Spring Squirrels?

[CatDaddy]

I believe Kentucky has a spring squirrel season. Do yall think Ohio should?

[Buckmaster]

I don't think Baby Squirrel would like that too much when his mama wouldn't come home.

[Duffy]

Abso-squirrel-ly!

[Buckrun]

Only in town with an air rifle.

[CatDaddy]

Why is nobody putting down a reason they said No.

[Buckrun]

How would you feel if your mother was killed when you were a baby, an with out a father you just laid in your crib until you died? That is why I voted no.

Squirrel hunting is my favorite. I love sitting in the woods watching a squirrel run the tree tops until I can make the shot. But not when they are feeding young.

I feel the same way about coyote hunting and groundhogs for that matter.
Steve

[CatDaddy]

So you have never shot a nursing female? I know I have, Survival of the fitest is the name of the game. I dont think squirrels that are obviously pregnant should be shot. It wouldnt be that hard to tell if they were or not as long as you know what you are doing. I think the Spring season in Kentucky is only like 6 or 7 days long. I thought it was a good time to get youngsters out in the woods for a look at spring.

Reproduction:

Female gray squirrels usually produce two litters annually. They begin their mating activities about the time of the winter solstice and continue through January and February. Following a 40-day gestation period, young are born during February and March. Another lesser mating period occurs during June and July with resulting births occurring between late July and mid-September. Occasionally births occur at other times of the year. In the park, nursing females have been reported in March (Komarek and Komarek, 1938), in May (Stupka, 1937), in August, and in October (Stupka, 1944). Two males in breeding condition and two half-grown individuals were taken in October by the Komareks. Half-grown young have also been seen in mid-April ( Stupka, 1937). The mother-to-be selects a secure and dry tree den, which she lines with leaves and bark fibers. Here she gives birth to one to six blind and hairless young, usually two or three. She raises the young by herself and drives off all other squirrels that approach her nest. Within a few days hair begins to appear on the young and after five weeks their eyes open. At eight or nine weeks they are weaned and shortly thereafter are abandoned by their mother.

[CatDaddy]

Kentuckys season is JUNE 4 - 17, 2005.

[brian]

From what I understand squirrels, being rodents, pretty much reproduce year-round so the opportunity to harvest a nursing female is always available. One option is to get a GREAT pair of binocs and harvest only bucks. :p I don't think I would ever do it though just because I hate mosquitos.

[Buckrun]

Yes I have shot a nursing female. The doe I shot the first day of deer season had milk running down her belly when I hung her up. I am sure that the 2 other deer that were chasing her around the woods were her fawns. I imagin she was running from them trying to wean them. Actually it is the deer in my avatar that I am talking about.

I believe survival of the fittest is more about the hawk, owl and other wildlife predators that takes the mother squirrel. Not you or I sitting there with our rifle.

Take the youngsters out mushroom hunting for a look at spring. Wait a couple months and snipe a few groundhogs. Go fishing. Leave the squirrels alone.
Steve

[CatDaddy]

I would still like to hunt them in the spring. They say it is a whole different ball game in the spring than in the fall.

[Buckrun]

Originally posted by CatDaddy
I would still like to hunt them in the spring. They say it is a whole different ball game in the spring than in the fall.

I don't understand how it could be that much different.:confused: Squirrel in the tree, hunter on the ground. Turkey hunting spring / fall. Now that is different.

I may be wrong but squirrels are not raising (nursing) young in the fall. I believe the seasons affect wild anmals and their breeding seasons.
Steve

[CatDaddy]

I take it you are not big into hunting squirrels. Lets think about this....What do squirrels eat? Nuts. In the fall the nuts are where? In the trees. So that means the squirrels are in the trees too. In the Spring where are the nuts? There are very little on the ground and basically none in the trees. So you cant just sit down and watch the tree tops. Where is the Squirrels food source in the spring?

Yes you are wrong if you read the article I posted a little bit ago. Squirrels basically breed all year long. Which means in turn they will have babys most of the year. Which means they will be nursing most of the year.

