New Scent Control

[OLDHAT]

You guys should have seen it, I never realized that Copenhagen was the ultimate scent control ever. I mean it's happened to me several times this year already let alone all the other years, you know be in a tree stand and have deer walking all around you, I mean up wind, down wind, side wind, etc and I never get winded. Now I don't practice any scent control and I spit right on the ground, hell might have been 2 chews of snuff there and in the same morning hunt I had a doe and her yearling within 3 ft of it, all around it feeding. Then about 30 minutes later I had a 90" 8pt come in and feed/hang within 15 yards of my stand for nearly 40 minutes he fed all around me so it has to be the copenhegen smell that really proetected me from getting busted.

The hell with Scent-lok, Cover Scents, Scent-Smoker, etc. go get yourself some chew and spat it all over the ground, it completely covers your scent, I mean how else could deer get down wind, up wind, cross wind, side wind and all of them be "no wind" on oldhat.

I know why I take so many deer now and never get busted, it took me years to figure out that I'm not really that good at hunting, but instead a copenhagen chewer.....Call MR. Obvious on this one, can't beleive it took me that long to figure it out!

And "Tip" with that nice 9pt he took oening day, he had redman spit and a big cud under his stand...that deer came in right to him with the wind blowing right at the deer, so not only is it good for Copenhagen, but Redman works just as well.

IT is so good boys that it even covered up my stinky butt from eating 10 bean soup the night before. Now I don't know if any of you know what 10 bean soup is, but when you eat 2 bowls you fart all day the next day, so no need for cover-scents, smoke, scent-lok, etc just put a little pinch between your cheek and gum and just spit all over the place.

"Scoal Brother"- Earl Cambel

Oldhat (The above was sarcasm).

[Buckmaster]

Oldhat, you took that long to master the concept? The Copenhagen trick followed by taking the inevitable "golden shower" (best if strong coffee was recently consumed) from the treestand obtain results of 153% superiority over the use of combined Scent Lok use coupled with the Smoke Scent. You may score a deer this year Oldhat.

[SouthernOhio#9]

:D Thats funny:D .......Will straight copenhagen work, or does it have to be chewed to work better? Because if it has to be chewed, then maybe you should start bottling and selling that wonder juice for us that dont chew :idea: !!!!!! Ha ha. Just kiddin, Thats a pretty gross idea, but funny.

[swantucky]

I like the combination approach, Marlboro lights and the scent smoker:whistle:

[oobuck]

Anyone have luck w/Skoal mint?

[erbuck]

CHERRY Skoal works wonders! !My wife got me a scent smoker for Christmas last year and I'm going to try it!

[archer1983]

Oldhat, you took that long to master the concept? The Copenhagen trick followed by taking the inevitable "golden shower" (best if strong coffee was recently consumed) from the treestand obtain results of 153% superiority over the use of combined Scent Lok use coupled with the Smoke Scent. You may score a deer this year Oldhat.

:p

[Woodland]

Maybe it was the 10 bean soup.

[HeartLunger]

I hear sarcastic chewers are condemned to a lonely life of postage licking. It's sad really.

[bmiller]

It sure works on squirrels.I've been spitting on the same one for the past three days and it won't leave me alone :yikes:

[Peppy]

Well, at least no one can blame you for having too much time on your hands.

Hey, in order to have complete scent elimination, you must also take steps to eliminate bacteria on your hands, face, hair and clothes.
Do you happen to have any pics to prove that you and Tip stood toe to toe and slobbered and spit all over each other before that hunt? If not, I think you'll need to in order for us all to run out and buy some chew.

[OLDHAT]

You boys just wait, wait until I kill a doe and post my can of chew and a bowl of the 10 bean soup with it...that should convince you, I mean if you won't accept my endorsement of these prodcuts at my word, then I must need a few pics to go along with what I am endorsing....that should sway you nay-sayer voters...pictures are the key! After all, it is a well known fact that early Americans craved tobbacco to go along with their hunt...they hunted every day and coveted the daily consumption of tobacco..they knew it had mysterious powers (bong bong bong (exciting base drum beat of 3) to add to the mystery), they showed this product to early Europians to help them better survive. They were all starving and they gave them chewing tobacco not for a stimulant, but for a mask to cover your scent. Don't believe me, then look at Buttmasters great great great great great great great Indian grandfather "Pokahiney"...where do you think his talents derived from today?

Oldhat

[OLDHAT]

And for further truths, it is a well known fact that a majority of farmers "chew". So it just goes to show that the deer are accustomed to this smell...proof is in the spittle!

I also think a farm tractor makes for an excellent blind despite the hydraulic fluid, oil, and exhaust that is given off.

Consider me the "anti-matter" to scent control. Hell, I even shower with perfumed shampoo, get crispy cream chocolate doughnuts, mustard from my Quarter pounder, Coke, and the occasional garlic from my cooked trout, all over me before going hunting....it has got to be the chew boys.

For all you nay-sayers...just wait, OldHat is coming with the proof of pictures and videos, that's what the new hunters need to believe!

Just go to Tips bow kill this year on his team thread (Rib Crackers)...take a look at all his "Thank you's" to the products that helped him take his deer this year and you will see "Redman" under his endorsements!

Oldhat

[OLDHAT]

Well, at least no one can blame you for having too much time on your hands.

Hey, in order to have complete scent elimination, you must also take steps to eliminate bacteria on your hands, face, hair and clothes.
Do you happen to have any pics to prove that you and Tip stood toe to toe and slobbered and spit all over each other before that hunt? If not, I think you'll need to in order for us all to run out and buy some chew.\

Oh, I beleive in the "trickle down" theory...just let it drip off your chin and before you know it, when you take your sleeve of your shirt and keep wipn' it off it distributes itself all over your body in a matter of minutes.

Oldhat

[OLDHAT]

:D Thats funny:D .......Will straight copenhagen work, or does it have to be chewed to work better? Because if it has to be chewed, then maybe you should start bottling and selling that wonder juice for us that dont chew :idea: !!!!!! Ha ha. Just kiddin, Thats a pretty gross idea, but funny.

Not sure, because I do tend to get a bt messy with it when I get a rub. A lot fo it falls off the pinch before getting it into my lip. So it may be the non chewed stuff, so I advise you to make sure you spill a little around that has not been chewed. You can go as far as sprinkling a little and spitting on your way in to mask your trail...kinda like Hansel and Grettle with the bread crumb trail to find their way back home!

Oldhat

[coonskinner]

deer love tobach...an other related products...used to know these guys in meigs county that had trouble with deer eatin their crop...

[Hiller]

I hear sarcastic chewers are condemned to a lonely life of postage licking. It's sad really.

LOL

[Peppy]

I can't believe Oldhat has just now figured out how great chew is as a scent elimination tool. Get with the times bro!! :coolgleamA:

[bowhunter1023]

I want to know what your major issue is with anyone, not just me and the smoker supporters, stating that something they use works and they love having it as part of their arsenal?

I'm not an idiot. This thread was obviously intended to make fun of if not me, all the smoker supporters in general. So what is your issue Jesse?

[Hiller]

I've found he's good at repeating info he has heard elsewhere and bashing people for things they use even though he has no experience with it... Because as we all know, old does are easy to kill and have no survival instincts or sense of smell, and since we're young guys Jesse, well we don't know a darn thing about anything...

