"Indian Creek Deer Camp" [Archive] - Ohio Sportsman.com

OLDHAT

01-01-2003, 09:27 PM

Well, Sorry for not getting back quickly (ya know with the holidays and such).

But anyway, the area is in "Southern Ohio". My first concern would be how far you guys have to drive? Is that a problem?

If you guys have a map to look at, here is the general area I am referring to:

Find Chillicothe on the Map (below Columbus On Rt 23) From Chillicothe, you'll take rt 35 towards Jackson From Jackson You'll take rt 93 towards Oakhill. (It takes about 1 hr to get to where we'd be hunting from Chillicothe).

It's deep in the heart of the Wayne and is called the "waterloo" section of the Wayne. It's all dirt roads and hilly terrain. Lots of deer and some good ones to boot.

Sure, a turkey hunt wouldn't be out of the question. Or a late season hunt either (this year for deer before season goes out).

Also, Like I mentioned before, if you like the area and want to hunt it other times, don't worry about me, have at it. I think that most of you will be impressed with the "wilderness and vastness" of this area...it''s freaking huge! You can pretty much drive around on the dirt roads for an hour or so and not leave the "wayne". This place does see gun season pressure, but not a lot of bow pressure. The one hollow that is called "Buffalo Indian Creek" that we'd set up camp in is a few miles long (dead end dirt rd). You can drive about 1.5-2 miles into the hollow before the road dead-ends. At the back of the hollow and on the ridge, there is another dirt rd, so if you don't like thumping up hills in the morning, a 15 minute drive can get you up on the ridges at the back of the hollow.

Although you won't have a cabin to stay in like at Zaleski, I will say that you'll see much more deer. I'd say that you'll ALL have several opportunities to take a doe and a few chances to take a buck. I know the area and know of at least 6-8 productive stand sites that you'll see deer from every day. I know 2-4 more stand sites where you may not see as many deer, but if you do, it will be a good buck.

If a few of you want to drive down and check it out and do some "snoopping" around, let me know. Bring a pair of light weight boots that won't rub blisters on your feet, and we can walk all day!

2 boys from Penn contacted me last year on "the other site" and they came down and we thumped the hills for about 8 hours. It took them about 6.5 hours to drive here, and they were impressed, although they couldn't make it back to hunt this year, I made 2 pretty good friends out of it and enjoyed meeting fellow bowhunters and "shooting the *****".

I hunted the Indian Creek area for 4 or 5 years and seen plenty of good bucks. I was younger then, and didn't have much patience in hunting properly, so I never took any trophy bucks from the area. My father took 4 bucks from one stand location in 4 years and one buck in perticular was a "good un".

As far as the bucks goes, there is one set of genetics in the area that produces a nice low wide spread and the brow tines have the same length as the other tines. One 8 pt my father took had 8 inch brows and and the rest of the tines were the same (well within 1/2 inch), I been thinking about that area a lot lately and have been contemplating "trophy" hunting it myself just due to the style of the racks.

Well, I am rambling on here.

If one of you wants to contact me and chat some, give me a yell....PM me and I'll give you the toll free number at my business and you can give me a yell there.

Oldhat

OLDHAT

01-01-2003, 10:04 PM

Oh, I forgot to mention that the county I'll be showing you guys around in has roughly 70k acres of public hunting...need I say more?

Olddhat

OLDHAT

01-02-2003, 01:32 AM

Also, if you guys are serious about coming down, I'd suggest we get you at least one or 2 sets of topographical maps of the area. These maps can be purchased through the ODNR and are either $6 or $8 each. You'll probably need 3 in each set (6 total) for the entire area. The maps to get are the ones that show private and public boundary lines (i can tell you what quads to buy for the area). Private property is mixed in areas, for instance, the "wayne" is not continious you might have 10k acres of land and 8k is public and 2k is private, so the private vs public topo maps are a great help. IF your anything like me, I sometimes am driving down a dirt rd, see a ridge or point and say "man that looks like a good spot", so with the map you can take a look and see if it is private or public. I am sure once you guys see the area, you'll be over-whelmed with how big it is and want to check it all out...well, that will never happen and a topo can help you pin-point the ridges and saddles to help locate deer.

The area I am speaking of (Indian Creek) only has one area that is private, and the boundaries are pretty simply to see. (this private property is pretty much a finger hollow off the main hollow).

I can also give you a "crash-course" on hunting "big woods" and "hills". This will be my 19 th year of bowhunting Southern Ohio, so I can help you guys with any questions about hunting "big wooded hilly areas". There are a few basic things to "live by" when hunting the "hills", and if a guy can follow a few rules, more than likely he'll see plenty of deer.

Questions?

Oldhat

Spitfire

01-02-2003, 07:19 AM

I know right where your talking about. It would take roughly 2-1/2hrs. to get there from my house. Thats not to bad considering thats what it takes to get to Lake Hope. This place sounds like a litlle piece of heaven. Camping in a pine thicket way back off the road, deer out the wazoo. What more could a guy ask for?! I think we should try a Turkey hunt/ scouting trip combo for a weekend. That would be a blast!

Lets start talking dates and times so we can set this in stone. I'm getting all pumped just thinking about the scouting trip!

