell me extreme weather was happening 46 years ago??!!!!! Probably the oil companies fault.

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

Typical responses from the Far Right Climate Change Denial folks. It doesn’t take a liberal to see it happening, but it helps not to be closed minded.

 

[R. Toker]

“Joe Biden banned mining in 225,000 acres of Minnesota's Iron Range, and locked up development of taconite, copper, nickel, cobalt, platinum-group elements, and more," Stauber also said in the committee statement. "Unfortunately, this harm to our country and our future has become the norm, as this president’s goal is to put America last."

What are those electric vehicle batteries made out of again? Don’t worry the Chinese will sell them to us soon as they take their spy balloon down.

 

[Turkinator]

Climate change is real, it’s called weather. To blame it on man is nothing but another globalist money/ power

Climate change is no "myth".

transfer scheme

 

[Turkinator]

She is a useful idiot that the liberals have used till she is irrelevant to anyone except the morbidly liberal

Asperger’s syndrome, not autism. Very impressive young lady. Walks the talk.

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

Climate change is real, it’s called weather. To blame it on man is nothing but another globalist money/ power


transfer scheme

Ignorance is bliss, they say.

 

[Turkinator]

Man alive Multiflora , as if we didn’t have enough liberals to deal with over on SGW!!!!

 

[Turkinator]

Yes , you biden voting liberals prove it daily

Ignorance is bliss, they say.

 

[Turkinator]

Dementia joe’s voters are, if possible, bigger idiots than anti gun dementia joe

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

I am doubtful that near 100% of the climate scientists WORLDWIDE are all "liberals". You hardly have to be a liberal to notice the undeniable signs of climate change all around us. You just need to have your head above the sand. Of course, the Far Right won't believe anything until Tucker Carlson says it is so.

 

[Turkinator]

And what “undeniable signs” of climate change are there? A goofy little girl who was jinned up by her liberal parents ? Lurch Kerry? Algore? Or maybe the discredited “hockey stick graph? Liberals are the only ones pushing this climate lie.

 

[Beagle Huntsman]

Debating with you, Turk, is just not worth my time. Your Far Right group just wants to call everyone else a “liberal” and dismiss them, even when you are in the minority in your beliefs. Enjoy your mild winter. And the likely early spring, rainy summer (hope for no big bad flooding storms), late frost next fall, and another record setting year for warmth. No need to get out the snow shovel or your tractor to plow that driveway. Maybe occasionally, but not as often these days, and even less often in future years. Keep your mower blades sharpened for that summer (warm season) grass that never stops growing. Don’t turn on your TV this year - you might hear about climate trends you can’t explain, or about a big hurricane fed by those warm Gulf waters. If drought anywhere west of the Mississippi doesn’t affect your Kroger bill too much this year, maybe you can look into an exciting new EV (love that torque) or some solar panels for your house….or not. But you can discuss all this with someone else, not me. You already know all about it, or think you do….SMH. Keep your head in the sand and let Mother Nature deal with it all.
BH out.

 

[Turkinator]

I will enjoy whatever weather God gives us! You on the other hand, will no doubt keep following those who have deceived you into this climate change delusion. So mask up beagle, get your umpteenth booster, plug in your electric car, your wokeness is an inspiration to us MAGA Neanderthals . Well, maybe not an inspiration, but at least your liberal opinions are too ridiculous to be an irritation.

 

[thornton]

Not sure why but, to go back to the initial point re game birds in Ohio.

The ruffed grouse in Ohio were not put into the position they occupy by reasons of climate fluctuations or change....they were placed there, from their untenable position of artificially high populations, by reasons of forest aging, habitat loss and invasion, declines in Corporate activities and at least six other main reasons flush immediately to mind.

The bobwhite quail, as before, evidenced the expected ups & downs of a species on the comparable edge of their range, with both Bonasa U and the bobwhite being weak birds, tho weak for different reasons. No climate as #1 with Gentleman Bob....in Ohio, Georgia or Texas.
Once again, multiple black hats existed and exist.

The pheasant, albeit the strongest and perhaps the most adaptable of the trio, declined from, essentially, a change in it's manufactured world...as experienced in PA and elsewhere. Differences totally defined by the blessings or curses of that elsewhere.

I hope there is little need to go thru the fate of the prairie chicken in Ohio...so, enough of reality....other than our national forests mouldered under both political parties.

Also, to that initial point...game organizations have a role to play for a couple birds, if they choose and hopefully for the right reasons, in the new world we all wake up to every blessed day....both human and critter.

