Pryor Starting?

[Redhunter1012]

Rumor has it he is taking 65% of the snaps this week. I know he's talented, but I just think this is stupid for a team that still has an outside shot at a NC, not to mention they still are the favorites to win the Big 10.I could see splitting reps, but this just creates more distractions for the team. There's absolutely no way they run the table with a 2 QB system, with 1 being a very talented freshman.

[coonskinner]

they will be doing it like they did at usc...:D ...my question is why now...this shoulda been decided before season...uncertainy...geeze how long til the opener before figurin this out...:mischeif: enlighten me...fellow armchair qb's...:dizzy:

[Redhunter1012]

This is Crap on Tressell's part. If TP wasn't good enough to Start after the Ohio game, he sure the hell hasn't done anything better than Boeckmen to start against Troy. He hasn't even completed a pass over 10 yards! In all honesty, I feel bad for Boeckman. Tressell is essentially using him for a scapegoat for a piss poor gameplan and bad OL play. This is also a way to appease all the fanbase who is delusional enough to believe Pryor could have been a savior all along this year. And to pull this and start him gainst the All Mighty Troy team? What a joke! Ole tressell has never been under this type of pressure and I think it's showing. Everybody just wanted a coach that could beat UM. Now that he's easily done that, they want one who can win a National Championship every year. With all the talent returning, there is a ton of pressure to produce.

[Lance]

To be honest I've never been a fan of Boeckmen and he always seems like more of a liability than an asset. He's a step better than being a the college answer to Trent Dilfer. Put him in and ask him not to blow it. Anyone thinking they have a prayer at a championship with him at the helm is seriously smoking something. LSU seemed to do pretty well last year with a 2 QB system and while I'm not a big fan of doing that you might as well get him some experience while you've got some easy opponents.

[Redhunter1012]

To be honest I've never been a fan of Boeckmen and he always seems like more of a liability than an asset. He's a step better than being a the college answer to Trent Dilfer. Put him in and ask him not to blow it. Anyone thinking they have a prayer at a championship with him at the helm is seriously smoking something. LSU seemed to do pretty well last year with a 2 QB system and while I'm not a big fan of doing that you might as well get him some experience while you've got some easy opponents.

Here's a newsflash reguarding LSU, they had more than one playmaker on offense. And as good as beanie is, he's not a playmaker with a big toe problem. Ray Small is a good return man, but he can't run routes. You guys have ZERO difference makers right now on offense, and putting Pryor in there against Troy is just gonna give Buckeye Nation a false hope for a week or so.

[jeffmo]

This is Crap on Tressell's part. If TP wasn't good enough to Start after the Ohio game, he sure the hell hasn't done anything better than Boeckmen to start against Troy. He hasn't even completed a pass over 10 yards! In all honesty, I feel bad for Boeckman. Tressell is essentially using him for a scapegoat for a piss poor gameplan and bad OL play. This is also a way to appease all the fanbase who is delusional enough to believe Pryor could have been a savior all along this year. And to pull this and start him gainst the All Mighty Troy team? What a joke! Ole tressell has never been under this type of pressure and I think it's showing. Everybody just wanted a coach that could beat UM. Now that he's easily done that, they want one who can win a National Championship every year. With all the talent returning, there is a ton of pressure to produce.

do you mean pressure like the zwick/smith season????
ohio state will be fine.
i'd be more worried about how well old rich is producing zero results with that bunch who will,as i read somewhere,will be be contending nationally,in 2 years.

[CritterGitter]

I have been thinking about this a lot. OSU fans want to look at our football program as one of the elites in the country. Yet, in 2 of the last 3 chances to be on that stage in front of the nation and prove they are elite they got blown out and the 3rd one which was last year against LSU there was never any real doubt about the outcome of the game in the second half. I truly believe they had the talent to be in all those games. Losing by a touchdown or less would sting, but not be this painful. These shameful losses has had the nation claiming we're over-rated and no where near an elite program we think we are. Funny, all the elite programs recruited the same kids we did. They all wanted the same players we got. With great success comes great expectation. Winning the Big Ten is not to be taken for granted. However, the Buckeyes have done it consistently and challenged for the National Championship game and then brought most of those same players back. Thus, the larger than life expectations. College football fans are passionate. Sometimes that passion glosses over glaring weaknesses.

I think Troy has a good chance to beat this Buckeye team. If they do, it could dampen the spirit of many of these players. I also think Wisconsin and Penn State is capable of beating us. If they do Buckeye nation will be sour for sure. Maybe that is what it would take to bring about changes.