Just let me say thank you Oldhat, for inviting us down to your old stomping grounds. I know I appreciate it and I also know the other fella's do also.

Caribou Dreamer2

01-02-2003, 09:34 AM

Man that sounds awesome,The camp thing is on and the turkey hunt is on also would love to bag a bird.We are all heading down to zalaski again for a all day hunt the third week in jan.maybe we can meet with you instead of hunting zalaski, will see what the other guys want to do.As for the cabins that doesn't other me but might some of the other guys it seems they like the comforts of home.thanks again and like spitfire said lets post some date here so we can get this ball rolling.thanks again for inviting us down.

OLDHAT

01-02-2003, 07:50 PM

Well, let's work out a date?

Here is my schedule (you guys are gonna like this)

1.) I own a business and work there all the time
2.) I am an engineer and I work for a company all the time
3.) I have a 3 year old and am married (lots of time)
4.) Outside of bowhunting, the only other thing I do is GOLF, and come spring to Septemeber, I play a lot of tourny's over 3 states
on most weekends.

SO, here is is, let's set a date to scout or to Turkey hunt (I'll admit I am not much a turkey hunter, so don't expect much..there is a pot load of birds in that area though) and we'll go from there. If any of you want to meet me sometime, then we can head out. If you guys want to do it in a week or so that is fine also.
IF a few of you want to bring your self-climbers and hunt before the season is out, that is fine also (it's in zone C) but this time of year is hard hunting and I can't guareentee what we will see!

IF you a few of you want to "pre-scout"/check out the area, then let's do it before "warm weather" sets in. OR we can do a turkey hunt once season rolls in.

You guys let me know what type of schedule that would fit and we can go from there.

Oldhat (aka Jesse)

george tinkham

01-02-2003, 11:49 PM

hmmmmm

Aimrite

01-03-2003, 12:59 AM

Hey guys I was wondering if I could possibly get in on your Indian creek deer camp. I hunted the Wayne south of Nelsonville this year so I am familiar with type terrain and everything Old Hat described about the Wayne is on the money.
Couple Questions
Are you guys tent camping in the Wayne? I have camper I pull and much prefer to use it. If I can get it into area Old Hat made it sound pretty rough. I have done backcountry Elk hunting and I get roughing it out of my system fast.
When and how many days?
Thanks
Aim

OLDHAT

01-03-2003, 02:22 AM

Aim,

Sure, your invited, actually everyone from here (OHIOSPORTSMAN.COM) is welcome to come.

Yeah, you can get a camper in there. The dirt Rd isn't too bad on the way in.

The place where the pines for camping under (I prefer to pitch a tent under pines, gives good protection from the elements) is located where the dirt rd ends that goes up the hollow, so a camper wouldn't make it to the pines, but right up to the creek that borders the pines, so you'd be right there. (the ODNR took out the bridge back about 10 years ago that allowed access further up into the hollow, the dirt rd continues up the hollow to "the left" and leads to an old barn about 1/2 mile up. The hollow to the right (the hollow "y's" at the pines) has an old rail bed where the DT & I railroad used to come through. In that hollow if a you want to walk another mile, you'll come to the old railroad tunnel. Only good thing up in there around the caved in entrance to the tunnel is copper heads!

Like you, I'd rather sleep in a camper but my sister sold hers, so either I will buy one, or pitch my tent.

This area can hold plenty of bow hunters for a few days. Some of us will have to get in our vehicles and drive back down the hollow to spread ourselves out a bit, but there is plenty of room! Wouldn't be any problem getting 20-30 guys in there hunting with bows and not bother each other. Sure, some places you'd be within a few 100 yards of each other, but that's not too much of a problem while bowhunting if 2 guys work together in their set-up and know what they are doing not to spook deer.

Once a few fellas decide to "make it a camp", we can switch areas and move up on the dirt rd/ridge at the back of the hollow if we decide to, whomever scouts it out with me can look at the entire area and access and we can decide the best place to camp. It would be easy walking to hunt if some prefer. The ridge line runs for about 2 miles or so, and you could "pick a spot" off the road to walk down a point and hunt. THe gun hunters have already established nice little pull off spots that they camp at that could be used up there on the ridges.

I will say that the closest store or gas station is probably 5-10 miles away, and the closest "fast-food" place is atleast 30 minutes, so you better "pack a lunch".

I feel sorry for the deer though, get at least 10 guys and we'll have to establish a nice tree to hang them in! I know I'd at least take 2 doe over a 2-3 day hunting period, that is if she is facing back down towards the camp when the shot presented itself..heheheeh

The area is not that "rough", but it might be to some, I was raised in the area and started hunting when I was 12, so maybe I am used to it, some of you might think it is. It's hilly though, but nice ridges and points covered in Oaks. the bottoms are all in Walnut trees and White Pine that the ODNR planted.

Back on the main ridge, I know of a spot where 2 natural springs come out of the hill, the deer have it wallowed down and muddy 12 months outta the year, lotta doe and small buck action in there, so you doe hunters could hit that spot hard if you want.

