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SenecaBow
01-06-2003, 09:14 PM
I shoot 100 gr. Thunderheads but would like to try an mechanical broadhead. I have shot fixed bladed heads all my life and they have never let me down, but I still want to try something new. Any idea's on what work's in the mec world?




Nut
01-06-2003, 09:26 PM
Sorry Seneca all I use are 125 grain Nugent blades on my arrows and crossbolts. I love the way they perform and fly.;)

bks
01-06-2003, 09:35 PM
I shoot 85 grain Thunderheads. I tried the Rocket Aerohead mechanicals for one season about 5 years ago. They fly great, just like the same weight field points, but after shooting a few deer with them I switched back to the Thuderheads because of very poor penitration with the mechanicals.

redneck66
01-06-2003, 11:00 PM
I shoot 100 gr. Thunderheads. They fly really true and are very sharp out of the box. I thought about goin to mechs but i figured there was no reason to take a chance when the thunderheads are performing. I've heard of instances when people have takin quarterting shots and the mechs didnt open because of the angle of entry. I would suggest making sure you have enough KE.

gamegetter1
01-07-2003, 12:05 AM
I shoot 100 grain muzzy's. Never had a problem, and they cam recomended. Took my first deer with a bow this past year, and it really performed well.


David

Caribou Dreamer2
01-07-2003, 12:43 AM
I used to use muzzy 100 but about two years ago i switched over to 100 grain spitfire by naps and love them,they leave a very large hole and do a wonderful job.I personaly have killed two bucks with them and i know alot of other guys that shoot them with great success.
The one big thing to remember when using mechanicals is you need kinetic energy at least 60lbs or better for them to perform at there best.I shoot easton evolutions 400's with a 100 grain spitfire at 424 grain arrow at 274 fps pushing 69 lbs of engery and man does it hit hard.

flathunter
01-07-2003, 01:13 AM
Thunderhead 125 for me

Stacker
01-07-2003, 06:47 AM
Thunderhead 100's for Deer/Pigs/Turkeys with compound, 125's for Bear/Bou an if i'm luck enough to hunt Elk or Moose in the future. Nugent 125's for Recurve. All proven deadly, no gimicks, no BS, no doubts!

xxkilla
01-07-2003, 06:57 AM
I mostly use the good ol Thunderhead 100, but I do like to try new things too. I shot and killed a hog this season with a Mechanical broadhead Snyper by Rocky Mountain, it did the job fine. I got a a complete pass through and a short blood trail about 30 yds is all he went after the shot.
I tried the 2 blade fixxed heads last season like the Nudge blades and Modoc cut on impact, I was never satisfied with the blood trails even though they were short not alot of blood on the ground.
I looking foreward to getting and trying the new RazorCaps soon they should be available this spring. You can check them out at www.razorcaps.com

Basementdweller
01-07-2003, 07:47 AM
100 grain spitfire. No problems. Kinda expensive.

Hoytme2
01-07-2003, 08:01 AM
I personally use 85 grain thunderheads and I love them. Many "experts" say you need to use at least 100 gr. for deer sized animals but I disagree. I did use some mecanicals for one season but I did not like them at all! I used...... ........ man, I cant remember the name of the manufacturer but they also make Deadheads which are a fabulous fixed blade...ask ithoyts! The reason I did not like them was I like to shoot all year with broadheads and I was always breaking or bending the blades while practicing and I know several people who do not like the performance on quartering shots. I do not think that the extra cutting diamater is worth the risk of wounding a deer. My thunderheads are outstanding. I had a doe at twenty yards this year and my arrow passed through cutting a rib on each side and passing through the front right leg before burrying itself six inches in the ground. This was a quartering away shot and the deer ran about 90 yards. I will never switch!!!

Stacker
01-07-2003, 08:26 AM
what are ya flingin' -em with Hoytme2? I'm assuming a Hoyt. I want back last fall to Hoyt and bought a MagnaTec. It's not a $700 bow but it's damn fast and almost as quiet as my recurve.

eyetaker
01-07-2003, 09:21 AM
I learned this the hard way. If your bow does not shoot at least 265fps don't use anything but fixed blade. I lost a buck last year that was shot in the shoulder with a spitfire. I had the first Buckmaster bow and carbon arrows and shot the buck 2 inches from perfect at 22yds and it barley bled. I tracked for about 1000yds over a period of 12hrs and didn't find it until gun season. After cutting into the buck to find out why it took so long to die I saw that the blades didn't open and penatrated just far enough to poke a hole in thelung with the point. It was really disappointing. I have a Mathews Q2 now and can shoot the machanical without concern.

