View Full Version : Scent Smoker Qestion?
Limbhanger
08-18-2009, 02:44 PM
Over the last couple years I have read a lot about the scent smoker although have no expierence with one. I honestly like the idea behind it and have considered trying one, as many claim great success with them?
But just have one problem with the idea, that makes me wonder is it really worth the hassel? First off I understand the logic which makes perfect sense and do agree, as deer are use to smelling smoke. And leaf burning season is just around the corner and what could be a better coverup scent? :D
Seriously though, as with any cover scent. can we truly hide our human scent, which makes me wonder why do it? I really do not want to go through this ritual of smelling like smoke, messing with a smoker, if the end results to a deers nose is a smokey human? Not that the smoke is doing any harm, but if human scent is present, it's useless in my opinion?
Some food for thought. As with a whitetails olefactory senses, scientist and like have just barely scratched the surface on the ability of a whitetail to smell, as comparing to humans and other creatures.
Although they do claim a whiteails nose is just as good as a Bloohound, or drug dog, if not a lot better? And they do know, a drug dog can detect an ounce of weed, sumerged in a gallon of gasoline. So I'am gussing a buck can smell a very low concentration of human scent in a bunch of smoke? And they also claim a whitetail can take in 7 different scents at once, and diferentiate them. That's why I qustion if it's really worth the hassel?
I know many will claim, you have to be scent free first, as we all practice, but to a deer we are only diluting it as we will never destroy are sent 100%in the nose of a deer, just never going to happen.
bowhunter1023
08-18-2009, 03:00 PM
That's why I qustion if it's really worth the hassel?
Yes.
If you don't think so, then don't try it. No one is going to force you to give it a try...
Winter Hawk
08-18-2009, 03:17 PM
Limbhanger,
Please, don't take offense to this, but this has been "beat to death" on here. There are some people that think that it is the BEST invention since the spoon........and others that think it is the WORST idea ever.
My opinion is the same as Jesse's......
Do a search on "Scentsmoker" and see what you come up with. There should be pages and pages of discussion on it.
Winter Hawk
jackalope
08-18-2009, 03:20 PM
You are correct a whitetail has the uncanny ability to smell human scent.. He also has the ability to tell how fresh that scent trail is.. He can tell if it was 10 min ago or 10 hours ago.. Unlike a drug dog that just knows it's there period.. If deer went around all the time avoiding all human scent they wouldn't have anywhere to go.... Have you ever seen a deer com in on the same trail you walked in on.. Odds are he smelled you but figured it was long enough ago that you're long gone......
Smoke doesn't only Mask human scent.. It kills it and prevents odor causing bacteria from forming... If the animal has the ability to still smell human scent through the smoke I have never seen them react to it... It's either they don't smell human at all, or it's nothing to worry about.. Only the deer knows the answer to that... But i can say without a doubt they don't care either way.
bowhunter03
08-18-2009, 03:25 PM
i herd it was a good pruduct
TheCream
08-18-2009, 03:35 PM
I know many will claim, you have to be scent free first, as we all practice, but to a deer we are only diluting it as we will never destroy are sent 100%in the nose of a deer, just never going to happen.
If that were true, then every deer that got downwind of a hunter would spook, regardless of the method(s) used in scent control/elimination, and that is just not the case.
I've used the Smoker for a few years, I've filmed 7 bowkills in the last two years and several other encounters with bucks and other deer inside 25 yards on video with none of them blowing or spooking. As Eddie Salter likes to say, the proof is in the puddin', and I do not go hungry. :D
Darron
08-18-2009, 03:35 PM
How long does a bag of woods chips last? 5 hunts, 10 hunts, "?
bowhunter1023
08-18-2009, 03:40 PM
How long does a bag of woods chips last? 5 hunts, 10 hunts, "?
I went something like 40+ hunts last year and went through 2.5 bags of hickory chips I bought at Lowes for $3.50 a piece...
rgecko23
08-18-2009, 03:45 PM
Stop beating this dead horse, its starting to smell like hickory chips
jackalope
08-18-2009, 03:46 PM
I know many will claim, you have to be scent free first, as we all practice, but to a deer we are only diluting it as we will never destroy are sent 100%in the nose of a deer, just never going to happen.
In a normal Scent shower you are only scent free for about 2 min after the shower, if that.... Once you dry off your body will begin to produce oils and bacteria will begin to form and they create smell... By the time you ride in your truck, put on your camo, and walk to your stand you are no longer "scent free".
Smoke on the other hand coats your body to include pores with various chemical compounds that stick to you and continue to kill bacteria as it forms and prevents the creation of scent.. It also acts as a highly efficient cover scent.
Here try this.. GO home take a bathe with the most perfume smelling shampoo and shower jell you can find........ Go work up a sweat say a 2 mile run or jog.... Come home and wash with just hot water.... Now tell me if during that shower if yu can smell that old perfume shower Gel.. I bet not.....
