our war of terror

[bandit]

i got this from a CB forum


Please justify the War of Aggression on Iraq.

No WMDs.

No connection to terrorism in the US. None.

Iraq was and has never been a threat to the US.

Saddam was OUR GUY in his war against Iran. Look it up.

The US State Department gave him the OK to invade Kuwait. It was called an internal affair. Look it up.

If our fine country was occupied, what would you do?

Now sabers are being rattled at Iran, Dick Cheney has been exposed in his false flag plans to start a war with them. Look it up.

Please inform yourself before you jump on any war bandwagon. That is serious business, will you or yours be on the front line?

[deerhunt45]

You could have left it over there imo...you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine. You could at least try to be original...this is as stale as month old bread :rolleyes:

i got this from a CB forum

Please justify the War of Aggression on Iraq.

No WMDs. That's not entirely true. Saddam used them and on his own country to boot. Traces and manufacturing facilities were found. There's a cache of them somewhere...

No connection to terrorism in the US. None. You don't believe there were terrorists in Iraq? You don't think Saddam was a terrorist as was his two sons?

Iraq was and has never been a threat to the US. Maybe not a threat. Saddam and his Bathists became belligerent and evil to everyone. They would not make good on "arrangements" with the world and the US particularly with the oil. We smacked his hands for Kuwait. Things got worse. There was no way to fight and operate in Afghanistan with him breathing down our necks.

Saddam was OUR GUY in his war against Iran. Look it up. See above. We have been in the mideast for a long long time. We have bought their oil and made the regimes of these countrys very rich. Now, you look this up...how many times in the last two decades have these jihadist regimes attacked or sponsored terrorism and killed innocent people, infidels they call us. How long was the US supposed to sit back and take it? Everybody agrees we needed to be in Afghanistan after 9/11. Saddam was an evil man and his country was going nowhere. Believe it Iraq was about terror. Have you not seen what these people are capable of, provoked or not??? The US played footsies with OBL in the early years too and look what he did to us on our own soil...and he wasn't in control of an entire country like Saddam was!!!

The US State Department gave him the OK to invade Kuwait. It was called an internal affair. Look it up. Saddam and his sons were so full of it they may have believed that...that's why we only smacked his hands then. He continued giving the finger to the US and the world by defrauding them of billions of dollars and committing genocide and murder within his own country. That's not terror???

If our fine country was occupied, what would you do? Our fine country is occupied. There were/are some bad people living here who only want to disrupt our lives and kill us. You think 9/11 was nothing??? We must dispupt this sort of covert terrorism at its core. That's where we are.

Now sabers are being rattled at Iran, Dick Cheney has been exposed in his false flag plans to start a war with them. Look it up. Cheney is a neocon, no argument there...he is doing what he was hired to do when elected. Protect this country. I suppose next you're going to post something about 9/11 was a government conspiracy...:coco: Iran has been rattling their sabers for quite some time and giving the world the finger. Developing nuclear facilities, possibly nuclear weapons and allowing terrorism to be sponsored from within it's borders. That's not terrorism or a threat?

Please inform yourself before you jump on any war bandwagon. That is serious business, will you or yours be on the front line? Mine are on the front line. And you better damn bet I'm proud of it. Our men and women volunteered for this service and I thank everyone of them whenever I get the chance. I want a President who is going to see this thing through. Pulling out too early when some kind of success so close is unthinkable to me.

[Redhunter1012]

How about Saddam being responsible for tens of thousands of murderos deaths. How about us being proactive instead of reactive at a time when it was called for?

[Hoytmania]

i got this from a CB forum


Please justify the War of Aggression on Iraq.

No WMDs.

No connection to terrorism in the US. None. DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THIS PICTURE?
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w356/sdlesk/3rd20ID20with20Iraq20Mural20of20911.jpg
Iraq was and has never been a threat to the US. SEE ABOVE PICTURE!!

Saddam was OUR GUY in his war against Iran. Look it up.