Like I said, it's a nice area to hunt, and some of you guys from The Northern and Central Part of the State probably never had a chance to head down and hunt much on the wayne, this would be a good chance for you guys to "check it out". I look at it kinda like this, I have always wanted to catch some of those "small jaws " on lake Erie, but to take a boat and drive up there, I wouldn't even know where to start, I am sure some of you feel the same way about hunting in Southern Ohio, but if you have a fella to "point you in the right direction", it isn't so bad.

OLDHAT

Caribou Dreamer2

01-03-2003, 08:19 AM

Getting BETTER by the min.

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 08:39 AM

No doubt!! You better quit Oldhat, you have me thinking about buying my third tag and coming down for a late season hunt. It's very tempting!!

Aimrite

01-03-2003, 08:56 AM

Old Hat If I do come down for a few days for camp, I got plenty of room in my camper. It will probably sleep 3 vey comfotably each having there own bed.Its Jayco 23B Hybrid with slide out. I have complete setup with Awning, outdoor carpeting,chairs,cooking table, Colman stove for outside cooking ,TVVCR,Microwave ect... I do snore though.LOL.

I never really set it all up because its just me but with little help could be darn comfortable deer camp.
Its leagal to camp in wayne right?
Aim

Caribou Dreamer2

01-03-2003, 09:01 AM

Hay aimrite that not camping do you have those light thingys that hang around your awning too.Man i love those things you should see my tent when i put them lights all round it also makes it easy to find in the dark after one eye is shut.LOLOLOLOLOLOLO:D

Hay spiter did you get that new tent in yet

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 09:42 AM

Yea the tent has been here and so has the new 3-burner stove. That stove is in mint condition. I havent set the tent up yet but will soon to see how it looks maybe after all this snow melts off or might just wait and take it for a late season bowhunt in the Pine thicket where Oldhat is talking. That would be fun.

Hey Aimrite, dont let Caribou mess with ya. He just likes the pink lights hanging around his tent. LOL!!

Caribou Dreamer2

01-03-2003, 09:51 AM

GOOD ONE:D

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 09:58 AM

I thought you would like that. One of these times I am going to bring some to camp just for you. I know you would get a kick out of that.

Caribou Dreamer2

01-03-2003, 10:04 AM

I reeallllly like the purple grapes those are my favorite looks good and yummy tooo.I will get you the pumpkins for you tent next year, that way i can tell josh he is sleeping with the pumpkins :D

rjolenic

01-03-2003, 10:07 AM

I have hunted the Waterloo Wildlife Area quite a bit with limited success. The past few years I would make the trip from Lake Hope to Waterloo and I would go way back through the pines! We are right near private land where Athens, Vinton and Hocking counties come together.

rjo

Caribou Dreamer2

01-03-2003, 10:12 AM

Dont understand why a man would stay at lake hope and drive to waterloo to hunt ,heck man there is some good honey holes right next to you five mins from the cabins.Well i guess we will just have to help a fellow bowhunter out here.What do you guys think is it worth our time.any seconds or thirds her it take three votes

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 10:14 AM

Whats going on ithoyt's? Havent talked to you in awhile!

Hey C.D., you can keep those pumpkins for no-noodle. The sight of grapes and pumpkins on your tent would be hilarious. I am sure Jonathan could come up with a song for that one. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 10:15 AM

Worth our time to do what?

Q2XL

01-03-2003, 10:20 AM

why does it always come back to me.i have been mindin my own business and now here we go again.so whats wrong with lights hangin on the tent atleast when had too many can find my way back:D

Q2XL

01-03-2003, 10:23 AM

imstill undecided about indian creek there C D

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 10:35 AM

Undecided?
Atleast you didnt forget your name, thats a plus! LOL!!!
I am always up to trying new spots for deer especially when you have the inside track that Oldhat is giving us. It's like having your own personal guide. As long as he points us in the right direction you cant beat it.

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 10:38 AM

There is nothing wrong with lights. It is just funny because in our earlier camps C.D. would always make fun of those lights people hung around their camper.

Q2XL

01-03-2003, 11:57 AM

well then looks like we need to get some lights for deer camp next year then,but they aint goin on my end of the tent.we can put them on C D end of the tent

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 12:04 PM

We have to get lights for both ends so it doesnt look uneven. I'll get Jonathan to start thinking of a song for your lighted tent. I'm sure he could think of a good one. Pumpkins at one end and grapes at the other. We might even be able to get a red light for inside.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Aimrite

01-03-2003, 12:08 PM

You guys going to tent then them you are braver than I, If its RAIN,WINDY,COLD typical holloween weather i hope your prepared. I get my backcountry fix in CO and enough for me.