If your not willing to try things that work then I could care less... stay in your dark cave while the rest of the world advances...

[Big H]

I've found he's good at repeating info he has heard elsewhere and bashing people for things they use even though he has no experience with it...

If your not willing to try things that work then I could care less... stay in your dark cave while the rest of the world advances...

Yeah, what Hiller and 102345 said.

[TheCream]

OldHat, this is no sarcasm (which I know is odd for me). My roommate/hunting buddy had a 7-pointer directly under his stand last week. He is a snuff-user. He was spitting all around the little buck while he was under the stand, even HITTING him once, and he said the deer never spooked. But he did say the spit hitting the back of his neck startled him a bit. :D

[Azzy]

Guys guys guys.......we've gone through this before....many many times with many many people. WE know it works. That's all the matters.

Do we care if OH kills a deer? Sure. We support our fellow sportsmen no matter what (unless they are complete tool and/or a$$clown).

Who gives a rat's a$$ if he likes it or not. He's the one missing out. Well, maybe. If what he does works for him...great. More power to him.

Me? I'd rather know that I can walk ANYWHERE in the woods and set up without worry of wind direction. That takes a HUGE load of my mind when hunting. If the wind is in my favor, even better for me. But just in case.....I'd rather smell like smoke than some spray on crap that has NEVER worked for me and hope for the best. I was never confident walking to a stand until I started smoking up. Now I can concentrate on hunting instead of worrying about which way the wind is blowing.

I think Old Hat is just being an A$$hat. :)

[bowhunter1023]

Well said Adam...

[Cap't Ernie]

No sarcasm.

This really doesn't surprise me.

All of you guys that went no-scent thought it was awesome...and now those of you smoking it up think it's the best thing since...well, no scent!

Ask an old timer that hunts bear in PA, where the standers build a little fire to stay warm: the deer come in from miles.

How about all the guys that stay in cabins and leave the Woolrich's hanging up off the loft?

Or the guys that cut wood and load the outdoor furnace and hunt with the same pair of Carhartts?

[Azzy]

Well said Adam...

Could you possibly ignore me anymore?? :rolleyes:

[TheCream]

No sarcasm.

This really doesn't surprise me.

All of you guys that went no-scent thought it was awesome...and now those of you smoking it up think it's the best thing since...well, no scent!

Ask an old timer that hunts bear in PA, where the standers build a little fire to stay warm: the deer come in from miles.

How about all the guys that stay in cabins and leave the Woolrich's hanging up off the loft?

Or the guys that cut wood and load the outdoor furnace and hunt with the same pair of Carhartts?

I am related to several of those types. They get their deer in gun season on deer drives. That's a far cry from bowhunting!

[bowhunter1023]

All of you guys that went no-scent thought it was awesome...and now those of you smoking it up think it's the best thing since...well, no scent!


And I thought that "No-Scent" was the greatest thing since...well, since I started hunting because I never had a regimine! The point is, most of us evolve our tactics and techniques as we learn and put more notches on our belts. I loved the Primos Can when it first hit it town and I made sure to let everyone know about it too...

I choose to tell everyone about it because I am self-taught. I learned basic woodsman skills as a young child. My father showed me how to walk quietly, to sit still, to scan the woods slowly, and to be safe. But I learned the rest on my own. So I take every chance I get to pass on the information that I find useful because I sure as Hell could have used a place like this when I was 17 years old. And I will still be able to use this place when I'm 57 years old because I will never be done learning or evolving my tactics and techniques...

[OLDHAT]

1023 & Hiller:


Nah, not to hit you guys but I do think you guys are fairly amusing from time to time.

I guess the "hit" would be at the younger generation that weened themselves on TV in how to hunt. I mean all you young guys want to be "Buckmasters". I mean it's really not hunting to a lot of the young guys if there is not a CAMERA, Products to help in your short-comings, sending text messages from the tree stand, buying the latest products to help assist you, hunting over food-plots, etc.

Now since you changed the subject to you, I will say this: I think the day you get rid of the camera, the cell-phone text messaging, the "Live from the tree", the scent-smoke, the other gadgets, then at that point you will truely join the ranks with other hunters and potentially take "deuce", but until then you are trying to hunt and glorify it with a video cameras and gadgets, you never give yourself any respect for hunting, you give it to gadgets and products. The day you can say that you don't need all of these products and simply learn to hunt without them is the day you and a lot of other young guys will see the light.

For the most part you guys killed a doe, of which most could do every day they get on a stand or hunt. Now to try and act like it is that great of an achievement solely due to a product then you are gonna get laughed at, sure most will not be as forward as me with my laughing, but hey, I am me and enjoy it.

But with all of this said, I know that you younger guys go about hunting in a different manner and have to prop yourselves up with these gadget, it's fine if they give you confidence, but at the end of the day you have to look at yourself and say "How good is this stuff" and "Can I get by without it" and you also have to logically deduct if the product really was the sole reason for you harvesting a deer. Anytime folks take a deer out of a food-plot and then try and glorify a product it is laughable at best.

Now I have no problem with you guys and the gadgets, but be fore-warned that I am gonna laugh at you in your face when you use them! Just as you will post how great they are, I will post my laugh.

Oldhat

[Big H]

1023 & Hiller:


Nah, not to hit you guys but I do think you guys are fairly amusing from time to time.

I guess the "hit" would be at the younger generation that weened themselves on TV in how to hunt. I mean all you young guys want to be "Buckmasters". I mean it's really not hunting to a lot of the young guys if there is not a CAMERA, Products to help in your short-comings, sending text messages from the tree stand, buying the latest products to help assist you, hunting over food-plots, etc.

Now since you changed the subject to you, I will say this: I think the day you get rid of the camera, the cell-phone text messaging, the "Live from the tree", the scent-smoke, the other gadgets, then at that point you will truely join the ranks with other hunters and potentially take "deuce", but until then you are trying to hunt and glorify it with a video cameras and gadgets, you never give yourself any respect for hunting, you give it to gadgets and products. The day you can say that you don't need all of these products and simply learn to hunt without them is the day you and a lot of other young guys will see the light.

For the most part you guys killed a doe, of which most could do every day they get on a stand or hunt. Now to try and act like it is that great of an achievement solely due to a product then you are gonna get laughed at, sure most will not be as forward as me with my laughing, but hey, I am me and enjoy it.

But with all of this said, I know that you younger guys go about hunting in a different manner and have to prop yourselves up with these gadget, it's fine if they give you confidence, but at the end of the day you have to look at yourself and say "How good is this stuff" and "Can I get by without it" and you also have to logically deduct if the product really was the sole reason for you harvesting a deer. Anytime folks take a deer out of a food-plot and then try and glorify a product it is laughable at best.

Now I have no problem with you guys and the gadgets, but be fore-warned that I am gonna laugh at you in your face when you use them! Just as you will post how great they are, I will post my laugh.

Oldhat


LOL

[OLDHAT]

Oh, in other news:

Tip tells me that a 236" non-typical was taken off Wayne National Forest. Mike Dickess of Ironton supposedly green scored it. Was a crossbow kill on Public land......Public land where I tried to guide NCBowman from this site to hunt here in Ohio.

Will get back on any details that come in.