Think about this......in all 3 of our blown chances on the national stage.......going into them, the supposed strenth of the team was the defense. However, at the end of each game......most folks clammered, "where was the defense." Did they just fail to execute in all 3 games? Was the game plan flawed? Did they fail to make any halftime adjustments? Once is a fluke, twice is a pattern and more than that becomes a trend.

If you ask me the writing is on the wall.

Kyle

[HeartLunger]

Forget Boeckman, forget Pryor! Not matter the talent level we will not have a good qb until we get a good offensive line. No one throws a better deep ball than Boeckman, but for Pete sakes the O line needs to give him at least 5 seconds for the play to develop and they can't do it. Our O line stinks! :irked:

By the way we have no shot of getting to the NC. Also, I'll lay dollars to donuts we loose to Penn State and Wisconsin, and barely pull out a victory of Illinois. Our D cannot handle athleticism, and our team overall plays with a total lack of conviction and passion.

[jeffmo]

i think that ohio states success in the last 10 years or so has spoiled the fan base to where they expect a shot at the national title each and every year.
listen to any major college coach on what their expectations are for each season and most of the time they will say to win their conference and go to a bowl game.
maybe this team might just be one of those who has a TON of talent but just can't seem to figure out how to play as a team.
i think osu will still have a good season and have a very good shot at winning the big 10.

[hunter333]

Everytime I see Pryor running the ball, he's too hesitant. It isn't high school anymore, he NEEDS to get moving. I'd say Boeckman is the best bet..

[HeartLunger]

Everytime I see Pryor running the ball, he's too hesitant. It isn't high school anymore, he NEEDS to get moving. I'd say Boeckman is the best bet..

Boeckman is by far the better passer...if only he had an O line to throw him a bone.

[Lance]

I agree the O line is a mess and has given pretty poor protection but even last year boeckmen was prone to brain farts. We went to the MI state game last year and he did his best to keep that one interesting and the O line was just fine. He does throw the long ball well, but his decision making is not that of a top tier college qb.

The questions about the D are justified. I'm wondering if tressel is going to start recuriting a little differently after the experiences of the past three seasons.

[coonskinner]

This is Crap on Tressell's part. If TP wasn't good enough to Start after the Ohio game, he sure the hell hasn't done anything better than Boeckmen to start against Troy. He hasn't even completed a pass over 10 yards! In all honesty, I feel bad for Boeckman. Tressell is essentially using him for a scapegoat for a piss poor gameplan and bad OL play. This is also a way to appease all the fanbase who is delusional enough to believe Pryor could have been a savior all along this year. And to pull this and start him gainst the All Mighty Troy team? What a joke! Ole tressell has never been under this type of pressure and I think it's showing. Everybody just wanted a coach that could beat UM. Now that he's easily done that, they want one who can win a National Championship every year. With all the talent returning, there is a ton of pressure to produce.

thats true bout wanting a coach to beat mich...coop a loup is proof of that...now coop could beat mich. while at arizona...but not while at osu...think bout that...its the style of ball we play...not the coach we have...they keep bringin in new coaches but keep playin the big ten style...and keep this mentality if we beat mich...we had a sucessful season...need to learn how to beat those other conf.:Dmaybe bring in a sucessful coach against those teams...like a tom osbourn...or a texas coach...if yuh can beat the se con. an the west coast teams then you sure as ell can beat mich. an any big ten team...

[Redhunter1012]

do you mean pressure like the zwick/smith season????
ohio state will be fine.
i'd be more worried about how well old rich is producing zero results with that bunch who will,as i read somewhere,will be be contending nationally,in 2 years.

This just backs up my point of you being the one always starting the bickering on here. And yes, the Zwick/Smith situation may have cost you a national title, but you guys didn't have the expectations that year that you do this year IIRC. Then in your other response on this thread, you flat out back up everything I have said. So, what is it You want to do?

[jeffmo]

This just backs up my point of you being the one always starting the bickering on here. And yes, the Zwick/Smith situation may have cost you a national title, but you guys didn't have the expectations that year that you do this year IIRC. Then in your other response on this thread, you flat out back up everything I have said. So, what is it You want to do?


i'm not trying to start anything.you say that tressel hasn't had that kind of pressure before and i pointed out a very similar situation severals years back.
same old story.if we disagree we're wrong.

