Video of 106 Archery impact shots in 65 seconds

[struttin]

Population Control - a video of 106 Archery impact shots in 65 seconds.

Doesn't look like some of them were very,...uhhmm...... can I say "ethical"
though.:( See for yourself.....

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=48643913

[Siman08/OH]

Wow, what a video. Some of thoe shots were horrible. And i didnt see any bucks in the entire video.

[swantucky]

Buncha killers:nono:

[Cap't Ernie]

Wow, looks like a lot of wounded deer.

The worst was that big strutting tom that got a tail feathers clipped and that's it.

[uglykat26]

can we say PRACTICE AND THE ARCHERY RANGE YA MORONS

[deerjunkie]

Wow, what a video. Some of thoe shots were horrible. And i didnt see any bucks in the entire video.

So whats your point???????

[deerjunkie]

Wow, looks like a lot of wounded deer.

The worst was that big strutting tom that got a tail feathers clipped and that's it.

Wrong, that was a bunch of dead deer!!

[deerjunkie]

can we say PRACTICE AND THE ARCHERY RANGE YA MORONS

Can we say your a tool for even making a statement like that calling these people that you don't know a moron!!

[TripleA88]

ADP has had some sketchy hunts. The camera shakes to much, Ive seen several hunts with guys in the stand without safety harnesses, too many doe hunts, and they seem to like to capture hunts on two different camera angles? Sorry to any ADP guys that are OS members, just some feedback from one of your viewers. I bought one of your videos at the expo the year before last.

[deerjunkie]

ADP has had some sketchy hunts. The camera shakes to much, Ive seen several hunts with guys in the stand without safety harnesses, too many doe hunts, and they seem to like to capture hunts on two different camera angles? Sorry to any ADP guys that are OS members, just some feedback from one of your viewers. I bought one of your videos at the expo the year before last.

This is the stuff we like to hear believe it or not. Just like any new company or business there are growing pains and things that need learned. The issues you have addressed have been issues in the past but has since been worked on, like shakes in the camera. The doe kills are what they are...kills on film just like our buck, turkey, squirrel and groundhog kills. Bottom line is the old saying plays part here "You can please some of the people all the time and you can't please all the people some of the time". But I will say our positive feedback far out weighs our negative.

[rgecko23]

I would say your a moron for making that statement, when you dont even know the guys on the videos or what happened to the deer.

Dale,
that is a badass video!! Definately one of my favorites!

[deerjunkie]

I would say your a moron for making that statement, when you dont even know the guys on the videos or what happened to the deer.

Dale,
that is a badass video!! Definately one of my favorites!

I actually didn't put that together, one of our other guys was just sitting around one night and did that and then emailed it to me, I thought it was cool.

[ohiosam]

The squirrel harvests were my favorites.:mischeif:

[Gern186]

Wrong, that was a bunch of dead deer!!

I agree, except for the doe that was shot in the A$$ at 00.06 seconds into it.

My favorite was the chuck-a-saurus who took an arrow in the chicklets, that was great:yikes:

[TripleA88]

Are you guys selling any new dvds this year? I havent seen season 3 yet. I might have to stop by and talk to Damian, I think thats his name.

[NKFD13]

pretty good video, always wanted to try groundhogs with the bow how hard is it? :confused:

[deerjunkie]

Are you guys selling any new dvds this year? I havent seen season 3 yet. I might have to stop by and talk to Damian, I think thats his name.

Yes, season 3 was put out middle of last year and we are working on season 4 now. Please do stop by our booth at the Deer & Turkey Expo, we enjoy talking to people. Damian is his name.

[deerjunkie]

pretty good video, always wanted to try groundhogs with the bow how hard is it? :confused:

In my opinion from the tree stand it can be tricky because the seem to look up alot, probably watching for predator birds. But regardless from the tree or the ground they sure are alot of fun, especially if you can put the ol spot-n-stalk on them.

[Cap't Ernie]

More than happy to be a moron, even get grouped with Ugly Kat.

I'd rather be a moron than wound deer.