[Buckrun]

Squirrel is my favorite game to hunt. I mentioned it earlier in a post. I have always been told and have always practiced, don't shoot at squirrels on the ground. The bullet could rickoshey (SP?) through the woods and hit someone else that is in the woods.

Now that I am getting older I also worry about where the bullet is going when I shoot one in the tree tops. I try to only shoot when there is a large limb or the tree trunk behind the squirrel.

I don't believe that squirrels breed all year around....

You asked why I voted no. I told you I'm against it and why. If you don't want to accept the reason I stated....
Steve

PS Another thing I always do. When I see more than 1 squirrel in a tree I will shoot the one with the largest bushey tail. It has always been a male, so far.

[CatDaddy]

That is fine. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. It does not bother me that you or anybody else is against it. I was just wondering about this since Kentucky has a spring season and Ohio doesnt.

[Spring fever]

I also like to hunt squirrels about as much as anything and have done it all my life. Something about being in the woods on an Oct. day that is hard to beat. But I'm with Buckrun on this one. Give them little critters a break in the spring.

:) --SF

[shotgun]

youre just as likely to kill a nursing squirrel in sept as you are in may. They breed more than once a year unlike deer and turkeys. It doesnt matter if you believe it or not thats the facts. I believe ohio should and someday will have a spring season. Its been proved that hunting has little impact on squirrel populations, a much bigger factor is food source. Unless you kill every squirrel in the woods (highly unlike) They will reach a maximun population for an area very quickly. They are rodents, they have numerous litters a year.

[CatDaddy]

Rodents taste good! :D How can you not believe squirrels breed all year? :confused: Look it up on the internet, its not something I made up. So Buckrun, You are saying that if there are three squirrels in a tree and you shoot the one with the longest tail that it will be a male. What about the other two? you dont shoot those? :rolleyes: Maybe they are males too, just young ones. I dont believe that squirrels need a "spring break". I dont think there is enough hunting pressure to really influence them. You guys are thinking too much along the lines of deer hunting.

[shotgun]

that they do,espicially fried and served with biscuits and gravy i have a few mt curs i need to get out and run sometime

[CatDaddy]

I would love to train my Jack Russell to hunt em.

[shotgun]

One of my dogs i think would turn out pretty good if i could just find some time between school deer hunting turkey hunting and catfishin to run him somemore. Its pretty neat when the do tree some though.

[CatDaddy]

I just dont know the best way to train em.

[CatDaddy]

Shotgun, Ever do any catfishing around central ohio?

[ohcurhunter]

Catdaddy,
Shoot me a pm and I'll give you some tips on training a squirrel dog.
Shotgun,
If you want to get together in the fall and run curs let me know.

[shotgun]

no im in the very southern tip of the state so i mostly fish the river. Id love to get together sometime curhunter if im not to busy this fall. I think my dogs could do some good espicially if they had some expirenced dogs to learn from.

Catdaddy check out www.sqdog.com

[CatDaddy]

ohcurhunter, I used to go to Mt. Gilead every other saturday night to ride bulls. Ever been to the rodeo at the fairgrounds.

[CatDaddy]

shotgun, Hey whats the chances of taking me and a buddy fishing on the river this summer? :D We have never fished the river but always talked about it. We just never knew anyone with a spot on the river.

[Buckrun]

I did a search like you recomended. This is the first one I found!

Reproduction:
Fox squirrels generally have two breeding seasons per year. Most breeding occurs in December through February and May through June of each year. Females can have two litters per year; one during each breeding season. Average litter sizes range from 2-4 individuals; the winter litter is generally smaller than the summer litter.

http://dept.ju.edu/biology/khoover/ShermansFoxSquirrel.htm


I have NEVER shot a female squirrel in the fall that looked like it was nursing. I have also never shot or seen a fox squirrel during season that looked like it was only weeks old or just out of the nest. I have seen these little ones during the summer.

I do believe that a woods can be hunted out! Now you have to remember that I live in north west Ohio where you would have to look a for a while to find a woods over 50 to 75 acres.

Most times when you can get permition to hunt a woods, the land owner will give permition to anybody that asks. So now you will have a small wood lot that gets a lot of hunting presure. Yes I have seen places hunted out of squirrel and rabbits.