Q2XL

01-03-2003, 12:23 PM

i dont care if it looks uneven or not aint no lights goin on my end of the tent.and there aint gonna be no red lights in the tent.so hows jonathan been aint heard much out of him latley

Spitfire

01-03-2003, 12:45 PM

Oh come on, you atleast have the red light on in your tent. I think the grapes and pumpkins would look cute. Some pink elephants would look good around the door.
Jonathan has been good, trying to stay out of trouble. He's not working right now so he has alot of time on his hands.

rjolenic

01-03-2003, 12:57 PM

Hey guys, it's hunting camp, not Christmas camp! Forget the light and let talk deer camp. W.T.M.!!!!????????????

rjo

Q2XL

01-03-2003, 01:04 PM

i agree there ITHOYTS no more talk about the lights and definatley no pink elephants

rjolenic

01-03-2003, 01:08 PM

I made it out this morning and saw a nice buck right underneath HOYTME's stand. Unfortunatley, I was walking to the stand and wasn't in it and he spooked ! My fault, I didn't get there until shooting light because I overslept. DANG!!!!!!!

rjo

Caribou Dreamer2

01-04-2003, 12:57 AM

BUMMMMMER should of not stayed up so late

Q2XL

01-04-2003, 01:13 AM

thats what you get for stayin up so late.sorry to here that there ITHOYTS:D

Spitfire

01-04-2003, 07:57 AM

Man that sucks!! Its happened to all of us more than we would like to admit I think.

rjolenic

01-04-2003, 10:05 AM

I almost turned around and walk back to the truck! I was not happy, but I did stay and hunt anyways. As a matter of fact I took a nice nap! :rolleyes:

Q2XL

01-04-2003, 10:11 AM

sorry to here that ITHOYTS.workin late on the arrows kept you from gettin up early huh.you and HOYTME goin out to hunt any this weekend.if so good luck.

Hoytme2

01-04-2003, 11:05 AM

Went out to see if I could find that big boy that ray spooked yesterday but no luck. There were a lot of tracks all over my stand but they all must of been there last night and we had more important things to do. Go BUCKS! Going out this afternoon at my moms again to try our luck at using our statewide tags before the season is over.

george tinkham

01-04-2003, 11:10 AM

Old Hac.I'm sure there is a cave or to in your area.That would be a nice place for a crib and it could be hunted from too. Got a couple caves.Copperheads don,t worry me.One bit me one time and I bit its head off.What you think aimrite?caveman

Caribou Dreamer2

01-04-2003, 01:16 PM

No cave in my area,But have sen a few in southern ohio in vinton county were we hunt,As for those copperheads you can have them to yourelf not for me.

OLDHAT

01-04-2003, 09:52 PM

Heading out in te morning, gotta doe tag to fill, and another if I wanna go buy it when I check the 1st one in. Gonna hang a game cam and tease all you fellas with all the pics.

Oldhat...gonna go hunting,havn't been since I took my buck back in mid-November,,,,hehhehe "second wind"

Oldhat

You know George, about that copperhead you bit the head off of, rumor is that you'd do something else to a snake if someone would hold it's head long enough for you!

george tinkham

01-06-2003, 12:18 AM

"bamboo viper" deer camp on the wayne,athens area.

Spitfire

01-06-2003, 09:07 AM

There has to be a cave up there amongst all those swamp rats! I just cant believe it.

Caribou Dreamer2

01-06-2003, 10:09 AM

Ahhh i would almost bet there are some old black caves up here somewhere all you have to do is run the bars and you will find them there cave to crawl into. Heck i would bet they might have a few copperheads in them there caves to that would love to bite your head off.Hay spitfire you have any caves in your area????:D

Spitfire

01-06-2003, 12:16 PM

Yea, there is a bunch around honda!

Spitfire

01-06-2003, 05:34 PM

Hey Oldhat, whats the Turkey situation down around Indian Creek? Any good spots to hunt those big birds?

rjolenic

01-06-2003, 06:55 PM

If Indian Creek is anywhere near the Waterloo area, there is some fantastic bird hunting down there. What's up SPITFIRE?

rjo

Spitfire

01-06-2003, 07:52 PM

Not much here man! Getting all geared up about this Turkey Camp. This "might" end up being better than Deer Camp. I always liked the spring time when everything is coming back to life. It will almost be like camping in the early fall, cant wait!

rjolenic

01-06-2003, 08:16 PM

I would love to say that I will definately be there, but with work in the Spring, I can't comitt to anything! I will try like wildfire to be there .

rjo

OLDHAT

01-06-2003, 08:52 PM

Lots of Birds there.

I was in there early season last year (before Turkey Season) at one of the "honey holes" (is 2 big clearcuts with about 150 yards of big timber (red oaks, White oaks, and Persimmons) right smack dab in the middle of the x-cuts. (you talk about a place to take a buck)..anyway, my buddy and I had the ol compass out figuring out what wind directions a guy could hunt this spot, and we had a Tom start gobbling on the next ridge at us talking. So, we worked back down into the hollow, kept on talkiing, and he kept blairing his head off. Anyway, I started scratching and we got him to about 80-100 yards, I then started barking like a dog, and he kept on coming....stupid bird!

Like I said other than checking this one particular spot out early last year for deer hunting, I have been out of the area for a few years. When I used to "hunt it heavy" back in the late 80's/early 90's, I'd see as high 60 birds at a time (back in the 80's, that was something, guys used to give me hell and accuse me of lieing when I said I seen that many birds). Today, I'd say there is a lot more birds than "back then".

Would be a good place to hunt though, there are patches of "White pines" here and there, and during all of my bowhunting ventures back then, any patch (pines) you would walk through in the morning had plenty of turkey roosting in them, used to scare the "beejezez" outta me trying to slip in before daylight to bowhunt and those birds would be in there and I'd spook them off the roost. SO if you like finding them on the roost in the morning, I'd say it would be perfect to call them off roost. And for the guys that like to "run and gun", there are plenty of dirt roads to cruise on and stop and check for a bird.