Or post stupid videos of poor, unethical shots and give hunters a bad name.

Yeah, I'd say being a moron is the best choice here.

[Azzy]

You have to admit that there are definitely some questionable hits on that video.

[deerjunkie]

More than happy to be a moron, even get grouped with Ugly Kat.

I'd rather be a moron than wound deer.

Or post stupid videos of poor, unethical shots and give hunters a bad name.

Yeah, I'd say being a moron is the best choice here.

Uh oh....look out ethics police making their rounds.

[Azzy]

Uh oh....look out ethics police making their rounds.

Is that comment dirtected at me, as well? Cause if you think that shooting a deer in the ass is ethical......you need to quit hunting.

Hunting is ALL ABOUT being ethical.

Be careful how you handle all this. You don't want to represent your companies in a negative light.

[Thunderflight]

Man those turkey's really "pop" when ya hittem.

[deerjunkie]

I understand everyone views things different but by NO MEANS does ADP endorse or support unethical shots. Anyone who films and hunts are human just like the rest of americas bowhunters and we make mistakes just like the rest of americas bowhunters. This vidoe clip was nothing more than one of our guys just learning editing software and having some fun with arrow hits on animals, thats all. Please rest assure that our entire hunting Pro Staff team are outstanding people, both in the field and in their personal lives. And if you ever had the chance to meet them and talk with them you would realize these are a great group of guys and women who loves the outdoors and love the sport of hunting.

[Siman08/OH]

So whats your point???????

That was just a statement, i didnt see any bucks :)

As for the horrible shots, i was referacing the doe shot in the back leg mostly. A few of the other shots were pretty far back as well....

I dont understand, i thought you wanted constructive critisizm?:coco:

[mtbiker75]

He should of edited the vid. make sure the shots that were "questionable" like the deer's @$$ or clipping the tom in strut bc now this thread is goin to b controversial instead of a cool vid.

[Outdoorman]

definitely controversial now. my 2 cents i didnt care for the "unethical shots" but there were a lot of good shots also. especially the coon at the end.

[ohiotrapper1984]

I loved the video. I like seeing those bad shots it reminds me we are all human and we make bad shots if you just ignore them and act like they never happen then how will we get any better i have made bad shots like that and if you hunt long enough you to will make an (unethical) shot and if you watch the whole vid of that hunt he might have caught the artery and she ran 20yrds and died. keep playing the clips so we can all learn from your mistakes. and for the turkey maybe he clipped a branch so if you dont like it dont watch it:p

[benehunter]

Nice video;)

[CritterGitter]

I liked it. My favorite is the masked bandit takin it under the chin. Love to see more of those. I hate coons. I hate em all!

[hunterforlife]

Uh oh....look out ethics police making their rounds.
:Modified_police::Modified_police:...Sweet Video...I loved the woodchuck shots...

[countyroad]

I have to say, the luminocks look sweet in that video. I've seen them at the range on one occassion and they were sweet there too. I'm not sure I can spend that $ on them.

[CARPN-JAKE]

Cool clip....You can't shoot that many critters and not have things go wrong sometimes...Maybe you should have shown it and maybe not but you showed it like it is and in my opinion thats how it should be shown....You can't make everyone happy, on one side you have guys complaining cause to many shows edit to much and only show the good shots and leave out the rest...On the other side of the coin you have guys saying show it all cause thats how it sometimes happens...You also hear all the time guys complaining cause all you see is big buck after big buck.. here are the doe kills for those guys.....

[357MAX]

Uh oh....look out ethics police making their rounds.
I've found that when someone calls you unethical they are usually jealous. Don't let them bother you, it was a great video.;)

[deerjunkie]

Guys, if I came across harsh in the beginning I apologize. Please understand that the camera is not always right over the shooters shoulder. Many, many times the camera is often 3-5 feet away, sometimes even 10-15 feet away in a different tree so camera angles play a big part in what you are seeing.

[Beentown]

I liked it. Yes I cringed when I saw some of the shots but I have cringed after pulling the trigger or release a time or two. Keeps it fresh and I don't mind it.