I have only shot my limit a squirrels 3 or 4 times in my life! Not because I can't! It is because I don't like ot freeze excess small game. I usually kill just enough for a meal for my family. I will kill 2 or 3 and have them for a meal after they soak in salt water for a day.

I take the one with the largest bushey tail first. I may have only wanted 1 more so I took the male. It has always been a male. The others may have been younger males. But when I have waited them out and shot another it has been a female.

I have always hunted squirrel with a rifle. it has been a .22 rim fire until the last few years I started hunting them with a .17 HMR. I don't hunt them with a shotgun. Oh I have also hunted them with a .32 muzzle loader and I shot one with a .50 cal muzzle loader. ( head shot )

Steve

[shotgun]

Now you have to remember that I live in north west Ohio where you would have to look a for a while to find a woods over 50 to 75 acres. Thats a good point, our opinions will no doubt differ alot because of where we are. I live in lawrence county which is over 75 percent forested and wayne national owns about half the county, so squirrel hunting spots are not a problem for me. Small blocks of land like you mentioned may have the possiblity to be overhunted, but ive found hunting down here on these huge chunks of forest they seem to replenish themselves fine. The years they are down is when the mast crop is down or like this past few years from an icestorm that killed alot of trees.


Catdaddy- not sure how much fishing ill get done this year im in school til june then may be working in ky for the summer. You can fish the river in numerous spots and im not sure if one spot is much better than the other, we ususally fish the stretch between ironton ohio and huntington westvirginia but somewhere further north might be closer for you. Just grab some stout poles and some bluegill or gold fish hook them through the back and throw on a big sinker and cast it out and wait. Last year we caught two 40 plus lbs a 15 lber and an alligator gar, not to mention numerous lost deals on big fish since when we first went we werent prepared in the equptment department. I lost one monster because of a snapped line.

[shotgun]

Buckrun do you hunt much in december or january, i do occasionally and have seen some very young squirrels, from the breeding periods you mentioned it could be determined that you are just as likely to kill a pregnant female in the winter as you are in the spring. Not to mention these are just the major breeding periods. Occasional breedings still happen throught the year.Im sure the numerous states(which include ky, wv) have done the research needed to determine how detremintal it would be. I wouldnt mind the spring season and it would be nice to get out there some in the summer, but for me it still coulnt replace the fall season. Something about being out there on the frosty mornings listening for hickory cuttings that gets me excited.

[Thunderflight]

How do you tell a male from a female?

TF

[Buckrun]

Originally posted by Thunderflight
How do you tell a male from a female?

TF

It's all in where they carry their nuts!:rolleyes:
Steve

[shotgun]

hahaha

[Thunderflight]

So your saying your a peeping tom?;)

TF

[Buckrun]

Originally posted by Thunderflight
So your saying your a peeping tom?;)

TF

I may be some sort of ??? Since I field dress them then skin them.:eek:
Steve

[CatDaddy]

Originally posted by Buckrun
Yes I have shot a nursing female.

Im a little confused now. Multiple personalities?

[CatDaddy]

shotgun has a point there. even the places I hunt are very big woods. I can see where the difference of opinion would be. I dont understand what shooting them with a .22 has to do with anything. I use a .22 rifle and pistol with solid point bullets. I dont like the .17 it seems to do too much damage and can go too far. not to say a .22 wont go a long ways but the .17 will go further. I also dont take anything but a head shot since I use solid tips.

[Buckrun]

Originally posted by CatDaddy
Im a little confused now. Multiple personalities?

When I read this I thought I may have made a typo. So I went back and reread my posts.

No I didn't make any typos. Cat Daddy. You are just a punk kid trying to stur up trouble. You are wrong and to much of a coward to admit it!

That statment was about a doe deer shot in Noverber and has nothing to do with squirrel hunting in the spring! I made a mistake saying she was a nursing. I did not see any fawns nursing. She was lactating. When I skinned her she had milk in her.


As far as I am concered you can KISS MY BUTT!

