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flathunter
01-01-2003, 04:38 PM
I just heard from a source fairly close to the Dnr, and he told me they want to make it the law where you have to where Orange for Bowhunting deer...Said they want it to be in effect for the 2003 or 2004 Bowseason...If this is true, I dont think it is needed.




Še§perado™
01-01-2003, 04:59 PM
I don't think it's needed. But you all know everytime some dumbass screws up and people complain these laws get passed.:rolleyes:

Q2XL
01-01-2003, 05:04 PM
i think the odnr is gettin a little carried away with some of the stuff there doin.hunter orange while bowhuntin that is stupid.just like desperado said some idiot does somethin dumb and every one pays for it.i mean i have heard stories of gun hunters gettin shot while wearin hunter orange.so hunter orange aint the answer.

Aimrite
01-01-2003, 05:10 PM
I have heard the same thing and It will happen. Just too many slobs out there.

Še§perado™
01-01-2003, 05:41 PM
I think these slobs out there , when caught doing something stupid should take hunter safty over until they pass with a 100%. Also give up there weapons for a year. Like grounding the children.:) But it will never happen they feel we all should pay for there screw ups.

SenecaBow
01-01-2003, 06:13 PM
I heard something about this. What I heard was that the DNR was wanting to make us bowhunters where orange when going to and coming from our stands. Once you are in your stand you can take off your vest. Not sure if this is true or not, just what I heard at a gun shop, and you guys know about stuff you hear at gun shops. :D

lureboy98
01-01-2003, 06:22 PM
I hope this doesnt happen, because it will make me spend even MORE money on clothing. I also don't think it is needed. This is another case that is a result of the irresponsible hunters. If anyone hears that this law HAS been passed and will go into effect, let us know, please.

Basementdweller
01-01-2003, 07:01 PM
Well I now wear a orange vest and hat into and out of my stand during bow season. I hope that we will be able to take it off once we are situated in our stand.

Currently it is my choice. Too many less experienced buck crazed hunters trespassing. I would rather be safe.

It may have saved the guy in hocking county....I dont think it would have saved the kid in mcconnelsville.

Lets face it the woods even in archery season is getting crowded. Lets face it if we have 100,000 archers in the woods and say 10 percent are slob hunters that is 10,000 idiots with razor sharp pointy things to stick in the next living thing to come down the trail. even if it were only one percent that is 1,000 idiots. that is a lot of fools.

Even if the state doesnt mandate it I would recommend at least a hunter orange hat and glove into and out of the stand. We are ultimately responsible for ourselves.

Aimrite
01-01-2003, 07:15 PM
Basementdweller I wish I could be optimistic as you.IMO its pushing 40%

brock ratcliff
01-01-2003, 08:37 PM
Hunter orange does not work before or after shooting light fades, therefore it would have been of no use to Cary Jenkins, the man shot in Hocking county. I am a firm believer that you cannot legislate away stupidity, I hope we dont wind up with another game law designed to counteract stupidity, it just doesnt work

redneck66
01-01-2003, 08:43 PM
I was just wondering if anyone knows if this is in effect in any other states because i cant think of any off hand? I agree though that it wont solve stupidity. People just dont think.

george tinkham
01-01-2003, 10:45 PM
again here is a thread that is based on "I heard a freind said..."Contact the ODNR.

flathunter
01-01-2003, 10:49 PM
George, this "friend" is a Wildlife officer for the ODNR He could have been pulling my leg I dont know...I have been trying to get him to join this forum to answer questions, but so far he has not signed up.

pdq 5oh
01-02-2003, 12:21 AM
So what does this do to stillhunters? Deer may not see color, but they sure see contrast. People who shoot at noise aren't going to see the orange. People who shoot at noise are going to screw up, regardless. I wish there was a way to impress upon the idiots about the first rule of hunting. POSITIVELY IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET BEFORE SHOOTING!!:mad:

SenecaBow
01-02-2003, 05:16 AM
George -- I was thinking the same as you, the E-mail was sent last night. I will post the reply here, if I get one.

When ever I hear about a bowhunter shooting another bowhunter, the very first thing that crosses my mind is.
How could this happen.

You only have a target the size of a dinner plate, a 10 inch circle on the side of a deer that is going to be a lethal shot.

I don't know, maybe it's just me. But I always thought a hunter wanted to kill his game, not wound it and have it run off and die a week or so later.

Stacker
01-02-2003, 07:17 AM
Not that I'm announcing any criminal intent but, If the "powers that be" in Columbus inact manditory orange during regular archery season this guy will be breaking that law! Shortsighted and uninformed lawmakers should be replaced!

Ohio Bill
01-02-2003, 08:51 AM
The only time i wear orange while bowhunting is when Im walking or stalking I wear a orange Hat.....There are alot of hunters out there that shoot at anything that moves...They need to take there time and make sure it isnt a fellow hunter...That reminds me of hearing about that guy that shot his son with a crossbow earlier this year....God that was horrible!!!