Sovy123
01-07-2003, 03:17 PM
ya i shoot an 85 grain thunderhead and all im pushin is 55 pound draw weight. It shoots 230 fps and it hits hard as heck. My arrows go further in a the target than my dads and he shoots 65 pound draw weight BUT with an older bow. Mine is a new Martin. But anyways this was my first year hunting archery...I guess i never got into it before well anyways i shot a doe at 23 yards the arrow passed through the animal and into the ground 2 inches and it went through 2 ribs so i think all the bull crap people say bout the need to shoot 85 grain tips and the lower draw weight is not true. just thought id say something lol everyone shoot stright and have a good year.

CARPN-JAKE
01-07-2003, 05:15 PM
I've used quite a few different broadheads...last yr I tried some spitfires for some late season does...I "field tested" em on 3 and they worked good...This yr I was back to fixed blades though becuase I didn't like having any doubt about penetration and performace...I've shot 4 so far this yr with 115 Grain muzzy 4 blds. and am about to declare them the best heads I've used....I've gotten complete pass thurs on does at 5, 10 and 35 yds and also on a 170# field dressed 10 pt. at 10 yds..All the arrows were buried in the ground on the other side...2 of the deer, the buck and one of the does left a blood trail a blind man coulda followed by feel...From now on I'm stickin with fixed bld. muzzys that way I have one less thing to worry about going wrong cause i can screw up enough things on my own.....lol.

Še§perado™
01-07-2003, 05:22 PM
I use 100 gr. Thunderheads and don't want to change. I have killed several game animals from deer to groundhogs and never had a problem. So why change.;)

atrkyhntr
01-07-2003, 06:18 PM
I shoot both because I could not get the fixed to shoot god out of my crossbow...
100 gr. Thunderheads with my HighCountry
125 gr. SpitFire with the Horton

No probs to date knock on wood!!!

george tinkham
01-07-2003, 06:24 PM
I use 1970 freddy bears 125gr..

lureboy98
01-07-2003, 10:01 PM
I'm not sure what kind I shoot, my dad just took them off some of his arrows, but seeing as how he got a pass-through, I think they work well enough. They are fixed.

LookMa-NoHands!
01-07-2003, 11:39 PM
I'm shooting the new Montec G-5's. Fixed blades. These things seem nearly indestructable. They are a 1-piece stainless molded head, with blades that have very thick bases and taper towards the cutting edge. Pretty expensive head, but since they are re-sharpenable, I could see a person shooting 20+ deer with one head. I've got 4 this year on my current one.

Before these, I shot Wasps Hammer SST's and was very happy with them. Fixed blade all the way. I've heard too many horror stories about mechanicals to even consider using them.

Troph-E-Hunter
01-08-2003, 08:25 AM
Bad experience with a vortex.

Great chest shot at 15 yards and a blade didn't retract. The doe was found the next morning still alive and I had to put her down then. I swore to never use them again....just too risky. I can't understand my own reason to induce a risky broadhead, when a fixed blade is more reliable and doesn't have to do special work but dive in and rip!!

Looks like thunderheads have a good portion of this market!

Ohio Bill
01-08-2003, 08:51 AM
125 GRAIN Spitfires!! Ill never use anything else!!! mechanical:D

Pike
01-08-2003, 05:33 PM
I have been using, 100 GR. Thunderheads for a number of years now and I get great arrowflight with them. Pike

Lance
01-08-2003, 05:55 PM
On the rare occasions I break away from my bird dogs anymore I fixed. shoot 125 gr. Satelite Titans. I like a full cutting tip.

lureboy98
01-08-2003, 06:33 PM
THUNDERHEADS!!! Thats what I shoot, work great.

Turkeyfoot
01-08-2003, 07:30 PM
2-bladed Snuffers slice right thru 'em and once in a while I break out the old Fred Bears,too!-------TF:D

Basementdweller
01-08-2003, 09:37 PM
I am amazed at the amount of thunderheads.........I figured most guys shot muzzys.


So why thunderhead over muzzy?? The design is very similar.

I was considering both of them or steelforce or snuffers for my nova. It is kinetically challenged and I dont want the risk of a mechanical on a lo KE bow. as someone mentioned earlier xbow or a high speed compound is what you need for a mechanical to work reliably.

eyetaker
01-09-2003, 09:23 AM
I shoot Muzzy's because they don't plane out like a T-Head. Muzzey's give you a more consistant arrow flight. That being said don't think that T-Heads won't group as well or as good as Muzzy's because they will. For a right handed shooter shooting a release the arrow upon release will "kick" to the right slightly before getting on a stright line to the target. A tight shot might be affected?? Maybe hitting something unforeseen. Set un a video camera and watch your arrow flight in slo-mo.

Rut-N-Strut
01-09-2003, 04:37 PM
Muzzy 125 - 3 blade. I've had too many buddies that have horror stories about mechanicals.

Še§perado™
01-09-2003, 04:47 PM
eyetaker , all of that must be from personal testing. I tried Muzzy and they did plan, low and left. I shot a thunderhead on the next shot and it hit where i was aiming. Thunderheads just about the perfect broadhead. Just screw them on with the o-ring and shoot. Most muzzy's you have to spin them and move them on the shaft. In my testing of the two the Thunderhead won hands down. Just my opinion you understand. ;)

rjolenic
01-09-2003, 08:08 PM
I like the Deadhead 100 gr by Golden Key. They are an awesome fixed blade and are capable of right/straight helical blade positions. I got them from HOYTME 2 who posted that he likes the Thurnderheads as do most others here. However, he has sold me on the Deadheads and I plan on buying stock in the company, since I also practice with my broadhead on all year long... i go through quite a few of them. They are very durable broadhead and also shoot straight.

rjo

woodland_archer
01-09-2003, 08:51 PM
I use cut on contact heads most of the time, Bear Razorheads, Wensel Woodsman, Magnus. I also use Rocky Mountain Premiers sometimes. I shoot a recurve so mechanicals are out of the question. I wouldn't use them even if I was a compound shooter.

If a compound bow is tuned right, and broadheads spin perfect on the arrows then one should be able to get good flight out of the fastest compound with fixed blade heads.

Most mechanicals have proven to be fragile, and unreliable.

Check out the broadhead tests at www.american-hunter.com

Jeremy

Steve
01-09-2003, 09:46 PM
For those who like the fixed blades, I suggest you check out the B52. It's a 2 blade made out of one solid piece of metal. Search for it on the net and you should find their websit.

cms0800
01-22-2003, 07:21 PM
125 gametrackers work for me. fixed 3 blade cant find 3 blade gametrackers. only got 6 heads left.

Trumbull Archer
01-23-2003, 08:25 PM
100gr Thunderheads this year.
90gr Spitfire mechanical last year.
I carry 3 arrows w/fixed, and 3 w/ mechs
Killed my last with the Spitfire, but I am staying with the Thunderheads, and possibly another fixed blade next year
T.A.

scott trout
01-23-2003, 08:51 PM
i shot and found 7 deer this year(urban tags) i really killed 10 if you figure in the ones that i couldent find because of those @#$%^& mechanical broadheads. one of them was a nice 12 pt. they dont make a big enough entry wound to provide a good blood trail. was on my hands and knees till 10pm looking for the blood trail of that buck. my eyes still havent fully recoverd after that, little drops of blood on red leafs with a flash light in your hand will drive you insane!!!!

Q2XL
01-24-2003, 10:17 AM
tried mechanicals but am goin back to the old reliable muzzy 100 next year .like the way the mechanicals fly but leary of them openin

Beau Martin
01-26-2003, 02:37 PM
100 grain koplins for me

Spitfire
02-03-2003, 07:04 PM
I use 100gr. NAP Spitfire's. I have taken my last 5 deer with this head and have not had one problem with them. My last deer being a 198lb. field dressed 12 pointer. I shot him at 25yds and got a pass thru, he ran approx. 70-75 yds. before expiring. It left a entrance & exit hole twice the size of the cutting diameter. My own personal opinion is that any head will do what you want it to with a well placed arrow. Alot of people like to blame the broadhead they are using for a bad shot that they made. I guess the broadhead is easier to blame than yourself. I know iv'e done it!!

Thunderflight
07-17-2003, 10:03 AM
I've been shooting Muzzy three blade 100's for the last five or six years. I'm going to switch to Magnus snuffers.

I've used Rocket Slammer Head's for turkey hunting too.

TF

Buckmaster
07-17-2003, 12:08 PM
Wasp Hammerjack 100 grain mechanical here. They leave an 1 3/4" hole.

Tailfeathers
07-17-2003, 12:39 PM
Mechanical on the x-bow (Ok, Ok that’s the other thread)
125 grain spit fires

fixed on the stick (recurve)

Those spit fires are great!
Spring 2002 I used them on a boar hunt.
Took 2 pigs 1 shot.
Went clean through both cartilage plates, one shoulder blade and cut 3 ribs.
Made about a 70 degree turn on the way out and went into the jaw/skull of a pig following it up the trail. I did use a 2nd shot to put the extra pig down quickly.
Used one on a bear last year. Clean cut going in, and about gutted it on the way out.
(shot was quartering towards). Died about 5 yards from where it was shot.
Yes, it was a small bear. (see the picture I posted earlier)

Shot answer spit fire ROCK. But, I wouldn’t even try it on the recurve.

Mathewq2
07-17-2003, 12:49 PM
I use NAP 100 gr. Spitfire. Last year was the 1st year using them. I shot a doe with on and she only went 10 yards from where i shoot her. A clean pass thru

Full Rut
07-26-2003, 09:38 PM
I have always used 90 and 100gr. 4 blade Muzzys. No problems , great flying heads. But I just ordered the new Rocky Mountain Ironhead 100's. They have a cut on contact razor tip with three fixed blades behind it. I cant wait to shoot em.

Thunderflight
07-26-2003, 10:33 PM
I'm going to be using explosive broad heads this year. :)

TF

Aimrite
07-27-2003, 12:09 AM
I have had good luck taking 4 Deer with 100g 3 Blade Spitfires. All pass thru.
My only complaint is the light blood Spray instead of heavy blood trail. The spray effect I experienced is harder to see. Last year I was hunting Elk so I went with 100g 4 Blade muzzy. Those muzzy flew beautiful so I stuck with them.

jcdflint
07-28-2003, 09:10 AM
I'd love to use a mechanical broadhead, but I can't figure out how to flintnapp one yet. Jeff

george tinkham
08-05-2003, 10:22 PM
i like 2blade freddy bears but heres the problem,new stainless steel that dont rust or oldy goldies that do rust.they fly good an both group weell together for me.either will slice my finger off quite easily.i will have 6 arrahs in my new selway detachable bowquiver.should i go 50/50 or go stainless all the way???either will be attached to easton gamegetter alumidum shaftswith5 1/2 in. shield cut highbacks an bohning classic nocks with indexer...readdy to rock,dock

Thunderflight
08-08-2003, 03:39 PM
What no catagory for exploding broadheads?

Thunderflight

http://www.ods.net/~poohbear/dementia/P0000725.JPG

george tinkham
08-08-2003, 05:39 PM
why is the broads head going to xplode???

Thunderflight
08-08-2003, 06:33 PM
You didn't see Rambo II?

TF

COB
08-08-2003, 08:35 PM
I guess It's the old school for an old poop. I shoot
145 or 160 grain Snuffers on a total weight arrow
of at least 600 grains. Works for me!

Thunderflight
08-08-2003, 09:46 PM
OK, now I know I'm doomed.....

I shoot the same 160 snuffers on my wooden arrows that go to my wierd bow....

I may as well sell my compound....

TF

george tinkham
08-08-2003, 09:58 PM
in 1965 i used 135 gr. freddy bears from a shakespeare bow...in 2003 i use the same freddy bears minus the bleeder for 125 gr...my huntin bow is still a 1964 an a 1968 shakespeare.muh total weight is a 2018 at 525 gr...i shoot this shaft from the 50# or 55#...now that is old school

Thunderflight
08-08-2003, 10:01 PM
Or just to cheap to by a new bow and arrows.....:)


TF

george tinkham
08-08-2003, 10:03 PM
i omit i prolly save a bundle on bows but as you know them gg 2 arrahs aint cheap...

Thunderflight
08-08-2003, 10:04 PM
Yes they are some "high" quality arrows. Just like your "high" quality camo you wear too....;)

TF

george tinkham
08-08-2003, 10:13 PM
MOST MY CAMO WAS BOUGHT AT A PAWN SHOP AT FT. STEWART GA WHERE MUH SISTER WAS STATIONED.she retired after 20 some yrs. about the newest camo i got was when real tree first came out ...an i got a asat vest from long ago that many would kill for an then there is the ww2 camo just like freedy bear used to wear

Thunderflight
08-08-2003, 10:17 PM
I thought this was your ideal of camo?

TF

http://www.dolluniforms.com/plad-66.jpg

Thunderflight
08-08-2003, 10:17 PM
http://www.vtarmynavy.com/images/56.jpg

george tinkham
08-08-2003, 10:22 PM
oh you mean my flannel flage(flannoflage)...i got it in brn. leves/dirt,early season grn leaf/brush an late tree stan/branche gray an yella/grn.corn field

Thunderflight
08-09-2003, 11:45 PM
George, is this you bowfishing?

TF

http://www.panamarelocation.com/images/PanamaPhotos/Natural/a/Indiginas_shooting.jpg

george tinkham
08-10-2003, 12:10 AM
too short it must be real bow

Thunderflight
08-10-2003, 10:18 AM
Your right I got you mixed up with him.

TF



http://rockshop.virtualave.net/images/DouginWinter.jpg

george tinkham
08-10-2003, 10:32 AM
now that is the best an purtiest picture you ever put on here...

Thunderflight
08-10-2003, 01:03 PM
This guy is a "real" trad archer.

TF

http://rockshop.virtualave.net/images/bowshot.jpg

Caribou Dreamer2
08-10-2003, 09:24 PM
looks like a good way to get your ass shot here in Ohio.

Caribou Dreamer2
08-10-2003, 09:28 PM
Whoops forgot to tell you fixed blades.



http://www.unlimitedoutdoors.com/muzzy-3blade-75gr.gif

george tinkham
08-10-2003, 10:16 PM
that deer hide guy was on the cover of tbh mag. or prim. archer mag

Q2XL
08-10-2003, 10:40 PM
was shootin muzzy 100 but ryin montec g5 100 this year got them
flyin good will find out come deer season

Thunderflight
08-11-2003, 11:12 AM
Especially on public land.....

TF

quailman
08-11-2003, 08:20 PM
85 gr 3 blade muzzy.

Tried the mechanical, opened early, lost a buck. Not going to take any more chances with that.

CritterGitter
08-12-2003, 12:36 PM
I shoot 100 gr Spitfires. I have discovered a slight flaw in these broadheads that is easy to solve and would likely prevent errors and nightmares. The genious design of the Spitfire is that there is no O ring which is supposed to improve reliability. It does, but there is a catch. The blades are screwed in with a spring retention system. Over time and use(traveling with bow) the screws for the blades will loosen and I have even had the blades fall right off the broadhead when it was just sitting in my truck. To solve this dilemma, I add just a drop of super glue to the screw head. The screw remains fixed in that position and the proper retention is maintained on the blades. No more problems and no more worries. I have taken 2 bucks with Spitfires. Funny thing is the only deer I have ever shot at and missed was an 8 point buck and I was using a fixed broadhead back then. It was about 6 years ago. I admit though, the broadhead didn't cause the miss. It was operator error.

:cool:

CG

george tinkham
08-13-2003, 07:57 AM
I HAVE KILT DEER WITH BROADHEADS of various manufactures...bear razorheads,zwickies,thunderheads,grizzlies,sattlel ite oreos,kolpin,rockie mountain,ma3.wasp an prolly a few i forgot.the hardest to get fly with that bunch was the sattlelite but when i finally got it flyin straight it kilt deer as dead as the big ole zwickie delta that punched the biggest hole .some were wood arrahs,some alum.most shots in the kill zone were pass thrus.prolly the leader here was 2 bld. on pass thrus an thats why i use them today.i started with freddy bears about 64-65 an thats what i am usin again xcept in 2 bld sted of 4.i never had a pass thru with 4 but then again i had 45# with longer shots an proll not a real good tuned arrah back then.if it were not for the delta windplanin now an then it would be my baby.125 thunderhead is my favorite of that type.i am still known to put em in the quiver now an then.i have oprolly kilt more deer with them then bear razorhead

madriver223
08-13-2003, 08:50 AM
100 gr. spitfires

have yet to have a problem with them. i shoot a hoyt viper and its pretty fast. the fixed blade broadheads i had a hard time with keeping true to flight. spitfires fly perfectly. i saw them take a bear last sept in ontario and they worked great.

MR

jamieknwohio
04-02-2005, 11:46 AM
fIXED MUZZY 75 GRAIN 300 DOMINATOR PSE ARROWS!

Caribou Dreamer2
04-02-2005, 12:39 PM
Fixed

MUZZY MAN
04-02-2005, 01:01 PM
Fixed, 115 Gr. Muzzy 4 blade

OHBOW76
04-02-2005, 03:50 PM
I use a mechanical 100 Gr rocket sidewinder.I have had great success with it.If I didnt use it I would go back to waht I use to use a 100 Grain three balde muzzy.Both broadheads have a trocar tip, which I am completely sold on for penetration especially when inadvertent contact with bone occurs.When my hunting partner was still new to bowhunting about three years ago he took an ill advised shot on a nice eight point almost right beneath his stand. He was off slightly so he hit the deer dead in his spine.When we were field dressing the deer we noticed that 3/4's of the muzzy broadhead was protruding through a vertebrae.That is excellent penetration as the vertebrae are very dense.I work in the medical field and they use trocar tips on the devices they use to make ports for laproscopic surgery.I think that says something.

Redhunter1012
04-02-2005, 04:19 PM
Fixed. 100 gr muzzy 4-blade