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rossdeerhunter
11-25-2008, 08:57 PM
any one else planning on taking their bow out during gun week.




swantucky
11-25-2008, 09:01 PM
I will but only in an area where guns are not allowed. The bad thing is you miss the best 1/2 hour in the evening.

BigGeaugaBucks
11-25-2008, 09:13 PM
yes ill be taking out the trusty old pse foxfire opening day due to a firearms limitation on my record but ill be part of the orange army providing nothing happens now till monday planning on morning and evening hunting all of this week possibly a diff property friday with a buddy

coonskinner
11-26-2008, 02:57 AM
i believe all hunting is accordin to gun law...right...orange and gun huntin times observed...:D

deerhunt45
11-26-2008, 08:05 AM
i believe all hunting is accordin to gun law...right...orange and gun huntin times observed...:D

That is correct!

ohiosam
11-26-2008, 08:15 AM
yes ill be taking out the trusty old pse foxfire opening day due to a firearms limitation on my record b

I know a guy with a felony drug possession conviction from when he was 18 or 19. He hunts with a muzzleloader, they aren't firearms according federal law. He was a pro for one of the ML manufacturers. He's with one of the camo companies now. But don't take my word check with a lawyer first.

BigGeaugaBucks
11-26-2008, 08:52 AM
I know a guy with a felony drug possession conviction from when he was 18 or 19. He hunts with a muzzleloader, they aren't firearms according federal law. He was a pro for one of the ML manufacturers. He's with one of the camo companies now. But don't take my word check with a lawyer first.
thanks for that info ill be checking into i talked with one before i purchased my huntin license this year just to find out if i could still hunt or not and he told me it was fine to hunt just not with a gun but ill do some more research on that...

jackalope
11-26-2008, 09:03 AM
I know a guy with a felony drug possession conviction from when he was 18 or 19. He hunts with a muzzleloader, they aren't firearms according federal law. He was a pro for one of the ML manufacturers. He's with one of the camo companies now. But don't take my word check with a lawyer first.

2923.11 Weapons control definitions.

As used in sections 2923.11 to 2923.24 of the Revised Code:
(A) “Deadly weapon” means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon.
(B)(1) “Firearm” means any deadly weapon capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant. “Firearm” includes an unloaded firearm, and any firearm that is inoperable but that can readily be rendered operable.
(2) When determining whether a firearm is capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant, the trier of fact may rely upon circumstantial evidence, including, but not limited to, the representations and actions of the individual exercising control over the firearm.






2923.13 Having weapons while under disability.

(A) Unless relieved from disability as provided in section 2923.14 of the Revised Code, no person shall knowingly acquire, have, carry, or use any firearm or dangerous ordnance, if any of the following apply:
(1) The person is a fugitive from justice.
(2) The person is under indictment for or has been convicted of any felony offense of violence or has been adjudicated a delinquent child for the commission of an offense that, if committed by an adult, would have been a felony offense of violence.
(3) The person is under indictment for or has been convicted of any offense involving the illegal possession, use, sale, administration, distribution, or trafficking in any drug of abuse or has been adjudicated a delinquent child for the commission of an offense that, if committed by an adult, would have been an offense involving the illegal possession, use, sale, administration, distribution, or trafficking in any drug of abuse.
(4) The person is drug dependent, in danger of drug dependence, or a chronic alcoholic.
(5) The person is under adjudication of mental incompetence, has been adjudicated as a mental defective, has been committed to a mental institution, has been found by a court to be a mentally ill person subject to hospitalization by court order, or is an involuntary patient other than one who is a patient only for purposes of observation. As used in this division, “mentally ill person subject to hospitalization by court order” and “patient” have the same meanings as in section 5122.01 of the Revised Code.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of having weapons while under disability, a felony of the third degree.


But here is where it get confusing for me.. If y look above the only felony convictions it mentions is for drug related, or violence.







2923.14 Relief from weapons disability.

(A) Any person who, solely by reason of the person’s disability under division (A)(2) or (3) of section 2923.13 of the Revised Code, is prohibited from acquiring, having, carrying, or using firearms, may apply to the court of common pleas in the county in which the person resides for relief from such prohibition.
(B) The application shall recite the following:
(1) All indictments, convictions, or adjudications upon which the applicant’s disability is based, the sentence imposed and served, and any release granted under a community control sanction, post-release control sanction, or parole, any partial or conditional pardon granted, or other disposition of each case;
(2) Facts showing the applicant to be a fit subject for relief under this section.
(C) A copy of the application shall be served on the county prosecutor. The county prosecutor shall cause the matter to be investigated and shall raise before the court any objections to granting relief that the investigation reveals.
(D) Upon hearing, the court may grant the applicant relief pursuant to this section, if all of the following apply:
(1) The applicant has been fully discharged from imprisonment, community control, post-release control, and parole, or, if the applicant is under indictment, has been released on bail or recognizance.
(2) The applicant has led a law-abiding life since discharge or release, and appears likely to continue to do so.
(3) The applicant is not otherwise prohibited by law from acquiring, having, or using firearms.
(E) Costs of the proceeding shall be charged as in other civil cases, and taxed to the applicant.
(F) Relief from disability granted pursuant to this section:
(1) Applies only with respect to indictments, convictions, or adjudications recited in the application;
(2) Applies only with respect to firearms lawfully acquired, possessed, carried, or used by the applicant;
(3) Does not apply with respect to dangerous ordnance;
(4) May be revoked by the court at any time for good cause shown and upon notice to the applicant;
(5) Is automatically void upon commission by the applicant of any offense set forth in division (A)(2) or (3) of section 2923.13 of the Revised Code, or upon the applicant’s becoming one of the class of persons named in division (A)(1), (4), or (5) of that section.
(G) As used in this section:
(1) “Community control sanction” has the same meaning as in section 2929.01 of the Revised Code.
(2) “Post-release control” and “post-release control sanction” have the same meanings as in section 2967.01 of the Revised Code.
Effective Date: 01-01-2004

ohiosam
11-26-2008, 09:23 AM
Here's what I know. Our families have know each other for a long time.
When he was 18 or 19 a friend traveled to the Caribbean. Mailed a package of drugs to this guy. He received the package and hid it in his house, unopened. Cops searched the place and found the unopened package. He was arrested and convicted.

When he was in his late 20's he was working as a sales rep/ pro hunter for a well known manufacture of muzzleloaders. He's was here hunting doves with a friend and explained to me that he was allowed to use the muzzleloaders but not breechloaders. That was probably 8 or 10 years ago, maybe the law has changed. He now works for a camo/clothing company again as a sales rep/pro hunter. He has been on TV. I'm not sure if he's still hunting with a ML.

By this time maybe his record has been expunged, but at the time he was here dove hunting it wasn't.