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redcloud102
03-24-2009, 02:20 PM
Just picked up a new hunting spot for this upcoming season. I have scouted the area and have spent about 6-7 hours so far zig - zagging the 120 acres. I have found the deer really don't have a set trail system. Just seems like they just wonder here and there. I seen lots of tracks and followed them and they never came into any other trials. Seen 2 deer jump up from one spot and on another part of the property I jumped 4 more. I know the deer are there but not finding any real trails. The river that runs through the property is deep about 4-6+ ft. with steep shear banks. So it is more like a boundry then anything els unless they really get spooked. I have seen some pretty nice deer taken from this and ajoining properties so I want to hunt it. The place just seems like before and after the crops they really don't have much to keep them there. I think thats why I'm seeing the wondering tracks since no crops yet. Anybody els ever run into a spot that has real good bucks and where the deer just seem to wonder and not have set paths ?




bowhunter1023
03-24-2009, 02:41 PM
I have one farm that is like that. I am yet to find a ryhme or reason as to why they move the way they do around this farm. It is the flatest of all my hunting properties and I think that has something to do with it. But it is a good place to hunt when November roles around...

Do you find any solid crossings where they can get across that river?

redcloud102
03-24-2009, 03:08 PM
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/105/l_5d7a0435abad4362b28c11ef703408e8.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=2757276&imageID=55206983)

This is a photo of the area. Just past the south property line the river starts winding it's way through again from east to west.

bowhunter1023
03-24-2009, 03:13 PM
I see at least 3 potentially good set-ups there. Good looking piece of land for sure. Good luck solving the puzzle!

redcloud102
03-24-2009, 03:15 PM
I have one farm that is like that. I am yet to find a ryhme or reason as to why they move the way they do around this farm. It is the flatest of all my hunting properties and I think that has something to do with it. But it is a good place to hunt when November roles around...

Do you find any solid crossings where they can get across that river?

I have walked the river thats on his property and only found one spot they could or have crossed this thing but not on a regular basis. Most of the banks are dropoffs of about 6-10ft down to the water with only one spot that has any kind of slope. From what I have noticed from the tracks at the top of the banks they just follow it and not cross it. I will be back out there and post some pics of the river and the banks.

bowbean
03-24-2009, 03:55 PM
Just by looking at the aerial I think just to the west of the sharp bend in the river between the high chest weeds and that bend would be a great rut spot. Good luck.... Bowbean.

coonskinner
03-24-2009, 05:15 PM
hmmm no trails???i have never seen a place with no trails...i feel they are there but maybe hard to see...i was out in the wayne last week and on an area i have scouted years ago and sort of remembered the trail system there...i looked and looked but it took awhile but i finally located them again right where they were before...the woods were very dry and the leaves had filled the trails in from the winds blowing them...just two weeks ago every trail out there stuck out like a sore thumb...i think sooner or later you will start noticing the trails...keep looking...:D

hunterjake22
03-24-2009, 05:36 PM
i hunt a peice of property just like that, is there a way you can cross the river. If i were you i would set up a spot between the river and the high grass. I put my spot between my river and a feild just like that, and there is alot of deer that move threw there good luck

redcloud102
03-24-2009, 05:40 PM
hmmm no trails???i have never seen a place with no trails...i feel they are there but maybe hard to see...i was out in the wayne last week and on an area i have scouted years ago and sort of remembered the trail system there...i looked and looked but it took awhile but i finally located them again right where they were before...the woods were very dry and the leaves had filled the trails in from the winds blowing them...just two weeks ago every trail out there stuck out like a sore thumb...i think sooner or later you will start noticing the trails...keep looking...:D

I have looked for trails and they don't seem to be there at all. It's like they have no sense of where to go. No food to go get just the grass thats starting to turn green and some of the acorns they missed during the fall. They act like us when we get hungry and we don't know what we want and just go from spot to spot and never settle for anything. It's kind of funny but a real pain to try and figure out. Think I will have to wait till the beans come out to get any real pattern. I don't think this would make for a good late season spot ;)

redcloud102
03-24-2009, 05:48 PM
i hunt a peice of property just like that, is there a way you can cross the river. If i were you i would set up a spot between the river and the high grass. I put my spot between my river and a feild just like that, and there is alot of deer that move threw there good luck


