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TRMichels
07-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Didn't seem to be a good plce to put this, but I'm sure some of the bowhunters hunt elk so here it is.

This is from my Elk Addict's Manual.

Elk Communication
Communication in most animals is developed for interaction between individual animals. There are often different communications between; 1. females and young, 2. males and females/young, 3. males and males. In horned and antlered animals communication is a combination of sounds (especially vocalizations), body posture or action, and scents. Sounds are used to communicate from both long and short range. Soft sounds and vocalizations are often used when the animals can see each other. Louder calls or sounds are used when the animals are out of sight of each other. Scents are used primarily for short range communication while other animals are present, often in the form of scent placed on the animal itself, or left on signposts when the animal is not there.

Elk use vocalizations for: 1. Alarm/Distress behavior, 2. Agonistic behavior (threat), 3. Submissive behavior, 4. Maternal/Neonatal behavior (cow/calf), 5. Social Contact (between individuals or groups), 6. Advertising (bulls), 7. Mating/Herding (bulls).

Elk use scents: 1. for individual recognition, 2. for tracking, 3. for alarm, 4. to advertise breeding readiness between sexes, 5. to attract and hold members of the opposite sex for breeding, 6. to serve as priming pheromones between the males and females, 7. to provide evidence of the health of the animal leaving the scent, 8. to mark dominance areas.

The act of placing scent on its body by an animal is called "self impregnation" and is used for close range communication; while other animals are present. Signpost scents (such as rubs, scrapes and wallows) are left behind in high use and dominance areas for communication when the animal is not present. Elk use scents on their bodies for close range communication, they also urinate on their bellies and neck during the rut. All elk leave scents behind at beds, trails, and at wallows and trees where they may rub their forehead, cheeks and neck.

Elk use a number of different body postures and activities to communicate. Like white-tailed deer they use a "head high threat" in which the head is held horizontally. This posture is often used when a dominant bull performs the Threat Rumble as it approaches another bull. Elk also use a "head low threat" in which the neck and head are stretched forward and held horizontally; this posture is often used when one elk chases another.

Long and Short Range Communication
Because of the large use areas of elk (sometimes up to thirty square miles) the strategy of bull elk in attracting females is different than species that use far smaller areas. Long range attracting by bulls is accomplished with a loud drawn out Roar, a high pitched Bugle, and a series of grunts often referred to as Chuckle. All of these sounds can be heard for hundreds of yards in open terrain. The Roar, Bugle and Chuckle may be combined into one drawn-out call I refer to as the "Full Bugle Sequence" that is used as a sign of dominance to other bulls, and to attract cows during the rut. Once the cows are nearby the bulls rely on scents, herding behavior and mating/herding calls to keep the cows close by and bring them into estrus.

I'll be talking about the sounds and scents elk us to communicate during the next few weeks, stay tuned.

If you have questions - fire away.

I hope it helped some of you.

May God bless you and yours,

T.R.




Thunderflight
07-06-2009, 03:36 PM
Shouldn't this be in the outta state hunting forum? Unless of course your talking about shooting elk in Ohio at a high fenced preserve.

Yeley0437
07-06-2009, 06:43 PM
TR it seems to me that your a really nice guy! and that you have a lot of info to share with people. but to me and a lot of other people it seems your just trying to sell your books :confused:

deerhunt45
07-06-2009, 06:56 PM
TR it seems to me that your a really nice guy! and that you have a lot of info to share with people. but to me and a lot of other people it seems your just trying to sell your books :confused:

His writing helps sustain his family. Simple as that. Why wouldn't he want to share years and years of data and experience which is in his books and writings. He is a member here, and in so far as this forum is concerned, you can choose to follow his threads and/or posts or not. I'll leave it to TR as to how to address the personal questions...

Yeley0437
07-06-2009, 07:01 PM
chuck it seems that you need to back up and re read my post! i said he has a lot of info to share and i read his posts there very informative but to me if you gonna promote something you should first be a sponsor right??? :confused: did i miss somethin here.

deerhunt45
07-06-2009, 07:30 PM
chuck it seems that you need to back up and re read my post! i said he has a lot of info to share and i read his posts there very informative but to me if you gonna promote something you should first be a sponsor right??? :confused: did i miss somethin here.

I'll leave it to Steve to answer Admin questions...never said you missed anything. Sure he wants his books to sell...what did I miss?

CritterGitter
07-06-2009, 07:37 PM
Shouldn't this be in the outta state hunting forum? Unless of course your talking about shooting elk in Ohio at a high fenced preserve.

I agree. It's why the the thread category was created. I'm sure he won't mind where it is at. I enjoy him sharing his knowledge with us. Elk are one critter I haven't ever chased after, but I will someday.

Deehntr56
07-06-2009, 09:56 PM
Good place for it, subject matter fits!!!:biggrin:

Nice job CG and 45!

Thunderflight
07-07-2009, 02:27 AM
Good place for it, subject matter fits!!!:biggrin:

Nice job CG and 45!

What about me? I'm the one who caught it!!:bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

Deehntr56
07-07-2009, 07:49 AM
What about me? I'm the one who caught it!!:bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

All right, you too TF!!!:biggrin::biggrin:

Thunderflight
07-07-2009, 07:53 AM
all right, you too tf!!!:biggrin::biggrin:

grazie mille!!!