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SenecaBow
01-01-2003, 06:58 PM
Do you smoke in your tree stand?
Še§perado™
01-01-2003, 07:05 PM
I don't smoke at all. But I think the smell will get you winded and spook everything around you. I try to stay clean and odor free as possible.:D ;)
Steve
01-01-2003, 07:11 PM
I don't smoke either, but from what I have seen with those who do, it doesn't make much difference. I'm not sure the deer think that it is a threatening scent. Might even make a good cover scent :)
lureboy98
01-01-2003, 07:19 PM
My dad smokes in his treestand. He got a deer, and I'm deerless. I don't know about making a difference or not if you smoke in the treestand. I don't smoke period, and never will.
brock ratcliff
01-01-2003, 07:23 PM
I do not smoke but I wish I did......Let me explain. I do all I can to eliminate scent while bowhunting, to NO avail. I get busted every time a deer comes downwind, even from a tree, way up a tree. I have filmed a friend who is a chain smoker. While filming I have seen deer walk directly through expeld smoke without even looking for the source.....I think it works as a powerful cover scent.....I read somewhere that the Indians would "smoke" their clothing and bodies, may try it.
Aimrite
01-01-2003, 08:38 PM
All I know is encourage your smoking family and freinds to quit so they dont suffer longpainfull death that most smokers do.
Ive known too many hard core pro smokers that wished they listened on there death beds.
Myself i lost 3 too the cancer sticks and many freinds.
I dont mean change subjest but I think smoking shouldnt be encouraged any shape or form.
AIM
flathunter
01-01-2003, 08:40 PM
I dont smoke, but I do dip snuff..I have had deer walk up to ten feet away, while spitting Copenhagen all over the ground..In fact most of the deer I have shot I have had a dip in....It could have spooked some I have not seen however?
flathunter
01-01-2003, 08:44 PM
Just thought of this..I had a Buddy, who smoked like a freight train. And he took several Ohio deer with gun and bow, all from the ground while smoking...He told me he once had an 8-point walk up behind him, "he was sitting on the ground" and the deer passed so close he said he could have grabbed it's leg, while smoking.
george tinkham
01-01-2003, 09:26 PM
I once had a pet deer and so did a freind.I also had a girlfreind that had a pet deer albino buck.THEY ALL LOVED TO EAT CIGGIES.Cover scent, not!This is an attractant.
lureboy98
01-01-2003, 09:29 PM
I've heard of people who smoke their clothes with fire before they go out, they hang them over or by a fire so their clothes will smell like smoke. It must work. Do you have a picture of the albino deer?
Ohio Bill
01-02-2003, 07:45 AM
Its kinda weird but I hunt between 2 campgrounds....The deer smell smoke all the time. I ve had a Cig in my mouth and had deer come within 10 yrds of me and never be spooked.. I think they are used to it.:p
Caribou Dreamer2
01-02-2003, 08:47 AM
Doint smoke so i would have to say no to smoking on stand,But have heard of guys smoking on stand and do very well.
Spitfire
01-02-2003, 09:48 AM
I used to smoke but never did it while hunting. I guess if it does'nt bother the deer then more power to ya!
rjolenic
01-02-2003, 10:37 PM
Weird topic, but I think that the more natural you can keep it the better. I guess I would think that siliva is a natural thing to deer whether it be human spit, fox spit or cat spit. What!??? I guess after all it's a toss up, who knows for sure. Just test the waters and see what works.
rjo
gamegetter1
01-03-2003, 12:06 AM
But one of my uncles hunted to no avail for a little while. He was always told to keep the scent to the barest minimum and that would be the number one way to secure a deer. He said that one hunt he gave in and lit up a cigarette. Two minutes later a doe came down a trail 10 yards from him, and he took her... his one and only.
David
Lundy43123
01-03-2003, 06:13 AM
I have been smoking in my stands while hunting for years. I have intentionally lit up to see what effect the smoke would have on the deer. Some would take notice and some would pay no attention at all.
I think the question has to be as Pike stated in the thread about "chewing on stand" how many deer are spooked by the smoke that we never see? Has the big buck we've been waiting on been spooked from walking by us because of the smoke, who know's.
As primarily a gun hunter now I have it pretty easy when it comes to overcoming a deer sense of smell. Where I hunt the wind is from the southwest about 80% of the time. I set up my ground boxes about 80-100 yds away from where I expect to shoot the deer with the wind in my favor and just smoke away. Downwind of my boxes is typically 300-400 yds of open field so I'm not to concerned about spooking anything downwind.
Kim
wet net
01-03-2003, 09:21 AM
I have always smoked in my treestands but always put the butts out in a film container so they where not on the ground around my stand so the scent would be less and not littering at the sametime and have shot both does and bucks as close as 10 feet from the stand while smoking.
