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Andy Gehle
03-07-2005, 09:01 AM
I kick around a few different sites that reflect my outdoor pursuits. I suppose I've been around here for a couple years or so. Each site has it's ups and downs in regards to posts and content. Obviously, each individual is going to have diverse ideas and opinions and unique ways of conveying those ideas.
The difference between what I perceive to be a good site and a bad site has always been the moderators, and their level of involvement in the content of the site.
I see this forum as having just taken a turn towards the negative with a recent thread and the level of interaction with a moderator. Obviously, I'm talking about the posted picture of the kid with the gun to the head.
Let me start by saying that I completely respect the fact that the moderator saw the materail as "poor taste" and chose to delete it. I don't know if I completely agree with his opinion, but I respect his intentions. IF the moderator's original reply was his only one on the topic, than I'm OK with that. However, he continued to rant, berate, disrespect and began name calling.

"Showing a picture with a gun pointed to your head only shows ignorance and that your not totally balanced, ask any shrink they will tell you that you should be committed for possible mental defects."

This is where you started to lose me. Instead if sticking to your point, defending YOUR actions, or explaining why the poster's ACTIONS were in poor taste, you take a turm down the personal attack highway.

"I don't piss and moan everytime I read something that I don't like that you members write, I don't abuse my status as a moderator here. Did you ever think thats why I'm in this position as moderator. I let you guys go on and on when most of the time when your ranting is senseless just like it is now."

Again. you're losing respect with each keystroke. "Piss and moan", I think right after you say that you talk about EACH person beig an ambassador of the site.

"And to think I fought for some of you peoples rights, where the hell were you when I was getting shot at and crawling in holes in the jungle to root out the enemy and crawling around in the sand to keep your rights as Americans. I'll tell you where most of you were , you were setting on your asses back home bitching about the bull**** your bitching about now. Yea I'm an anti, I'm anti of people who think they have a right to publish content that might possibly cause children harm when they have never lifted a finger in their life to defend their country or walk in the shoes that many of us have served to give you the right to live in a free country."

Ummmmmm, what? Is your point that I have NO RIGHT to an opinion because I haven't served my country? Give me a break. You have now stepped WAAAYYYY over the boundary of moderator to just another ranting, incoherent babbler whose arguement is based on connecting invisible dots.
If I had served, then can I post controversial pictures? Can you? I'm confused as to what your service to our country has anything to do with what was being talked about.

Does your service to our country give you a free pass to use **** for cuss words. How about me. Can I say BULL***** and still be an embassador of the site? Or are the "*" reserved for those that have served?
BTW, the "Bull**** and bitching" choice of words, VERY NICE for the youngsters for whom you have professed to be working on their behalf.

" Thats typical of a 23 year old person, you have never lived life to see that your actions here might have an adverse effect on the children that visit here. I am here to protect children from things like this so get used to it, if you don't like it move on down the road."

Consistency seems to be your forte, Supermoderator.

Good luck with the whole moderator thing. You seem to have a knack.




Thunderflight
03-07-2005, 09:23 AM
Steve,

I think your going to need to break out the paddle soon.....:eek: ;) :eek: :D :eek:

TF

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countyroad
03-07-2005, 09:59 AM
I sure missed a lot in the last few days. I didn't realize my picture created such a frenzy. Yep it was a joke alright. The regular members seemed to get the joke. I'll clarify it for those didn't get it.

With all the crossbow slinging going on another topic was started about crossbows. I put the picture up as a symbolism to just shoot myself and put an end to the mysery. I didn't mean to cause any problems for bowhunter1989 from Wisconsin. I guess I didn't add anything constructive.

The picture did show poor gun safety that is correct. Poor gun safety of the individual, NOT ME. The guy in the picture is not me, so don't worry. I got the picture as simply as doing a google image search. As far as I'm concerned there is a lot worse shown on the news on a regular basis.

Ohio Sportsman (super moderator)
You said you read posts everyday? If that was the case you would've understood the picture, whether you thought it was inappropriate or not. As far as not being proud of my membership here. Well in the many posts that I've made on here I've added a lot more to the site than you have. I'm not tooting my own horn here, but you've had very few posts and the ones I've read attack me as much as they do that one picture. To say I don't play with a full deck, well that is ignorant. To say I shouldn't be allowed to own firearms? HA!! I own several and I am plenty safe. My stepfather hates guns, but he trusts me to bring/keep my weapons in his house where I have a younger brother. Don't question my gun safety.
You say you're here to protect children? You have great language for such a rolemodel.
(By the way I don't know if Steve wants his last name on here)

Most of you folks here are a one way street and if someone does not agree with your views then you bash them
That sure sounds like you're talking about yourself there buddy. We have great debates on here and from what I've noticed over the time I've been a member on here everyone is pretty accepting. (For the record I have nothing against crossbows.)

Andy Gehle
Ummmmmm, what? Is your point that I have NO RIGHT to an opinion because I haven't served my country? Give me a break. You have now stepped WAAAYYYY over the boundary of moderator to just another ranting, incoherent babbler whose arguement is based on connecting invisible dots.


Couldn't have said it better.

I like this site. I like the members and topics that are on here. I've gotten together with people I've met on here. I hope that Super Moderator OS hasn't just set the tone for the way things are going to be on here in the future. The deleting of the picture doesn't bother me. It's the babbling of Super Moderator OS that gets under my skin.

Thunderflight
03-07-2005, 10:37 AM
Can someone get me a diet coke? I don't want to miss this one...:D

TF

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XX78
03-07-2005, 10:49 AM
Good post Andy

Ohio Sportsman
03-07-2005, 10:59 AM
What we have here is a failure to communicate some people you just can't reach. Please do not put this site in a liability issue by posting photo's such as countryroad did. I guess you would feel real proud of yourself if a child would have mimicked your picture and blew their head off. That photo was not a benefit to this site, and it was not a benefit to your posting abilities whether it was in jest or not. Countryroad created a liability for this site by his actions, I'm not going to keep explaining that to you. If you want to be an asset to this site try using better judgement on your posting content, not content that might be a negative or a liability to a child or this site. Attacking me is going to get you nowhere, you need to move past this. I don't care what you think, this member needed chastized for his poor choice and I did it and I'm not taking back my words. If you don't like my actions complain to the site administrator Steve, he put me in a position to regulate content. I saw negative content to this site and content that could possibly harm a child which in turn can create a harmful setting for any child who visits.The bottom line is content was posted that created a liability to this site and possible harm to children, it will not be tolerated by myself while I'm in this position and if you don't like it then either shut up about it or move on down the internet highway.