A slaughter at the golf course

[Flyin40]

Well I finally made it out to the golf course to hunt if you can call it that. More like a slaughter. No dekes, no calling. The guy wanted the geese off the course but wouldn't delay any tee times so basically just walk up and shoot them. We walked within 10 yds of them and I lined up 3 in a row and took all of them in 1 shot then my second shot killed the last 2, 2 shots 5 geese:D :D :D . It lasted maybe 30 secs. My buddy killed 2 in the intial blast then reloaded. The geese didn't even fly, just walked off so he killed the last 3 of his limit. Wasn't actually hunting but oh well, just a freezer full of meat. Just got another call, the geese are back at the course tonight. 5 of them have neck bands, LOL

Flyin

[flathunter]

Well since no one else wants to reply to this:( ..I see nothing funny in walking up to a goose and shooting it....I would not do it, but to each his own I guess?

[Thunderflight]

The guy wanted the geese off his golf course and you wanted your freezer full so I don't see any problem with it.

I just can't believe the "walked off"... That's crazy. If the owner wants them off I'd probably come back. At least your freezer's full.

TF

[Flyin40]

If I had a choice I would rather be fielding hunting geese or hunting out of a blind but the guy wouldn't budge on tee times.
It fills the freezer and theres nothing wrong with it but theres no sport in it. The biggest concern I had was being in city limits which the course was about 1/4 mile outside the corp limit.

Hey flathunter let me know how that hamburger from McDonalds taste the next time you eat it, least these geese had a chance to get away. LOL Like you said to each there own. I grew up on a farm so you always walked up to the animal while it stood there and shot it or slit its throat. I viewed this no differently, meat for the freezer, was it fun, no not really but the scenario as a whole was funny. We used golf carts to get to the geese, no camo, and by the way we stopped the cart way before the geese so we didn't violate any laws about chasing birds in a moving vehicle. There was guys putting a the 18th green and the shooting began and you can bet they about sh** thier pants. The birds walked away, just shows you how used to people these things get.

I drew a good blind at Delaware Lake so I'll get alot more geese by actually hunting than just a 30 sec slaughter. We have a few more days left and so I'll be back out there. Doesn't compare to shooting geese at Alum Creek today out of my new Otter Stealth 2000. Now that was fun.

Flyin

[Lance]

I say great! No it's not like wing shooting but there's way too many of these stupid resident geese around. If it makes everyone happy and they're getting eaten why not. After they've gotten shot at a couple of times I'm sure their attitude will change.

[shrivl]

I don't have an issue with it either. I don't consider it hunthing though. I would say its more of animal control. As long as it was legal and no laws are broken I think it fine to control a problem in that fashion.

[COB]

I retired several years ago and have been working at a golf course as a ranger to keep play moving. Get all the free golf I can play. Geese are a real problem!!!!!!! Dirty, loud, and a general pain in the butt. The owners have several people come in and blast the birds. If you don't control them they continue to increase the flock each year. NO, I do not consider it hunting. And I am very sure those who "harvest" the bird would say it is
not hunting. Just some thing that must be done. No sense in getting our shorts in a ball. It is like all the deer in the Metro parks. Need to be thined out!!!!

[vvarmitr]

Man, you guys sound like you all could become varmint hunters. :D

[3006]

We did the same thing in someones yard just outside of New Albany. No decoys and sitting out in the open. Our birds were flying though. However, the birds we missed all landed in the little pond right next to us and did all the calling the rest of the morning. Was to easy, but somewhat like hunting.

As far as the golf course, they are problem birds and need to be delt with. The rules don't say they birds have to fly. Plus, it gives you a good chance to check out the birds with jewelry before you start dropping a few.

[Thunderflight]

I'd bet it would be kinda fun if you took a recurve and shot them with arrows.