STEVE

[CatDaddy]

Ouch that hurts. :rolleyes: I didnt mean anything by it, I guess I got confused at what you said. Im not sure how we went from squirrels to deer? As for the "punk kid crap" you dont even know me. Im probably more of a grown up than you are if you think that I am "wrong" for stating my opinion. As far as Im concerned your a liar. Why would you type something if it wasnt true and had nothing to do with "spring squirrel hunting"? Did you read the header? It says "spring squirrels", not "November deer" What happend to the two young deer you saw with her? Quit trying to compare squirrels to deer, they are a whole different ballgame.

Im not going to stoop to name calling (except the liar part) like a fifth grade child. We each have our own opinion and that is what is so great about America, we can do that. I already said that I can see how our opinions would be different from a "city slicker" to someone born and breed in the country. If I am wrong about something I have no problem admitting it like some. The only person around here trying to stir crap up is YOU. We were trying to have a civil conversation about a spring squirrel season. I think it will eventually happen and hope that it will. Im sure Kentucky wouldnt opened it if all the squirrels were being killed off.

Do me a favor and dont post in this thread anymore.

[Buckrun]

Well today is a first. This is the first time in all the years and all the different boards I visit that I have ever put thought about putting someone on my Ignore list!

When someone posts a pole, then asks why you voted in a way that is against what he wanted. I just told you why. Then you told lies and twists what I say around trying make me out to be wrong. You told me to look it up on the net. So I did and post my findings and a link to the place I found it. Then you insulted me and called me a liar. You ignored the post that backed up what I said.

I am 45 years old I figure by your posts and the way you is acting you are in your a teenager. A know it all young kid still wet behind the ears. It is funny that these young kids think they have experienced it ALL. “Im probably more of a grown up than you are if you think that I am "wrong" for stating my opinion.” It is funny to me that someone has to say something like this to prove I am a big grown up! When their actions sure don’t prove it.

You are not a grown up just because you can state an opinion! Some times you will find that your opinion may be wrong. A grown man will be able to admit that I may have been wrong and change your opinion.

As far as animals and their breeding seasons. It is a proven fact that God made them have their reproduction urges at certain times of the year. It is linked to the amount of light that they are exposed to. All animals are affected by this. Humans have learned to manipulate this by using artificial light. Rodents included, in the wild a mouse won’t have a litter of young in the middle of winter. Unless they are in a barn or your home where there are lights on to kick in the breeding instinks.

Think about it and try to open you mind to the fact that you DON’T know it all at yet. If you don’t open you mind to new ideas, when you get to be my age you won’t know anymore than you did in your teen years!

I am sorry for calling you a punk kid. I was one a long time ago. I know what it is like.

Steve

[geezer]

Well is there a different in taste between fall and spring harvested skewrls?

Maybe Ky has a spring season cuz there farther south than Oh and it makes a difference in the breeding times and conditions of the skewrls. Just a thot

stay safe

[CatDaddy]

Im not sure why they have a spring season. I always thought it was because it gave some of the less fortinate people in that part of the country a time to stock up on meat after the winter.

[CatDaddy]

Originally posted by CatDaddy
So you have never shot a nursing female? I know I have, Survival of the fitest is the name of the game. I dont think squirrels that are obviously pregnant should be shot. It wouldnt be that hard to tell if they were or not as long as you know what you are doing. I think the Spring season in Kentucky is only like 6 or 7 days long. I thought it was a good time to get youngsters out in the woods for a look at spring.

Reproduction:

Female gray squirrels usually produce two litters annually. They begin their mating activities about the time of the winter solstice and continue through January and February. Following a 40-day gestation period, young are born during February and March. Another lesser mating period occurs during June and July with resulting births occurring between late July and mid-September. Occasionally births occur at other times of the year. In the park, nursing females have been reported in March (Komarek and Komarek, 1938), in May (Stupka, 1937), in August, and in October (Stupka, 1944). Two males in breeding condition and two half-grown individuals were taken in October by the Komareks. Half-grown young have also been seen in mid-April ( Stupka, 1937). The mother-to-be selects a secure and dry tree den, which she lines with leaves and bark fibers. Here she gives birth to one to six blind and hairless young, usually two or three. She raises the young by herself and drives off all other squirrels that approach her nest. Within a few days hair begins to appear on the young and after five weeks their eyes open. At eight or nine weeks they are weaned and shortly thereafter are abandoned by their mother.