Like I said, I ain't much of a Turkey hunter (am usually golfing then or catching those big female bass around Turkey season), but I can do some clucking and purring if you guys wanna try it out. (and do some deer scouting).

Jesse

Spitfire

01-07-2003, 08:24 AM

>>>>>>ATTENTION ALL DEER CAMP BOYS<<<<<<

WE ARE HAVING TURKEY CAMP AT INDIAN CREEK THIS YEAR.
SOUND OFF IF YOUR IN FOR THE ADVENTURE OF A LIFE TIME!!!

Spitfire

01-07-2003, 08:29 AM

Consider us there Oldhat! The season opens April 28 and ends May 25. How does the first weekend of May sound? That would be the 2nd, 3rd & 4th.

rjolenic

01-07-2003, 12:40 PM

Will I be allow to use a Ping Eye 2 sand wedge and a titleist pro V1 to hunt those birds down there, or is it all shotgun or bow??

rjo

Spitfire

01-07-2003, 01:38 PM

You can hunt them with whatever you want as long as it is legal. I dont remember reading anything about not useing golf clubs so I guess your safe.

rjolenic

01-07-2003, 05:31 PM

Usually the Spring gears up the golf season for me and my time is spent doing that. Maybe I can talk Brian into coming down for a couple days if the work schedules let us. Earlier post was a little golf humor for ya'll !

rjo

Spitfire

01-07-2003, 06:26 PM

Hey, if you guys find the time we would love to have you join us. It could be a little taste of the Deer Camp we will all be enjoying in a few months.

rjolenic

01-08-2003, 08:38 PM

Hey OLDHAT,

Kinda still sitting here on the edge of my seat thinking I know within at least a quarter mile where it is that you're talking about. I think I've unknowingly been on that property ... Here's me walking through the woods: "whooop, I'm on private land, better get back over here. " Do ya hear me on this!?

FORE,

rjo

OLDHAT

01-09-2003, 01:25 AM

Rjolenic...

hhehehe, nope not the same property unless your around Waverly Ohio...hehehheh...IF it is, then I'll tell you this.................................STAY THE HELL OUTTA MY HONEY HOLE YOU NO GOOD 4NUTTIN' SCAB..there I feel better now (only joking).

SO, the next time you hit it "OB", then you better leave it on that private property (only if it is a PRO V 1...you can come get the rest of those "rocks").

HEHEHHEE OLDHAT

Spitfire

01-09-2003, 07:59 AM

4NUTTIN' SCAB?
What the, Who the, AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! WHere did that come from, I have never heard that one before. That is to funny!!!!!!

Caribou Dreamer2

01-09-2003, 09:28 AM

Whats going on over here or should i even ask

Q2XL

01-09-2003, 09:47 AM

doesnt sound too good whatever it is

Spitfire

01-09-2003, 11:30 AM

I don't know what's going on ya 4nuttin' scab!!
YEEEEEE' HAAAAAA, that is stinkin funny!!!!

Q2XL

01-09-2003, 11:54 AM

you alright today SPITFIRE youre worryin me

Spitfire

01-09-2003, 12:21 PM

Come on, you can't tell me that isn't funny. I think it is hilarious!

Caribou Dreamer2

01-09-2003, 01:16 PM

Ahh its funny alright.

Spitfire

01-09-2003, 07:25 PM

So who is going to Tukey Camp this year? Sound off like ya got a pair!! The dates are May 2nd, 3rd & 4th if that is ok with everyone.

OLDHAT

01-09-2003, 08:06 PM

Spit:

"GOOD 4 NUTTIN' SCAB" is the proper terminology.

My bud and I were hunting private property one day, I had an idiot that jumped out of the back of a moving pickup truck, ran up the hill, and climbed up a maple with his crossbow. Anyway, after he got settled in, he finally noticed me sitting on my stand about 60 yards away. He knew he was in trouble because it was private property. So I wait til last shooting time, get out of the stand, and walk down to the road to confront him about hunting on private property.

Well, he tells me "this is public -property" and anyone can hunt it and that he did notice all the trees going down the road that were "posted" "NO HUNTING"...anyway, my buddy gets all fired up about it (the one hunting with me on down the road) and starts calling them "Good for nothing SCABS" (as in crossing a picket line)...I thought it was funny also, so it kinda stuck. SO the "Slobs" and the "Scabs" are basically the same thing.

So, what it was all about, it that there was a "thumper buck" coming off this hillside every evening, I was onto him, and so was every tom dick and harry that hunted in the entire county. But it was private property and me and my buddy were the only ones allowed on the this particular piece of dirt. So, they were "sneaking in like SCABS" on that private property trying to get that buck.

Oh, there is a lot more to the story and it would amaze you some of the stuff this one "scab" done...but it takes some time to tell it, and it would be best be saved for a camp fire one night with a Killians in my hand.