Oldhat

[Big H]

Oh, in other news:

Tip tells me that a 236" non-typical was taken off Wayne National Forest. Mike Dickess of Ironton supposedly green scored it. Was a crossbow kill on Public land......Public land where I tried to guide NCBowman from this site to hunt here in Ohio.

Will get back on any details that come in.

Oldhat


Be sure to let us know if he was using Skoal or Cope, and if he was "smoked" up.

[rgecko23]

Oh boy, this going to get ugly.....

[Chris Bowles]

:confused: ok im 15 and i get winded once and a while does this realy work??? becuase im about to go have my brother go buy some for me????? does it really work???????

[deerhunt45]

:confused: ok im 15 and i get winded once and a while does this realy work??? becuase im about to go have my brother go buy some for me????? does it really work???????

Chris, the author of this thread is being sarcastic. He stated that in the original post. I do not recommend you start dipping snuff.

[Hiller]

Well oldhat then I want to see you chuck the new compound you bought and hunt with a stick and string... your the biggest hypocrit of them all... while it is "easy" to kill a doe... a mature doe is not going to just meander outinto a field and give herself up if she thinks something is wrong... go ahead and continue to laugh at me... I could care less... I have killed 23 deer without the scent smoker, just figured I would try it and see if it works... from my experience it has some value...

Don't pat yourself on the back too much, your no better than the next guy, your good at quoting stuff and letting your head swell... but other than that there is no use for your meaningless banter...

Your first post was fine, I could see you were joking, but you had to dig deeper and push buttons on something you are clueless about...

It's funny how pissed you get at people who use something that you have never used, but you never cease to try and degrade them...

Mike Rex, I guess you can join the ranks of us as well... since Oldhat said so...

[Hiller]

:confused: ok im 15 and i get winded once and a while does this realy work??? becuase im about to go have my brother go buy some for me????? does it really work???????

LOL....I heard the scent of junk mail and stamps really lures them in too...

[OLDHAT]

Thanks 45....in more ways then 1.

Oldhat

[OLDHAT]

Hiller:

Nah, I don't get pissed...hell I'm an easy going guy. I do however think it is fun.

Oh, and the new bow....yeah, I hadn't plan on buying one in another 3 years or so, I would have much rather saved my $1,000.00 and hunted with the old one.

Oldhat

[Hoytmania]

Man I don't like the idea of getting cancer from my scent cover. If it works for you thats great but I'll pass.

[OLDHAT]

Man I don't like the idea of getting cancer from my scent cover. If it works for you thats great but I'll pass.

The Surgeon General warns that smoking is bad for your health.

[Hiller]

Hiller:

Nah, I don't get pissed...hell I'm an easy going guy. I do however think it is fun.

Oh, and the new bow....yeah, I hadn't plan on buying one in another 3 years or so, I would have much rather saved my $1,000.00 and hunted with the old one.

Oldhat


Yeah I'm sorry, you really don't get pissed, wrong wording... you come up with some ignorant remark or response to try and belittle everyone who hunts differently than you.... oh great one, then please show me all your OBBC qualifiers... obviously everything I'm doing is wrong in your eyes... still somehow I seem to tag out every year.... actually every year since 1998... but that means nothing to you...

I will tell you this, you assume I use everysingle gadget on the market... When I head to the woods I have a backpack with a knife, flashlights, tag, and maybe a set of binos in it.... Thats all I take... I did "smoke" up a couple of times this year, and out of anyone I was the biggest skeptic, but it works... you wanna rub bacon grease and a big mac all over you before you go out, then that is fine, you don't hear me complainin about the way you hunt now do you... oh and I think we're pretty even on the bows now, you gotta a brand new one right?

Until you start showing me monster buck year in and year out, then your holier than thou opinions mean nothing to me... you are after all the self proclaimed trophy hunter...

Like I said it never ceases to amaze me how single minded you are, about new or different products... Fact is there are many great products out there, you haven't used them but you still have an opinion on them... how ironic...

[OLDHAT]

Hiller:

No need to get pissed!

That was a big doe, uglier than sin, but a big one!

Oldhat

[Big H]

:grouphug:

[MagnumMudMan]

I've heard that chew spit from Redman will repair split Martin bow limbs also. Just what I heard though. No real experience with that though.

I use my scent smoker. In fact, I like to light it with all of the junk mail that I get. It's worthless garbage anyway and whoever sends it out is also worthless garbage, but it does light a nice fire in the smoker, so I stand corrected, its not TOTALLY worthless :nono:

[Buckmaster]

Looks like the Trash Talk thread moved over here. :yikes: Good luck Oldhat with the Junior prom king and queen, Hiller and Huntingboy90210. It looks like you've got their panties twisted up a bit. :tsk:

I've been using the "No Scent" method the past 3-4 years and I never see deer. :shhh: Baking soda is cheap. :shhh:

[bowhunter1023]

1023 & Hiller:


Nah, not to hit you guys but I do think you guys are fairly amusing from time to time.

I guess the "hit" would be at the younger generation that weened themselves on TV in how to hunt. I mean all you young guys want to be "Buckmasters". I mean it's really not hunting to a lot of the young guys if there is not a CAMERA, Products to help in your short-comings, sending text messages from the tree stand, buying the latest products to help assist you, hunting over food-plots, etc.

Now since you changed the subject to you, I will say this: I think the day you get rid of the camera, the cell-phone text messaging, the "Live from the tree", the scent-smoke, the other gadgets, then at that point you will truely join the ranks with other hunters and potentially take "deuce", but until then you are trying to hunt and glorify it with a video cameras and gadgets, you never give yourself any respect for hunting, you give it to gadgets and products. The day you can say that you don't need all of these products and simply learn to hunt without them is the day you and a lot of other young guys will see the light.

For the most part you guys killed a doe, of which most could do every day they get on a stand or hunt. Now to try and act like it is that great of an achievement solely due to a product then you are gonna get laughed at, sure most will not be as forward as me with my laughing, but hey, I am me and enjoy it.

But with all of this said, I know that you younger guys go about hunting in a different manner and have to prop yourselves up with these gadget, it's fine if they give you confidence, but at the end of the day you have to look at yourself and say "How good is this stuff" and "Can I get by without it" and you also have to logically deduct if the product really was the sole reason for you harvesting a deer. Anytime folks take a deer out of a food-plot and then try and glorify a product it is laughable at best.

Now I have no problem with you guys and the gadgets, but be fore-warned that I am gonna laugh at you in your face when you use them! Just as you will post how great they are, I will post my laugh.

Oldhat

Wow! I'm not sure what to say about that collection of pompous BS. I know a few things come to mind, but I know Charlie would not appreciate it and I’m not going to show my ass…

Jesse, you talk an amazing game. I think you might be the best regurgitater of information I have ever seen on a forum. Maybe you do have an impressive, hard-earned trophy wall. But that gives you no reason to treat “us kids” like a sub-species. You too, were a kid a one point. You say that we are “fairly assuming” and then you go on to say that all us young guys want to be “Buckmasters”. (I happen to think Jackie Bushman is a joke for all that matters.) Quite the assumption eh?