TF

[vvarmitr]

Use a 410 shotgun! Not only would it be a little quieter, but you could tell everyone that you're so good at goose hunting you use a 410. LOL :D :D :D

[Thunderflight]

I'd bet George would like to check out that place and get some "pay back" for the goose that molest...errr I mean attacked him....:)

TF

[george tinkham]

ok hears my 2 cents on this.some of the mopsqeezer managers at apartments are really queezy on huntin but i bet if somebuddy knocked the gueese off at ponds at apts. the mopsqeezers would prolly knock a month or 2 off your rent.

[Caribou Dreamer2]

Sounds like you had a good time.I see nothing wrong with it ,if the range wanted them gone and you lended them a helping hand and plus got meat for your freezer and thats what we are all after right.
p.s The next time the golf course needs a helping hand post on here and let us know when and were and i bet we could remove a few more for him.We all could line up for a shotgun start :D

[Thunderflight]

Here Mr. Goose,,,, It's your favorite friends Mr Rabbit and Mr Squirrel...:)

TF

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[Lance]

You're warped! just plane warped!!! :D



At least left out the fuses! :p

[george tinkham]

heh heh heh,i must agree,hes a nice guy but he is misunderstood too.

[Thunderflight]

My therapist says that expressing my self on the internet is good for me.:)

TF
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[Flyin40]

INDUSTRY NEWS:
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Selects Rule for Resident Canada Geese Management

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service today proposed providing State wildlife agencies more flexibility in controlling resident Canada goose populations. Under a proposed rule published in the Federal Register, the Service would hand over much of the day-to-day management responsibility to States while maintaining primary authority to manage these populations.

The proposed rule, based on the preferred alternative outlined in a Draft Environmental Impact Statement released March 1, 2002, would authorize population control strategies such as aggressive harassment, nest destruction, gosling and adult trapping and culling programs, increased hunter harvest, or other general population reduction strategies. The rule will also offer guidelines for other activities such as special take authorization during a portion of the closed hunting season; control for the protection of airport safety, agriculture, and public health; and the take of nests and eggs without permits.

Presently, State Fish and Wildlife agencies or their authorized agents, such as the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Wildlife Services division, need a Federal permit issued by the Service to control resident Canada geese. This rule would provide for opportunities to eliminate the need for most individual permits for resident Canada goose control activities.

"Since this bird's population is increasing and they have been shown to cause local impacts to natural and economic resources, we believe local management with national oversight is the best approach to reduce conflicts," said Service Director Steve Williams.

To accommodate new information that may have become available since publication of the 2002 draft EIS, the Service is also re-opening the public comment period for 60 days.

The public may inspect comments during normal business hours in Room 4107, 4501 North Fairfax Drive, Arlington, Virginia. You may obtain copies of the draft environmental impact statement from the above address or from the Division of Migratory Bird Management web site at http://migratorybirds.fws.gov.

Generally resident Canada geese stay in the same area, and no evidence documents breeding between resident Canada geese and migratory Canada geese that nest in northern Canada and Alaska.

The Service and the States estimate the current resident Canada goose spring population at 3.2 million in the United States, about 30 percent to 35 percent above the number States believe to be acceptable based on their need to manage conflicts and problems caused by excessive numbers of resident Canada geese. Resident Canada goose populations will be monitored annually by the States and the Service. The estimated take of birds must be provided by participating States.

The rapid rise of resident Canada goose populations has been attributed to a number of factors.
Most resident Canada geese live in temperate climates with relatively stable breeding habitat conditions and low numbers of predators. They tolerate human and other disturbances, have a relative abundance of preferred habitat (such as mowed grass in urban/suburban areas), and fly relatively short distances for winter compared with other Canada goose populations. The virtual absence of waterfowl hunting in urban areas provides additional protection to those portions of the resident Canada goose population.

Expansion of existing annual hunting season and the issuance of control permits have all been used to reduce resident goose numbers with varying degrees of success. While these approaches have provided relief in some areas, they have not completely addressed the problem.

Overabundant populations of resident Canada geese can affect or damage several types of resources, including property, agriculture, and natural resources. In parks and other open areas near water, large goose flocks create local problems with their droppings.

Comments should be sent by October 20, 2003, to Chief, Division of Migratory Bird Management, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Department of the Interior, 4401 North Fairfax Drive, MBSP-4107, Arlington, Virginia 22203 or canada_goose_eis@fws.gov .