I really believe that it does not bother them
atrkyhntr
01-07-2003, 05:25 PM
This is a good topic in that you can never have a wrong answer LOL
I quit smoking this past New Yreas Eve and hope to stay smoke free till my last clean breath...
That said I never smoked in my tree or driving to or from my hunting areas... on about 75% of my hunts and can say I have seen more quality deer when not smoking then when smoking, I keep a log that is now over 22 years old. For the last 7 years I have kept a log on my clients and the non-smokers see more quality deer then smokers. Quality = alpha or shootable bucks.
Its my hope that all the smokers/dippers can quit and live a long healthy life!!! :D
chopiq
01-10-2003, 12:17 AM
Hey atrkyhntr, I see you run beardbuster guide. I deer hunt in that area and visit that store all the time when I'm in the area. There are some nice pictures of deer hanging there. ARe they from your guide service?
As for smoking never smoked and never will, but my brother does and all I know is in the last 4 years I've gotten 6 deer bow hunting and he only had one shot, which he missed. Plus I see twice the deer he does and we hunt in the same area.
atrkyhntr
01-10-2003, 05:22 AM
Hey chopiq...
I can't say all the deer in the photos are taken by our cleints but all do come from the area.... 95% of the photos you see in the store are from hunters who checked those same deer in as the store is a checkin station too...
My top deer guide Mark has one of the best if not the best trophy deer hunting area down that way... I have never had one client complain when Mark had guided them... This may lead us to start a trophy hunt package because we simply can't take all our clients to Mark's area (private farm and Mark has exclusive rights) and decimate the quality hunts offered there. We have cleints as far away as NY come down just to hunt this farm...
How did you do this past fall? Hope you did great the whole area has some really fine bucks and a very good deer population... We'll have to toss down a couple beers one evening when we're both down at the sametime ;)
Troph-E-Hunter
01-10-2003, 07:25 AM
We should start a new poll that raises the effects of smoking while hunting....
- smoke spooks deer
- smoke doesn't spook deer.
I am just dumbfounded as to why cig smoke doesn't spook. I have seen hunters smoke before going out and they see deer. I am in awe.
However, I have heard that wood-burned smoke will not bother them as it is natural.
ShoreBoundOne
01-13-2003, 01:02 PM
I am sorry to say i do smoke in my stand. However i hunt very high out of the scent zone...i have seen plenty of deer from my stand this year just havent gotten that perfect shot oprotunity yet.
Mitch
jrf_jr
01-18-2003, 05:48 PM
Hello this is my first post on the board, This is a question many of the hunters I hunt with ALWAYS ask... I can tell you this much I have had to put Cigs out just to shoot at deer!
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Come to think about it.... I did see a deer with a guide on "How to tell if humans are around" ~>reading page "if you smell cig. smoke RUN YOUR BUTT OFF!"
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I say it does not matter - but maybe it does who knows?
Wind has everything to do with it. Your human scent is more important than any other. I use "Fresh Earth Scent" this seems to do well.
The thought of a deer being able to tell one smoke from another is hard to bleieve Fireplace vs. Cig. smoke. But maybe they are smarter than we give them cr. for. Although I do have two nice mounts that lead me to believe different.
Good reading, and I enjoy the board, Hello to all of you.
lung buster
11-24-2005, 08:34 AM
I dont smoke, but i do know guys that do and have killed very nice bucks. :confused:
Caribou Dreamer2
11-24-2005, 09:32 AM
SMOK"EM if you got them i say!!!!!!!
MUZZY MAN
11-24-2005, 09:45 AM
I smoke. Have tried to quit, and will try again until I do!!!! I have smoked in the stand and on the ground. I've had deer come within feet of me, (not yards). Just after putting one out. I don't think it has any affect on them. But I still will quit.
coonskinner
11-24-2005, 10:01 AM
its a no no...
bowhunter4evr
11-24-2005, 11:14 AM
i smoke and ive had deer walk right up while im smoking a few times i dont think it spooks them i think it makes some curious.
swantucky
11-25-2005, 10:32 AM
I smoke but would like to quit.
As far as smoking in my I stand I do but try to limit how much I smoke when bowhunting. I take a ziploc bag with me and ash in it and spit on my smoke to put it out and seal up the bag. I don't know how many deer I have spooked that I have never seen but I have had to put out a cigarette many times to shoot. I think the movement of smoking is more of a factor than the smoke itself. If the deer are downwind they are gonna smell you no matter what in my opinion.
I consider smoking my secret weapon.......not seeing any deer fire one up.......thats when they show up, when you are distracted.
Durning gun season I smoke way too much....does'nt seem to effect my sucess. I usually take 2-3 deer with a bow and 2-3 with a firearm every year.
rjolenic
11-25-2005, 11:24 AM
By the way, I think I smelled your cigarette while I was hunting the other day ............. pewwwwwwwwww! I shouldn't talk, I chew while in the stand.