Now with the Smoker I can smoke up, Go hunting, Sweat my butt off and the more i sweat the more smoke i smell.... When I get home and get in the shower as soon as the hot water hits you can instantly smell the smoke... That’s because it gets in your pores and coats you in odor killing compounds found in smoke.. It keeps working Scent killing soaps are designed to kill bacteria immediately and usually have no lasting effect.
jackalope
08-18-2009, 03:50 PM
How long does a bag of woods chips last? 5 hunts, 10 hunts, "?
The good news is you can buy them on clearance once BBQ season is over which is the beginning of deer season.. I bought a bunch of what looks like 1 gallon bags at Kroger last year for a dollar each.. I hunted maybe 30-40 times and used maybe 2 bags.......
That included smoking up before each hunt and smoking clothes occasionally when putting them in the container
If you can find the cheap bags like Jack then buy a bunch because they won't go to waste. I went through 5 bags last year and that was because my Son and his buddies were over every other day :whistle: Kids you got to love them :D
Limbhanger
08-18-2009, 05:59 PM
I see where many of you use hickory chips and was curious if one could use leaves? You can get those things smoking good, where many people are also burning leaves in the Fall, and they stink too.
deerhunt45
08-18-2009, 06:29 PM
I see where many of you use hickory chips and was curious if one could use leaves? You can get those things smoking good, where many people are also burning leaves in the Fall, and they stink too.
The scent smoker "method" as it relates to human scent control depends a lot upon the chemical compounds formed from burning wood, particulary hard woods, that have anti-bacterial properties. I've never heard of anyone smoking meat with leaves. They would certainly work as a cover scent though...give it a try.
geezer II
08-18-2009, 08:09 PM
Oh say can you smell
any wood smoke on me
From the dawns early light
to the twilights last gleaming
If you do....... then the deerz smell it too
From the slug guns red glare
and the arrows in the air
The smell of the smoke will put up a cloak
And the deerz wount smell you
cuz its not a joke
:):whistle::mischeif:
Good one there Geezer that put a smile on my face :D
gf319804
08-18-2009, 08:32 PM
Oh say can you smell
any wood smoke on me
From the dawns early light
to the twilights last gleaming
If you do....... then the deerz smell it too
From the slug guns red glare
and the arrows in the air
The smell of the smoke will put up a cloak
And the deerz wount smell you
cuz its not a joke
:):whistle::mischeif:
LOL
Surely you didn't think of that all by your lonesome :whistle:
bowhunter1023
08-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Oh say can you smell
any wood smoke on me
From the dawns early light
to the twilights last gleaming
If you do....... then the deerz smell it too
From the slug guns red glare
and the arrows in the air
The smell of the smoke will put up a cloak
And the deerz wount smell you
cuz its not a joke
:):whistle::mischeif:
That needs to be memorialized on this site somewhere. That is the finest post ever made on OS! LMAO!!! :biggrin:
CritterGitter
08-18-2009, 10:22 PM
It's one his best posts ever. Good stuff Geezer! :D
dannmann801
08-18-2009, 10:58 PM
...and Geezer knocks another one out of the park! Hoooooome run!
He's the Babe Ruth of B..i mean OS.
(Dat geezer he be sharp az uh dang ol' takk)
geezer II
08-19-2009, 01:17 PM
Oh say can you smell
any wood smoke on me
From the dawns early light
to the twilights last gleaming
If you do....... then the deerz smell it too
From the slug guns red glare
and the arrows in the air
The smell of the smoke will put up a cloak
And the deerz wount smell you
cuz its not a joke
:):whistle::mischeif:
I'll be singin dis at the Demolition Derby sat night at da county fair :whistle: :mischeif:
brock ratcliff
08-19-2009, 05:08 PM
Nice work Geezer!
Peppy
08-19-2009, 09:01 PM
Over the last couple years I have read a lot about the scent smoker although have no expierence with one. I honestly like the idea behind it and have considered trying one, as many claim great success with them?
But just have one problem with the idea, that makes me wonder is it really worth the hassel? First off I understand the logic which makes perfect sense and do agree, as deer are use to smelling smoke. And leaf burning season is just around the corner and what could be a better coverup scent? :D
Seriously though, as with any cover scent. can we truly hide our human scent, which makes me wonder why do it? I really do not want to go through this ritual of smelling like smoke, messing with a smoker, if the end results to a deers nose is a smokey human? Not that the smoke is doing any harm, but if human scent is present, it's useless in my opinion?
Some food for thought. As with a whitetails olefactory senses, scientist and like have just barely scratched the surface on the ability of a whitetail to smell, as comparing to humans and other creatures.
Although they do claim a whiteails nose is just as good as a Bloohound, or drug dog, if not a lot better? And they do know, a drug dog can detect an ounce of weed, sumerged in a gallon of gasoline. So I'am gussing a buck can smell a very low concentration of human scent in a bunch of smoke? And they also claim a whitetail can take in 7 different scents at once, and diferentiate them. That's why I qustion if it's really worth the hassel?
I know many will claim, you have to be scent free first, as we all practice, but to a deer we are only diluting it as we will never destroy are sent 100%in the nose of a deer, just never going to happen.
Here's some good reading.... 29 pages to be exact. :biggrin:
http://www.ohiosportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17241
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