Looks larger and longer season, or maybe a spring season.

Flyin

[Beau Martin]

I like CD2's idea!!!!!!!

[10Gauge]

Flyin,

I'm just curious........where did you find a golf course that would let you on it with a gun? In my area none of the golf courses allow any gun hunting, period (city or township ord.)?!?! Some don't even allow the use of a bow (again city and township ord.) even for deer hunting?!?! We have tried to get permission to bow hunt an airport property and the airport wants the deer removed but the city and township will not allow it! They also have a goose problem.

The State & Federal Governments might loosen the laws but the real issue is local laws. I've found this to be the case with "Urban Deer" tags, the state sells them but I can't use them legally in a lot of the areas that are "open" for hunting. Many local laws prevent the use of bows as well as firearms here in SW Ohio.

[Flyin40]

Actually the golf course is out of city limits about 200yds. Theres nothing anyone can say. The funny thing is the golf course borders a sub division of houses where the cheapest house is $300,000. LOL, first day we hunted the golf course got phone calls but the owner said season was in and its legal and they will continue to allow hunting. You just have to make sure you do nothing wrong. Actually I don't even really go there, its not like hunting, just filling the freezer. I think I maybe went there 3 times total. The guy that hunts it go out 3 or 4 times a week there. To me its just not hunting. Actually you can duck hunt there, the ducks decoy but the ponds been frozen for weeks.

Flyin

[salmoide]

Originally posted by flathunter
Well since no one else wants to reply to this:( ..I see nothing funny in walking up to a goose and shooting it....I would not do it, but to each his own I guess?

This is almost like the fish in a dumpster deal, although it may be funny to a few I'm sure there are some people here that are offended by it. Personally I don't see the need to go into details of what happened, I feel it degrades this site but thats just my opinion. Good deal flathunter.;)

[Lunker]

Shoot all the flyin carp you can and when your done come to Lake Dianne in Hillsdale MI. There are thousands of them this time of year. Theyre so loud you cant talk without yelling. Then the crap they leave in the yards/docks/boats can get 1/2" thick.

[wildlife208]

Its amazing that this person thinks its funny to brag about walking up to wildlife and killing it. Sometimes it needs to be done but there is no need to gloat about the matter. The wildlife was here far before any such golf course or apartment complex and those animals have used that area long before any development was located there.

The only problem that animals have is the people that invade their territory. People that have this mentality should not be allowed to carry a weapon because they are too stupid to understand the privilege of hunting. How would you feel if someone wanted to move you out? Could we do the same to you?

[salmoide]

Well said Wildlife 208.

[Thunderflight]

Originally posted by wildlife208
The wildlife was here far before any such golf course or apartment complex and those animals have used that area long before any development was located there.


What about golf courses with man made ponds?

TF

[Flyin40]

LMAO, :D :D :D Funny stuff fellas. Save the preaching for church. I don't here you complaining about all the cows getting slaughtered while you eat your BIG MAC. By your logic you should reply on every post that have pictures a dead animals because of bragging and gloating. LMAO First I think the web site you want is www.savethewhales.com. Second, its not a priviledge, its a right. Third the geese stay at these MANMADE places because it provides them with yr around food. These are what the feds call residential geese and now are talking about special season other than the early fall which is AIMED AT KILLING AS MANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL GEESE AS POSSIBLE. They are even discussing a spring season. The geese in our flyway that actually migrate come the James area and the numbers are lower there. Don't get those confused with the geese staying in Ohio yr around and causing problems.

To your so well thought out analogy on putting myself the the position of the animal. ..............

Hey don't you live in a house made of wood, how many animals died when their woods and fields were cut down and tore up to build your house. How many fish and aquatic life died to get your gas to the gas station for your vehicle. I can go on and on and on.
Gloat: 1 obsolete : to look or glance admiringly or amorously
2 : to observe or think about something with triumphant and often malicious satisfaction, gratification, or delight <gloat over an enemy's misfortune>

We all know you at one time or another you bragged about a hunt in which animals died.