That area is where I jumped the 4 deer the other day. Thought about hanging a stand in that area or at least do some more scouting this summer see what happens. Just hope the beaver leaves my ladder sticks alone :D

coonskinner
03-24-2009, 06:04 PM
I have looked for trails and they don't seem to be there at all. It's like they have no sense of where to go. No food to go get just the grass thats starting to turn green and some of the acorns they missed during the fall. They act like us when we get hungry and we don't know what we want and just go from spot to spot and never settle for anything. It's kind of funny but a real pain to try and figure out. Think I will have to wait till the beans come out to get any real pattern. I don't think this would make for a good late season spot ;)

if they had crops in the proceeding years in those fields there should be trails coming into them...i would really look over them fields to find where a trail or trails come in...as you work back to the beds they should spider out and you can figure out where deer deer groups are coming from...find the different bedding areas and where they feed and there should be a trail somewhere...
most times on farms the feeding areas are the easiest to find...when i first get on a farm i like to find the beds the first day i ever scout it...and i go in there very little after that...hopefully its a hard rain that day...i then try to find every trail...there might be several trails going into a main trail that ends up in the feeding area...there can be main trails like this all around the feeding area...to me once i find the beds...and i know where they feed...by the lay of the land,i can almost visualize there route to the food...this is why i like scouting early before leaves are on to see the lay of the land and also it will be a long time til hunting season giving the area a long time to get back to normal from your scouting...
but anyway i think those trails can be located...but i would find where they bed as soon as i can...:biggrin:

jbrown
03-24-2009, 06:34 PM
Good looking chunk of property there man. I know exactly what you mean about the deer not appearing to have a set pattern. That's pretty typical of NW Ohio deer.

I would check out these spots... they look pretty good from the air. I have a feeling you're going to have to really tweak your sets about two weeks or so into bow season. Farmland deer are tough to figure out before hunting them. You pretty much have to play the odds, then adjust according to what you observe. Good luck with it.

(I really like the spot furthest to the southwest:mischeif:)

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll146/farcass31/l_5d7a0435abad4362b28c11ef703408e8.jpg

antiqucycle
03-24-2009, 06:57 PM
Pray for one last snow storm. and get there to find some tracks.
I like the spot where the river bends and high weeds. but if you do hit one. time to find a canoe when the deer dives in. the other option is get out there turkey hunting just to watch deer travel.

bowhunter1023
03-24-2009, 06:59 PM
The only other thing I would add to the above, is possibly a stand in the fenceline to the north. A good wind from the southwest to one from the east would work for that. Push it towards the bend in the woods. It would be hard to get winded there and it could be a nice observation stand depending on the terrain...

Mountaineer
03-24-2009, 07:03 PM
How the heck you guys save and post arials like that?

redcloud102
03-24-2009, 07:36 PM
How the heck you guys save and post arials like that?


If you use Google Earth like I do all you have to do is get the thing zoomed in the spot you want. Then go click file in the upper left corner. On the drop down menu mouse over the save and another menu appears to the right. Mouse down to save image and click it.

redcloud102
03-24-2009, 07:42 PM
The next time I go out there I will try and look at some of the spots you guys have mentioned. I have been in a few of those spots but not heavy looking yet. Was just trying to skirt those spots and not wanting to push to much. I will take the cam out and see what happens.

Thanks for the input so far guys. I will keep you all updated.

Buckmaster
03-24-2009, 07:57 PM
Where the river crosses the road is an easily overlooked spot. It would be easy access as well provided the deer cross the road. Most likely a good evening spot.

riverdude
03-24-2009, 08:07 PM
Lets see, Its OK, but you better look at this point of view http://sourceradix.com/m/tnn.html

Hey guy's not sure what the freaking above link is but the same one was in the fishing fourm a little bit ago and I think it's bogus! It even has the same quote that was in the fishing forum. ( I hope I am wrong ) I clicked on it and it takes you to a freakin Viagra page for men and women. I went to Yahoo and just typed in www.souceradix.com (http://www.souceradix.com) and the page is blank.
I hope this is not some kind of joke someone is playing.
Be careful.
Riverdude.

deerhunt45
03-24-2009, 08:17 PM
Good looking chunk of property there man. I know exactly what you mean about the deer not appearing to have a set pattern. That's pretty typical of NW Ohio deer.

I would check out these spots... they look pretty good from the air. I have a feeling you're going to have to really tweak your sets about two weeks or so into bow season. Farmland deer are tough to figure out before hunting them. You pretty much have to play the odds, then adjust according to what you observe. Good luck with it.

