[coonskinner]

SCLEESHER IS BACK IN THE NEWS...:nono:

 

[Deehntr56]

Sal Anzalone(His father) got upset that alex was in a picture with a reported sex offender from Kentucky when he was in cbus for his visit. Bosa and Heuerman were also in the picture.

Hats off to compliance. When the photo started to circualte, they investigated and found out that Waugh was from Kentucky and had the charges on file. They contacted and circulated emails to everyone with the information. Waugh(the offender) also contacted the recruits thru twitter as well. Some of these "people" just give you the creaps.

Decommits happen. I remember one year, a good prospect committed to our team and two days later his dad called and said he found somebody better. I said good luck and hope it works out for you. The kid was 11 years old, so dad made all of his decisions. We won the state Championship that year(and the year after), and that dad called after the season that summer and said, he made a mistake. I said that's ok, it happens.

I didn't tell him a week later one of my sons friends at the time came on board and ended up being one of our top 3 pitchers. It worked out in the end many times with that being one example.

So the bucks move on and so they did with their pursuit of potential national talent out of the state of Ohio once again-

New offers the last few days:

LB-4* Yannick Ngakoue 6'3" 240 lbs. Washington (DC) Friendship Collegiate Academy Verbal (05/04/2012)
DB- Maurice Smith 5'11" 179 lbs. Sugar Land (TX) Dulles Verbal (05/04/2012)
DL- 4* Jonathan Allen 6'3" 225 lbs. Ashburn (VA) Stone Bridge Verbal (05/03/2012)
ATH- Ali Groves 5'10" 172 lbs. Stone Mountain (GA) Stephenson Verbal (05/04/2012)

Beautiful weekend coming- I think I know where I'll be spending my time.....:coolgleamA:

 

[Redhunter1012]

Sad thing is this canand probably does happen everywhere. Spring games attract tens of thousands. Cant screen everyone thathangs around

 

[Fish-n-Fool]

I don't think this guy is the real issue for the change for Anzalone. I do believe Anzalone won't be a part of this class now....but nothing to do with this incident getting the press. He's a great athlete and will do fine wherever he ends up.

Red - I was asking about Morris; saw he was over at Ohio Domincan and he threw it realy, really well. The guy I know that was in attendance said he was impressive with his throws and 2 minute drive.

 

[Hawgleg]

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:yikes:

Team Recruiting Rankings

Shane Morris
By Scott Kennedy
Director of Scouting
Posted May 7, 2012

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Recruiting gets started earlier every year, and for the first time in recent memory a team other than the Texas Longhorns, who have mastered early recruiting, open the Scout Team Recruiting Rankings at No. 1.

Few teams get an early jump on recruiting like the Texas Longhorns, who usually have their class virtually completed by St. Patrick's Day, but the trend of early commitments has gone nationwide, and for the first time, a team other than Texas sits atop Scout's Team Recruiting Rankings upon its first release.​

Michigan has built off the momentum of a Top 5 class in 2012, and the Wolverines have their sights set on an even better finish in 2013. While there is still a long, long way to go until National Signing Day next February, its Michigan and Head Coach Brady Hoke who sit in the pole position at No. 1.

Rank​

Ranking

1)

Michigan

2)

Texas

3)

Texas A&M

4)

Ohio State

5)

Notre Dame

6)

Georgia

7)

Florida

8)

Alabama

9)

Florida State

10)

USC

11)

Auburn

12)

Penn State

13)

Oklahoma

14)

Missouri

15)

LSU

16)

UCLA

17)

Nebraska

18)

Clemson

19)

Miami

20)

Michigan State​

Headlining Michigan's class is quarterback Shane Morris (6-foot-3/195 pounds) of Warren, Mich. who has been committed to the Wolverines for nearly a year. Morris is a big lefty who had a good showing at the Elite 11 Tryout in Columbus, Ohio recently and earned an invite to the finals held in July.​

Morris is bringing some friends with him including the nation's top offensive guard prospect Patrick Kugler (6-4/270) of Wexford, Pa. Kugler is a lean but powerful interior line prospect who will only get bigger and stronger as he gets older.​