OLDHAT

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW: A "SCAB" is one whom crosses a picket line to work (replacement worker) when a union is on strike.

rjolenic

01-09-2003, 08:21 PM

I aint no good fur nothun scab! I made an honest mistake! Down there at Waterloo, sometimes it's tought to make heads or tail of State land vs private land. I think the guy who paints the Blaze yellow on the trees is always drunk. :eek:

Anyways, this story about the scab sounds to be a good one. Can you really see the road from your magical spot? Don't get me wrong, I can see the road from where I hunt, because I hunt flat NW ohio. It's just seemed like you were hunting deep in the hills of SE Ohio. Was there a lock on set in this maple? Or did he just find a cozy limb to sit on ? :mad:

rjo

OLDHAT

01-09-2003, 09:09 PM

This one spot, over looks a field and has a dirt road running up the hollow. Early season, the bucks head up the bank and bed on the "first flat" down from the ridge. They hit the field hard every night, and just sleep right above it on the hill. I guess in this spot I am 300-400 yards off the road, but straight up a hill.

Yes, this guy just climbed a maple (a little one at that) it was swaying back and forth..kinda funny actually, he just sat on a limb for 2.5 hours!

Ohhhhhhh this same spot, well the leaves had fallen early that year (year we had the drought...1996?). Well, Wayne national forest let the "rainbow people" (bunch of left over hippies from the 60's....hippie wanna be's) camp and have their annual get together in this area. Well, there was a nice little watering hole up the road a bit and that's where the females bathed at. Well Old Oldhat here was sitting on the stand, heard lots of females talking walking down this dirt road below me, so I got my bino's out...well there wasn't any cars, but the "HEADLIGHTS WERE ON BRIGHTS"...not a one of them had a shirt on...they were walking down that old dirt road topless! I guess there was 15-20 of them ladies....one of my more enjoyable hunts, but my bino's kept fogging up on me...heheheheheh!

IF you fellas havn't hunted to much in "big woods" like there is on the "wayne", then you probably havn't figured out the "fronts"....sure, there are places I go in deep (1/2 mile to 1 mile), but, most of your deer are on "fronts" that over look fields...especially the doe's...and if you "play your cards" right and hunt these "doe" fronts, when sniffing time comes around, those bucks will be there....you don't have to go deep to get them.

Like a buck I took after gun season...I seen him (and about 20 more deer) on a front that over-looked the dead end of this same dirt road. ANyway, I was out scouting in gun season, no gun, just scouting for after gun season....well I figured I had seen enough and decided to cut off the ridge and go back down to the road. Well, right when I got out on the "point" of that ridge that overlooked the road, on the 1st flat down below me, I seen movement, I sat there and watched 17-20 deer holed up in a lil' thick spot. Well, right below them and maybe 300 yards was at least 5 automobiles and 10 or so guys taking a break during gun season...they were acting all crazy and everything (the guys) the deer were right above them. anyway, I turned around and headed the other way to not spook the deer, came back the next day and hung a stand (on a sunday), killed a nice 8pt that scored 120 the first thing Monday morning (gun hunting was out..took him with the bow).

Well, that's about it for now....you guys ever see anything crazy from the stand like the "RAINBOW GALS" that I seen?

OLDHAT

Caribou Dreamer2

01-10-2003, 01:06 AM

No but i sure wish i did because the old hound dog would of been barking whhhaaaaaaooooooooffffffff whoooofffff baby over here check out this nature boy SWING, SMACK AH YEA BABY.:p

OLDHAT

01-10-2003, 03:48 AM

Caribou:

You saying you would have been saying:

"WHO'S YOUR DADDY?"

Spitfire

01-10-2003, 05:42 AM

SWING, SMACK AH YEA BABY? What the Moth-R!!!!!!!!! Nature boy? This is scary i,m not touching this. Except to say what a beautiful sight that must have been.

Caribou Dreamer2

01-10-2003, 09:24 AM

I'm telling you 40 pairs of head lights on at one time man that would be heaven

Spitfire

01-10-2003, 11:48 AM

It wouldn't be to much fun if you were swingin from your safety harness and you couldn't get out.

Caribou Dreamer2

01-10-2003, 02:05 PM

Heck if i saw that many pairs heading in my direction i would not have to worry about getting stuck in my safety harness becausei would "pole" vault from that tree

Spitfire

01-10-2003, 02:21 PM

Pole vault huh? Your dreamin again, time to wake up!

Caribou Dreamer2

01-10-2003, 05:16 PM

OOO yea baby i 'm talking pooole vaulting.

Spitfire

01-10-2003, 05:21 PM

Hey, what are you doing home? shouldn't you be at work?

OLDHAT

01-10-2003, 08:21 PM

From the looks/sounds of his post Spitfire, I think it is safe to say that CD called in sick and is registering for "one of those sites"..wink wink.

Oldhat

Caribou Dreamer2

01-10-2003, 09:03 PM

Just could not see my self going in tonight needed a three day weekend he hehehe.

george tinkham

01-10-2003, 10:58 PM

poor poor aimrite got horse laughed.

Spitfire

01-31-2003, 08:12 AM

Hey Oldhat!!!!! How would you feel about showing a few guys aroud Indian Creek for a Spring Turkey hunt. I was looking at the first or second weekend of April. If you would be available another time that would be fine to, just let me know.

rjolenic

01-31-2003, 10:38 PM

OK, what Waterloo are we talking about again???? The one near Lake Hope off of Kings Hollow is the one I know.

rjo

Spitfire

02-01-2003, 09:18 AM

Beat's me Ray!!!!