The US State Department gave him the OK to invade Kuwait. It was called an internal affair. Look it up.

If our fine country was occupied, what would you do? EVERY TIME I WALK INTO A GAS STATION OR A QUICKY MART AND SOME FORIEGNER BEHIND THE COUNTER THAT CAN BARELY SPEAK ENGLISH. I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT MY MONEY IS GOING SOMEWHERE THAT I ABSOLUTLEY DON'T APPROVE OF. I DON'T BELIEVE I AM PREJUDICE BUT THERE HAS BEEN TIMES WHERE I WALK IN AND TURNED RIGHT BACK AROUND TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO MAKE THE PURCHASE I WAS NEEDING TO MAKE. hAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE TAX BREAKS THAT THOSE PEOPLE GET FOR COMING OVER HERE AND BUYING A BUSINESS. IT IS SICKENING.

Now sabers are being rattled at Iran, Dick Cheney has been exposed in his false flag plans to start a war with them. Look it up.

Please inform yourself before you jump on any war bandwagon. That is serious business, will you or yours be on the front line? I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THERE IS MORE GOOD THAN BAD GOING ON IN IRAQ. OUR MEDIA IS SO FULL OF B.S. THEY JUST WANT EVERYONE TO THINK THAT IT IS ALL A BIG MESS. I GOT SOME FACTS FOR YOU TO LOOK UP. HOW MANY SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN STARTED? HOW MANY CHURCHES HAVE BEEN STARTED? I DON'T CARE WHAT RELIGION. GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR ME AND THEN WE WILL FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION!

[ap0317ah]

Hey 45 I'm starting to think this guy is a spamer he's made 32 posts and he has yet to make a single post about hunting or fishing. All of them except for his welcome to the forum thread have been about garbage like this.
Tom

[Cal923]

Isn't this the same guy that posted there should only be 1 hunting season? You should be able to use a rifle all hunting season? Seems to me all he wants to do is stir the pot with jibberish. Always telling people to inform themselves... man you need to quit watching so much news. Too many conspiracy theorists...I mean seriously ...

[jackalope]

i got this from a CB forum


Please justify the War of Aggression on Iraq.

No WMDs.

No connection to terrorism in the US. None.

Iraq was and has never been a threat to the US.

Saddam was OUR GUY in his war against Iran. Look it up.

The US State Department gave him the OK to invade Kuwait. It was called an internal affair. Look it up.

If our fine country was occupied, what would you do?

Now sabers are being rattled at Iran, Dick Cheney has been exposed in his false flag plans to start a war with them. Look it up.

Please inform yourself before you jump on any war bandwagon. That is serious business, will you or yours be on the front line?

I have said it before and I'll say it again.. To your face...

Our Number 1 enemy in the war, and the people directly responsible for our slow progress, Are right here in America..

YOU. Yes You sir, are the reason this war is not over... The reason that we can't fight a war like it's a war... If you whiney liberals shut up and actually supported our troops and country. Instead of being pissed off your precious John Kerry didn't win, and trying now to elect a socialist.. This would have been over years ago...

Let me tell you how a war is supposed to go buddy..... You hit the ground, you kill people, you win and come home.... This war was never about Sadam.. It was about telling the middle east.. Hey all you Muslim extremist,, we WILL kick your ass... It was supposed to be a "show of force" Hence the shock and awe campaign... We fought in Afghanistan because of 9/11... Saddam kept talking crap and wasn't getting the picture, So we bum rushed his ass and hung him... Now Iran is supplying weapons on a daily basis to those fighting us, and pursuing nuclear weapons... Sure there is some saber rattling going on... I say we pull a Regan and put a cruse missile on his dinner table like we did Kadafi.... Killed Kadafi’s Whole family but missed him.. Yeah he walked the straight and narrow after that..

