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Thunderflight
08-29-2009, 03:28 AM
Oh man what to do, what to do.....

When I was in Ohio I pre-smoked and vacume sealed my clothes just incase this trip worked out.

I've been chatting on facebook with my friends brother in law. He asked if I had any scent lok or odor reducing garments and if not I should get some.

Well I commented about smoking up my clothes and he mentioned that he's always wanted to try this, but with only six days to hunt he didn't want to risk it.

So what do I do? Wash my clothes and play the wind or keep em smoked and still play the wind?

I'm the guest and dont' want to come across as the butt head who smelled like an ash tray. I'd be willing to bet that if we didnt' see an elk the whole week I'd be the blame for it too. Of course I honestly believe in this system and if we didn't see an elk, because of odor, I doubt it would have been because of me.

So what would you all do?




geezer II
08-29-2009, 06:45 AM
Send the guy a scent smoker and let he test it afore ya hunt on some of his scouting missions - :) - dang :whistle: :mischeif:

Deehntr56
08-29-2009, 07:42 AM
Send the guy a scent smoker and let he test it afore ya hunt on some of his scouting missions - :) - dang :whistle: :mischeif:

That's the ticket!:biggrin:

Keep the ones that are "smoked" for other hunts, buy a new set for the Elk Hunt....good reason to get some new camo, especially for Hunting in the Western States.:biggrin:

jackalope
08-29-2009, 03:45 PM
Oh man what to do, what to do.....

When I was in Ohio I pre-smoked and vacume sealed my clothes just incase this trip worked out.

I've been chatting on facebook with my friends brother in law. He asked if I had any scent lok or odor reducing garments and if not I should get some.

Well I commented about smoking up my clothes and he mentioned that he's always wanted to try this, but with only six days to hunt he didn't want to risk it.

So what do I do? Wash my clothes and play the wind or keep em smoked and still play the wind?

I'm the guest and dont' want to come across as the butt head who smelled like an ash tray. I'd be willing to bet that if we didnt' see an elk the whole week I'd be the blame for it too. Of course I honestly believe in this system and if we didn't see an elk, because of odor, I doubt it would have been because of me.

So what would you all do?


I'll take the bait....... :D

This is a moot point TF.. If you get there are see it spooking ELK just do this

According to scent lok all you have to do is take those smoky scent lok garments to town and put them in the drier... When the cycle is over they will not have a hint of smoke to them, and will be reactivated and absorbing odors...

Thunderflight
08-30-2009, 04:02 AM
I didn't smoke my scent lok clothes.

XX78
08-30-2009, 10:08 AM
Maybe this will help,

I have been using smoke for 2 years. Within those years I have washed my clothes several times. In all those times, I never completely got rid of the smoke smell in my clothes, so it may be a waste of time washing yours only to have them smell still. I think the bonding strength of smoke molecules is stronger than the detergents ability to dissociate those bonds.

That was with using scent away detergent for HE washers. Clothes were line dried and while removing the clothes from the washer (wet), I could still smell smoke. It was definitely less intense, but it was immediately noticeable.

Perhaps mixing Baking Soda in with the load would help.

Deehntr56
08-30-2009, 10:56 AM
TF..Hunting out West has a "different" flavor of camo needs you may want to look at.

Even though I have used my same camo there(sometimes, depending on the hunt) that I use here, close up hunting may require you to blend in with the new surroundings out West.

Here are some ideas...and again, a great time and reason to buy some new camo!!:biggrin:

One of my favorites is Advatage MAX 4HD. I like to go for as much concealment as possible and with MAX-4 being so widely accepted, I can all the accessories I need and even have some selection in thing like gloves and facemasks.

That being said, I really like the Cabela's Seculsion Open Country pattern and Seclusion 3-D seems to fit in really well too. I have yet to see MAX-1 camo but the ads look nice. Mossy Oak's Brush camo looks really good.

Cabela's Konifer pattern is hands down the best pattern I've seen yet for hunting in the pines. Might have to get me some of that!

Usually what I look for in a pattern is not so much the camo itself, but the shadowing effect. I look for what I think will blend in best with the background. Take a look at a picture of a grassy, open field. You'll see a lot of blades of grass. Now take them out of the picture and what do you see? I hunt a green alfafa field for early season geese. Until a short while ago, I used all types of camo to find a way to blend in.

another option is..... Predator camo. It works well in the open grass areas as well as river bottoms. It is not a picture perfect camo like the major brands but I feel it works better than the others. It really breaks up your outline.

If it's hunting in a lot of hardwoods, another option is Mossy Oak Hardwoods since the hardwoos out there seem to be a little on the dark side and should have a good blend into the type fo hardwoods your hunting in.

One other important factor is "quiet' clothing. It becomes a very important factor, the closer your hunting to your quarry. In bowhunting it's usually a must.

Lots to think about, but whatever you choose, the hunt will be a great memory!!!