Part of the problem is there was no context behind the vid. People tend to think that if it is on video, and you show it, then your proud of it. Which may not be the case.

My .02

Beentown

Plus, some on here like to make themselves feel better by trying to talk down to people...must make them feel better. Or they are just far beyond their years and know everything. Can't handle us lowly "commoners" in the conversation :mischeif:

[Cap't Ernie]

Please understand that the camera is not always right over the shooters shoulder. Many, many times the camera is often 3-5 feet away, sometimes even 10-15 feet away in a different tree so camera angles play a big part in what you are seeing.

Holy crap. I wasn't going to say anything else, but that's a pathetic excuse for any bad shot, this video or any other.

[bowtech777]

I thought it was pretty friggin AWESOME !!!

I dont care who you are .. I LIKED IT !!!!

[Kaiser878]

ADP has had some sketchy hunts. The camera shakes to much, Ive seen several hunts with guys in the stand without safety harnesses, too many doe hunts, and they seem to like to capture hunts on two different camera angles? Sorry to any ADP guys that are OS members, just some feedback from one of your viewers. I bought one of your videos at the expo the year before last.

You have to realize one thing! ADP is basicly a non profit group of guys! Not one of the members in pocketing any cash! Most of the money goes back into equipment or funds for food plots! ADP is a group of guys who is making videos for the fun of it for guys who hunt and enjoy the outdoors the same way they do! Without a large profit coming in, well without a profit at all, it is hard to make videos of only large bucks! Your "celeb" vids are made on ranches, hunt clubs, and big name outfitters that all have one thing in common,BIG MONEY! I think its refreshing to get a vid and watch a doe get layed out, or a squirrel get harpooned! The way I see it, it is everyday hunters such as you or myself gonig out and videoing what they love to do. Also, when you watch hunts on tv a lot of the video is taken after the kill or on a seperate day to add footage. Often times it is obviously unrealisticly good footage that we all know wouldnt be obtainable at the time of the harvest!

As for harnesses, there is no law about wearing one! A harness is a safety feature that is an option. Kinda like a helmet on a motorcyle. Ill admit, i rarely ever use a safety harness! I never do with my climber. I guess thats why I never noticed it before on their vids!

[Kaiser878]

More than happy to be a moron, even get grouped with Ugly Kat.

I'd rather be a moron than wound deer.

Or post stupid videos of poor, unethical shots and give hunters a bad name.

Yeah, I'd say being a moron is the best choice here.

If you shoot enough deer you will wound one eventually! Thats just the way it is! Too many hunting vids only show the glory shots! Bad shots are part of hunting and should be shown as well. Remember, deer hunting is not a controlled environment. Even gun hunters make bad shots every once in a while. Remember, if you dont hit where you are aiming it is a bad shot, whether it kills the deer or not! Those who live in glass houses shalt not throw stones!:tsk:

[TripleA88]

Kaiser, I know who they are and respect what they do, and I enjoyed watching their dvd. I just like to pick the details out on newer companies trying to get the ball rolling. I was just giving constructive criticism and apoligize if it sounded a bit rough. A customer evaluation should be required for any production company or any business. There's always room for improvement. I know they only have 3 seasons out but I can say Im interested to see what they deliver in the years to come!

[Kaiser878]

Nah wasnt to harsh! I wasnt offended or anything! Just throwing in some points a lot of people over look!

[CritterGitter]

You have to realize one thing! ADP is basicly a non profit group of guys! Not one of the members in pocketing any cash! Most of the money goes back into equipment or funds for food plots! ADP is a group of guys who is making videos for the fun of it for guys who hunt and enjoy the outdoors the same way they do! Without a large profit coming in, well without a profit at all, it is hard to make videos of only large bucks! Your "celeb" vids are made on ranches, hunt clubs, and big name outfitters that all have one thing in common,BIG MONEY! I think its refreshing to get a vid and watch a doe get layed out, or a squirrel get harpooned! The way I see it, it is everyday hunters such as you or myself gonig out and videoing what they love to do. Also, when you watch hunts on tv a lot of the video is taken after the kill or on a seperate day to add footage. Often times it is obviously unrealisticly good footage that we all know wouldnt be obtainable at the time of the harvest!

As for harnesses, there is no law about wearing one! A harness is a safety feature that is an option. Kinda like a helmet on a motorcyle. Ill admit, i rarely ever use a safety harness! I never do with my climber. I guess thats why I never noticed it before on their vids!

Do you also drive without a seat belt? So many have lost their life or become paralyzed due to failing to use a safety harness. I can not see a good reason for not using one. I'll be certain I live to hunt another day before I will get in a tree without my safety harness.

[jackalope]

I can't see that video at work, but I Believe I have seen it in the past. I imagine many of the clips are the same as the one on your site (2nd from the top) There are many good shots in that video, and there are many bad ones also. I understand bad shots are a part of the game. It happens, I myself have made 2. And most of us try to learn from it and move on..

With that being said, I think the outrage you are experiencing here is not due to the deplorable shot placement or even the "questionable" shot placement. It's the light in which you chose to display these bad hits.. If a hunter makes a bad shot, it happens and they usually feel bad about it and move on taking with them a valuable learning experience.. The video shows none of this. It only acts as a montage of shots, some good, and some bad, some down right stupid. With no consideration as to weather the shot was good or bad the video was made with the sole intent of showing impacts. When bowhunting is cast in this light I can understand where individuals come to the conclusion that all bowhunters just shoot at animals hoping to kill them, yet wounding unrecoverable many more.

Again, it's not the bad shots I have a problem with, It's the light in which you chose to publicize them to the hunting and non hunting world. As a fire away good or bad and hope to kill them montage. Thats not bowhunting, but thats what the video displays.

[bowhunter1023]

Lot's of good stuff in this thread I think needs to be reread by a few on this forum. There are some outstanding members on OS.com and though I rarely agree with one of the fellas below, they are the kind of sportsmen I would want coming into my camp in the fall. As we all know, there tends to be a good bit of bitchin' this time of year; that just seems to be part of the game. But if you stick around and filter out some of the crap that gets posted on here, you will find some information, opinions, and truth from some members that can, and will make you a better person, as well as a better hunter. Thanks for the quality feedback from these three guys...

Cool clip....You can't shoot that many critters and not have things go wrong sometimes...Maybe you should have shown it and maybe not but you showed it like it is and in my opinion thats how it should be shown....You can't make everyone happy, on one side you have guys complaining cause to many shows edit to much and only show the good shots and leave out the rest...On the other side of the coin you have guys saying show it all cause thats how it sometimes happens...You also hear all the time guys complaining cause all you see is big buck after big buck.. here are the doe kills for those guys.....

I liked it. Yes I cringed when I saw some of the shots but I have cringed after pulling the trigger or release a time or two. Keeps it fresh and I don't mind it.

Part of the problem is there was no context behind the vid. People tend to think that if it is on video, and you show it, then your proud of it. Which may not be the case.

My .02

Beentown

Plus, some on here like to make themselves feel better by trying to talk down to people...must make them feel better. Or they are just far beyond their years and know everything. Can't handle us lowly "commoners" in the conversation :mischeif:

I can't see that video at work, but I Believe I have seen it in the past. I imagine many of the clips are the same as the one on your site (2nd from the top) There are many good shots in that video, and there are many bad ones also. I understand bad shots are a part of the game. It happens, I myself have made 2. And most of us try to learn from it and move on..

With that being said, I think the outrage you are experiencing here is not due to the deplorable shot placement or even the "questionable" shot placement. It's the light in which you chose to display these bad hits.. If a hunter makes a bad shot, it happens and they usually feel bad about it and move on taking with them a valuable learning experience.. The video shows none of this. It only acts as a montage of shots, some good, and some bad, some down right stupid. With no consideration as to weather the shot was good or bad the video was made with the sole intent of showing impacts. When bowhunting is cast in this light I can understand where individuals come to the conclusion that all bowhunters just shoot at animals hoping to kill them, yet wounding unrecoverable many more.

Again, it's not the bad shots I have a problem with, It's the light in which you chose to publicize them to the hunting and non hunting world. As a fire away good or bad and hope to kill them montage. Thats not bowhunting, but thats what the video displays.

[jackalope]

Lot's of good stuff in this thread I think needs to be reread by a few on this forum. There are some outstanding members on OS.com and though I rarely agree with one of the fellas below, they are the kind of sportsmen I would want coming into my camp in the fall. As we all know, there tends to be a good bit of bitchin' this time of year; that just seems to be part of the game. But if you stick around and filter out some of the crap that gets posted on here, you will find some information, opinions, and truth from some members that can, and will make you a better person, as well as a better hunter. Thanks for the quality feedback from these three guys...


Screw you too..... As Azzy would say, I Ain't going.... :cheeky-smiley-022::p

:D

[bowhunter1023]

Screw you too..... As Azzy would say, I Ain't going.... :cheeky-smiley-022::p

:D

Who said you were even invited?!? :biggrin: :cheeky-smiley-022: :16suspect1:

[TheCream]

I actually didn't put that together, one of our other guys was just sitting around one night and did that and then emailed it to me, I thought it was cool.

I have a few to add. :mischeif::D

[Kaiser878]

Do you also drive without a seat belt? So many have lost their life or become paralyzed due to failing to use a safety harness. I can not see a good reason for not using one. I'll be certain I live to hunt another day before I will get in a tree without my safety harness.

Yes i do drive without a seatbelt. You can do what you want, I never once said people didnt have to wear one if they didnt want to. I choose not to and dont think I nor should anyone else be chastized because they dont want to wear one! Its a choice. I wear it sometimes in certain stands, just not always! When and if I fall and get hurt I wont get on here and complain because I didnt wear one! It will be my fault and my fault only. Just like tobacco products, drinking and driving, and unprotected sex, people know they shouldnt do it but guess what?? They just do!

[wildohio22]

The squirrel harvests were my favorites.:mischeif:
meeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooooo, but how in gods green earth can you mollywap squirrels then shoot a doe in the hunches, wait we discussed this with Cap't perfect, it was the "Variables"
cool video tho

[buckstar25]

This is the stuff we like to hear believe it or not. Just like any new company or business there are growing pains and things that need learned. The issues you have addressed have been issues in the past but has since been worked on, like shakes in the camera. The doe kills are what they are...kills on film just like our buck, turkey, squirrel and groundhog kills. Bottom line is the old saying plays part here "You can please some of the people all the time and you can't please all the people some of the time". But I will say our positive feedback far out weighs our negative.

I take it you are part of ADP? If so, I don't mean any of this as an attack but here is what I see from watching your videos.

1. You guys have a lot of fun, and seem to be a close group
2. You try and stuff WAY too many kills on a video.....slow down take some time to look at the tapes and decide which hunts mean something or are unique to bowhunting. Something I can relate to as a viewer.
3. Where are the recovery scenes, hell I don't even know if half the deer you guys shot at were recovered. You see the luminock, then right into the next sequence. Again.....slow down.:)
4. One of the best scenes I have seen on ANY video was when that GIANT Carroll county buck was missed (sorry I can't remember if your guy hit him or flat out missed). That was as real as it gets man, you could see it in his eyes. That thing was a pig for sure, and then to have the outcome be even worse (for those who don't know it was recovered by GW and had been poached).

[Buck101]

Yes i do drive without a seatbelt. You can do what you want, I never once said people didnt have to wear one if they didnt want to. I choose not to and dont think I nor should anyone else be chastized because they dont want to wear one! Its a choice. I wear it sometimes in certain stands, just not always! When and if I fall and get hurt I wont get on here and complain because I didnt wear one! It will be my fault and my fault only. Just like tobacco products, drinking and driving, and unprotected sex, people know they shouldnt do it but guess what?? They just do!