[Thunderflight]

I think someone was trolling for trouble and caught a stringer full.....:whistle::bouncy::whistle::bouncy:

[geezer II]

I think someone was trolling for trouble and caught a stringer full.....:whistle::bouncy::whistle::bouncy:

SEMPER FI :mischeif:

[Hiller]

I have said this before, and I'm sure I'll catch hell for it, but back in 2002-2003 George Bush told us all there were WMD's all over Iraq... now that being said, I believe if your going to send thousands upon thousands of young kids over there on that basis, then you had better damn well be able to show the American people undeniable proof of WMD's... now had he just said Saddam is a bad guy and we want him dead, then shoot I still would have been on board.... just my thoughts... And I know he used biological weapons on the Kurds back in the day... I just have a hard time with a war based on the the facts he used, and I have still yet to see undeniable evidence that they were there... that's all...

Don't get to excited bandit, I'm still voting republican

[CritterGitter]

Hiller,

WMD's was not the 1 reason for going into the war. If that were the case we would be going into North Korea. There was a list of 12 to 14 reasons why this war was justified. Most of the reasons were all verified. In fact, the WMD's thing is somewhat true. Saddam under U.N. sactions was not to have ballistic scud missiles and he had many. Those could be fired upon Israel at any time. Did we find nuclear weapons? No. Did I expect that we would? No. I did think we would find some chemical or biological weapons manufacturing and there was not a lot of evidence of that. I still think some of that escaped the country to Iran or Syria, but we'll never know for sure.

I am not responding to the original poster. That's just silly.

Also, I hate that people keep referring to this as a war against Iraq. We are not at war with Iraq. That ended a long time ago and we won it in grand fashion. We are just there fighting off terrorists. We still have units stationed in Germany, but you don't hear anyone talk about how WWII is not over. It's ridiculous!

Kyle

[Hiller]

Hiller,

WMD's was not the 1 reason for going into the war. If that were the case we would be going into North Korea. There was a list of 12 to 14 reasons why this war was justified. Most of the reasons were all verified. In fact, the WMD's thing is somewhat true. Saddam under U.N. sactions was not to have ballistic scud missiles and he had many. Those could be fired upon Israel at any time. Did we find nuclear weapons? No. Did I expect that we would? No. I did think we would find some chemical or biological weapons manufacturing and there was not a lot of evidence of that. I still think some of that escaped the country to Iran or Syria, but we'll never know for sure.

I am not responding to the original poster. That's just silly.

Also, I hate that people keep referring to this as a war against Iraq. We are not at war with Iraq. That ended a long time ago and we won it in grand fashion. We are just there fighting off terrorists. We still have units stationed in Germany, but you don't hear anyone talk about how WWII is not over. It's ridiculous!

Kyle

WMD's was the drum that GW was beating on... that's all you heard for months.... I'm not saying they weren't there... I'm saying if your using that as a reason to go to war, then you better damn well have undeniable truth... thats all...

Last I checked North Korea was on the "axis of evil" as well..

Just curious what the other 12 to 14 reasons were, I remember Saddam wouldn't let UN inspectors in and that also violated the sanctions or whatever... but the main reason that we heard for months was WMD...

Trust me I'm not against it, hell I had an 11x option 40 Ranger Contract right out of highschool... but they found out I had issues with my spine and booted me in basic.... :(


We would not want to get into it with North Korea, I feel that would get ugly really quick....

[CritterGitter]

I agree about NK. I don't think we really want to fool with Iran either. I think our government is praying for a revolution in that country.

I do know this. Things could only get worse if Obama wins the White House.

Kyle

[Gunners]

You could have left it over there imo...you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine. You could at least try to be original...this is as stale as month old bread :rolleyes:

45 thanks for taking the time to rebuddle his stupid thoughts, (my opinion). My answer for him, your an ass. Take your comments somewhere who cares, maybe Iran!
Proud of my family who has been and is in Iraq today.
2 nephews Army
1 nephew Airforce
1 brother n law Army
1 son Airforce

[biznutz]

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/iraqs-yellowcake/81328/

The uranium issue is not a trivial one, because Iraq, sitting on vast oil reserves, has no peaceful need for nuclear power. Saddam Hussein had already invaded Kuwait, launched missiles into Israeli cities, and harbored a terrorist group, the PKK, hostile to America's NATO ally, Turkey. To leave this nuclear material sitting around the Middle East in the hands of Saddam and the same corrupt United Nations that failed to stop the genocide in Darfur and was guilty of the oil-for-food scandal would have been too big a risk.



http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html
or
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

[bandit]

I agree about NK. I don't think we really want to fool with Iran either. I think our government is praying for a revolution in that country.