Like last year, the Wolverines are doing a good job in the state Ohio. Of Michigan's 17 total commitments, eight of them come from the Buckeye state, including five-star safety prospect Dymonte Thomas (6-1/180) of Alliance, Ohio.​

While Texas isn't currently holding the No. 1 spot, it doesn't take long to find the Longhorns while scrolling down the list of top teams. Texas has 14 total commitments, a number that's significant because the Longhorns had 15 commitments at this time last year en route to the No. 1 class for 2012.​

It should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with recruting that all of Texas' commitments come from within its own state borders including five-star prospects in quarterback Tyrone Swoopes (6-5/220) of Whitewright and receiver Ricky Seals-Jones (6-5/215) of Sealy.​

Swoopes and Seals-Jones look like carbon copies of one another, like a pair of NBA shooting guards. The will look to form a Jordan/Pippen tandem the next several years as teammates playing pitch and catch for Texas.​

Seals-Jones will have some help at the receiver position as he is just one of three highly ranked Longhorn receiver prospects. Texas also has verbals from Jake Oliver (6-3/185) of Dallas and Jacorey Warrick (5-9/161) of Houston, giving Texas three of the nation's top 15 ranked receivers.​

Big, tall Texans seem to be a theme this year as Texas A&M checks in at No. 3, led by 6-6, 215-pound Derrick Griffiin of Rosenberg. Griffin is Scout's fourth ranked receiver in the nation, and he's a walking mismatch with his size.​

The Aggies are doing their part to prepare to air it out in the SEC with commitments from a pair of four-star quarterbacks in Kenny Hill (6-0/205) of Southlake and Kohl Stewart (6-2/190) of Houston.

Whoever wins the job for the Aggies will have ample weapons at his disposal. In addition to the gigantic Griffin, Texas A&M has verbals from four-star receivers Jamar Gibson (6-2/190) of Baytown and Laquivionte Gonzalez of Cedar Hill as well as top 50 WR Quincy Adeboyejo.​

Speaking to both the in state dominance of the two biggest programs and the sheer amount of talent in the country's top talent producing state, Texas and Texas A&M are sitting pretty without a single commitment from outside the state lines.​

Urban Meyer and Ohio State barnstormed the Big Ten in December and January propelling the Buckeyes to the No. 3 class in the nation for 2012 after flirting with being outside the Top 25. Meyer and the Buckeyes have picked up where they left off in February and are already in the Top 5, led by in-state product Jalin Marshall (6-1/190) of Middletown.​

Marshall is a quarterback for his squad who projects at several positions well on the next level but is likely best at running back. Recruited for the Percy Harvin role that Meyer implemented at Florida, Marshall is a terrific fit. While Harvin was known as a receiver, he did the bulk of his damage at Florida running the ball.​

While the state of Ohio is fifth in the nation in producing Division I signees, Meyer has taken Ohio State national, including a commitment from five-star defensive end Joey Bosa (6-5/262) of Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., quarterback J.T. Barrett (6-2/205) of Wichita Falls, Texas and tight end Marcus Baugh (6-4/235) of Riverside, Calif.​

Notre Dame rounds out the early Top 5, and it looks like the Irish are making a concerted effort to bolster the line of scrimmage. Of Notre Dame's 12 commitments, five of them are on the offensive line, including two tackles in the Top 10 in Colin McGovern (6-6/292) of New Lenox, Ill. and Steven Elmer (6-6/297) and the nation's No. 2 guard John Montelus (6-5/295).​

Conspicuously absent from the Top 5 is a traditional team from the SEC, but as usual, there are several teams lurking who will make a charge at the No. 1 overall spot before all is said and done, including No. 6 Georgia, No. 7 Florida and No. 8 Alabama.​

Florida State has recruited extremely well under coach Jimbo Fisher and the Seminoles check in at No. 9 with the ACC's top position.​

Rounding out the Top 10 is USC despite only having five commitments at this time. The Trojans are hampered by scholarship limitations, but they've had little trouble convincing top players around the country to commit, including the nation's No. 1 quarterback Max Browne (6-5/215) of Sammamish, Wash.​

​

 

[Fish-n-Fool]

Morris sure is a "pretty boy"

Looks like OSU has some of the top talent in the nation coming in for visits......3 top 30 overall players (including an O lineman) will be on campus in the next 4 weeks.