I see no point in even engaging in an exchange with you any longer. You already proved to me what I have always suspected…

[Buckmaster]

My crystal ball tells me, Oldhat won't be included on -90210's Xmas list this year. He will be included on -90210's ignore list. :whistle:

[Yoxford]

Last time out I sat downwind of a guy's barbeque grill. A doe came in downwind of me and she didn't spook. She checked the wind alright, maybe to see if it was someone she knew? I believe I'll give Lee and Perron's a try as a cover scent.

[Hiller]

I can almost guarantee we won't see any more from Oldhat on this thread... he dishes it out, then runs and hides once us young guys call him out...

What are you oldshat about, 9 -10 years older than me, can't wait till I'm in my 30's then I will have reached enlightenment...

[Big H]

This is a funny thread ...... hey yoxford, were you hunting when you had the doe downwind or drinking?

[Hiller]

Hey Big,

Went at lunch and picked up two packs of slick tricks... Gonna try and get out tonight, when I was out at lunch it looked perfect for an evening hunt..

[OLDHAT]

Hiller:

Don't guarantee squat

1023:

Ok, you want to be a slunger hollow guy.


I still think it simply amazing that you 1023 glorify hunting by what you have seen on TV shows and your hunting style and actions are just like a Video you may buy at Walmart.

Hiller I think you are a pretty good hunter (no sarcasm). 1023 I think you are likewise, but with you you have the TV idea in mind. As mentioned you seem to think that is what it is all about, at least that is my perspective on things. I mean I am sure those deer that you take and don't have film of it are not as good as the ones you take when you have a camera.

Just a difference in hunting ideas, if you boys can't atke a different perspective, then stay off the thread I started. I mean I am pushing tobbacco and you guys have to come on here regarding scent-smoker. You asked what my motives were and I posted them, as tobacco must really work since I had deer down-wid of me and we all know that according to you that that could never happen when one chooses not to use the scent-smoker. I'm creating the same exact argument over a different product but you guys can't seem to take it?

Oldhat





Oldhat

[Buckmaster]

Better get out there early Hiller. Its going to get dark real quick tonight.

[OLDHAT]

My crystal ball tells me, Oldhat won't be included on -90210's Xmas list this year. He will be included on -90210's ignore list. :whistle:

heheh, I didn't want one anyway, I'm sure it would have been a scent-smoker, Video Camera, or seed for a food plot to hunt over anyway, you know to help my hunting...as we know that's the only way to do it in this day and age, just like the "big time" hunters on TV.

Oldhat

[Yoxford]

This is a funny thread ...... hey yoxford, were you hunting when you had the doe downwind or drinking?

I was hunting, have you ever tried to get a grill and a cooler up in a tree? Climbing back down to turn the steaks over is just impractical.

[OLDHAT]

Mike Rex, I guess you can join the ranks of us as well... since Oldhat said so...

The day Mike Rex posts a picture of his doe and attributes his entire success to scent-smoker is the day I laugh at Mike Rex or anyone for that matter.

Oldhat

[Hiller]

The day Mike Rex posts a picture of his doe and attributes his entire success to scent-smoker is the day I laugh at Mike Rex or anyone for that matter.

Oldhat

Yeah your right, old does aren't wary at all:coco: :coco: .... your motives were pretty clear on this thread... to outright bash people and the things they use... theres no question about that...

Fact is I had a mature doe dead downwind of me... she smelled me, but payed little attention... maybe it was the smoker, maybe not, but this is not the first time myself or others have had this happen...

On top of this your beginning to put words in peoples mouths... ironic how you outright lash out at things you have never tried...

[deerhunt45]

In the immortal words of our #1 poster of all time...

SHUT UP AND HUNT !!! :D

I saw the sarcasm from the git go.

Sarcasm is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony. Sarcasm can also be used in a humorous or jesting way depending on the intent of the person speaking.

I'm surprised anyone took the bait. Really, I am.

[bowhunter1023]

1023:

Ok, you want to be a slunger hollow guy.


Oldhat

I have one deer one video. I am affliated with no one. I have never once asked John or Scott to be on the DVD's. Could I? Sure could. But I suck I videoing. I do it for the added challenge and the hopes that someday, I will have a few hunts to share with my kids and grandkids. Not because I want to be famout. I know that will never happen...

Anything else you would like to speculate on?

[bowhunter1023]

I'm surprised anyone took the bait. Really, I am.

Sometimes it ain't the bait that catches the fish Charlies. Sometimes its the fisherman and in this case, I think there are few of us that would love a chance to jump in the boat with this one...

[Hiller]

In the immortal words of our #1 poster of all time...

SHUT UP AND HUNT !!! :D

I saw the sarcasm from the git go.

Sarcasm is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony. Sarcasm can also be used in a humorous or jesting way depending on the intent of the person speaking.

I'm surprised anyone took the bait. Really, I am.


Charlie,

It's pretty clear of what his motives are... same as always, to rip down the way other guys hunt and try to make a mockery of it at the same time... notice I didn't reply until he began doing this....

[OLDHAT]

In the immortal words of our #1 poster of all time...

SHUT UP AND HUNT !!! :D



From another poster:

SHUT UP AND HUNT- With a chew of Copenhagen.

Deerhunt 45:

Yeah I knew I'd get them a little mad. Scent-control helps, but is not the big deal that most think it is, sure you should be concerned about some level of scent control, but to think it is the ultimate end-all to not being successful is a joke at best.

We live in what is a "shake and stir" society, most will try anything and everything to get instant gratification. Once this gratification occurs then they have to attribute it to something verses simply being a good hunter as that could never happen, it has to be some product that helped them, when all in all they may just realize that they are getting better at hunting.

Simply because a deer is down wind doesn't mean it's gonna bust you. As you all talk about the wind "swirls" so much, so who is to say that the wind was even towards the deer, you cast all of these ideas aside and say "Product X" can be the only reason that I was successful and then it is passed onto others as some form of validation or truth.

Now some can say "man I think this may help" but to say "Chalk another up for Scent-smoker" (paraphrase) then how about all thse other pictures of guys taking deer, did htey say "Chalk another up for not using scent-smoker" or Chalk One up for Realtree Camo", nope most say "Hey I took a deer". They don't need to list their arsenal of what they were using, most of the "younger guys" have to post everything they used, bow type, braodheads, cover scent, arrows, tree-stands, grunt calls, etc when they take a deer. It's a deer and it's dead, if I would have been setting in that same tree-stand in my whitey tighties I would have probably taken that deer with a completely different set of gear...but you know what, I ain't gonna post any of my gear and give credit to a single product as the "end-all"...as a matter of fact you won't find me pushing any products.

So for those of you younger guys, learn how to hunt, don't put band-aids on things, you don't need all these gizmos' and gadgets to take deer nor do you need them!

Oldhat

[Hiller]

From another poster:

SHUT UP AND HUNT- With a chew of Copenhagen.

Deerhunt 45:

Yeah I knew I'd get them a little mad. Scent-control helps, but is not the big deal that most think it is, sure you should be concerned about some level of scent control, but to think it is the ultimate end-all to not being successful is a joke at best.

We live in what is a "shake and stir" society, most will try anything and everything to get instant gratification. Once this gratification occurs then they have to attribute it to something verses simply being a good hunter as that could never happen, it has to be some product that helped them, when all in all they may just realize that they are getting better at hunting.