What about this post I made back on the first page of this thread? I did not make it up, I found it on the internet just like you found yours. Why did you write that you dont believe it? Maybe YOU need to open your mind a little. The only difference is the one I posted gives more detailed information on breeding times and when babies and nursing females have been seen. I know for a fact I have shot nursing females in October as well as very young fox squirrels that I mistook for a mountain jack. I may be young but believe me I have experienced a whole lot more than some people will ever experience. How many 21 year olds do you know that have had to pull dead people from wrecked cars and people screaming for their life from a burning house? Have you ever seen a 14 year old with his head crushed under a vehicle? What about a mother with her infant daughter that is near death. Or the look on someones face when they know they are going to die? Its not pleasant and its not fun. Im not trying to brag about this **** because its not fun. But when you do save someone, that is the best feeling in the world. DONT mistake me for some "punk kid" who thinks they know it all! I have seen my share of good and bad. What other 21yr old do you know that has a mortgage, truck payment, a beautiful little girl and two jobs? I have worked my ass off since I was 14. How dare you call me "some punk kid still wet behind the ears". I know that I dont know it all. I do listen to all sides of the story. Open your mind.

[Thunderflight]

http://www.japson.com/jpeg/jpeg/JAPSON/General%20science/Stop%20watch.JPG

[geezer]

Is there such a thing as MAD SQUIRRELS DISEASE?

[CatDaddy]

LOL...I was wondering the samething TF.

I hope it doesnt, Buckrun and I are just having a friendly conversation.

[Buckrun]

I was just trying to help expand you limited knowledge. I am sorry that you have been through so much death and destruction in your short life. Just so you remember that doesn’t make you an expert on everything. Keep your mind open to new thoughts.

I didn’t copy and paste the WHOLE web page so it wouldn’t waste so much space here on the board. I did post a link to the to the whole thing so you could check it out if you wanted to. In fact you still could if you had a mind to. I noticed that your information was from the 1940’s and earlier.

Also when you ask a question here you usually get an answer.

Originally posted by CatDaddy
Why is nobody putting down a reason they said No.

Originally posted by CatDaddy
So you have never shot a nursing female? I know I have, Survival of the fitest is the name of the game.

That question is why I brought up the deer. Then you cut my answer up to try to make me look like a liar. Kind of like the Liberal news media!
Plus I don’t think shooting the mother of a litter of baby squirrels has anything to do with “survival of the fitest”

Originally posted by CatDaddy
Rodents taste good! :D How can you not believe squirrels breed all year? :confused: Look it up on the internet, its not something I made up. So Buckrun, You are saying that if there are three squirrels in a tree and you shoot the one with the longest tail that it will be a male. What about the other two? you dont shoot those? :rolleyes: Maybe they are males too, just young ones. I dont believe that squirrels need a "spring break". I dont think there is enough hunting pressure to really influence them. You guys are thinking too much along the lines of deer hunting.

Squirrels do taste good.
I did look it up and you can too.
I answered the rest of the questions in other posts.

Originally posted by Buckrun
Yes I have shot a nursing female.


Originally posted by CatDaddy
Im a little confused now. Multiple personalities?

This is where you pissed me off. Taking my posts out of context. This is where you proved to me you are not a reliable source of information.

Steve

[Thunderflight]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/audition.st-etienne/images/couple%20pop%20corn.JPG

[noboatdave]

Let's take a break and see what Kentucky says about spring squirrel hunting...

From here (http://www.kentuckyhunting.com/)
The squirrel population peaks with new litters of bushytails emerging into the woodlands twice a year -- around the first of June and in September.


Here (http://fw.ky.gov/060503.asp)
The June squirrel season, implemented in 1994 to take advantage of squirrel breeding chronology, provides Kentucky outdoors enthusiasts a chance to hunt in a time of year when their hunting gear is usually in storage.

[CatDaddy]

Buckrun, "you were trying to expand my limited knowledge"? Give me a break. :rolleyes: Dont think you know everything just because you're 45. I work with some extremely stupid people that are your age and older. I dont remember you being one of my college professors so Im sure you dont know everything. Why do you think you know everything? Especially about squirrels. unless your a nut? Are you a nut?

So the information I posted was from the 1940's. Does that mean that squirrels have evolved since then? I could care less if Lewis and Clark wrote the darn thing. It is a proven fact which you chose to ignore. Dont forget to keep YOUR mind open.

I too was trying to save space by cutting your post, I guess your superior knowledge confused me when you started talking about the deer.

Have you EVER squirrel hunted? Its hard to believe that someone who acts like they know so much about squirrels has never killed one that was nursing?

[geezer]

Do not sidestep an argument by trying to discredit the man who proposed it. This is known as ARGUMENT TO THE MAN (argumentum an homineum). It fails to take into account that even though discredited for on thing, the man might be right about others.

[Buckrun]

You know I was hunting and killing squirrels when you were still craping in your diapers. In fact before you were born! Now you have probably killed more squirrels than me but then I am not a game hog. I kill enough for a meal then go home. That is when I have time to hunt. I didn’t even have time to go out this year. You see I work two jobs and have a family to take care of.

The information you posted said this. Of course you didn’t post a link to where ever you found this.
“Another lesser mating period occurs during June and July with resulting births occurring between late July and mid-September. Occasionally births occur at other times of the year.” Evidently I have never stumbled into one of these females.

I am through with this thread. I don’t have time to but heads with a know it all, hot headed kid. May be when you get older you will under stand how much there is to learn in this world. You know even those dumb old guys you work with could teach you something if you are not to close minded. You can learn things from people even if they are not a college professor and don’t have a college degree.

Here is something you posted.
Originally posted by CatDaddy
What other 21yr old do you know that has a mortgage, truck payment, a beautiful little girl and two jobs? I have worked my ass off since I was 14. How dare you call me "some punk kid still wet behind the ears". I know that I dont know it all. I do listen to all sides of the story. Open your mind.

So you are a 21 year old kid that reproduced and then proceaded to get your self into debt. That doesn’t take a lot of brain power!

How’s this I started working full time the Monday after I graduated from high school. I was a carpenter. I got MARRIED when I was 20. We saved our money while living in a mobile home until we could pay CASH for a new truck. We had our first son when I was 23. By the time I was 25 we had bought 5 acres of land and built our own house. The only thing we hired done was the brick and plumbing. I did all the framing, roofing, electrical, drywall and trimmed it out. I even made my own trim. It took us almost 2 years to complete it but when it was done it was ours free and clear. NO MORTGAGE! And it was no dump! We just moved 3 years ago and it sold for $170,000 three days after we put it up for sale.

I use to set on my grandfathers lap when I was little. We use to talk a lot. He would tell me when I became a teen ager I would think I knew it all. He would tell me to make sure I always listen to my elders because I could learn from them. My grandpa was the greatest man I knew so I took what he said to heart. I have always tried to learn from others, or by reading. I also have quite a collection of books on a lot of different subjects.

But I don’t have a college degree so I guess I am just another dumb old guy that is in your way.

Steve

[CatDaddy]

See there you go again Buckrun. You think because you have been around for 45 years that you know more than the younger generations. You tell me to grow up and listen to other ideas but you are not listening to my ideas. I will find the web site and post it on here for you. I think you need to step back and take a look at yourself.

[CatDaddy]

There ya go buddy.

http://www.discoverlife.org/nh/tx/Vertebrata/Mammalia/Sciuridae/Sciurus/carolinensis/

[Thunderflight]

Oh yeah!!! Well I started working when I was 13 cutting grass and weeds!!! At $1.00 an hour I was kicking butt!!!!!

;)

[CatDaddy]

Geezer,
who was that directed towards?

TF,
I knew I didnt like you for some reason! You got me beat by a whole year! LOL :D

[Buckrun]

I clicked the links that were on your web sight and read some more.