I wouldn't expect commits this early from guys like this, but you never know.

OSU will end up top 5 even with the small class; likely #1 defensive haul for OSU this year.

 

[Deehntr56]

"Pretty Boy"...lol.

Top 20 Spring rankings...looks like the Bucks at #11:thumbs_up:

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...oto-title=Post-spring+rankings&photo=30965127

and some new offers once again all out of Ohio-

WR- 4* Demorea Stringfellow 6'2" 185 lbs. Moreno Valley (CA) Rancho Verde Verbal (05/08/2012)
DL- 4* Deadrin Senat 6'1" 311 lbs. Immokalee (FL) HS Verbal (05/08/2012)
DB- Jordan Smith 5'11" 180 lbs. Washington (DC) H.D. Woodson Verbal (05/08/2012)

2014 Recruits-

WR-Shaquille Davidson 6'0" 170 lbs. Gaffney (SC) HS Verbal (05/08/2012)
OL-Orlando Brown Jr. 6'9" 376 lbs. Duluth (GA) Peachtree Ridge Verbal (05/03/2012) (Ex Browns player son-Big!!)
Braden Smith 6'6" 282 lbs. Olathe (KS) Olathe South Sr Verbal (05/08/2012)
DB- 5* Jabrill Peppers 6'0" 190 lbs. Paramus (NJ) Paramus Catholic
TE- Jeb Blazevich 6'5" 240 lbs. Charlotte (NC) Christian

 

[Deehntr56]

New 2014 Offers- Still no Ohio players..


WR- Artavis Scott 5'11" 160 lbs. Tarpon Springs (FL) East Lake
OL- Mason Cole 6'5" 267 lbs. Tarpon Springs (FL) East Lake
LB- Vincent Jackson 6'2" 230 lbs. Tampa (FL) Jesuit Verbal
ATH-Todd Kelly Jr 6'0" 185 lbs. Knoxville (TN) Webb School Of Knoxville
ATH-Jalen Hurd 6'2" 190 lbs. Hendersonville (TN) Beech Senior

 

[Redhunter1012]

New 2014 Offers- Still no Ohio players..

WR- Artavis Scott 5'11" 160 lbs. Tarpon Springs (FL) East Lake
OL- Mason Cole 6'5" 267 lbs. Tarpon Springs (FL) East Lake
LB- Vincent Jackson 6'2" 230 lbs. Tampa (FL) Jesuit Verbal
ATH-Todd Kelly Jr 6'0" 185 lbs. Knoxville (TN) Webb School Of Knoxville
ATH-Jalen Hurd 6'2" 190 lbs. Hendersonville (TN) Beech Senior

Yea, keep winking John. I thought you had the pulse of Ohio coaches? Just courious cause WOTS is Meyer is starting to ruffle a few feathers the same way RichRod did to Michigan HS coaches

 

[Deehntr56]

Good news and he'll ruffle some more before it's all said and done up north, see below.

I guess the "street" on where the WOTS info is coming from that your hearing is not too well informed. Of the 88 or so players for 2014 - so far- having an interest level in TOSU or TOSU having an interest in them, around 34 of those are Ohioans, but only 2 have been offered by TOSU to date. Their listed above. It shows you the selectivity of what fits his program and what he is looking for.

Meyer knows the SEC and players in selected other parts of the country are in high demand currently due to the success in those areas recently. He also knows the certain types of players he's looking for- what fits and what works in his system.

RR and Meyer are not even comparable based on Meyer's track record vs RR's limited success. They are miles apart on achievements in their career. RR also didn't fit well into the UM environment and was never really comfortable there, which contributed to his lack of success. Michigan State and TOSU and other Big's dominated him in recruiting, due to that- and was out-gunned, so to speak.