OLDHAT

02-05-2003, 01:11 AM

Hehehee....spitter, it's the Waterloo in my area.....down further south in the State. you know how rt 93 runs close to Zaleski....well, I was raised on Rt 93..but about 50miles south on Rt 93. The area I am talking about is 15-20 minutes South of Jackson Ohio on rt 93.

Oh, call me tonight around 8:30 spitter..hey, it's already 12...I knew you wouldn't call...heheehehhehe!

Geeesh, get a dog (prefer a beagle if ya got one) and get a few guys together and make the drive down to the Wayne in the next week or so (and on a weekend day) and we can get the bunnies warmed up and stretched out for delivering all those eggs and thump the Indian creek area.

Geesh, jsut took a drink of cofee I made her at work....I forgot I made it yesterday!...yuck !

Anyway spitter here is my deal again.......I own a business and run it all day ( printing and mailing services company..you know that junk mail you get..well I'd say some of it came from me...I send it out by the 10's of thousands of pieces every day of the week for my customers and clients). In the evenings, I am over the Maintenance Department for a company called Scitex, from Electrical to mechanical to sleeping, I cover it all and can be called here by using the number I gave ya from 8- 12 (well that's typically my "prime time set at my desk and surf/sleep/read/whatever time" and you can call me then...don't worry about someone answering it, it's my own personal line here at work..and if I don't answer, leave a message, because chances are I was snoozing and didn't feel like answering it! I especially won't answer it when it rings "funny"...I can tell from the ring if it's someone calling me because something on some production line somewhere is broke and I need to go fix it..some times I can't tell the difference in the rings (if you havn't noticed, I am blowing smoke up your a$$ about the different rings)...so I don't even bother answering it..kinda a "feeling of the moment type decision which usually gets me saying "ah screwum', I ain't answering it"....really a cheesy job, it's not the typical maintenance job most think of, mostly "clean room" enviroments (no dust in the area (15,000 square ft) larger than 1.5 microns) and some "rocket science" type applications. Used to be in Engineering, but lost my "taste for it"..started up my own company 3 years back, took this job (at same company) and manange to ramble on on the Ohio Sportsman site due to pure boredom....wait, you mean to tell me you guys do this at home?..hehehhe..you guys need to get a life!

Anyway, give me a buzz, I called you but your too cheap to get an answering machine..your turn now..hehhheehe !

TAG YOUR IT!

Oldhat

Spitfire

02-05-2003, 07:04 AM

I have an answering machine, it's just not hooked up. I will call you around 8:30 tonight, I just put a post-it note on my moniter for a reminder.

I think I know where your at, but will have the trusty map and Atlas with me. Can't wait to make the trip down!!

Dear_Hunter

02-05-2003, 09:04 AM

Im already for Turkey season I bought me a 870 12ga super mag with a Turkey Choke will be shooting 3 1/2 mags out of it. the shot gun is all flat black. It came with a 28" field barrel with a modified choke. Hoping to reach out and take one. :p

Caribou Dreamer2

02-06-2003, 12:28 AM

Hmmmm Sounds like you are ready to go there dear_hunter go get'em
Are you sure you can handle that 31/2 mag.sure putsa wallup onthat old back,If you need any help handling that beats give old caribou a shout.

Dear_Hunter

02-06-2003, 07:17 AM

CD2

Ok if I need Help I will give you a call. This gun can shoot 2 3/4 3 3 1/2 I think the 2 3/4 high brass will be good enough for Turkey.:)

Caribou Dreamer2

02-06-2003, 08:40 AM

Shoot man if you have a gun that will shoot 31/2 mag by all mean shoot them i would.

Dear_Hunter

02-06-2003, 09:41 AM

I need to find out how far the 3 1/2 will stay in a tight pattern out of a 28" barrel with a X-Full choke.:)

Spitfire

02-07-2003, 09:30 AM

Hey OLDHAT, I will call. I keep forgetting!! I even put a post=it note on the puker screen! It might of helped if I had been sitting here looking at it though so I could have been reminded.

Caribou Dreamer2

02-07-2003, 10:00 AM

Ahh and you talked about my memory you know thats the second thing that goes when you get old :D

Spitfire

02-07-2003, 10:02 AM

You know what the good part is? Mine only happens every once in awhile, yours is all the time.

Caribou Dreamer2

02-07-2003, 10:03 AM

You got me there but it will come with due time give it alittle time your just getting the start of it.

Spitfire

02-07-2003, 10:06 AM

EG - :D

Caribou Dreamer2

02-07-2003, 10:08 AM

EG: "what the "

Dear_Hunter

02-07-2003, 10:08 AM

Hey are you guys talking about those brain farts or the real old age thing. On me it was my hair to go first.:D

Caribou Dreamer2

02-07-2003, 10:10 AM

Are you sure it was just the hair first,mine was eye sight then memory ,i hope you know what is not next:p

Spitfire

02-07-2003, 10:15 AM

EG - Evil Grin!