(I really like the spot furthest to the southwest:mischeif:)

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll146/farcass31/l_5d7a0435abad4362b28c11ef703408e8.jpg

I like that spot as well. I would predict the closer to the rut it gets, the hotter that spot gets. Like you said jb, that's a good looking piece of land. Sounds like you are on your way to figuring it out. Best of luck redcloud.

Hey guy's not sure what the freaking above link is but the same one was in the fishing fourm a little bit ago and I think it's bogus! It even has the same quote that was in the fishing forum. ( I hope I am wrong ) I clicked on it and it takes you to a freakin Viagra page for men and women. I went to Yahoo and just typed in www.souceradix.com (http://www.souceradix.com) and the page is blank.
I hope this is not some kind of joke someone is playing.
Be careful.
Riverdude.

dude, I took care of the internet troll. I would suggest not following the links.

riverdude
03-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Thanks 45.
This is the first one I ran into on the web page. Here I thought it was just a fellow member posting something interesting.
I will PM you, have a question about this.
Riverdude.

redcloud102
03-24-2009, 10:55 PM
[quote=deerhunt45;329516]I like that spot as well. I would predict the closer to the rut it gets, the hotter that spot gets. Like you said jb, that's a good looking piece of land. Sounds like you are on your way to figuring it out. Best of luck redcloud.


I was close to that spot 2 days ago when I was there and seen a guy had a stand right in the middle of the two stand spots JB posted on the south there. I think they have a bedding area right by that corner and seemed like out of all the property it had the most standard looking trails. I will head all the way to that corner this weekend and see what I find. I'm always afraid of pushing deer to much and them not coming back. :D That's just how my luck is.

redcloud102
03-28-2009, 10:10 PM
Here is the pics of the river. If you find one spot thats low the other side isn't.
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/l_35d633a6718d4640aa22bdc7ec528b40.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=2757276&imageID=56313139)
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/99/l_69c43882f44d45d880bed94dcb542635.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=2757276&imageID=56313147)

this is the South high grass field.
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/112/l_14674ff5733a474f82d13945386007df.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=2757276&imageID=55206983)

redcloud102
03-29-2009, 12:21 AM
see if i can get better pic of that weed field tomorrow. Just noticed they didn't turn out very good.

redcloud102
03-29-2009, 10:10 PM
Pray for one last snow storm. and get there to find some tracks.
I like the spot where the river bends and high weeds. but if you do hit one. time to find a canoe when the deer dives in. the other option is get out there turkey hunting just to watch deer travel.

You asked for it :). We have a little snow on the ground now just enough to cover the truck and grass. Calling for more tonight. Wish I could get out first thing in the morning but I can't :(

redcloud102
04-11-2009, 08:37 PM
I'm starting to get discouraged with this property. The last several times I have been out there I have found the country neighborhood riding quads and dirt bikes all over the woods. Guess it is time to look around some more :(. I really was liking this spot to. Turning out to be the country side playground instead of hunting.

Told the landowner today about 4 kids about 10-12 yrs. old I seen out there but he didn't seem to mind. That is till he actually went down to the woods and seen they had a saw down there clearing new paths and tow ropes on the quads and was hooking to small trees and yanking them out. They left soon after he talked to them but sure they will be back.

Bucko
04-12-2009, 09:00 AM
I would plant something on the edge of that weed field,just like ball field "they will come".BB

redcloud102
04-12-2009, 09:57 AM
I would plant something on the edge of that weed field,just like ball field "they will come".BB


Give them time. Seems to be one of the few things they are missing right now. I really don't get the owner at all. He expanded the south weed field a total of 10 acres He had a company come in and plant 2000 trees last summer. Then he does stuff like let the country side kids ride all over the place on quads/dirt bikes. Just makes no sense to me but, it's his land and can do what he wants with it.

Just makes me mad because I have had way to many woods where the owner has shut everybody out from this exact thing. People riding quads and trashing the place up and I had nothing to do with but, I paid the price for it anyway. I don't take anything to drink unless it's cold and the drink is in my Thermos. I usually never take any food in and if I do I put what ever it was in in my pocket. Heck the shotgun shell I ejected after shooting my deer 2 years ago on his property I picked up of course it's still in my truck but, At least it's not in his woods :biggrin:.

deerhunt45
04-12-2009, 10:16 AM
Give them time. Seems to be one of the few things they are missing right now. I really don't get the owner at all. He expanded the south weed field a total of 10 acres He had a company come in and plant 2000 trees last summer. Then he does stuff like let the country side kids ride all over the place on quads/dirt bikes. Just makes no sense to me but, it's his land and can do what he wants with it.