Here's the difference- Meyer hasn't played a Game at TOSU and has landed almost two dozen sought after recruits since November 22 of last year. That's only 5 months of recruits so far. Many new coaches at a school would need to have a good season or two before they could be as effective that quickly. Wait until he gets a season or two under his belt and see what he does, especially if they do well. What you are seeing today is only the tip of the iceberg, especially if the success of his past follows him to TOSU.

And this "tweet" today on WOTS up North from Coach Coombs-

Kerry Coombs‏@OsuCoachCoombs
Making a recruiting swing in the state up north! Buckeyes being incredibly well received by HS coaches in Gr Rapids E Lansing and Detroit!

Now that's some real recent WOTS-today in fact.

Now back on topic-which is Buckeye Recruiting-

New 2013 Offers-

OL- J.P. Vonashek 6'6" 255 lbs. Kingsland (GA) Camden County

New 2014 Offers-

WR- Trevion Thompson 6'2" 170 lbs. Durham (NC) Hillside
RB - Derrell Scott 5'10" 173 lbs. Havelock (NC) HS

Meyer's love for Defensive lineman continues….
DL- Garrett Dickerson 6'3" 225 lbs. Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic

And…
DB- 5* Edward Paris 6'2" 188 lbs. Mansfield (TX) Timberview - Paris has about 20 offers now, and is solid at the DB slot.

 

[lacure]

You always make good points, Dee (though it pains me to admit that).

One thing to keep in mind about your point in your last point is this: while Meyer is showing his recruiting prowess, don't the same numbers you quoted below state something about ohio???

"Meyer hasn’t played a Game at TOSU and has landed almost two dozen sought after recruits since November 22 of last year. That's only 5 months of recruits so far." ...and after a pretty high-publicity "scandal."

...to me that reads these kids are coming to play for Meyer and they do not think too much about ohio...they are not coming to play for ohio. :tsk: That may not matter to the ohio faithful, but maybe it should. Just my opinion.

 

[Fish-n-Fool]

Lacure - I disagree. The coach always is factored into the decision, but IMO the kids committ to the school/community moreso than anything else.

To support my argument I would look at Jim Tressel. Tressel hired as a "no name" coach with zero "big league" CFB experience. Very few folks around the state had even heard of him, let alone national recruits. Buckeyes are still caught up in the man-love Meyer fest to stop and rationalize that Urban isn't recruiting ANY better than the old coach at OSU. Tressel landed several hearalded recruiting classes and signed some extremely ELITE players. JT had a couple classes outside the top 15, but that was due to numbers...not the talent of the kids he signed. There is a reason JT owned this league and our rival....he recruited better than them. When LLLLLLLLLoyd was still up there and recruiting well it was close, but overall during his tenure JT signed the best classes. That "no name" coach suddenly signed top 10 calsses.....the kids sign with OSU.

Reviewing statistics (so far it is early under Meyer) the only thing significantly different is the # of offers in-state versus out-of-state. The ratio of kids that ink with OSU is actually almost a mirror of JT's recruiting classes. There was just a detailed breakdown of this on the Buckeye Scout premium board. The jist is: Offers to OOS kids are way up under Meyer/new staff, but the ratio/mix of kids being signed remains about the same.

Other Differences observed (some very obvious):

Currently recruiting more speed/ differences in personel
Current staff has a slightly wider base; good solid connections in every region of the country
Urban seems (very early) to have the ability to sign more ELITE OOS players whereas the old staff did best on home grown ELITE players (this is very debatable at this point, but it is clear this staff can get more visits with national ELITE).

Overall from where I sit little has changed. OSU will continue to get the bulk of whom they consider Ohio's very best and will lose a few to Hoke - same as it ever was. This year the Ohio guy you have we really want is Thomas; Gideon would be in the mix too...seems you always get 1-2 OH guys we want so that really won't change. I think you'll see a few more players from California, TX, FL and the east coast, but nothing significant. The old staff did pretty good in TX, FL and the east as well.