Kaiser you seem smarter than that don't take this the wrong way but it takes a real fool not to wear a safety harness in a tree. i have had a close call myself a time or too on the stand, however I never have fallen. i think it would make me half sick to sit 25' up in a tree with out a harness on. i guess if that's how you roll then thats how you roll, but you being in the business your in i would think you of all people would see the resultant of not wearing a harness. good luck my freind

[Kaiser878]

Im not scared! Maybe a little senseless! Ben doesnt get mad at me for it! haha:mischeif:

[Buck101]

Im not scared! Maybe a little senseless! Ben doesnt get mad at me for it! haha:mischeif:


Well as along as Ben doesn't get mad. you don't want your signifigant other being upset about something like that

[rgecko23]

Guys, if I came across harsh in the beginning I apologize. Please understand that the camera is not always right over the shooters shoulder. Many, many times the camera is often 3-5 feet away, sometimes even 10-15 feet away in a different tree so camera angles play a big part in what you are seeing.


DONT APLOGIZE!!

If half of these guys shot as as good as how much they crtisize others for shooting they would all have thier own TV show.

Here we all go back to "ethical shots" and your not perfect everytime so how dare you not shoot a deer perfect everytime.

Get off your high horse guys!! This is rediculous. Guess what!, I shot a doe too high this season and didnt find her till two days later.......better lump me in with all thos guys too I guess.

[rgecko23]

I take it you are part of ADP? If so, I don't mean any of this as an attack but here is what I see from watching your videos.

1. You guys have a lot of fun, and seem to be a close group
2. You try and stuff WAY too many kills on a video.....slow down take some time to look at the tapes and decide which hunts mean something or are unique to bowhunting. Something I can relate to as a viewer.
3. Where are the recovery scenes, hell I don't even know if half the deer you guys shot at were recovered. You see the luminock, then right into the next sequence. Again.....slow down.:)
4. One of the best scenes I have seen on ANY video was when that GIANT Carroll county buck was missed (sorry I can't remember if your guy hit him or flat out missed). That was as real as it gets man, you could see it in his eyes. That thing was a pig for sure, and then to have the outcome be even worse (for those who don't know it was recovered by GW and had been poached).


Thats not what the video was all about, it was just a guy messing around with some editing and made a cool video...........You guys need to stop reading into stuff too much and enjoy a cool video when you see one.

[Buck101]

DONT APLOGIZE!!

If half of these guys shot as as good as how much they crtisize others for shooting they would all have thier own TV show.

Here we all go back to "ethical shots" and your not perfect everytime so how dare you not shoot a deer perfect everytime.

Get off your high horse guys!! This is rediculous. Guess what!, I shot a doe too high this season and didnt find her till two days later.......better lump me in with all thos guys too I guess.

I don't think anyone was saying they are perfect, just that they don't like seeing bad shots. i haven't seen any of the videos so i can't make any comment, but i don't think anyone meant to say they don't make bad shots just that they didn't like seeing them on a video that is all

[Kaiser878]

Well as along as Ben doesn't get mad. you don't want your signifigant other being upset about something like that


He was ur friend before mine!;)

[buckstar25]

Hey gecko....I have watched their videos. The guy said they like to hear what viewers have to say. Maybe if you read my post you would have understood that. I don't have a problem with the shots that were posted, just giving my take after watching some of their vids. Just read the first line in my post that's all.:mischeif: Better yet read the whole damn thing....especially the last point. You need to read the post you are quoting BEFORE you use it. And remember, just because you or I don't see some of the shots as questionable, they are putting it out there for the hunting community as a whole to view and spend money on.

[rgecko23]

I did read your whole post and if you read mine you would see that i was telling you that, that was not what that video was all about. It wasnt meant to be a how to or a heres our hunts and here s how we recoverd everything like you see out there. I distinctively remeber reading junkies post where he said it was a guy having fun during the editing process.

so like I said, (meant towords everyone not just you) Stop reading into stuff too much and enjoy a cool video.

[rgecko23]

"meant towords everyone, not just you"

maybe i should have clarified that. I apologise

[Jake/ButlerCounty]

Thats quite the vid.