University of Michigan, Museum of Zoology
“Males start follwing females 5 days before estrus and may come from as far away as 500 meters. Estrus in the female is indicated by an enlarged pink vulva, a condition which usually lasts less than 8 hours. The vagina is closed in prepubescent and anestrous females. Copulation lasts less than thirty seconds. After ejaculation, a gelatinous white vaginal plug forms, preventing further sperm entry. Breeding occurs in December-February and May-June and is slightly delayed in more northern latitudes. Gestation lasts 44 days. Most females begin their reproductive life at 1.25 years but can bear young as early as 5.5 months. Females may bear young twice a year for more than 8 years. Males usually are sexually mature by 11 months but maturity can be delayed by as much as two years if the young males are housed with a dominant adult male. Inactive testes weigh 1g, whereas active testes weight 6-7g. This cycle of testicular recrudescence and regression occurs twice a year. Newborns are naked with the exception of their vibrissae and they weigh from 13-18g. Young are altricial. Weaning begins in the seventh week and is completed by the tenth. At this point, the juvenile pelage is lost. Adult size and mass are reached at 9 months. Two litters are born each year in late winter and midsummer with generally 2-4 young per litter(up to 8 young are possible).”


eNature
“Breeding 1 litter of 2 or 3 young born in spring; second litter born in late summer. Gestation about 44 days.”

So I guess your guess is as good as mine. Although we don’t have many gray squirrels, where I hunt they are mostly fox squirrels. Sorry I have never shot a squirrel that looked like it has a litter of young that were still nursing.
Steve

[Buckrun]

Did you even read any of my posts? I am not a know it all. But I have had over twice as many years on this planet than you and have had that much more time to experience and learn. I also am still learning from my elders. I also work in a place where I am around a lot of young people that run in age from 16 - 25. I am learning a lot from them. We discuss the newer tech. stuff. Several are in college or have graduated. I am really impressed with some of the younger generation. They also know they can learn from me. We are always asking each other questions.

Right now I am trying to learn about DVD cameras and recorders for the PC. One of the young men I have been talking to is taking some classes in digital movie making. He is the one that gave me the nick-name Al Borlin because I know all about the tools in our hardware department. He is also into fishing so I loaned him a box full of the items that you can make spinners with. I use to make my own spinners like the rooster tail and mepps. He is going to try to make some for his own use. A couple others come to me and we talk guns, hunting and shooting.

You say I need to look at myself. HA Here are some more of my accomplishments!

I started hunting and shooting when I was 15. I had to learn in on my own because my dad didn’t hunt. So I read and started hanging around with my friend and his father. 30 years later I now have over 70 rifles handguns and shotguns. All the center fires I reload my own ammo for. I cast a lot of my own bullets.

I got into archery when I was 17. I started out with a compound and have had two different ones. The last one I bought in 1981. I gave it away when I went traditional. I have always fletched my own arrows and even made a machine to make my own wood arrow shafts. Some of the people here have seen pictures of the arrows I have made. I have also taken quit a few squirrels with archery equipment. I have also made some bows. Laminated long bows and self bows from hickory trees I cut and seasoned.

I use to shoot competition combat matches with a government 1911 45 auto. The second year I shot this I won the match every month. I still have match results to prove this. I was very proud of the accomplishment since I built the gun from a bunch of parts!

I have also shot trap, skeet and sporting clays quite a bit.


I got into coon hunting and hounds for a few years. I also raised Jack Russell Terriers. I still have 3 of my old hunting buddies left. They are getting to old to hunt any more. I was a member of the Jack Russell Club and had my kennel registered with them. Buck Run Kennel. I didn’t raise and sell a lot of pups may be 20 or 25 are out there. They would be getting up in years.

I have an extensive library on hunting, shooting, guns, archery, animals, farming, gardening and western fiction. I’ve had subscriptions to god knows how many different magazines. I use to read a lot more than I do now. I just can’t find the time to sit and read.

I had raising pigeons and raced in a club for 5 years. This is where I learned about the light affecting breading cycles. This may sound crazy but I believe that even humans sexuality would change if there were no artificial light to affect us. That would include lights and fire light. I am sure you have seen on TV where some people go into a funk in the winter when there is not enough light. Then they have to sit in front of a light for a period of time and they come out of it.