I think both fan bases are excited:

UM - finally got RR out of town and have bought in to Hoke; recruiting has picked back up with much better players coming in....put an end to that bad taste in all the fans/alums mouth with good season and BCS win.

OSU - just went through the ringer with losing season instead of pre-season #1 or #2 & another BCS apperance, lost the most dominant league coach in modern history...turned around & hired one of the top 3-5 coaches in the country that is a perfect fit. Saved a top recruiting class and have every reason to be optimistic about heading right back to the top of the league.

As an aside - the city of Columbus is quite an asset to OSU and recruiting....15th largest city in the country with every imaginable opportunity. Easy to negotiate, and obviously Buckeye nation in town. Many of our recruits say the city itself makes them consider OSU....between academics, program, facilities, and the city itself, OSU is one of the most attractive destinations in the midwest and the kids see that.

Try recruiting at Indiana or Minn....LOL Or whooing the nations #1 RB when USC and Kiffin have shown him the beaches in LA..LOL Sorry...had to throw that one in there!

 

[Deehntr56]

You always make good points, Dee (though it pains me to admit that).

One thing to keep in mind about your point in your last point is this: while Meyer is showing his recruiting prowess, don't the same numbers you quoted below state something about ohio???

"Meyer hasn't played a Game at TOSU and has landed almost two dozen sought after recruits since November 22 of last year. That's only 5 months of recruits so far." ...and after a pretty high-publicity "scandal."

...to me that reads these kids are coming to play for Meyer and they do not think too much about ohio...they are not coming to play for ohio. :tsk: That may not matter to the ohio faithful, but maybe it should. Just my opinion.

We both have our days Lacure

With the reasoning you state, when UM couldn't recruit for the last several years, the recruits were not looking at UM as a "school to attend" and based on the lack of recruits that they were able to land they weren't coming to play for UM or your coach at that time.:tsk::biggrin:

That puts UM in a worse light then TOSU based on your example?:biggrin:

Meyer doesn't have on his agenda "getting every Ohio recruit that he can". His agenda is no different then what has made him successful-getting the best recruit possible. Some years Ohio has some great recruits, and some years PA,Fla, NC or some other state does. The Carolinas right now is a hot bed for talent and there is a "real focus" there from this coaching staff. Great example- RB - Derrell Scott from NC. Highly regarded 2014 recruit many are looking at and TOSU has a high interest in. Fits Meyer's offense very well.

Personally UM struggled much more in their "quest" to become competitive again-The difference is that TOSU rebounded much quicker, attracted a qualified coach who was #1 on their list and were able to get back into the "game". (Keep in mind TOSU recruited real well before Meyer). UM took many years to re-group, and couldn't attract their #1 coaching target the last two attempts, so I guess TOSU has been able to attract coaches and qualified recruits at a much better pace-maybe the school is attracting better prospects at both levels for other reasons other then athletics, as well as athletics?.:coolgleamA:

By The way FNF- nice post. Ty Issac went where?:biggrin:

 

[Redhunter1012]

We both have our days Lacure

With the reasoning you state, when UM couldn't recruit for the last several years, the recruits were not looking at UM as a "school to attend" and based on the lack of recruits that they were able to land they weren't coming to play for UM or your coach at that time.:tsk::biggrin:

That puts UM in a worse light then TOSU based on your example?:biggrin:

Meyer doesn't have on his agenda "getting every Ohio recruit that he can". His agenda is no different then what has made him successful-getting the best recruit possible. Some years Ohio has some great recruits, and some years PA,Fla, NC or some other state does. The Carolinas right now is a hot bed for talent and there is a "real focus" there from this coaching staff. Great example- RB - Derrell Scott from NC. Highly regarded 2014 recruit many are looking at and TOSU has a high interest in. Fits Meyer's offense very well.