Simply because a deer is down wind doesn't mean it's gonna bust you. As you all talk about the wind "swirls" so much, so who is to say that the wind was even towards the deer, you cast all of these ideas aside and say "Product X" can be the only reason that I was successful and then it is passed onto others as some form of validation or truth.

Now some can say "man I think this may help" but to say "Chalk another up for Scent-smoker" (paraphrase) then how about all thse other pictures of guys taking deer, did htey say "Chalk another up for not using scent-smoker" or Chalk One up for Realtree Camo", nope most say "Hey I took a deer". They don't need to list their arsenal of what they were using, most of the "younger guys" have to post everything they used, bow type, braodheads, cover scent, arrows, tree-stands, grunt calls, etc when they take a deer. It's a deer and it's dead, if I would have been setting in that same tree-stand in my whitey tighties I would have probably taken that deer with a completely different set of gear...but you know what, I ain't gonna post any of my gear and give credit to a single product as the "end-all"...as a matter of fact you won't find me pushing any products.

So for those of you younger guys, learn how to hunt, don't put band-aids on things, you don't need all these gizmos' and gadgets to take deer nor do you need them!

Oldhat

Then chuck your new fangled compound in the river... I just love how you refer to us as young guys, one would think your 65 years old the way you talk...

I tried the smoker cause I heard it worked... it definetly doesn't have an ill effects...

[deerhunt45]

Charlie,

It's pretty clear of what his motives are... same as always, to rip down the way other guys hunt and try to make a mockery of it at the same time... notice I didn't reply until he began doing this....

It was sarcasm Hiller! IMO, it was humorous. Motives, smotives...you really think he cares how other guys hunt?!?! You chimed in right after 1023. I didn't see where he bashed anybody or any method. He said to hell with Scentlok, should I be offended :whistle:

Now lets all go have a cold beer :D

[Kaiser878]

Oldhat, just outta curiosity do you shoot fingers or with a release?? WHat type of broadheads do you use?

[bowhunter1023]

Now some can say "man I think this may help" but to say "Chalk another up for Scent-smoker" (paraphrase) then how about all thse other pictures of guys taking deer, did htey say "Chalk another up for not using scent-smoker" or Chalk One up for Realtree Camo", nope most say "Hey I took a deer". They don't need to list their arsenal of what they were using, most of the "younger guys" have to post everything they used, bow type, braodheads, cover scent, arrows, tree-stands, grunt calls, etc when they take a deer. It's a deer and it's dead, if I would have been setting in that same tree-stand in my whitey tighties I would have probably taken that deer with a completely different set of gear...but you know what, I ain't gonna post any of my gear and give credit to a single product as the "end-all"...as a matter of fact you won't find me pushing any products.



And you know the irony in all of this? I entitled that thread that way just to chap your ass because I knew it would. You have showed your cards much as I have. I know exactly why I shot that doe. The smoke just helped seal the deal. But I was in the right tree, in the right spot. Just on the wrong wind. I had a shitzzle eating grin on my face when I posted that thread...

[deerhunt45]

From another poster:

SHUT UP AND HUNT- With a chew of Copenhagen.

Deerhunt 45:

Yeah I knew I'd get them a little mad. Scent-control helps, but is not the big deal that most think it is, sure you should be concerned about some level of scent control, but to think it is the ultimate end-all to not being successful is a joke at best.

We live in what is a "shake and stir" society, most will try anything and everything to get instant gratification. Once this gratification occurs then they have to attribute it to something verses simply being a good hunter as that could never happen, it has to be some product that helped them, when all in all they may just realize that they are getting better at hunting.

Simply because a deer is down wind doesn't mean it's gonna bust you. As you all talk about the wind "swirls" so much, so who is to say that the wind was even towards the deer, you cast all of these ideas aside and say "Product X" can be the only reason that I was successful and then it is passed onto others as some form of validation or truth.

Now some can say "man I think this may help" but to say "Chalk another up for Scent-smoker" (paraphrase) then how about all thse other pictures of guys taking deer, did htey say "Chalk another up for not using scent-smoker" or Chalk One up for Realtree Camo", nope most say "Hey I took a deer". They don't need to list their arsenal of what they were using, most of the "younger guys" have to post everything they used, bow type, braodheads, cover scent, arrows, tree-stands, grunt calls, etc when they take a deer. It's a deer and it's dead, if I would have been setting in that same tree-stand in my whitey tighties I would have probably taken that deer with a completely different set of gear...but you know what, I ain't gonna post any of my gear and give credit to a single product as the "end-all"...as a matter of fact you won't find me pushing any products.

So for those of you younger guys, learn how to hunt, don't put band-aids on things, you don't need all these gizmos' and gadgets to take deer nor do you need them!

Oldhat

I really prefer the Hanes boxer briefs to regular ole tighty whities. They help me to sit comfortably in my tree stand and have helped me be more successful :D

[Hiller]

It was sarcasm Hiller! IMO, it was humorous. Motives, smotives...you really think he cares how other guys hunt?!?! You chimed in right after 1023. I didn't see where he bashed anybody or any method. He said to hell with Scentlok, should I be offended :whistle:

Now lets all go have a cold beer :D

Seems the post disappeared where it was pretty clear what was going on... He obviously cares how we "young" guys hunt... I could crap money and he'd tell me I was doing it wrong...

Some day I will reach full knowledge such as Oldhat when I'm at the late age of 30

[deerhunt45]

Seems the post disappeared where it was pretty clear what was going on... He obviously cares how we "young" guys hunt... I could crap money and he'd tell me I was doing it wrong...

Some day I will reach full knowledge such as Oldhat when I'm at the late age of 30

Well, I didn't remove any posts if that's what you're implying...:16suspect1:

[MagnumMudMan]

...as a matter of fact you won't find me pushing any products.



Well, except your old perfect Martin bow.


Cover your ears boys and girls............................................. .................................................. .......................................


CABOOM!:dizzy: :dizzy:

[Hiller]

Well, I didn't remove any posts if that's what you're implying...:16suspect1:

Wasn't implying that, just seems that post is gone... it really doesn't matter.... I'll go out and use my gadgets and kill deer... Oldshat can lather himself and tip up in 12 day old bacon grease... if it works it works, I'm not the one that will critisize

[bowhunter1023]

Wasn't implying that, just seems that post is gone... it really doesn't matter.... I'll go out and use my gadgets and kill deer... Oldshat can lather himself and tip up in 12 day old bacon grease... if it works it works, I'm not the one that will critisize

If that works, I know a few fellers that will be on that train in a hurry! :yikes:

[MagnumMudMan]

If that works, I know a few fellers that will be on that train in a hurry! :yikes:

Heartlunger sweats bacon grease, so he should be good to go!

[Buckmaster]

Anything else you would like to speculate on?

Pink or Purple? Hanes Her Way or Victoria Secret?

[rgecko23]

Seems the post disappeared where it was pretty clear what was going on... He obviously cares how we "young" guys hunt... I could crap money and he'd tell me I was doing it wrong...

Some day I will reach full knowledge such as Oldhat when I'm at the late age of 30


Someone told me if you walk like a duck a quack alot, dollar bills will come out your butt...........

[HeartLunger]

Heartlunger sweats bacon grease, so he should be good to go!


Here I was, just lurking and minding my own business. You had to pull me into this; didn't you?

Look for your very own special post coming soon in a Sound Off Forum near you.