Hypocrite: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion..............

I think that last line sums it up..........

Fellas if you don't like what you read then unsucribe to the post, its that simple. I don't attack people on here but have no problem reponding to one on me. I ignored the post for a while but when thunder had my back I had to say something. BTW Thunder thks.

If you actually read my post and understood it you wouldn't have been so confused. People with a very little knowledge is dangerous.

Yeah one more thing

Hunting=A legalized license to kill/murder animals!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was quite amused at those responses, LOL
:p :p :p :p

Flyin

[Thunderflight]

No problemo.....:)

Thunderflight

[catfishhunter33]

{Many unethical activities are illegal, but not all legal activities are ethical. Therefore, to make an ethical decision about a certain behavior or activity, we must first ask, "Is it right?" not "Is it legal?" In other words, we should be guided by our conscience first, a regulations guide second.} end quote
read it somewhere, but it sums up my sportsman ethics.

but these are my thoughts

the slaughtering of any animal in an industrial environment has nothing to do with being sportsmanlike,sporting,or by any stretch of a weak imagination enjoyable!! if a person should find slaughtering fun/enjoyable something is wrong. EVEN this process is governed by ethical -so called humane practices.

impressions
[type of posts i see on this board )

well i went out [ bunny-bird-coyote-deer -duck-carp] use which ever is appropiate] hunting today .man did we do good!!!
shot 40 between us,left them in a pile in a dumpster. we sure thinned them critters out.they were so dumb we just stomped on their heads.no need to use a gun but bubba did cuz he likes to be SPORTSMANlike.

[responses]
[type of posts i see on this board )

hey there elmer great shooting !!!boy wished i was there coulda made it 50.where wur ya shootn at ur shoulda say wurs your stompin grouns at ha ha ha ha ha.

great day there good buddy.a mans got the right to kill/waste in the name of SPORT and just where and when are you going again.?i sure would like to get in on this SPORT !!!!

ETHICS
are not just for individuals

i welcomed this site in the beginning but have since had second thoughts. i have asked at least 6-7 of my hunting/fishing
SPORTSMAN friends to visit this site and i see none have joined or revisit on a regular basis. i no longer mention this site to my SPORTSMAN friends

closing thoughts

i may pizz in the shower
pick my nose in the woods
do my neighbors wife

but would never brag or discuss it, it is just not right

my freezer is full cant wait to get out in my blind

you can just walk up to them they dont even try to get away

there are a bunch of cows in the field if anyone wants a hamburger!!!!

what is your SPORTSMAN mentallity????

[flathunter]

Catfish hunter33 AMEN!!!!!! I like you have tried to direct people to this site, I have told many that I work with about this site.

But is is threads like this one, that has turned them off.
This site is called Ohio Sportsman, not Ohio Slaughter house.

If I was the moderator of this forum I would have yanked this thread as soon as I saw it, it turns alot of potential Ohio Sportsman members off

[Ohio Sportsman]

Some folks are just blind to whats ethical and whats not, I see no sport in walking up to geese like that and kapow we got goose and telling about it. Morals should be the first thing that should be taught not only in hunting but everyday life when we are children, I will agree that it does not look good for the site or present a very good image of a member who would post such nonsense as that. Theres nothing wrong with hunting, its all in how you go about the hunt. It's definately a turn-off when I see someone post like this, it does not give me a good feeling that there are hunters who go out and actually do and condone this kind of behavior. I'd say someone needs to go to therapy, they have got some bad skeltons in their closet to actually post a thread like this.

As for moderators they should have the power to amend any thread that seems undesireable in any section of the forum, not just the one their assigned. I would also have yanked this thread in a blink of an eye because it's not what I want to see promoted on this site as I'm sure their are many other who feel the same way. Keep your slaughter talk to the good ole boys who enjoys it and off the forums and in private, for visitors it's not a good image to promote as Ohio Sportsmen and women.

[Flyin40]

First more people agree with me than not, even moderator said this in there post.

Fellas it is very obvious you have no comprehension to anything I posted. You need to go back and READ my post. Its obvious you guys only skimmed it.

Look closely and you'll see what I actually posted instead of your interpretation of what I posted. You guys put alot of words and things that I never said or even implied.


I placed <-------------where I added things to back my quote

Originally posted by Flyin40
Well I finally made it out to the golf course to hunt if you can call it that. <---------Here I even stated it was not hunting......

More like a slaughter. No dekes, no calling. The guy wanted the geese off the course but wouldn't delay any tee times so basically just walk up and shoot them. <------(I attempted to get the guy let us hunt them but he said he would lose money) of them and I lined up 3 in a row and took all of them in 1 shot then my second shot killed the last 2, 2 shots 5 geese:D :D :D. <-----( I thought it was funny it took me 2 shells for 5 geese) Wasn't actually hunting but oh well, just a freezer full of meat. <----Again I said it wasn't hunting but it needed done.)

Flyin

Originally posted by Flyin40
If I had a choice I would rather be fielding hunting geese or hunting out of a blind but the guy wouldn't budge on tee times.
It fills the freezer and theres nothing wrong with it but theres no sport in it. <--------(Again this shows I tried to hunt them but the guy wouldn't allow me and again I reiterate its I don't consider it hunting)

I viewed this no differently, meat for the freezer, was it fun, no not really but the scenario as a whole was funny. We used golf carts to get to the geese, no camo, and by the way we stopped the cart way before the geese so we didn't violate any laws about chasing birds in a moving vehicle. There was guys putting a the 18th green and the shooting began and you can bet they about sh** thier pants. <----------(Wow I said I didn't think it was funny, I said the senario as a whole was funny, the riding the cart, no camo, we were in short, the guy golfing on the green, that was what was funny.)

I drew a good blind at Delaware Lake so I'll get alot more geese by actually hunting than just a 30 sec slaughter. We have a few more days left and so I'll be back out there. Doesn't compare to shooting geese at Alum Creek today out of my new Otter Stealth 2000. Now that was fun.<------(Again I state how I would rather hunt anytime that just go shoot geese at the golf course.)

Flyin

Originally posted by Flyin40
Actually I don't even really go there, its not like hunting, just filling the freezer. I think I maybe went there 3 times total. The guy that hunts it go out 3 or 4 times a week there. To me its just not hunting. <---------(If I really thought it was fun I think I would of did it more. I did nothing more than do the golf course owner a favor and fill my freezer.)

Flyin

Please quote where I said this was funny.............:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Please quote where I said this was actually hunting...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

All that happened here is some of you put words in my post that were never there. You will find when discussing something on forums you NEED TO QUOTE WHAT PEOPLE SAY.

ITS OBVIOUS YOU GUYS DIDN'T READ THE WHOLE POST AND SKIMMED IT AND THEN PROCEEDED TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND SENTENCES IN MY POST.

If your going to discuss or argue your opinion of a situation the first thing you need to have is the facts, which its obvious you don't. It funny how all these people can see inside my mind and tell what I'm thinking.

I'm a very ethical hunter. The last time I went to the course the guy brought his son, and it was the last time I hunted there. I told him all your doing is creating a road hunter. That he should never introduce a youth to hunting in that type of situation. I invited him to bring his son pheasant hunting and hunting in my blind, which he did.

Fellas no matter what you say there was nothing wrong with what I did, its legal and ethical. The geese did not suffer and were dead quickly.

Let me ask this, how about the state having all the deer shot in the metro parks throughout the state. Whether you like it or not these things need done.

I would have cleared this up early but I found It so funny that people were putting all these words in my mouth. You guys didnt' even have enough respect to read the whole post.

The worst part about this is the last post by the Ohio Sportsman moderator. Your the moderator and even you failed to read the post carefully. Forums are for dicussions, not for someone to shove there opinions down other peoples throats. Even if a moderator does not agree whos says there opinion is right???
Its all opinions.........