[TheCream]

If Boeckman can get into a rhythm, he seems to be just fine. When he starts getting pressured, and hit a few times, he folds like a cheap suit. We saw that against LSU last year, Illinois last year, USC this year, and even OU this year. I agree, the O-line play has been bad. When you play Ohio U, and have the size of an O-line like OSU has and you can't knock the Bobcats off the line, there is a serious issue.

As for Pryor and Boeckman, I'm not a fan of the 2 QB system, either, but from what I could see the dimension that Pryor adds to the game (especially in the absence of C Wells) needs to be there. Pryor has the escapability to turn a Boeckman sack into a positive gain. He is not a gifted passer yet, clearly, but his ability to scramble and prolong a play makes it easier for a WR to open up. The biggest issue I have seen offensively, besides the line play, has been lack of speed at the WR position. Hartline, Robiskie, etc... are "possession" receivers. They can't separate from DB's. What happened to the Ted Ginn's and Santonio Holmes' and Anthony Gonzalez's? These guys could separate, get open, and make plays. They don't have that with Hartline, Robo, and Small. Maybe Posey can develop into that type of threat, but I doubt it happens this year.

As for the Big Ten, I can see them losing at least one conference game. Wisconsin scares me more than PSU just because it is @Wisconsin at night, and that is usually a very tough place to play. PSU hasn't played anybody and that game is at OSU, I think they can win that game. Illinois is 1-dimensional right now, so I think that game they will win. The Wisconsin game will tell us how the Big Ten schedule should go. Troy of course could pull an upset, too, but I expect the Bucks to come out ready to prove themselves this week. I hope they do, anyway. They need to win convincingly to get back on track. If they struggle against Troy, I think there will be major struggles in conference. :nono:

[CritterGitter]

Our defense gave up 254 yards and 15 first downs to lowly OU. It gave up 348 yards and 21 first downs to USC.

Troy is dying to get some national recognition for their program and there would be no better way than to beat OSU in the shoe in a year when we had aspirations of a national championship to start the season. They have a VERY explosive offense. I don't know much about their defense, but they are going to put up some points for sure! They want this game bad and really since nobody expects them to win, they have no real pressure. They can just cut loose and go have some fun. I don't think they'll blow us out, but I think they have a good chance to beat us.

Though, it is not all gloom and doom. The only teams in the Big Ten that could possibly beat us is Wisconsin and PSU and the PSU game is at home so that helps.

I don't care who plays QB. I just want to see some defense!!!!!

Kyle

[jeffmo]

IF boeckman has time he can be very good at times.last year his biggest fault seemed to be under throwing passes.once he's flushed from the pocket though he's not too good and makes some poor decisions,alike stanley jackson use to do(remember the michigan game?).

[Fish-n-Fool]

The problem is not TB - yep Todd isn't going to win games against the elite, but with time he is a better than average passer. This is a TEAM problem right now. They are not playing well, missing assignments and are starting to point fingers at each other (which is never good). The offense all but packed it in by the 3rd quarter in LA - the defense continued to play as hard as they could; although obviously out matched at the line if scrimmage.

This team still has the ability to dominate every game from here out - believe that! If the older guys take a look in the mirror and decide they are going to play ball we win out and play another BCS game.

TP will not start against Troy; he is getting 65% to TB's 35% because TB already knows the playbook and has had more reps than most CFB QBs get in their career - this is his sixth year in the program. It is clear TP is the future and I think it is finally clear to the staff TB is not a leader and can only play well when given ample time and is not pressured. What do you think the game plan is for opposing D coordinators? Blitz and pressure - duh!

I'll go on record and say we will beat Troy like a red headed step brother - our guys are sick of it. I predict a blowout and yes I am familiar with Troy's team. The snaps will be 60-40 to TB and Pryor will get more experince as we will need him this year.

If I'm wrong and we don't come out firing we are in trouble until the staff sits the starters and goes with the younger second team. The reality is our second team of freshmen and sophomores should beat just about everybody in the league.

It is the staff's job to motivate our guys to play to their ability - which seems to be the major problem here.

[jeffmo]

fnf,i do agree that it is definately a team problem rather than just one player.

[Redhunter1012]

Id be surprised if you guys didn't handle Troy relativelt easy. I'd also be shocked if you didn't slowly work in alot of the freshmen on the OL.