Dear_Hunter

02-07-2003, 10:16 AM

Spitfire

You don't mean, Oh no im not ready for that to happen. Dang I think your right it was my eyes first then my hair. :)

Dear_Hunter

02-07-2003, 10:19 AM

almost forgot my teeth :D

Caribou Dreamer2

02-07-2003, 10:20 AM

Who cares aboutt he hair just less time you have to go get it cut if i falls out but if you loose the other you are screwed or the other way around your not getting screwed;)

Caribou Dreamer2

02-07-2003, 10:20 AM

Still have all my teeth thats a good thing

Dear_Hunter

02-07-2003, 10:24 AM

hehehehehehehe your right CD :D

rjolenic

02-07-2003, 07:23 PM

OK Guys back to the history of Ohio, here's an article I found online abot the battle for Toledo. Interesting stuff really.

The most bizarre war in American history was the comic opera Toledo War of 1835 fought between Ohio and Michigan. It involved a poorly drawn boundary line, a 19 year old “boy” Governor, and armies that could not fight because they got lost in the swamps.

The genesis of this war was in the Northwest Ordinance of 1787. This ordinance set the southern boundary of Michigan territory at the line drawn from the southern tip of Lake Michigan due east to where it meets Lake Erie. One problem: The south tip of Lake Michigan was determined to be further north than where it is actually located. This made the boundary line too far north. A later survey in 1818 ordered by the territorial governor of Michigan established the true boundary but it was too late. Ohio, claimed the original line which was drawn in error, giving Ohio the mouth of the Maumee River and the area that is now the city of Toledo. The gap between these two boundaries came to be known as the “Toledo Strip.”

For the next 15 years this issue festered quietly. In 1833 when Michigan applied for statehood, the dispute over the Toledo strip came to the surface again. To try to resolve this conflict, Michigan’s territorial government tried to negotiate with Ohio Governor Robert Lucas in 1835. Lucas rejected any compromise by setting up a county government in the disputed area of the Toledo Strip. The young hotheaded territorial governor of Michigan, Stephens T. Mason, who was appointed as governor at the age of only 19 by President Andrew Jackson, angrily responded by sending the Michigan militia south to claim the Toledo Strip.

For awhile it looked as if there would be a major battle between the Ohio and Michigan militias in April, 1835. Fortunately bloodshed was avoided because the two armies got lost for a week in the swamps near Perrysburg, Ohio and were unable to find each other. In fact, the only blood shed in this war was when the Michigan militia arrested the family of Major Benjamin Franklin Stickney of the Ohio militia. Major Stickney was subjected to the humiliation of being tied to his horse for a trip to a Michigan jail. Enraged, Major Stickney’s son, named Two (not to be confused with his older brother named One) lunged at a Michigan sheriff and stabbed him in the thigh, making Sheriff Joseph Wood the only casualty of the Toledo War.

The dispute between Ohio and Michigan was resolved the following year when Congress, as a condition for Michigan statehood made that territory give up its claim to the Toledo Strip. As compensation for its loss of Toledo, Congress awarded Michigan the Upper Peninsula. At the time, Michigan was enraged by this outcome and Ohio was considered the winner since it was given Toledo. However, nowadays Michigan considers itself the winner of that War since they got the Upper Peninsula while Ohio ended up with Toledo.

OLDHAT

02-07-2003, 10:28 PM

hehehehe "The Great Cabbage War".

Hey Sputfire:

(sputfire= when a "back fire" and a "sputter" are permitted to bread)...hey, come on now it's better than being called a butt plug!

Man, you said something to the tune of:

"I'll call you later tonight around 8:00, I'll leave a post-it note on my "monitor lizard" to remind me".

Well, I've watched a whole mess of 8's come and go... both kind, the AM's and the PM's and I've even cull'd a few, did you loose your lizard?

Hey Rjolenic:

Your right man, I sure do have a way with words.

Oldhat

Spitfire

02-08-2003, 07:53 AM

Yea, I lost my lizard! A few years back!! LOL!!!
I'll call ya be patient, I took the wife out last night for a late supper and a movie. I don't want to get into detail over this but she has been dealing with a few problems lately and I wanted her to forget about it for awhile.
I will call ya though!!!!!

rjolenic

02-10-2003, 08:31 PM

Ya see, sometimes we just have to be BOYS and have fun with a situation, when the situatini presents itself. Nice! ! ! ! ! !

rjo

Nobody likes the info on the BATTLE FOR TOLEDO!???? WHAT THE MOTHE*!!!?????

OLDHAT

02-11-2003, 09:18 PM

rjolenic:

Sure, I liked the post on the "Battle for Toledo", but you gotta figure, it's Toledo. Now if it would haver been fighting for "podunk" it would have gained a lot more responses. Here is my figuring: Toledo is a "turd", sure, you can paint it and dress it up real nice and even go as far as to putting a "tux" on it, but no matter how good "Toledo" looks, it will always be a TURD!

heheheheheh

As Paul Harvey used to say:

"And now for the rest of the story":

That little battle for Toledo has a funnier side. I'll have to find the info, but that is what I referenced in my last post as the "Cabbage war"..... If I remember correctly, seems that the locals of the time kind of "had it out" themselves. They did not use weapons, but instead hurled cabbages at each other over the border and who should get Toledo".

Let me do some snooping on the cabbage hurling. Just think, you could have been one of them Wolverines!..count yourself lucky buddy!

Oldhat