Flyin

[catfishhunter33]

as a member of a group--club--association--society or whatever, ethics or the lack of can be the cause of success or failure.i would ask that you dont take this as an attack on you personnally

i read your entire post plus every post that you have made by doing a member search.did not skim any of them.all in all i found most of your posts somewhat interesting/somewhat informative,im not a big hunter rather fish.

now to quote

I'm a very ethical hunter. The last time I went to the course the guy brought his son, and it was the last time I hunted there. I told him all your doing is creating a road hunter.

what difference is it if my son reads this post.is this not the same thought as you just typed.

quote

Fellas no matter what you say there was nothing wrong with what I did, its legal and ethical.


agreed but to post it i dont think has any value to this
club--membership--or website.fishing is like hunting some fish will die some will survive.i have no problem with either sport.just how one presents himself to a group of other sportsmen.it seems to me that the area of difference is not really with you but maybe how the moderators/administrators seem to want to do their business.i have no personal gripe at/with anybody. it just doesnt feel right to me to continually leave posts such as this on the forum .not my forum though


Many unethical activities are illegal, but not all legal activities are ethical.

happy hunting
this topic is closed for me

[Ohio Sportsman]

I'm not saying that my opinion is right all I'm saying is that the post is in poor taste in my opinion and should have never been posted to begin with. Look deep into your soul and tell me that something of this nature needs to be posted here on this site, I just don't see it and I'm not going to argue about who's right or who is wrong. Someone of a higher power than I needs to nip this thread in the bud, I don't think this is the kind of thing this site wants to promote but that is for the administration to decide.

If it would have been posted in the General Discussion forum where I have moderator status I would have deleted it long ago. Where I come from it's plain and simple that it shows poor taste, and gives the site a black eye so to speak. Yes I have not been around, thats because I'm suffering from an illness and have not been up to being involved in the site but that does not mean that I do not frequent here. But when I see something of this nature coming to light, I'm more than glad to set any personal problems aside to uphold the moral status of this site. Please try to refrain from posts such as this in the future and I don't think you will have a problem with the membership or the mods, lets keep it clean for all Ohio Sportsmen and women and especially for our children who learn from what we teach.

[Lunker]

I agree with the practice of taking nuisance and problem animals out of a system. I agree with any means neccesary. Most people call pest control some just shoot them themselves, yeah its not pretty I know. Geese are turning into a problem. Maybe if more people hunted golf courses the geese would go back into the lakes and swamps where you goose hunters could shoot them which Id love to see..

[Flyin40]

Actually this is exactly the type of thing that needs to be discussed. People have views and the purpose of this forum is to provide a place of discussion. If you frequent very many forums as I do the main rule is NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. As long as the discussion is kept a discussion and people post there views in a RESPECTFUL way there is no problem. I was attacked on this post and it should of been dealt with.

As soon as you start putting limitations on what people can say in a forum as long as theres no cussing, personal attacks, discriminating or prejudiced remarks posted the post should be left alone. It does not matter if the moderator agrees with it or not or the opinion they have of the post.

I ask you this, in general discussion I can bet you would leave a post alone about execution. This is a touchy topic to some people, it involves the debate of whether a PERSON, not a animal should live or die yet I'm very sure you would leave this as a post.

It comes down to this fellas, in forums people post there experiences they have, things they like and don't like. If you don't agree with something your intitled to that OPINION. You can even discuss it with the person. The problem that happened here is I was attacked, and not ask to discuss it.

Now to the last two post...........
This is how the forum is supposed to work, if someone would of posted like that in the beginning trying to discuss it I would have cleared it up ealier. As you seen I didn't respond to the attacks for almost 4 months. I'm not interested in arguing with people. I come on this forum to discuss Ohio hunting and fishing.
I also recruit for this forum. I have posted with people and got to know some. If you read my other post as you said then you see I don't post about unethical things etc.
This is not a bad forum and many people enjoy just make sure you show the respect to people even if you don't agree. State your opinions, try to get them to discuss it, if they don't see what your saying then leave it alone.