[Deer Camp Chick]

Forget Boeckman, forget Pryor! Not matter the talent level we will not have a good qb until we get a good offensive line. No one throws a better deep ball than Boeckman, but for Pete sakes the O line needs to give him at least 5 seconds for the play to develop and they can't do it. Our O line stinks! :irked:

By the way we have no shot of getting to the NC. Also, I'll lay dollars to donuts we loose to Penn State and Wisconsin, and barely pull out a victory of Illinois. Our D cannot handle athleticism, and our team overall plays with a total lack of conviction and passion.
HERES how I see it.Remember last year when the offensive line was so bad with Justin Zwick behind center.They switch to happy feet Troy Smith and miraculously the offensive line improves drastically.DCC:chicken:

[coonskinner]

HERES how I see it.Remember last year when the offensive line was so bad with Justin Zwick behind center.They switch to happy feet Troy Smith and miraculously the offensive line improves drastically.DCC:chicken:

i heard the announcers at the usc game saying that about pryer...that just the fact he could run would keep the defense guessing more...they were just running in and gittin beckman...:D
if osu cant beat this troy team by 30...they lose...they should beat them by 50...usc would...
also wisc. has always been a tough game for osu...and a night game at that...ohhhhh

[jeffmo]

Rumor has it he is taking 65% of the snaps this week. I know he's talented, but I just think this is stupid for a team that still has an outside shot at a NC, not to mention they still are the favorites to win the Big 10.I could see splitting reps, but this just creates more distractions for the team. There's absolutely no way they run the table with a 2 QB system, with 1 being a very talented freshman.

seems like tressel knows ALOT more about coaching than SOME give him credit for!
pryor has 4 td passes and 66 rushing yards.

[TRAPPER JOHN]

6th grader's could beat the troy team ,thank god ohio did!!!:whistle: :whistle: barely...

[coonskinner]

seems like tressel knows ALOT more about coaching than SOME give him credit for!
pryor has 4 td passes and 66 rushing yards.

uhhh how much did they beat this uhhh troy team by...hopefully this can happen when they get past the cupcake division...it proved nothing...better competetion will give us the answer...ohio state shoukd have had to spot that team 30 points before the game even started...:D

[Deehntr56]

Didn't see the game......but 4 Td passes for a Freshman.....you gotta love it!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

GO BUCKS!!!

[Redhunter1012]

If I was a bucknut fan, I'd be happy about Pryor's performance, but worried about the rest of the offense. Terrible safety play doomed Troy. Personally, if OSU doesn't progress, you guys will lose atleast 3 big 10 games.

[coonskinner]

This just backs up my point of you being the one always starting the bickering on here. And yes, the Zwick/Smith situation may have cost you a national title, but you guys didn't have the expectations that year that you do this year IIRC. Then in your other response on this thread, you flat out back up everything I have said. So, what is it You want to do?

that team could beat this team...:D

[Deehntr56]

maybe CS?:biggrin: :biggrin: ;)

[jeffmo]

i'd say it wasn't so much terrible safety play as it was very good passing and receptions.
looks like tressel has given pryor the reins!
btw,penn st. looks amazing!

[jeffmo]

uhhh how much did they beat this uhhh troy team by...hopefully this can happen when they get past the cupcake division...it proved nothing...better competetion will give us the answer...ohio state shoukd have had to spot that team 30 points before the game even started...:D

cs,would you be happy with an 18 point win each week?
go back and look at how many points osu has won by under tressel.he doesn't run up scores because when he can do it he plays 2nd and 3rd string players to get them playing time.that way,if they are needed they have experience.
remember the last n.c. season and how many nail biter games there were that season.

[Fish-n-Fool]

Troy made some mistakes and we did a great job on special teams of putting them in bad spots. The QB gets the attention, but our punt team was the MVP today. As Red said the Troy Safeties are going to have a rough week of practice, but in our defense I think TP's ability had something to do with that.

I would rate TP's first start as a D+ overall; as a freshman making his first start it gets a solid B+. He missed several reads, didn't see wide open guys down field a few times, and made some bad decisions. That being said it was his first start and he has "mojo" to spare. I think he has the chance to progress enough this year that we will be able to keep teams off balance.

The defense just doesn't have it this year - they seem to stand still and wait to grab onto the ball carrier. They did clamp down in the second half and that Troy team always moves the ball, but I was far from impressed. Is Hines the only guy that likes to hit people on our D this year???

If any of you watched other games this week it is easy to see how unaggressive and unimpressive our defense is right now. See how Georgia, MSU, etc just attack the line of scrimmage and the ball carrier? They also pop the offensive players over and over - like we used to:confused:

We'll smack the Gophers again next week - they haven't played anybody. From there the party is over and we'll find out what our guys are going to do.

And good job Spartans - that is the way to play defense; just shut off your opponents running game and punish their QB all day long. Poor Jimmey is probably in the tub as I type working out the pain. And Dee - Hoyer played a smart game; he knows when to try to make a play and when there is no play - that is very important.

[coonskinner]

cs,would you be happy with an 18 point win each week?
go back and look at how many points osu has won by under tressel.he doesn't run up scores because when he can do it he plays 2nd and 3rd string players to get them playing time.that way,if they are needed they have experience.
remember the last n.c. season and how many nail biter games there were that season.

18 points against troy state...how many pointd did usc beat osu by...now thats two equal teams...and you can say that was a true comparison to measure how good a team did...but with ohio state vs, troy...c'mon...tell me why in ell was that game even scheduled...last i looked troy is a high school team here in ohio...an the whole idea of scheduling those smaller schools by osu was to help other OHIO schools financially...but i think thats just a smokescreen for these coaches to make their win losses look better...you know it an i know it...ohio state needs to toughen up their schedule...the big ten has lost respect concerning parity among the teams...it used to be a two team league...right now just one...throw in a couple cup cakes and youre in the playoff game...thats a formula for losing the big one but at the same time bringing in a lot of money and free advertising for osu...:D

[jeffmo]

18 points against troy state...how many pointd did usc beat osu by...now thats two equal teams...and you can say that was a true comparison to measure how good a team did...but with ohio state vs, troy...c'mon...tell me why in ell was that game even scheduled...last i looked troy is a high school team here in ohio...an the whole idea of scheduling those smaller schools by osu was to help other OHIO schools financially...but i think thats just a smokescreen for these coaches to make their win losses look better...you know it an i know it...ohio state needs to toughen up their schedule...the big ten has lost respect concerning parity among the teams...it used to be a two team league...right now just one...throw in a couple cup cakes and youre in the playoff game...thats a formula for losing the big one but at the same time bringing in a lot of money and free advertising for osu...:D

my point is that a win is a win.osu has a new qb,injuries on the o line that called for position switches and their best rb is injured,that makes an 18 point win that much more okay to me.
starting this saturday we're gonna see what they're made of.
btw,did anyone hear why small didn't hardly play???

[Redhunter1012]

my point is that a win is a win.osu has a new qb,injuries on the o line that called for position switches and their best rb is injured,that makes an 18 point win that much more okay to me.
starting this saturday we're gonna see what they're made of.
btw,did anyone hear why small didn't hardly play???

I'll be the first to admit that Troy is probably better than Minnesota. The whole difference is 2 yards. When 1 of the backup RB's are in, the defese is sticking it to them instead of backing up a little when Beanie is in. Those extra 2 yards or so keep alot of drives going.

[TheCream]

As a good buddy of mine said: "If the o-line is going to be this bad and the QB will be running for his life on every pass, you might as well put a guy in at QB who can run." :nono: I can't believe this offensive line is playing so poorly. They better step it up or OSU is going to drop a game or two in Big Ten play.

On to Pryor, I thought JT and JB kept the playcalling ultra-conservative for most of the game. Pryor seemed to be at his best when he had a run-pass option. And speaking of the option, either get a RB on the field who knows how to run it or don't run it. Spacing was horrible. Pryor looks capable of throwing the ball, 4 TD tosses and it should have been 5 if Robiskie would have made a 2-handed effort on a ball in the 1st half.

Defensively they played OK against a good offense. It was just one big play that made it a game for Troy. The sad thing is that it should not have been a game where 1 play can make or break your team.

I'm still not sold that this team can win the Big Ten. :coco:

[coonskinner]

osu continues to fall in the ratings even though they won...guess cupcakes doan mean much...need to get a schedule in future with no troy states...shoot a mac team might have kept them in top ten unless of course osu lost to them...i cant see how anything can be made of this game...once they git into equal competetion then we can see if we're doing any better...:mischeif:

[Deehntr56]

Coonie..hello:yikes: ...everyone plays the patsies early......that's their pre-season!!!!:biggrin:

It's like shooting Doves before Pheasant and Grouse season opens!!!!:biggrin:

[coonskinner]

Coonie..hello:yikes: ...everyone plays the patsies early......that's their pre-season!!!!:biggrin:

It's like shooting Doves before Pheasant and Grouse season opens!!!!:biggrin:

not so with the teams beating osu...its been spoken bout on sports shows all over bout the big ten having a weak conference...theres usually maybe 3 good teams in the big ten in football...indiana should just forfiet its games...seems the best teams were always ohio state,mich.,wisc.,an sometimes penn st....with ohio state an mich. usually far better than the rest...IN THE BIG 10...:D NOW with cooper we got tired of losin the big games...but this continues...and what if it keeps continuing...and what the heck happened to a team that was in the national championship last year returning like 22 starters...or somewhere in that vicinity...barely beat ou...has ou won a game yet???and sqirm by troy...and are slaughtered by another college thats equal in size...whats wrong...:D

[Deehntr56]

Come on Coonie....it's been like that for decades..look at appalachian state last year..they made tons of money playing UM...and they got a Bonus win to go with it!!:biggrin:

It will never be any different under this format!!!