Personally UM struggled much more in their "quest" to become competitive again-The difference is that TOSU rebounded much quicker, attracted a qualified coach who was #1 on their list and were able to get back into the "game". (Keep in mind TOSU recruited real well before Meyer). UM took many years to re-group, and couldn't attract their #1 coaching target the last two attempts, so I guess TOSU has been able to attract coaches and qualified recruits at a much better pace-maybe the school is attracting better prospects at both levels for other reasons other then athletics, as well as athletics?.:coolgleamA:

By The way FNF- nice post. Ty Issac went where?:biggrin:

Win some, lose some. Kid wanted to get away. Pretty smart kid. USC has a great depth chart for him and it's USC, aka RB university. We'll see how Derrick Green comes around or Jordan Wilkins. Not set in stone if we take another RB.

One thing to remember about OOS recruiting: it's alot more common for those kids to leave the program when stuff doesn't go right. You get fewer of those diehard, 5th year Sr's who are the backbone of a team. BTW, how many freaking DE's can play at once on defense?

 

[Deehntr56]

BTW, how many freaking DE's can play at once on defense?

BTW-How many "Offensive linemen" can play at once on offense?:yikes::biggrin:

New 2014 Offer-They just keep coming....

OL-4* Kc McDermott 6'6" 285 lbs. Wellington (FL) Palm Beach Central

 

[Fish-n-Fool]

Vrabel and Fickell have been to my home town lately keeping tabs on Devonte James at Springfield High. No offer yet just strong interest.
James will play LB in college and is a 2014 kid.
He's an early top 250 national kid and he will start racking up offers from all over his Jr. year. He plays QB and LB for Spfld High; OSU is recruiting him as a LB and all his "big time" offers will come as LB.

Definately one to keep an eye on.

 

[Redhunter1012]

BTW-How many "Offensive linemen" can play at once on offense?:yikes::biggrin:

New 2014 Offer-They just keep coming....

OL-4* Kc McDermott 6'6" 285 lbs. Wellington (FL) Palm Beach Central

Last I counted was 5 OL and only 2 de. Haha. I know some will be stand up OLB's. Not sure what OSU's depth was at DE/OLB, but Michigans depth at OL was horrible and is still a bit shaky until next year

 

[Deehntr56]

2013 Updates/offers-

DL- Tyquan Lewis 6'3" 223 lbs. Tarboro (NC) HS

2014-Updates-

WR-NR Moral Stephens 6'3" 205 lbs. Perry (FL) Taylor County
WR-NR Johnnie Dixon 6'0" 175 lbs. West Palm Beach (FL) Dwyer
WR-4* Mark Andrews 6'6" 225 lbs. Scottsdale (AZ) Desert Mountain
TE 4* Tyler Luatua 6'4" 230 lbs. La Mirada (CA) HS
OL- 4* Donell Stanley 6'3" 311 lbs. Latta (SC) HS
LB- 4* Michael Ferns 6'3" 235 lbs. Saint Clairsville (OH) HS
DB-4* Nick Watkins 6'1" 180 lbs. Dallas (TX) Bishop Dunne

 

[Redhunter1012]

Pocic to LSU. Glad he's out of the Big 10

 

[Deehntr56]

New 2014 0ffer-

DL- Denzel Ware 6'2" 215 lbs. Crestview (FL) HS Verbal (06/05/2012)


Summer Visitors on tap

Today's schedule and 6/21-6/23 attendees is very large as well.

6/10
QB Michael Julian
QB DeShone Kizer (2014)
OL Kyle Meadows
OL Sean Welsh
OL Sam Coverdale
OL Lovell Peterson
OL Mac Bosel
OL Tate Leavitt
OL Matt Miller
OL Christian Morris
OL Nick Richardson (2014)
OL Jamarco Jones (2014)
OL Jared McCray (2014)
WR Zach Yousey
ATH Darron Lee
ATH Matt Petrella
ATH Aregeros Turner
ATH Delando Johnson
DE Andre Turner
DE/LB Tyquan Lewis
DL Tracy Sprinkle (Commit)
LB Jerome Lane
DB Vonn Bell
DB D’Andre Payne (2014)
DB Troy Vincent Jr. (2014)
DB Marcus Allen (2014)
DB Caleb Day