The reason I keep posting is an attempt to get people to see a forums supposed to work. This is a good forum and I enjoy coming here. If these post get people to discuss things it makes the forum a better place.

Flyin

[CritterGitter]

I have a problem with people who get offended by everything. I might have done the same thing as Flyin40 if I were given the opportunity and I might not have. I would not have chosen to present it in an open forum. However, he did and that's his perspective. He is entitled to present it if he so chooses.

CG

[Thunderflight]

Catfish tell us how you really feel...;)

Not that I've ready every thread ever posted, but I can't think of many that come close to your description.

You and everyone else is entitled to his or her opions and their own ethics. Personnally I think the Elmer comments where a bit low, but it's a free country so plug away.

This is a free message board that revolves around hunting and fishing. The conversations that take place here are the same topics that most folks (at least all the Elmers I know) have in their buddies garage while drinking a few beers. Mabye you and your friends don't talk about stuff like that and that's cool, but I'd be willing to bet that there is stuff you talk about that others would find offensive too. People should not throw stones unless they are with out sin. I don't know to many non-sinners.

Where are you all getting Flyn40's gloating at? How many times does he have to say that he didn't consider it hunting and was just filling his freezer? Just about everyone I know would do the same thing.

If gloating is the issue then I think I'm the only one who was making real fun of the deal. I guess that makes me the biggest Elmer of us all.:)

Bad thing about the internet is that words don't have emotions. They can be taken many ways and are often interpeted wrong. If I'm wrong then I apologize.

Thunderflight


http://www.wiseacre-gardens.com/buttons/pics/elmer_.gif

[catfishhunter33]

Bad thing about the internet is that words don't have emotions. They can be taken many ways and are often interpeted wrong. If I'm wrong then I apologize.


no need thunder

my comments were not intended to flame anyone
i agree with you on the garage talk


This is a free message board that revolves around hunting and fishing. The conversations that take place here are the same topics that most folks (at least all the Elmers I know) have in their buddies garage while drinking a few beers.


maybe thats where these kinds of posts should be,just my thoughts.

can we move on

[wildlife208]

Flyin40 you are a person that is uneducated. Hunting is not a right it is a privilege and that privilege can be taken away as quickly as you earned it. I live in a wooden house surrounded by woodlands and wildlife and I respect the fact that all animals were here before any man. Wheather or not a business constructed or already contained land that was occupied by Residential animals does not matter. Dont sound like a stupid hunter that brags about slaughtering animals in a public setting because you make the other 99.999% of waterfowl hunters sound the same and we are not.

I am by far NOT a hypocritical person nor am I uneducated. I have a Degree as a Wildlife Biologist and people such as yourself make me angry and I will not bite my tongue.

What degree do you have in Natural Resources? Have you even taken a college course in ecology or biology? The reason I ask is because you sound like a backwards hillbilly that thinks all that matters is what you GET out of life NOT what you give back!

[Ohio Sportsman]

Ok everyone lets lighten up on the name calling, it won't be tolerated. Keep it clean or the thread will be closed and or deleted. Thank you for your cooperation in advance... :)

[Thunderflight]

I'd like to file a motion that this thread be closed or deleted.

All in favor say "eye"

All not in favor say "nay"

Thunderflight

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[Flyin40]

Thank you Ohio sportman for giving warnings. I too ask this thread be locked. Everyone stated their opinions and I appreciate those who replied, even the ones that disagreed.


This is to Thunderflight, how in the heck to you have time to get all those great pics posted???????????????? You have one for every occasion:D :D

Flyin

[3006]

I see nothing wrong with it. Heck, we did about the same thing in someones front yard here around New Albany. Of course, we shot them in the air, but those we missed landed in the pond right behind us. I got there a little late and was yelling at the guys that they had geese on the pond. Heck, sent the dog out to flush them off and all they would do was swim to the other side.... Damn things need to be taken care of and that is what the early season is for....

[Lance]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the content of the orginal post and it's created an interesting exchange of views both on ethics and the mess of a goose population we have. The title of the thread probably could have been stated a little less bluntly but so be it.
I'll close this thread at the originators request.