Stacker
01-02-2003, 03:53 PM
Bill, glad I don't "hunt" where you do! True tho, fools abound!!! "An ounce of prevention" may be worth the trouble.

mikenbow
01-02-2003, 04:05 PM
I wont be wearing blaze orange bowhunting.

Spitfire
01-02-2003, 06:38 PM
There is just something weird about wearing hunter orange while bowhunting. If a law is passed that I have to wear it I will, although I will complain every time I put it on. I took my 61/2 year old out a couple times this year with me and even took him to his first deer camp. I made him wear orange every time out.

stumpsitter
01-02-2003, 08:41 PM
Manditory? No way.

ncboman
01-03-2003, 03:33 AM
I'm fully against any such law.

A law requiring a flashlight be on before and after hours would be more effective, but I'm pretty much against any more laws anyway.

If stupidity were outlawed, our legislators would be the first to go.:D

george tinkham
01-04-2003, 08:21 PM
i'm sure some have concidered this in the odnr,it wouldn't surprise me.It might even have been brought up by a hunter or two and submited to the odnr.Who knows they get all kinds of advice,especially from these forums.xbows etc.I am not for it being mandatory but i could live with it .Double bull all the way.I myself have often wondered if I should have it on while following trails thru dense brush when trailing a hit deer and its" buck: 30",prime hunting time.I don't like putting myself in a bad situation.Next year I will carry a hunter orange vest with me.

Arrow 1
01-05-2003, 07:56 PM
You can't see orange in the dark. Would this have helped either one of the guys that got killed this year?

George, if they put it in the Columbus Dispatch, will it be true? (Thats a little inside joke between me and George.)

Še§perado™
01-05-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by ncboman



If stupidity were outlawed, our legislators would be the first to go.:D



LOL..very true...LOL;)

flathunter
01-05-2003, 11:44 PM
All I got to say is I hope it does not happen:(

Troph-E-Hunter
01-06-2003, 07:36 AM
Whether before daybreak or at sundown, walking with orange could still have its benefits. One should also think that if they still hunt and are walking around during the day, orange should be considered...especially if you are worried about others in the field. Granted, any hunter should know the difference between a deer and a person, but there are figity idiots out there. Plus you add crossbows (or guns with arrows) into the equation and you have a higher degree of danger while bowhunting.

Arrow 1
01-06-2003, 08:13 PM
Troph-E- Hunter, The last part of your post says it all!

Basementdweller
01-06-2003, 08:53 PM
trophy e hunter.....Only one guy was killed by a xbow. The other was with a compound bow. I know I called the hocking county sheriff department and asked.

Orange should be a personal choice. I chose to wear it because of my wife and kids. I dont want some slob trophy hunter sticking me with a sharp pointy thing before or after legal shooting hours.

Slobs come in all shapes, sizes and experience levels.

jeffmo
01-07-2003, 01:30 AM
"plus you add crossbows(or guns with arrows)"
this kind of stuff smells like the bowsite to me and i've heard it all before.
arrow i and troph-e-hunter,
i'm not gonna get into a big stink(again) over the crossbow issue.seems like the guys around here have been able to overlook any weapon differences and talk to each other like hunters so far,it would sure be nice to keep it that way.agree?

rjolenic
01-07-2003, 01:41 AM
This is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. If they try to enforce this, I will only wear it into my stand location, remove it when I am in the tree and then I will put it back on when I walk out! That's how I will do it. I refuse to stick out like a sore thumb while hunting so that all other people that don't agree with hunting can heckle me. You see, I hunt in NW ohio and it's very urban and you can see through the woods that we hunt when the leaves are off. So if this happens, I will have the anti's all over me ! They already are as it is!


rjo

Troph-E-Hunter
01-07-2003, 04:20 PM
Jeffmo;
I don't agree. I don't like crossbows and I will tell anyone who asks.

I think that are a lame excuse for a bowhunter. In fact, I think it is just plain laziness and hate that people say that by using a crossbow that they are bowhunting. This weapon relates a lot more to gun hunting, than bowhunting, especially how it is loaded. Just look at the stock...resembles a gun huh!