[OLDHAT]

Oldhat, just outta curiosity do you shoot fingers or with a release?? WHat type of broadheads do you use?

I do shoot a release....I fought going to one forever, I finally had to give in once the bows on the market got so short. Even my quest for a new bow this year I asked if there were any finger shooting bows on the market to 2 different bow dealers both did not say the exact same thing but replied something to the tune of "Yes but you are going to pay out the ass for them as they will need to be special ordered". So I had to buy something that was in front of me, which in this day and age they require a release. I personally shot much better with fingers, everything would fall into place better for me with fingers.

I shoot thunder head 125's, started shooting them in 1991 ( I may be off a year or so there, just from memory I think that's when I started using them)...they were never "broke" so I see no reason to change from them.


Oldhat

[wallydog1]

if I would have been setting in that same tree-stand in my whitey tighties I would have probably taken that deer with a completely different set of gear...but you know what, I ain't gonna post any of my gear and give credit to a single product as the "end-all"...as a matter of fact you won't find me pushing any products.
Oldhat

I bet you use these oldhat,but don't want to give them any credit while they are in the bargin cave, :whistle: ;) Don't think they can with stand 10 bean soup tho.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0047423901467a&navCount=0&podId=0047423&parentId=cat350004&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat21404-cat21414-cat350004&catalogCode=OG&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat350004&hasJS=true

[OLDHAT]

Be sure to let us know if he was using Skoal or Cope, and if he was "smoked" up.

We'll find out as I have now heard that North American Whitetail is coming down to do a get-up on the deer.

Oldhat

[OLDHAT]

I bet you use these oldhat,but don't want to give them any credit while they are in the bargin cave, :whistle: ;) Don't think they can with stand 10 bean soup tho.

I think these would be great for the younger generation cause lord knows they get a wet spot in their whitey tighties when they kill a doe. Is that what the cover scent is for to cover this up?

Hhehe, speaking of 10 bean soup Wally....I made the mistake of wearing a light rain gear on the stand due to supposed rain that day....that smell doesn't escape rain-gear that well....man, it just all funnelled up through the neck of the outfit. Oh, did I mention that there was spicey cabossa (spelling?) also in the 10 bean soup?

Oldhat

[Winter Hawk]

I have been bowhunting since the age of 12, which just happened to be in 1972 for me. I never had access to the internet, hell........Al Gore hadn't even invented it yet :yikes: . I never had anyone to teach me anything, other than a basic, bowhunter and hunter education course. The internet is such a valuable source of information that sometimes I can't believe that society ever existed without it.

With that being said, I learn each and every time that I take myself into God's wonderful creation. I have made mistakes, discoveries, and was even able to admit it to both myself and other people. That my friends, is how we learn. I read and try to understand where people are coming from, and have been known from time to time to even put myself in the shoes of another person. I draw my own conclusions, don't allow other people to do my thinking for me, as I would rather do it for myself. In doing so, once again, I have LEARNED from the mistakes I have made as well as from the discoveries I have made.

This same opportunity is available to each and every one of us. The only downfall to doing our own thinking and drawing our own conclusions is that if we are wrong.........well.........we don't have anyone to blame but ourselves. THAT seems to be a problem with some people now-a-days. If a person chooses to go through their life letting others do their thinking for them, not drawing any conclusions for themselves, THIS gives them the opportunity (when the time comes) to blame SOMEONE ELSE for its failure.

Bottom line is this..........keep an open mind, do your own investigation of the "pro's and con's".......make up your mind for YOURSELF. When you do this.......it doesn't mean shitzl.....what anyone else thinks.

What really "frosts my gonads" is when some people have done their own thinking, drew their own conclusions from the FACTS that they have been witness to.......and someone comes along and "stirs ****", just to see if they can get a reaction. I, most generally, don't get involved with such things because in reality, some people really feed off of the attention. I, myself don't really care if anyone ever even notices that I am around. I'm not shy, but if I don't have anything positive to say, or if it doesn't relate to the topic at hand......I just keep my mouth shut. You see, I believe that God gave you two ears, and only one mouth for one reason.....to do twice as much listening as talking.

I am quite sure that I am not the oldest person on here, but I am far from the youngest. I also, am not afraid to listen to people that are young enough to be my children either. I will continue to read, listen, and learn from these "younger fellers"........and aint afraid to admit it.

Jesse, I very rarely, (until lately) have commented on any of your threads, or any of the other new generation of hunters threads. Perhaps this has been a mistake on my part, because I have sure as hell learned a lot from several of you. You and several others, have their priorities, and hearts in the right place. YOU and THEM......are fine representatives of our sport, and would be welcome to sit at my campfire anytime.

I wish that when I was your age, that I had the ambition and drive that some of you possess. Sometimes, when I read posts on here, I can smell something burning......nope, it aint my brain either.......it is the desire that can be read in written words. Don't let anyone stop you from being the exact people that you are. I can tell you this, you were raised very well, and sometime when you "younguns" are talking to your parents, you really ought to thank them for helping mold the fine young men that you have become.

Keep postin' guys........I've got lots of room left in my 48 year old brain to continue to learn from ya.

Winter Hawk

[wallydog1]

I think these would be great for the younger generation cause lord knows they get a wet spot in their whitey tighties when they kill a doe. Is that what the cover scent is for to cover this up?

Hhehe, speaking of 10 bean soup Wally....I made the mistake of wearing a light rain gear on the stand due to supposed rain that day....that smell doesn't escape rain-gear that well....man, it just all funnelled up through the neck of the outfit. Oh, did I mention that there was spicey cabossa (spelling?) also in the 10 bean soup?

Oldhat

For the younger gen
Mom might be able to get the wet spot out ,but I bet she ain't to happy with the stain :yikes: Yes I know what you mean about rain gear,Never let one loose in the suit,you will gas your self :p

[bowhunter1023]

You see, I believe that God gave you two ears, and only one mouth for one reason.....to do twice as much listening as talking.


O, how true that is! Same some people can't figure that out...

It is easy for me to be vocal on here because I don't have to wait my turn. If you were to assemble the finest minds from the site around a campe fire, I would have the least to say. (Assuming I'm not drinking :biggrin: ) I like to learn more than I like to teach. My days to teach will come. I would rather soak up what I can from the "old school" now while I still can. Just cause I am a gadget guy, does not mean I don't want to learn from the "old timers".

I plan on enduring my first ever "Traditional January" this year. Why would I do that if I was all about the gadgets, the fame, and the "Buckmaster Way"? I plan on hunting off the ground, with a stick bow, in untraditional camo so I can become a better hunter in November when I employ all my gadgets. No amount of gadgets will make up for a lack in woodmanship. I desire to become a true woodsman and I feel like Traditional Archery will take me down that road...

[Winter Hawk]

I desire to become a true woodsman and I feel like Traditional Archery will take me down that road...

I would say that it is truly......."The Road Less Traveled".....in today's society. So much to learn, so little time.

Winter Hawk

[OLDHAT]

Originally Posted by Winter Hawk:
You see, I believe that God gave you two ears, and only one mouth for one reason.....to do twice as much listening as talking.
Posted By 1023:
O, how true that is! Same some people can't figure that out...

By the averages you talk nearly 3 times more than me...just stating a fact.

Oldhat

[Big H]

O, how true that is! Same some people can't figure that out...