Maybe OSU is trying to be Like UM!:biggrin:

Be good this week, and keep it fired up in here....running out of town to check on some property in another state.....

[coonskinner]

Come on Coonie....it's been like that for decades..look at appalachian state last year..they made tons of money playing UM...and they got a Bonus win to go with it!!:biggrin:

It will never be any different under this format!!!


Maybe OSU is trying to be Like UM!:biggrin:

Be good this week, and keep it fired up in here....running out of town to check on some property in another state.....

right...i'm sayin it is the big ten playin cupcakes...toughin it up...:D

[Fish-n-Fool]

Coonie - take a look at who other teams around the nation play the first 3-4 weeks. Not many would argue the SEC is the strongest conference overall at the present; some my say Big 12. Do a quick search at who the top teams in these leagues played weeks 1-3 and you will be enlightened - several I-AA (I know they don't use this method any more) teams as well as a bunch of patsies.

CFB is not like the NFL where they get 4-5 pre-season games to determine who can do what. The first game counts and in college they schedule this way for a reason - 1) these are the pre-season games in college & 2) to make money for smaller athletic departments that otherwise would close shop.

It's been this way for years and years. Anybody that does even a few minutes worth of research can't argue.

And by the way - that Ohio team you keep bringing up isn't as bad as their record. They have a proven big time coach. They traveled 3 time zones away and lost to Wyoming by exactly 1 point. They played in the Shoe and made a game of it and last week they lost by 3 I believe. They could very easily be 2-1 in these games with a single play or bounce of the ball. And of the 3 games they were not favored to win any of the three.

[coonskinner]

Coonie - take a look at who other teams around the nation play the first 3-4 weeks. Not many would argue the SEC is the strongest conference overall at the present; some my say Big 12. Do a quick search at who the top teams in these leagues played weeks 1-3 and you will be enlightened - several I-AA (I know they don't use this method any more) teams as well as a bunch of patsies.

CFB is not like the NFL where they get 4-5 pre-season games to determine who can do what. The first game counts and in college they schedule this way for a reason - 1) these are the pre-season games in college & 2) to make money for smaller athletic departments that otherwise would close shop.

It's been this way for years and years. Anybody that does even a few minutes worth of research can't argue.

And by the way - that Ohio team you keep bringing up isn't as bad as their record. They have a proven big time coach. They traveled 3 time zones away and lost to Wyoming by exactly 1 point. They played in the Shoe and made a game of it and last week they lost by 3 I believe. They could very easily be 2-1 in these games with a single play or bounce of the ball. And of the 3 games they were not favored to win any of the three.

i agree bout ou...they continue to lose close ones...:D

[Deehntr56]

Pryor will be a good one........glad to have him on board!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

GO BUCKS!!

[Frank in the Laurel]

SEND HIM BACK FROM WENCE HE CAME !!! OSU, is not ready for this new world of wide open football..who would have thunk that JOEPA would have adapted quicker than TRES !!!! He should be right here in Happy Valley, he is not appreciated in Buckeye country...he made a big mistake, could you imagine him as a slot on the LIONS team...As of right now I don't think we'll trade the OHIO kid for him, but we'll gladly take him back home.. IT's time for the BUCKEYES to change to modern times and maybe they will be able to win the big one...past practice when it comes time to play says you come up short..you'd be surprised how little you actually need to play this modern form of HD FOOTBALL, old ideas need to go out the door at OSU, time for a major shift in philosophy, ask all these little rinky dink teams who constantly play the big boys down to the wire, but when the big boys learn to play it, look out !!! TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGIN' !! TELL TRESS, to sit up in the press box and watch the game like JOE-PA !! HE has figured it out...

[Deehntr56]

Hahahahahahaha...now THAT'S Funny!!!:yikes: :D :D

Clark is looking pretty good!!!;)

You can thank OHIO now! :D

GO BUCKS!!