Thunderflight
08-30-2009, 01:08 PM
another option is..... Predator camo. It works well in the open grass areas as well as river bottoms. It is not a picture perfect camo like the major brands but I feel it works better than the others. It really breaks up your outline.


I'll be wearing predator fall brown and deception brown. I'll also probably be using my USMC digital camo bottoms too, but I've got a set of predator fall brown pants too. My only beef with the predator pants is that they are made of cotton and if they get wet I'm screwed. The material our USMC camies are made outta is AWESOME!! It's cool in the heat and drys SUPER fast when it's wet.

The only real tree or "well known" camo I own is one rain suit (I got cheap), an underarmor long sleeve shirt, a pair light weight pants, and a light weight hat (only because I lost my predator fall grey hat in the woods.) Now that predator is making hot weather clothing I'll be buying that from now on. When I move back to the states I plan on blowing some $$$ on some quality made predator fall brown or deception camo from these guys: http://www.graywolfwoolens.com/store/home.php

va.rn
08-30-2009, 02:27 PM
Been waiting for this one to come up. Can u smoke scent lock? Or is it overkill. I bought a smoker this year and was thinking of full gear.

Thunderflight
08-31-2009, 02:20 AM
I know there are several folks here who have smoked up their scent lok suits.

Hoytmania
08-31-2009, 06:43 AM
Holy Cow is that predator camo clothing expensive. :yikes: Why in the world is that stuff so expensve? For that price my wife better not be able to find me.

Thunderflight
09-01-2009, 02:07 AM
Holy Cow is that predator camo clothing expensive. :yikes: Why in the world is that stuff so expensve? For that price my wife better not be able to find me.


From what I've read all the clothing is custom made and the wolf skin is supposed to be "the she-aut"....

Well I've decided to leave my clothes smoked up, but have some camo as a back up. I found out there are only going to be three of us vise the four.

I'm sending some money home to my mother today and having her mail the boxes to my friend in San Diego!

Alaskancoastie
09-01-2009, 06:56 AM
TF:
I put the stalk on a herd in Oregon and got within 80yds from them, low crawled with my bow on my back for at least 150yds through a clear cut wearing my Scentlok suit. Hotter than "H" and got busted 'cause I forgot my buddy wasn't wearing Scentlok!! some believe it works others don't. its worked for me therefore I'll continue to use it. Where I hunted there was alot of Pines and huge Cedars so my spring predator worked great. Hope you have a great trip and harvest a huge bull!!

AC

CritterGitter
09-01-2009, 08:07 AM
Here is some food for thought...........if you sweat a lot..........at some point your scent lok becomes "full". Then it is done. In smoked up clothing, if you sweat a lot..........you smell mostly like smoke. The only thing I would be leary about is in the mountains with not a lot of homes around and such, the elk and game out there may very well associate the smell of smoke with humans which could be bad because you can't get rid of the smoke smell.

Definately take some back up camo that isn't smoked. Check around on Bowsite to. Aren't there some other hunters out there that have at least tried it?

Thunderflight
09-01-2009, 09:46 AM
I'd be more worried about them smelling human odor than smoke. Smoke is a natural thing in nature.

TheCream
09-01-2009, 10:42 AM
Here is some food for thought...........if you sweat a lot..........at some point your scent lok becomes "full". Then it is done. In smoked up clothing, if you sweat a lot..........you smell mostly like smoke. The only thing I would be leary about is in the mountains with not a lot of homes around and such, the elk and game out there may very well associate the smell of smoke with humans which could be bad because you can't get rid of the smoke smell.

Definately take some back up camo that isn't smoked. Check around on Bowsite to. Aren't there some other hunters out there that have at least tried it?

If you have followed the ScentLok trial, it sounds like TF's suit is already useless as far as the carbon goes. I say good call sticking with the smoke. I think on Scent Smoker's site I have seen pics of elk killed out west by "smoked up" hunters. Best of luck, and send us some kill pics! :D

bowhunter1023
09-01-2009, 10:46 AM
I hunt the way I hunt and I would go smoked up. I might consider an extra set of non-smoked clothes just to be nice, but I would not be happy about it...

CritterGitter
09-01-2009, 10:59 AM
Smoke is natural, but you need to consider the environment as well. For the most part an elk is going to smell smoke only when they get around a ranch, people camping which could likely mean danger. Also, when there is a forrest fire which also means danger. I don't know...........I have zero experience hunting out west and I will openly admit I am clueless in this regard.

I do know one thing...........playing the wind in the mountains can be a very difficult task due to changing winds, thermals and all that fun stuff. Anything you can do that gives you an advantage of minimizing your scent would certainly help. Elk hunting is an expensive endeavor. If and when I go, will be asking as many experienced elk hunters as I can find for their advice on how they do things. If they say smoke doesn't scare the elk then I would go with that. If they claim it is a deterrent then, I would go on their advice. I know there are guys on that other site that have years and years worth of experience. They should certainly know a trick or two.