no spots MrFish
As far as I know, no spots up here, unfortunately.
Matzuo 2.5" crankbaits in bass- color have gotten hundreds of strikes.
I'm from the lower Hudson Valley near West Point, Newburgh etc.
Monster crappies are rare except in one or two ponds or upstate lakes.
BottomBouncer, I troll Swedish Pimple or Acme spoons when panfish won't take cast lures. I also troll split-shot rigs, except I use a 4" Fin S Fish, nose-hooked and troll very slowly, with slight rod-tip jerks.