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Archers Take Notice!

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Archers take notice of this Dispatch article in today's paper!

If we don't cull the deer heard as ODNR wants us to.....what do you think will happen???:confused:

Also note in this article farmers & orchardists can no longer use their crop damage permits during the deer hunting season! Now that's going to make for some happy people!!:yikes:

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/dis.../outdoors19.ART_ART_08-19-07_C11_F67L7NL.html
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Im sure you can't take bucks with a nuisance permit.
Im sure you can't take bucks with a nuisance permit.
That is what i thought but I wanted someone else to verify it. In my county soil and water hand out he kill permits, and they naturally have to come and to a survey of the land to see if and how many permits will be granted. I have never heard of allowing bucks to be taken.
People are going to shoot bucks no matter what. I would be more worried about poachers than people with nuisance permits. If they are going through the trouble of getting the permits chances are they are going to take does. JMO
Wiley

I know most farmers don't have as big a mouth as I do.
CHACHING!!! Maybe its because people like you why the rest of us decent folk dont get permission from these farmers? :coco:

That was a very intertaining post you made though. It gave me a chuckle so thanks!!!:p :mischeif:
You are allowed to take bucks, at least in our county, but the warden will remove the antlers and they get turned in. This is to keep people from abusing the systems(honest people anyways). Just Monday I watched a huge 8 point for about 40 minutes, but did not shoot it. Why shoot something like that if you cannot keep it?! After 40 minutes a doe popped out and I quickly dispatched her. She popped out at 30 yards, I felt like I was wasting a bullet, shooting a 300 WM. Like I said, culling, not hunting. I am gonna switch to a bow now that i have 3 in the freezer.

Another note, My friends farm backs up to a huge wildlife park and this is why deer are such an issue on his farm. It is not just a regular farm. Deer have access to thousands of acres of woods right up to his farm. "They are thick" as he would say.

Come bow season that buck is mine though:bouncy:
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i didnt think you could shoot bucks...doesnt make sense to shoot bucks anyway...taking does is what will make the biggest impact on reducing the herd...:mischeif:
Definatly. When ever a buck is shot on the farm and the warden comes out to cut the antlers off, you can tell he is not keen about it. We have a very good relationship with him so he is pretty open with us. Tells us to save the boys for the regular season, thinning the herd means shooting does, they taste better anyways:) I try to take only does, but that is just me.
I do some heard reduction on a friends farm i try to take at least 2 does every year. I did have my eye on a nice buck tho to bad his grand kids got dirt bikes
I'm not sure what the rules are today. However back in the '90s, a nearby farm took around 20 on kill permits each year. These guys were mostly taking bucks. I'm pretty sure they had alot to do with the rules being tightened up. (Fishing trip results Thunderstorms-2 Wiley1-0)[email protected]" quick released, Suageye-4<15" released pending trial during ice season, Channels-6 15-22" kept three for dinner.
Catfish dinner-$5
Spending two days dodging rain catching 2-3 year olds-$90
Having a wet a_s the entire time-Priceless!
It don't matter. I have seen and been told of farmers sitting on the back porch with the 300 win mag and a beer just shooting at deer all day, and just letting them lay. 365 days a year.

Do I agree with it no.. Will I turn them in no. I am from the belief that it's his land and his living. The farmer has been crapped on for years, so much you can barely make a decent living at it anymore. and if he wants to pop some deer so that he can serve a better dinner to his family, or buy his wife a nice ring for their anniversary, and have some money to maybe go on a little vacation. Than that’s his damn right. and if it takes a few dead deer to give him that, then so be it.

I just wish he would let some guys hunt the property and do it legally. But every farmer that says no usually has a darn good reason and, 99 times out of 100 it's a past hunters fault. I can't blame him for that either.

I think they shouldn't have permits at all. But do it like they do out west with the grassland recovery.. ODNR pay the farmer to open his land to public hunting. Have a special hunting license for it. and if a hunter disrespects the land, like rutting up roads or stomping down crop. The ban that hunter from buying that license. The only way fro the Hunter, ODNR, farmer relationship is ever going to work is to start culling the heard of crappy disrespectful hunters.
We have the same problem in Ashland County
Shooting the crap out of them and leaving them lay if their not in their way, but charging us top dollar for licenses and tags, I live in the Mohican area and constantly pole what hunters are here, this is what 95 percent of them tell me:
There are no deer left here to hunt
I ask them so what do you think the problem is
I know you folks are going to be mad, but I’m just the messenger of what they said
Public use of crossbows, there was a good balance of deer when it was handicap use, now deer are getting shot up especially the bucks, size is dropping dramatically and quantity of bucks dropping, too many are getting killed way before they mature, being an avid hunter for 50 years and my study afield I have to agree with them, the balance of season participation especially gun season has drastically been reduced because of public crossbow use, I see it getting worse every year, fix the crossbow and feeder abuse and the ohio deer hunting will rebound back to normal.
These are comments from 5 years of polling questions in the Mohican forest area.
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We have the same problem in Ashland County
Shooting the crap out of them and leaving them lay if their not in their way, but charging us top dollar for licenses and tags, I live in the Mohican area and constantly pole what hunters are here, this is what 95 percent of them tell me:
There are no deer left here to hunt
I ask them so what do you think the problem is
I know you folks are going to be mad, but I’m just the messenger of what they said
Public use of crossbows, there was a good balance of deer when it was handicap use, now deer are getting shot up especially the bucks, size is dropping dramatically and quantity of bucks dropping, too many are getting killed way before they mature, being an avid hunter for 50 years and my study afield I have to agree with them, the balance of season participation especially gun season has drastically been reduced because of public crossbow use, I see it getting worse every year, fix the crossbow and feeder abuse and the ohio deer hunting will rebound back to normal.
These are comments from 5 years of polling questions in the Mohican forest area.
WAIT.....I thought it was the amish? Now it's crossbows? Your such a clown, this thread is from 2007......this forum is garbage anymore....clowns like you spout nonsense that has no bearing on anything....im outta here.
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Crossbows have been legal for everyone since the late 70’s! When was it handicap use only?
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Welcome to my ignore list!! You are a disgrace to other hunters! Enjoy!
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WAIT.....I thought it was the amish? Now it's crossbows? Your such a clown, this thread is from 2007......this forum is garbage anymore....clowns like you spout nonsense that has no bearing on anything....im outta here.
Truth hurts sometimes
Mrex, Wiley, I thought for sure that Ohio tried the Antlerless permits in late 70's to early 80's. By the sounds of it I was wrong:tsk::bonk:, I will double check with him to make sure. I would still like to see something like that implimented now. Doesn't Soil and Water hand the kill permits out? Are you saying that bucks can be killed with the kill permits?
Ohio used to have antlerless permits that you had to draw for in the early 80's. I still have a few.
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