 

[Deehntr56]

After the two cold and snowy back to back winters in 1977-1978 the Upland bird numbers struggled some more. Man do I remember those two winters. The numbers were already on the decline and those two winters didn't help it. But as mother nature has done for centuries, the winters in the early 80's were above normal in some years and snow levels were below normal. I remember New Years eve in 1983 wearing T-shirts and light jackets and the winter being very mild.

"The winter of 1982-83 in Ohio was out of the norm. December was extremely mild and rainy with several Ohio weather stations recording December and winter records for maximum temperatures. Temperatures remained above normal during January and February throughout Ohio while precipitation was below normal. Ohio experienced one of its mildest winters of the 20th century. "

You would think that the bird population would rebound somewhat with the good weather back then, but they continued to struggle then and now. Since then predators in many forms have increased and IMO this is the one area that is affecting numbers as well, and Rabbit numbers along with other small game and wildlife are affected. We have record numbers of Hawks and Eagles along with growing populations of Coyotes, Bobcats and Raccoons. Trapping controlled some of this in the past, but fur prices have affected that as well.

Not many have the answers on what to do, but doing something to it's fullest extent in re-establishing quality habitat and protecting populations for growth is needed., and I think we have taken a half ass approach so far over the last several decades and it really hasn't helped.

In depth studies in the field here on why it is not working and studies in the field in states where it is working so we can produce positive results and turn this around. Boot leather in the field is needed to gather sound reasons why and then apply what can help and move in a positive direction.

 

[jrose]

Thanks for the correction....I thought that syndrome was in the autism spectrum, perhaps not.
Were I more concerned, I would look it up.

I do not find her impressive, I do find her limited in both thought and experience, which are exactly the attributes necessary for her particular spokesman role.
However, rather than "walking the walk"...she really is just taking the easy path for pleasing her particular high-five crowd.
She found the applause, in other words.....now, I hope she eventually finds herself.

Typical responses from the Far Right Climate Change Denial folks. It doesn’t take a liberal to see it happening, but it helps not to be closed minded.

I'm still waiting on the "Ice age" to hit that they predicted when i was just a lad.

 

[jrose]

Where there is a will there is a way. 50 years ago we had few deer and fewer turkey. Great effort and resources were combined for the success we have today. I see little or none of these being utilized at this juncture for quail.

 

[R. Toker]

A mild winter 40 years ago????? To hell you say!! Why didn’t we panic and destroy our entire fossil fuel industry back then?

 

[Huntinpete]

The issue has hardly escaped everyday attention, since many of us have lived it.

Research?, good grief....other than re recent possible health aspects, what is needed for gamebird recoveries or, better put, a flattening of the downward trends, has been known for decades upon decades.
This latest interest is most about banquet tables, as Job #1.....research is simply a feel-good word meant for Public consumption and money generation.

Some game "organizations", like the RGS, sadly defined themselves by their inaction and write-off attitude....others, like PF, continue to play a very important position in their own comparably easy game.
The time for most research tho is past....it is even past the time to utilize proven research for some species.
I lost faith in a guvmint appreciation for the value of research when I saw the ODNR bug out of the ACGRP before the study was even completed....and that was nearly a quarter century ago.

Before too many get all birdy over quail.....Ohio remains on the very edge of viability for that species and weather will continue to call the shots for that bird. Habitat will never overcome Ohio being a marginal section of the bobwhite's range...no matter that many of us saw reasonable tho fluctuating numbers in the past....I still recall a path in the snow 3' wide from bobwhites in Athens county in the early 60s.
Beyond that...I wish PF the best of luck as they may well be the best of them.

I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post, you nailed it! A lot of "feel good" words are generated from these non-profit wildlife organizations. I am 72 years young and use to be a avid upland hunter. Even the certain species of migratory birds are on a sharp decline. Growing up in my earlier years wild upland birds were plentiful. Today, if you want to hunt pheasants, I would suggest a shooting preserve. Don't kid yourself and waste your money on these organization unless you enjoy the auctions/banquet life style. I've followed a few of these "not for profit" organizations that have been around for years, they mean well but will never achieve their mission "catch all" statements. They will never change the modern farming practices, federal regulations and loss of habitat to subdivisions, concrete and blacktop. All of the wide fence rows (habitat) are gone, crops are cut at ground level, nothing is left behind for wildlife. Lets not forget the chemicals used to enhance growth and to kill bugs, fieldmice and insects, all needed to feed our exploding population.