I do know this. Things could only get worse if Obama wins the White House.

Kyle


and you think things will be any better with MCCain.. why have a repete
of this admin

[CritterGitter]

Ever heard the expression of going from bad to worse. :irked:

CG

[bandit]

sure have.. that's what's going to happen if mcccain gets in

to be honest it won't matter whose in office

[jackalope]

and you think things will be any better with MCCain.. why have a repete
of this admin


And under what facts do you support this claim.... Or, are you just talking out of your ass again..

Sitting on you butt and not doing something about world issues is not being a good world leader..

In 1993 when the terrorist hit the WTC the first time, Clinton was in office... He didn't do crap but launch a few cruise missiles into the desert and sweep it under the rug for 7 more years.

Within the first year of Bush being elected into office they struck again and dropped the 2 towers...

Now I ask you, if your precious Bill Clinton would have done his job, instead of chasing interns.. Maybe Sept 11 wouldn't have happened....

Sure GWB went to war,,, and that just pisses you liberals off.... Why, because in your tiny area of logic you think Bill Clinton did something.. That’s just it though he didn't do anything, just avoided the problem and passed it on.... He avoided any real responsibility.. He's that guy at work who everybody likes and has a great personality.. But really doesn't do crap...

[deerhunt45]

You've heard of the "drive-by" media. bandit is a drive-by poster :rolleyes:

[deerhunter_matt]

ON the topic of reasons to go to war: this is a great book to read.

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=KhZjia_en6oC&dq=allies+by+william+shawcross&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=B5xtmNeGj_&sig=LH4SWcQQ_YZgkjJDnttoI0_yiAk&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPP1,M1

Called Allies, written by William Shawcross. And look, you can read it on;ine to. And just to be sure, this guy is pretty critical of both sides of the pond. He lists all the reasons that were presented to the UN, and how the actions of a few radical politicians kept this war from being a UN action. (Basically, Russia, France and Germany wouldn't follow through with enforcing previous UN resolutions, read about it) As far as why GW only talked about WMD's, the world was in a state of fear, and he capitalized on that fear to gather public opinion. Now tell me Bandit, why did the majority of politicians, even your precious Billary, say that Saddam was evil and needed removed from power? Becasue he was, and he did. GW could have presented the whole case to America, but at the time, he only needed to raise suspicions based on presumably faulty intel (It's a damn big country, and they haven't even scratched the surface)

Oh, and on the subject of WMD's:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html

He had em, just not in the capacity we expected. (That we have discovered as of yet)

In all seriousness, peruse through that book, you might be surprised. Bandit, you are a troll who has contributed NOTHING to this forum, and I think you should be banned. You come onto an outdoorsman's forum, where the majority of members support the war, and vote (majority) republican. You come on here and spout the random babblings of someone who knows that their messiah is 6 points behind "The White Devil" in this state, and will do anything to try to squeeze one support vote out for him. You need to stop selling this BS, because noone is buying it. We belonged in Iraq, and we need to see it through the the end, or things will be much worse than you think they are now.

[deerhunter_matt]

ANother interesting read.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

[Cal923]

Very well done Matt... It's nice to see someone take the time to find the facts before talking jibberish.

[deerhunter_matt]

Very well done Matt... It's nice to see someone take the time to find the facts before talking jibberish.

Went to school to be a history teacher, what can I say?

[jhammer]

You've heard of the "drive-by" media. bandit is a drive-by poster :rolleyes:


:yeahthat:

[TRAPPER JOHN]

bandit is an ass#@*# CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!