Just makes me mad because I have had way to many woods where the owner has shut everybody out from this exact thing. People riding quads and trashing the place up and I had nothing to do with but, I paid the price for it anyway. I don't take anything to drink unless it's cold and the drink is in my Thermos. I usually never take any food in and if I do I put what ever it was in in my pocket. Heck the shotgun shell I ejected after shooting my deer 2 years ago on his property I picked up of course it's still in my truck but, At least it's not in his woods :biggrin:.

You said it...sounds like you have to put up with it or move on.

Keep looking...those that seek so shall they find :D

redcloud102
07-22-2009, 12:40 AM
GRRRR.... Well I'm thinking it is going to be PUBLIC land hunting for me this year unless I find somebody that will let a guy hunt around here :rant:. I was at this property over the weekend and things had and was looking great for this year. Then I was out there on Tuesday evening and seen they had started back to logging the property Monday on the west side of the road. I could still hunt my stand on the north east part over by the chest high weed field and hope the bucks follow the does. I'm just not sure where they will be heading to do their logging since I didn't have time Tuesday to walk the woods or stop in at the guys house. I figure they will either bump the deer further into the west woods or the deer will circle around and be over by me on the north east part. Looks like a few to many IF'S so I might be stuck on public land this year :(. SCARY thought to say the least lol.

Bucko
07-22-2009, 05:34 AM
Redcloud.Unless the land owner won't let you hunt at the time they are logging I would not let that deture me ,we hunt logging opperrations all the time.shot a doe with my bow last year from the roof of a skidder.They love tree tops.Bucko

Deehntr56
07-23-2009, 09:03 AM
I have a spot picked out, let me know when we can look at it, and then I'll show you the spot.:biggrin:

I'll only hunt that one area too.....:biggrin::biggrin:

antiqucycle
07-23-2009, 09:40 AM
Most all of the loggers I know, take deer season off so they can hunt. and I would bet you 99% of amish loggers are toting guns that week. If your hunting a logged out area, keep your eyes open for deer bedded under the tree tops.

as for public hunting areas, find a big one, drive thru middle of week and look for a congretion of hillbilly trucks, especially muddy ones and figure out what areas they are driving deer.

antiqucycle
07-23-2009, 09:47 AM
I definately look for old old wooden tree stands on any new area I hunt. you will even find 40 year old stands on public hunting areas. they were put there for a reason.

redcloud102
07-23-2009, 01:29 PM
I'm going to head out this evening and see how far to the west they have gone. If it was a REAL logging company I wouldn't worry so much about it but, since it is Duffus and Moron from down the road I'm not sure what they will do in there :D. They have been playing around for the last 3 summers. They have made paths just big enough to get their Truck's back through the woods and have done some select cutting but half of that they had laying around from last year.

56 just let me know and I will see what I can do.

Full Rut
07-23-2009, 03:05 PM
Redcloud, I wouldnt let the logging keep you from hunting that place. Like others said ,the tops provide new cover and possibly food if samplings are smashed over. It also messes up a deers normal travel route and can benefit you, if you can get a stand or blind in the right place. Ive seen this happen on a farm I used to hunt. Good Luck.

uglykat26
07-23-2009, 10:31 PM
the property i hunt in belmont county was logged out three years ago, you wanna talk about some good hunting, i have never kicked up as much deer on a drive as we did on the one hill top , there were mayb 60 tree tops laying and it seemed like there was a deer under each one, for some wierd reason deer are attracted to chainsaws, maybe the know and easy meal is not to long after the hear em , but we have had deer walk with in 20 yards of us while cutting wood

redcloud102
07-23-2009, 10:55 PM
Well I figure if it gets to bad I will go over to the local spot me and Uglykat was in this past spring :D. See if I can get myself back into the honey holes and see whats back there. I haven't hunted that property for 17 years and during bow season most of it is wide open ;).

uglykat26
07-24-2009, 10:46 AM
Well I figure if it gets to bad I will go over to the local spot me and Uglykat was in this past spring :D. See if I can get myself back into the honey holes and see whats back there. I haven't hunted that property for 17 years and during bow season most of it is wide open ;).


those werent deer trails , those were deer highways:biggrin:

redcloud102
07-24-2009, 11:06 AM
those werent deer trails , those were deer highways:biggrin:




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uglykat26
07-24-2009, 02:43 PM
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