We did post this issue when the new forum opened and had some good discussions. Me and some others agree that Indiana does it right by limiting crossbows to handicapp or physically impaired people. This is the way it should be.

rjolenic
01-07-2003, 05:22 PM
The issue is making hunters wear hunter orange during archery season, not whether crossbows are, or should be legal. As long as the ODNR says they are legal, then they are. I myself shoot only a compound bow and that's how it will stay.

spencerstub
01-07-2003, 05:46 PM
who ever the jacka$$ who thought of this is must not be a bow hunter . its just one more dang thing for them try and controll us with. who in the heck sits around and thinks of this krap, i wonder if they have a life at all , i would like to meet the idiots who came up with this ideal, just because a fewcross bow hunters dont identify there targets before they shoot, they want to change things and shove there mistakes down our throats, well they should make the cross bow hunters wear hunter orange, and i know its just not xbow hunters,hunting is hunting no matter what weapon you choose, thats a preference. if it sounds like i slamming xbow hunters , its not ment that way.
just because a few idiots mess up the rest of us will pay for it

spencerstub
01-07-2003, 05:50 PM
they should make a season just for xbows so thoses who chose to use them can wear there halloween costumes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lureboy98
01-07-2003, 10:05 PM
I have to defend my crossbow. It would not have given me the chance to hunt until maybe this year. I couldn't pull it back until this year so my dad had to help me pull it back. It gave me one shot hit or miss. I may switch to a compound, but that will be even more expensive for me to buy one. Also, I could have had shots on at least two deer I would have shot with a compound but not with a crossbow becasue the tree got in the way of the wide crossbow.

jeffmo
01-07-2003, 10:11 PM
troph-e-hunter,i don't agree and don't like compound bow hunters who speak like they can walk on water and imply that crossbow hunters are lazy slobs.to me that makes them a "lame excuse" for an oudoorsman.i didn't say you had to like crossbows.you can look at them however you wish,i could care less.what i won't do is listen to someone try to tell me that a crossbow hunter puts a "higher degree of danger" in the woods when it's nothing more than a personal opinion and not a fact.that sure wasn't the case earlier this year was it.
i'd enjoy hearing your explanation on how a compound bow hunter could have made such an unfortunate mistake.
kind of goes to show that it's the hunter and not the weapon doesn't it?
if you and some others think that Indiana does it right,i'm sure that the Hoosier state would welcome you with open arms.that's the great part about this country,if you don't like it in one place you can move to another.but that won't change the fact that crossbows are legal in ohio and that there are alot of safe,ethical crossbow hunters here.me being one!

Basementdweller
01-08-2003, 07:34 AM
Trophy e hunter you are so full of deer pellets you couldn't find your head. You can hunt in indiana with a xbow. The are limited to late archery season. Only three states completely ban the xbow.

At least get your facts straight.

I like the way alabama does the hunter orange thing. If you are in a treestand over 12 feet you do not need it.

You know the best part......the xbow guys arent even organized and they get more hunting.

Troph-E-Hunter
01-08-2003, 08:05 AM
let's take the crossbow discussion to it's own thread.

also, please explain this accident that so many of you are referring to. Some people in different parts of the state have not heard about it.

Spitfire
01-08-2003, 08:25 AM
Ya know what, this horse is dead, we dont need to beat it anymore. Hunter Orange isn't all that bad of an idea if it means I can walk out of the woods without being in someones sight window. I enjoy life and my family way to much to have someone stick me with an arrow. I have never worn orange while bowhunting, but the more I think about it the more I think I am going to start. I'll just get one of those orange camo vests to wear in & out. While hunting on the ground I'll hang it near me so some moron doesn't mistake me for a critter.

Caribou Dreamer2
01-08-2003, 09:57 AM
Never really gave it much thought during the archery season but after this year i guess i will be looking into something orange even if they don't make it a law i will have something on in and out, but not on stand if i get shot at 30' in a tree all i can say is it must of been one big squirrel they were shooting at.

stumpsitter
01-08-2003, 09:19 PM
What's next, turkey season? There is no way that you could get away with wearing orange with a turkey's eyesight.

There are far more hunters being "mistaken for game" while turkey hunting than when bow hunting.

Basementdweller
01-08-2003, 09:49 PM
stumpsitter......every year it seems a couple of turkey hunters even get attacked by coyotes looking for an easy meal.

Caribo......I wear a big hunter orange boon type hat and gloves. I take them off as soon as I am situated in my stand. The best part is most of it is on close out right now.

lureboy98
01-08-2003, 11:15 PM
I might have to pick up some orange next season, but I still think the decision should be left up to the hunter.

Spitfire
01-09-2003, 08:03 AM
I agree with ya on that lureboy, it should be up to the hunter. I just know if I am going to make my son wear it I should also. Kids at that age are so impressionable and he should see me practicing what I preach.

Turkeyfoot
01-09-2003, 08:45 AM
Not a bad idea in and out of the stand if you can take it off when you get there. I believe an orange hat only would suffice. But what about the guy who likes to hunt on the ground by stillhunting?

I think we are going to see this in the future for turkey in the spring season sorry to say. But again, will you be allowed to take it off once you've set up to call? Are you then defeating its purpose? Good thread here guys----TF:confused:

Spitfire
01-09-2003, 11:15 AM
I like to do alot of still hunting and will wear an orange hat atleast if not a orange camo vest.

woodland_archer
01-09-2003, 09:11 PM
I am against manditory hunter orange requirements during the archery season. I flat out refuse to wear the stuff!!!

Jeremy