I plan on enduring my first ever "Traditional January" this year. Why would I do that if I was all about the gadgets, the fame, and the "Buckmaster Way"? ...

Why do you have to pick on BuckMaster now? He hasn't said much in this thread.

Hiller let me know how those ST's shoot for you.

OldHat, did you mean kielbasa?

:whistle:

[bowhunter1023]

By the averages you talk nearly 3 times more than me...just stating a fact.

Oldhat

Perhaps you should refer back to my post about how vocal I am on here. And I read/listen much more than I write because I read what everyone has to say here whether I agree with it or not. I have a saying that goes like this: "Even if the only thing I learn from you is what not to do, I still learned something." I learn a lot from you...

[Big H]

Perhaps you should refer back to my post about how vocal I am on here. And I read/listen much more than I write because I read what everyone has to say here whether I agree with it or not. I have a saying that goes like this: "Even if the only thing I learn from you is what not to do, I still learned something." I learn a lot from you...

OUCH!!!! Nice one there 1023.

[Azzy]

Maybe it's just me....but is there really anyone who cares what OH says?

I mean c'mon.....you have to take him at face value. He's a putz and a ***** stirring troll.

Nobody else knew this? Hmm. :16suspect1:

[Milo]

I do shoot a release....I fought going to one forever, I finally had to give in once the bows on the market got so short. Even my quest for a new bow this year I asked if there were any finger shooting bows on the market to 2 different bow dealers both did not say the exact same thing but replied something to the tune of "Yes but you are going to pay out the ass for them as they will need to be special ordered". So I had to buy something that was in front of me, which in this day and age they require a release. I personally shot much better with fingers, everything would fall into place better for me with fingers.

I shoot thunder head 125's, started shooting them in 1991 ( I may be off a year or so there, just from memory I think that's when I started using them)...they were never "broke" so I see no reason to change from them.


OldhatThats a bold face lie your proshop guy told you. I shoot fingers and there are plenty of non special order bows.

[bowhunter1023]

Thats a bold face lie your proshop guy told you. I shoot fingers and there are plenty of non special order bows.

Please o please! Just this once to put him in his place, will you unleash the creditionals?!?

[OLDHAT]

Perhaps you should refer back to my post about how vocal I am on here. And I read/listen much more than I write because I read what everyone has to say here whether I agree with it or not. I have a saying that goes like this: "Even if the only thing I learn from you is what not to do, I still learned something." I learn a lot from you...

I have somethign to teach you:

When you decide to put a stalk and hunt on with your trad equipment, do yourself a favor and not come on here with the "Live from the Stalk in my food plot" thread...it kinda looks bad for trad guys to do that.

Oldaht

[Milo]

Please o please! Just this once to put him in his place, will you unleash the creditionals?!?No...

[OLDHAT]

Please o please! Just this once to put him in his place, will you unleash the creditionals?!?



Milo:

That is what I was told. Now is there another motive for them telling me this? I mean in all honesty are they trying to get rid of what they hav ein stock verses ordering something for someone? I was told that I would pay out the ass for it from one shop. The other told me it would be expensive and that woudl take around 5 weeks for delivery....was what I was told.

And 1023, it has nothing to do with me goofball. Just like how you think scent-smoker is the "bomb", who is to believe you when it comes from your flaps? So now I guess you feel I wasn't told that? Take Winter Hawks advice big boy and listen a bit more than you yap!

Oldhat

[bowhunter1023]

I have somethign to teach you:

When you decide to put a stalk and hunt on with your trad equipment, do yourself a favor and not come on here with the "Live from the Stalk in my food plot" thread...it kinda looks bad for trad guys to do that.

Oldaht

More assumptions. You assume I can stalk and text at the same time. I can't. I run into a tree. You assume I would stalk in my food plot. I won't. It would only take 30 seconds. You assume I would take the easy way out even though I made the effort to do things the hard way. I won't. That would defeat the purpose.

What is it about me that chaps your ass so much Jesse? Is it because I have the same name, yet I'm better looking :D? Are you jealous of me for some reason? For someone whole built a successful company from the ground up, no matter you do, you sure seem to have a lot of insecurities. Let’s have it out right here. I figure there are plenty of guys that want to hear what you got to say. Why do have it out for me Jesse?

[bowhunter1023]

And 1023, it has nothing to do with me goofball. Just like how you think scent-smoker is the "bomb", who is to believe you when it comes from your flaps? So now I guess you feel I wasn't told that? Take Winter Hawks advice big boy and listen a bit more than you yap!
Oldhat

I figure there are a few people on this site that would take what I have to say more seriously than something you have to say. Articulation and respect come to mind as reasons why. And I thank Winter Hawk for his great phrase, but I gathered he dropped it more in reference to you and not me. If you develop something original to attack me with, I might take heed...

[MagnumMudMan]

Why do have it out for me Jesse?

Probably the glue from licking all of the junk mail. That stuff is not safe to lick or smoke. :whistle:

[Buckmaster]

You assume I would take the easy way out even though I made the effort to do things the hard way. I won't. That would defeat the purpose.




Sounds like Tred Barta there.

Why don't you guys have it out tonight at the Campfire, say 8pm? We could have quite the draw on a rainy night. Big H will have the popcorn. ;)

[Azzy]

"Why do have it out for me Jesse?"

Because he knows he can get under your skin. That's what trolls do.

Just ignore him, Jesse. He's done nothing but waste your time today while he made money sending out crap mail.

[Milo]

Milo:

That is what I was told. Now is there another motive for them telling me this? I mean in all honesty are they trying to get rid of what they hav ein stock verses ordering something for someone? I was told that I would pay out the ass for it from one shop. The other told me it would be expensive and that woudl take around 5 weeks for delivery....was what I was told.

And 1023, it has nothing to do with me goofball. Just like how you think scent-smoker is the "bomb", who is to believe you when it comes from your flaps? So now I guess you feel I wasn't told that? Take Winter Hawks advice big boy and listen a bit more than you yap!

OldhatHMMMM....good story...good story...a quick search should of turned up multiple bows for you. You do seem to use the internet purty well.....:whistle:

[OLDHAT]

1023:

You don't "chap my ass" I started a thread and you butted in assuming it was about you. It was about "everyone" and the need for everyone to look at the gimicks that are put in front of them. It was a thread about some of the guys that have to post everything that they used on a hunt to take a deer. It was an "anti" gadget post. It was a post for those to step back and think about "trinkets" and trash items they use to hunt with. It was a post about "blindness" in endorsing products and how the younger generation gets all wrapped up in it. You and Hiller decided to chime in, I know that the two of you are sensitive (Metro-males maybe?) but I was doing just fine in this thread but the 2 of you assumed that it was about you.

I could careless about how you hunt or what you hunt. I do care a bit about the younger guys getting caught up in the "tv" hunts and trying to emulate the things that you see on tv shows. Now I never mentioned you or Hiller but you two automatically assumed it was about you...sounds like insecurity on a larger level there! So you chimmed in obviously because you felt left-out and I gave you what I thought about you...plain and simple.

I see you rolled out a new scent-smoker thread...damn sorry for crapping on your article.

Then you try to entice Milo into busting my chops over something that was told to me?...who actually has something against another here?