My brother in law in GA. is a volunteer fireman. When I have been down there I have went to several of their training excersizes and have also been riding around with him when he had a call to a structure fire. It was a small fire in a mobile home and we had it out almost before the fire truck arrived. I hope I never have to make a run with him and witness some of the things you have. I assume you are on a volunteer fire department.?

Here is a link to my homepage. You can see some of the other things I enjoy doing. I am sure you could learn some from me if you could calm down.
http://www2.wcoil.com/~buckrun/
Steve

[CatDaddy]

Oh gesh! :rolleyes: would you like to tell us anymore about how great you are? Give me a break. :rolleyes:

you are right Buckrun. I worship you. Do you have a fan club?:rolleyes:

I wish I could tell you half of the crap Ive done. But I am not allowed.

[Buckrun]

"I wish I could tell you half of the crap Ive done. But I am not allowed."


HA HA HA HA HA I also have the displeasure of having had to work with a few guys like you. They don't last long where I work! They usually get fired because they have no respect for anybody.

Have a nice day.
Steve

[eschatts]

I think that we are beating a dead horse fellas. It looks like you all have expressed your opinions. It might be a good time to just let it go.
I think that you all are big enough to get past this. Lets just enjoy the forum.

Thanks guys

Ed

[Duffy]

Oh, man, and just when we were getting into the interesting pee-pees and wee-wees stuff!

[Thunderflight]

I yeah, well I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once.....

TF

http://hotel.undercovertourist.com/hotel-images/l/ORL_holiday-inn-express-intl-drive_1.jpg

[CatDaddy]

Did they have good service TF? LOL I never liked holiday inn, they dont always leave the light on for ya. :D
I agree with eschatts, this horse stopped moving a long time ago. I see its not possible to try and show some people your opinion without making them mad when they know it all. See there ya go buckrun, I learned something new. I also learned some people never grow up no matter how old they are.

Besides I didnt think McDonalds ever fired anyone. But what do I know.

[CatDaddy]

Alright, look Buckrun. Im calling a truce. Im tired of argueing with you on this site, I get on here to talk not argue like acouplt of old women. You have your views and I have mine. But trust me, you could learn alot from some of us young fellas.

[Buckrun]

Originally posted by CatDaddy
But trust me, you could learn alot from some of us young fellas.


I still question if you have read any of my posts. Here is part of my last one. I think you were just in attack mode and didn't even read it! This will be my last post in this thread so say what ever you want. I will drop it like the Mod wants.
Steve


Originally posted by Buckrun
Did you even read any of my posts? I am not a know it all. But I have had over twice as many years on this planet than you and have had that much more time to experience and learn. I also am still learning from my elders. I also work in a place where I am around a lot of young people that run in age from 16 - 25. I am learning a lot from them. We discuss the newer tech. stuff. Several are in college or have graduated. I am really impressed with some of the younger generation. They also know they can learn from me. We are always asking each other questions.

Right now I am trying to learn about DVD cameras and recorders for the PC. One of the young men I have been talking to is taking some classes in digital movie making. He is the one that gave me the nick-name Al Borlin because I know all about the tools in our hardware department. He is also into fishing so I loaned him a box full of the items that you can make spinners with. I use to make my own spinners like the rooster tail and mepps. He is going to try to make some for his own use. A couple others come to me and we talk guns, hunting and shooting.

You say I need to look at myself. HA Here are some more of my accomplishments!

Steve

[CatDaddy]

I read all your posts. I just didnt think you were listening.

[CatDaddy]

anyone else want to talk Spring squirrels? LOL ;)

[shotgun]

And they say no one cares about squirrel hunting anymore lol

[Thunderflight]

http://www.tcp.com/~hawkeye/graphics/killer-squirrel.jpg

[Thunderflight]

http://www.thosebears.com/images/squirrel.jpg

[Thunderflight]

http://i13.ebayimg.com/02/i/03/da/f1/8f_12_sb.JPG

[geezer]

Are those spring or fall skewrls?

Hey TF - i started working when i was 12 1/2 but the didn't have currency then - got paid in skewrl jerky - you had it made - ha

[Steve]

Ok I think this one is a little overheated.... closing.