Hey Swantucky !? Did you make it out this morning? I'm going out tomorrow morning. We will put the plan into effect tomorrow after I get out of the stand. I won't be out long at all, just long enough to watch the sunrise, plus an hour. I will be hitting the west-side of the baited stand.
ray
Caribou Dreamer2
11-26-2005, 03:22 PM
Your hunting over bait ,shame on you Ray thats not ethical your cheating,Miswell hunt a high fence area,Come on now i thought you were a hunter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 03:29 PM
I'm not hunting over bait this year. One of the guys I hunt with has a baited stand about 300 yards to the west of where I have a stand hung.
Both of the deer I have taken this year was because of the travel route I set up on. Go figure ....... with out the need for a fence. :D
Caribou Dreamer2
11-26-2005, 03:32 PM
Sure thats your story:D
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 03:33 PM
By the way; I smelled my buddys cigarette this morning from 800 yards away. After that, 5 deer ran circle around me, but none of then offered a clean shot. Unless of course you consider a doe that was in a full out run three yards from me. ;)
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 03:34 PM
Ask Swantucky, he'll tell you the story if you want to hear more.
Caribou Dreamer2
11-26-2005, 03:36 PM
Take it as you can.
I heard that about smoking ,I think i might stop by the gas station in the morning and buy me a pack of smokes and give it a try.Be just like hunting a high fence or a bait pile!!!!!!!!:D Easy pickings
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 03:38 PM
You should know better than anyone here CD.
high fences and bait piles now ya talkin bout my kind of huntin. ya all can keep the cigaretes and chew ill stick with some good ole deer jerky
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 03:40 PM
That's some expensive jerky.
Caribou Dreamer2
11-26-2005, 03:41 PM
Here piggy piggy:D I would post this year success but i know how you all feel about easy slob hunters.
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 03:44 PM
We would love to see the success from this year's deer camp. We welcome the photos so we can properly congratulate you. It's great to have a ton of meat in the freezer!
ya goin back piggy piggy huntin again.sweet cant wait.maybe can get a high fenced and baited one this year.:cool:
Caribou Dreamer2
11-26-2005, 03:50 PM
After last year conflict that will never happen again.But it all in good faith.
Hoytme2
11-26-2005, 07:06 PM
No baiting while on stand in a fenced in area!
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 07:09 PM
Yeah, no baiting the fenced in area .......... Na Na MO !
Hoytme2
11-26-2005, 07:21 PM
Ray got run over by the wagons tire
rjolenic
11-26-2005, 07:25 PM
Nice avitar brother. And better yet, nice blood trail. :rolleyes:
Caribou Dreamer2
11-26-2005, 07:56 PM
Smok'em if you got them
It's Not A Passion..
11-29-2005, 12:07 AM
I dip, but usually don't do it in the stand. On one occasion, I was dipping the wintergreen flavored stuff and had a spike come up and sniff it. I think he was just stupid though because he didn't even look up, run, or anything when I spit some on his head.
Woody Wood
11-30-2005, 01:52 PM
When I'm hunting I don't smoke, I get my nic. fix from chewing some Beachnut Wintergreen. Love the taste and enjoy it alot being it's the only time of the year that I will chew. But from what I am hearing in this pole I just might start lighting up when in the stand. Specialy if it is a good sent cover. (If I don't realy quit this new years 2006!)
hunTer06
11-30-2005, 03:06 PM
I dont smoke or rub or anything.
My uncle smokes while he hunts though, doesnt seem to affect the deer.
I was hunting in his climber one time, and while climbing up the tree, I was wondering how high I should go. Finally, I saw some cigarette butts jammed into the tree. I knew I was high enough at that point.;)
BigBaldOne
12-01-2005, 12:02 AM
Don't smoke, but do chew tobacco, and have had deer on numerous ocassions licking spit up right under me. I actually had a great 12pt licking chew spit and browsing branches I'd trimmed off my tree last year on my first night out, sadly, I never closed the deal on him, but he sure liked Redman Golden Blend!!!
deerhunt45
12-01-2005, 02:01 PM
first, new to forum and first post...hello all
i must admit i am a smoker but i limit myself to one every two hours when on stand...that said, i too have seen deer and had deer walk in after i had lit up. so it may have some attractive quality, who knows. i also hunt an area near a campground so maybe the deer get used to smoke. human scent, or lack of when deer hunting is the important thing. in addition to scent free clothes wash and the scent eliminator spray etc, i began wearing a full scent-lok suit 4 seasons ago and starting seeing and having shot opportunities that i must have been missing in previous years. what a difference! have had deer walk right up to base of my tree from downwind. it works.
SP Scout
12-01-2005, 02:06 PM
Welcome deerhunt45! I do not smoke at all, let alone on stand. I know a guy that chews on stand and he kills A LOT of deer. I did have a camp fire that I smothered and had some deer walk within about 5 yards of where it was.
turk2di
12-01-2005, 07:50 PM
Used to though, can't tell any difference in the number of deer i saw:confused:
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