Hiller is a bit sensitive from time-to-time, you seem to be likewise. I have no ill feelings against either of you, but when I play the devil's advocate you guys get pissed. Even a 25 year old chimmed in about getting his brother to buy him tobacco.....go figure.

Oldhat

[bowhunter1023]

"Don't shoot! I'm innocent..."

Come one Jesse, you know you had a smile on your face the whole time you wrote that. You cannot expect me to think that my post did not generate your thread and that part of the reason you had for posting it was to get my goat. I don't think I'm the only one that sees it that way. That is why I had to chime in. That's what I do. I talk too much as listen too little. That's what I learned from you today...

I don't think I have to make the old reference regarding the first three letters in assumption. But you sure do have a lot of them about Hiller and me. Maybe we are tired of the "old timers" busting our asses about the choices me make in the woods and with our equipment. Do I need to reiterate my stance on people attacking others for their choices in this sport? That is the one trigger that gets me going and you know by now.

Did you consider making a real post about how you felt about the commercialization of hunting and the constant pimping of the gadgetry instead of making a smartass one? Perhaps that one would have been greeting with the respect that all well thought out and articulated threads should be. Just a thought…

You didn’t crap on my article. It will serve its purpose with, or without your crap…

I did not have to entice Milo to do nothing. I would just love to see him tell you how it is and I know he has forgotten more about shooting fingers than most of us will ever know about shooting with a release.

[OLDHAT]

HMMMM....good story...good story...a quick search should of turned up multiple bows for you. You do seem to use the internet purty well.....:whistle:

Hey Milo, glad to see that there are 3 bow shops that are asses now. One of them told me to do a search on the internet also.

Oldhat

[brock ratcliff]

Most of the short axle bows on the market today can be shot comfortably with fingers due to their design. I.E. Larger cams/wheels, higher brace height, ect. Although it was conventional wisdom ten to fifteen years ago that a longer bow was more forgiving, created less finger pinch and therefore was more comfortable for finger shooters, that is not the case today. Most of today's short bows are a dream for finger shooters, particularly those with 65% let off or less.

This is something you need to find out for yourself OLDHAT, by actually shooting and investigating for yourself......which is obviously not your strongest attribute. I don't understand why you would want to use a "gadget" (release) just because someone at a bow shop told you it was needed for short axle bows.

[OLDHAT]

This is something you need to find out for yourself OLDHAT, by actually shooting and investigating for yourself......which is obviously not your strongest attribute.


Hey, this is a no smoking thread.....well wait I thought you were the Marlboro man...your really not that famous after-all....my bad I guess the smoke has got me a bit disoriented and confused.

Isn't it a really odd coincidence that you showed up Brock to get your $0.02of wood chips worth?

Oldhat

[Milo]

Hey Milo, glad to see that there are 3 bow shops that are asses now. One of them told me to do a search on the internet also.

Oldhat

Well If you need help I am willing to lend a hand. These new bows are "smokin". :mischeif: I'm no proshop but I sure know when I'm being fed a line of bull*****...I pretty full right now:yikes:

[Big H]

So, should I be getting the popcorn ready for the Campfire or not?????:confused: :confused: :confused:

[bowhunter1023]

Nope. I left the ball in OLDHAT's PM court...

I'm taking the wife out to eat. She's having a bad time this week. Figure I outta tend to that situation first...

[OLDHAT]

Does the camp fire feature even work on here? I tried checking it out several times befoere with no luck.

8:00 is not that great of a time, Bill Oreilly is on then, Momma and the kids will let me have either the tv or the computer, but not both at the same time so there may be a problem.

Oldhat

[Buckmaster]

Yes, Oldhat, the campfire feature works on here. It would pose the ideal spot for your debate. We had one last night for the Presidential Campaign. Why not one here?

90210's burning the candle at both ends while his panties are all bunched up. Looks like its time for the iron.

[swantucky]

The day Mike Rex posts a picture of his doe and attributes his entire success to scent-smoker is the day I laugh at Mike Rex or anyone for that matter.

Oldhat

You know what oldscat why don't you play a quick game of hide and go screw yourself!! I had alot of respect for you untill this thread. You have always been a smartazz and I liked that. But you have called out some very good hunters IMO and that is uncalled for. Two of which are very giving people. I see how you have bragged about how great your junk mail business has gone so you can play golf and hunt, what have you given back?? I have yet to see you post how you and your butt buddy "tip" haven taken a youth out to hunt. Too busy proving youselves I guess.

You can play your bs games but I for one am dissapointed in you. I'll probably punch your buddy Ray in the face next time I see him, and he can pass it on.

There is a thread for smack and this ain't it. I feel sorry for you and what a sorry life you must lead to deliberatly run down two "pay it forward" guys like you have tonight.

Sorry to the rest of you but it had to be said.:)

[swantucky]

You know what oldscat why don't you play a quick game of hide and go screw yourself!! I had alot of respect for you untill this thread. You have always been a smartazz and I liked that. But you have called out some very good hunters IMO and that is uncalled for. Two of which are very giving people. I see how you have bragged about how great your junk mail business has gone so you can play golf and hunt, what have you given back?? I have yet to see you post how you and your butt buddy "tip" haven taken a youth out to hunt. Too busy proving youselves I guess.

You can play your bs games but I for one am dissapointed in you. I'll probably punch your buddy Ray in the face next time I see him, and he can pass it on.

There is a thread for smack and this ain't it. I feel sorry for you and what a sorry life you must lead to deliberatly run down two "pay it forward" guys like you have tonight.

Sorry to the rest of you but it had to be said.:)

Per pm's I respectfully delete this post.

[TIP]

Swantucky
I Have A Problem With You Calling Me Somebody's Butt Buddie.
I Have Never Ever Said Anything Bad About Anybody On Here .
You Best Keep My Name Out Of Your Pissing Contest.

[Hiller]

Oldhat, you can play dumb and blame this thread on Jesse and I, or you can read what you wrote... you obviously had an agenda of trying to make an ass out of other guys... much like what you always do...

You can laugh at me all you want... but when I read some of the hypocitical things you do, I always end with the last laugh...

And TIP, oldhats' already claimed you as his butt buddy... not sure you can back out of the commitment at this point..:cheeky-smiley-022: :cheeky-smiley-022:

[geezer II]

Well i been usin ground up tires in muh smoker - seems ta work pretty good - the deer around here are use ta squeeling tires and tire smoke - stay tuned for a complete analysis :mischeif:

ps - uhm tryin ta modify muh grunt tube ta make it sound like squeeling tires -

[Azzy]

Yes, Oldhat, the campfire feature works on here. It would pose the ideal spot for your debate. We had one last night for the Presidential Campaign. Why not one here?

90210's burning the candle at both ends while his panties are all bunched up. Looks like its time for the iron.

Are you having fun riding OH's coat tails? Why don't you get your own thread instead of throwing out stupid comments on this one. I hate posers.

[Peppy]

Actually, I'm flattered someone would spend so much time and effort into discrediting a scent elimination tactic that I use.

Must really be on Oldhats mind quite often!! :D

[Azzy]

That seems to be the trend, Peppy. The guys who bash it the most eventually break down and try it.....and then LOVE IT! I was one of those guys....as well as 1023 and MANY others.

It's only a matter of time. Although, he won't tell anybody he tried it. :coco: