OSU/USC Week!!!

[Deehntr56]

:bouncy: This is the week!!!!:bouncy:


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Will OSU rise to the occasion?????:confused:

Can they handle USC?:confused:

Time will tell!!!!:biggrin:


USC is favored by 10 points!!!:yikes:


For Big Ten, this game means everythingby Michael Rosenberg
Detroit Free Press columnist Michael Rosenberg's new book, "War As They Knew It: Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler and America in a Time of Unrest," is being released nationwide this week. He is a frequent contributor to FOXSports.com.

Updated: September 8, 2008, 3:04 PM EST 384 comments add this RSS blog email print At one point Saturday, with Ohio State trailing Ohio and Michigan locked in a death struggle against Miami of Ohio, I thought, "Oh no, is Jim Delaney going to send out a press release questioning the MAC's academic standards?"

Ohio State rallied, Michigan held on, and Delaney — the Big Ten commissioner who took a few shots at the SEC last winter — does not have to defend his league.
At least not yet.


College football roundup


Week 2's Top 25 action
No. 2 Georgia 56, Cent. Michigan 17
No. 3 Ohio St. 26, Ohio 14
No. 4 Oklahoma 52, Cincinnati 26
No. 5 Florida 26, Miami 3
No. 6 Missouri 52, SE Missouri 3
East Carolina 24, No. 8 West Virginia 3
No. 9 Auburn 27, Sou. Miss 13
No. 10 Texas 42, UTEP 13
No. 11 Wisconsin 51, Marshall 14
No. 12 Texas Tech 35, Nevada 19
No. 13 Alabama 20, Tulane 6
No. 14 Kansas 29, Louisiana St. 0
No. 15 BYU 28, Washington 27
No. 15 Arizona St. 41, Stanford 17
No. 17 USF 31, UCF 24(OT)
No. 18 Oregon 66, Utah St. 24
No. 19 Penn St. 45, Oregon St. 14
No. 20 Wake Forest 30, Ole Miss 28
No. 22 Utah 42, UNLV 21
Vandy 24, No. 23 South Carolina 17
No. 24 Illinois 47, Eastern Ill. 21
Notre Dame 21, San Diego St. 13



Ohio State visits USC Saturday night, and I cannot remember a big September game that seemed so necessary. Let's face it: if the Buckeyes did not play a top-five team from another conference, then showed up for their third straight BCS title game in January, fans around the nation would have called security. I think we all remember the lesson from the Bible: once is a happening, twice is a coincidence and three times means please, for the love of all things holy, STOP CRASHING THE TITLE GAME.

But if Ohio State wins at USC Saturday, that would shut up a whole lot of people. Winning at USC is the gold standard of this era of college football. It is an achievement nobody can dispute.

You can't say USC is a fraud, because the Trojans play all comers in all places, and they just destroyed Virginia on the road.

You can't say USC might be having a down year, because the Trojans haven't had one of those since 2001.

Playing USC on the road is absolutely perfect for Ohio State except, you know, for the part about playing USC on the road. That could be a problem. Especially with Ohio State star Chris "Beanie" Wells nursing an injury.

If you hate Ohio State, Saturday night appears to be fun on two levels: you get to watch the Buckeyes get killed now, which means you won't have to watch them get killed in January.

If you love Ohio State, you tell yourself this time might be different. The haters laugh at that. But the Buckeye lovers might be right.

We put so much emphasis on championship games in our culture, which I obviously understand: they are how championships are decided, after all. But Jim Tressel's program should not be judged simply by what happened against Florida and LSU the past two Januarys.

Nobody sends more players to the NFL. That's just a fact. Ohio State, year in and year out, has as much talent as anybody.

Do the Buckeyes whip a mediocre conference? Well, I don't think the Big Ten has been as good as the SEC the last three years. But I don't think that talent gap is as big as it seems, either. Since 2000, the average SEC team has produced 30.3 NFL draft picks, including an average of 14 per school in the first three rounds. In that same period, the average Big Ten team has produced 29.4 draft picks, including an average of 11.8 per school in the first three rounds.

Of course, nobody wants to hear that. Just as nobody wants to hear that during the last bowl season, Ohio State played Louisiana State in Louisiana, Illinois played Southern California in Southern California, Michigan played Florida in Florida, and Penn State played Texas A&M in Texas.

And absolutely nobody wants to hear this from Delaney, the Big Ten commissioner:


"I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line, but there are appropriate balances when mixing academics and athletics. Each school, as well as each conference, simply must do what fits their mission regardless of what a recruiting service recommends — winning our way requires some discipline and restraint with the recruitment process."

Delaney stopped short of calling everybody in the SEC a redneck. Perhaps that part got edited out. But nobody likes a sore loser. And Jim Delaney came off like a sore loser.

That is why Saturday's game is so great. If Ohio State loses to USC, Delaney won't be able to say anything. If Ohio State wins, he won't have to.

[Deehntr56]

Players, Pete Carroll still consider Ohio State a big threat


USC Coach Pete Carroll and quarterback Mark Sanchez (6) believe Ohio State will put forth a much better effort against the Trojans this weekend than the Buckeyes did in a 26-14 victory over Ohio on Saturday.
Everyone is quick to dismiss Buckeyes' struggle against Ohio.
By Gary Klein, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 8, 2008
Some of them saw it. Others only heard about it.

When USC players and coaches reconvened Sunday night for the first time in two days, the topic among many was Ohio State's narrow victory over Ohio.




But before the top-ranked Trojans split up into position groups to watch film of the Buckeyes, Coach Pete Carroll addressed his players about the hype that has been simmering for months and will ratchet into overdrive leading up to Saturday's game at the Coliseum.

"I did make them aware that this is a game that's different to a lot of other people," Carroll said when he emerged from the meeting in Heritage Hall. "To us it's the same."

Carroll spent Friday recruiting and watched Ohio State's struggle against Ohio on Saturday. The Buckeyes won, 26-14, at Columbus, but fell from third to fifth in the Associated Press media poll and the coaches' poll.


"I'm not thinking that's real indicative of how they're capable of playing," Carroll said of Ohio State.

"They've been a great program. They just kind of had one of those games that happens sometimes."

Quarterback Mark Sanchez did not watch the game live, preferring to view the tape on Sunday night.

Before he went into the team meeting, Sanchez said Ohio State's struggles could be attributed to "a million things."

"Everybody's going to be wanting to say that they were looking ahead," said Sanchez, a fourth-year junior who was recruited by Ohio State. "I don't think Coach [Jim] Tressel would've let that happen."

"I don't think it has anything to do with that. They just had an off game."

Defensive end Clay Matthews agreed.

"They're a good team that obviously struggled," Matthews said. "They're going to bring a much better effort against us."

Many players said they were unaware of comments made by Ohio State receiver Ray Small after the Buckeyes' victory. Small, a junior from Cleveland, told ESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg that he visited Ohio State and USC when he was being recruited in high school.

"As I took my visit to USC, I'm like, 'How are they successful? They're not even serious about the game,' " Small said. "Before the game, they're all going crazy. Me and [Buckeyes defensive end] Rob Rose was on the visit and I'm looking like, 'Wow.' And then the coach said, 'You better get out of here. It's 'bout to get hectic.'

"And then I come [to Ohio State] on the visit and before the game, it's all quiet, everybody getting taped, coaches talking. It's the total opposite."

Citing comments made by former USC quarterback Carson Palmer about the Buckeyes and their fans, Small described the difference between the programs as, "a class thing."

"Here at Ohio State, they teach you to be a better man," Small said. "There, it's just all about football."

Carroll acknowledged that he heard about Small's remarks.

"Whatever anybody ever says is always just an example to us of how things sound," Carroll said.

When apprised of Small's comments, Matthews raised his eyebrows in surprise.

"Coach Carroll does a great job of getting people excited about football," he said. "We've all bought into it, and it's been pretty successful."

Sanchez seemed relieved to finally begin preparations for the eagerly awaited game.

"I'm glad we're finally into the week," Sanchez said. "There's a sense of urgency and a reward at the end. It's going to be fun."

[bowtech_buster]

look for our defense to win this game as i stated before anderson russel malcom jenkins and marcus freeman to be the difference makers and our offensive speedster ray small will be our weapon on offense. dont look for 33 to be much of a factor as the trojans try to get to the outside or deep down the field most of the time

[Deehntr56]

The new "line" is USC by 11!!!

[Fish-n-Fool]

I was going to stay away from betting this one, but with the line @ 10.5 and 11 I know where my money is going:biggrin:

I've predicted a loss in this game since day one, but I don't think it will be by more than 11:bouncy:

After seeing USC whip a pathetic Virginia team and watching OSU struggle both weeks (yes, they had some struggles against a severely over matched YSU), I'll stick with a loss on this one. I think it will be USC 24 OSU 20

I think USC will be prepared to stop the run and force us to win this game in the air. I don't think as poorly of TB as most, but IMO he won't get it done; not to mention we dropped more passes last week than I've seen in awhile.

I sure hope I am wrong and the ball bounces our way, but either way I expect a close game.

[bowtech_buster]

my score is osu 38 usc 31

[CritterGitter]

I do have some legitimate concerns about this game as a Buckeye fan. Can our defensive line hang with the USC O-line? Can our defensive coach come up with an attacking scheme to slow the speedy USC playmakers down? Can we put any kind of pressure on Sanchez?

Our offense should find some rythm if they don't drop passes. They'll score 21-24 points anyway. Will that be enough?

Special teams play could be HUGE in this game!

Kyle

[bowtech_buster]

I do have some legitimate concerns about this game as a Buckeye fan. Can our defensive line hang with the USC O-line? Can our defensive coach come up with an attacking scheme to slow the speedy USC playmakers down? Can we put any kind of pressure on Sanchez?

Our offense should find some rythm if they don't drop passes. They'll score 21-24 points anyway. Will that be enough?

Special teams play could be HUGE in this game!

Kyle
i look for them to play a tampa 2 style defense cause our backers are pretty quick at least on the outside look for lauranitas to do lots of blitzing on sanchez but most of the pressure will come from that line..although sanches likes to roll to his backside a lot and throw the check down route to the back and let them get yac. they arnt really a deep threat but when they do try it russel and jenkins have been around long enough to make plays on the ball.oh yea and our boy ray small will have a field day returing punts on their special teams.. i cant wait for this game. i might add i think it should be sain behind bennie not boom. sain is more like b. wells than boom

[Deehntr56]

OK....Going way out on a limb...I mean....way out there...were talking to the end of the branch and hanging on for life!!!:biggrin:

Even against my better judgement...I'm going with an OSU win.

It won't be a heavy scoring game...it could be....but I'll go with a score of 24-17 Buckeyes.

I'm definitely not confident on that prediction, and I'm only going that way, because I think the staff had this all planned......:whistle: :biggrin:

Hope for the best Buckeye Fans........If they show their true ability, this could be a good game!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

and I'm sticking to it!!!!:biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

I expect them to gash OSU's vaunted defense. They have more talented skill players than LSU or FLA and we seen what happened there. If OSU has a chance, they need to get a lead early and force USC to pass. If USC is able to dictate the style of play, it's game over for the Buckeyes

[Fish-n-Fool]

bowtech - you are dead on with SC rolling the QB to avoid pressure. It makes it tough to find him when he is constantly rolling one way or another (he passes well rolling both directions). But I couldn't disagree more with your opinion on Saine being behind Wells - Boom is the man for that job right now. Saine has no confidence coming off his hammy injury and it shows big time. Boom showed some great burst and toughness with his carries last week and continues to impress the staff and players. Boom is the between the tackles guy and has earned those carries to give Beanie a rest. Word on Saine is mum. Saine needs his confidence back before he gets many carries at TB. I think using him on screen passes and pony formations would be good @ SC, but no carries for Saine just yet.

I think the entire key to this game will be how our O line deals with the blitz packages SC throws in and special teams play. Ray loves to blitz and he weighs 260lbs - very tough to pick up. If we can provide some protection and keep them from storming through the line of scrimmage we will be in this one.

Man, can anybody fast forward us to Sat night????

[Deehntr56]

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Facts..Facts..Facts.....:biggrin:

FNF...FAST FORWARD????

LET'S GET IT ON NOW!!!!

COLUMBUS -- As the father of a big-time recruit, Steve Martinez has seen both Ohio State and USC from the inside. But he's never seen Jim Tressel with his shirt off.
At a camp at USC this summer, his son, John, an offensive lineman from Utah, was in the mix with a gaggle of players as one of the Trojans' strength coaches ripped off his shirt and began firing up the players by leading them in a tribal war chant.


The master of the grand gesture, Southern California coach Pete Carroll revels in leading the Trojans in the Los Angeles spotlight."You have Pete Carroll and all these other coaches saying the first thing you do before you get in a fight is you rip your shirt off," Steve Martinez recalled. "I could not see Jim Tressel in a group of men jumping up and down and screaming at the top of his lungs and ripping his shirt off."
Tressel shirtless? Carroll in a sweater vest? Tressel in Hollywood? Carroll carrying on Woody's legacy?

Both hired in 2001, each with national title wins and nearly identical records, Pete Carroll and Jim Tressel will go head-to-head for the first time on Saturday when No. 1 USC hosts the No. 5 Buckeyes. It's the regular-season game of the year because of what these coaches have accomplished in their first seven seasons at their schools, climbing to the top of the college football world with vastly different strides. Swapping jobs almost certainly wouldn't lead to the same kind of success.

"Coach Carroll would have to stay in Cali. I don't know if he'd know what to do with how slow it is in Ohio. He's a California guy," said Washington Redskins rookie tight end Fred Davis, a Toledo native who chose to attend USC over Ohio State. "And Coach Tressel, he knows how to get the job done, but I think they found their places. If Coach Tressel was in Hollywood somewhere, it might be too much for him."

They do use the same football and rulebook. Carroll is familiar with Ohio -- he was an assistant coach under Earle Bruce in 1979. So drop him in Columbus and he wouldn't be posting losing records each year. And remember, Tressel considered taking the job at Miami before he wound up at Youngstown State. If he pondered South Florida, he could deal with SoCal.

But there's a lot to be said for the right man at the right time for the right job. Asked Tuesday, both head coaches downplayed the differences, but when talking about the hiring process for college coaches last year, Tressel admitted that a regional familiarity was important. You need to know how a place works.

Carroll knows California, where despite the tradition, football is entertainment, just part of the scene in L.A. Tressel knows Ohio, where because of the tradition, football is religion, helping to define the state's identity.

"I've been telling people for years that Pete Carroll wouldn't work in Columbus because he doesn't take football seriously enough," said Dwight Yoder, a 1967 OSU grad and club seats season ticket holder who has lived in Los Angeles for nearly four decades.



Having developed a reputation as conservative as his famous sweater vest, Jim Tressel appears the perfect fit for a juggernaut in football's midwestern heartland."And Tressel out here, they would just keep pecking away at him, figuring that under that sweater vest is the real Jim Tressel who can't be this serious. He's just too Midwestern."
Former USC tailback Anthony Davis believes you can see the personalities of the coaches in the way their teams play, whether it be with exuberance or discipline. The culture clash offers a stark contrast for big-time recruits who consider the college football powers 2,300 miles apart.

The quotes of Ohio State receiver Ray Small have incited some USC fans already, after the Buckeyes' junior receiver said the difference between the schools was a "class thing," citing the anti-OSU remarks of former USC quarterback Carson Palmer.

Then Small added, "Here at Ohio State, they teach you to be a better man. There, it's just all about football."

But as a player who made an official visit to USC, along with Glenville teammate and future OSU teammate Rob Rose, before choosing Ohio State, Small had a insightful peak at two styles of preparation.

"As I took my visit to USC, I'm like, 'How are they successful? They're not even serious about the game,'" he said. "Before the game, they're all going crazy. Me and Rob Rose was on the visit and I'm looking like, 'Wow.' And then the coach said, 'You better get out of here. It's about to get hectic.'

"And then I come [to Columbus] on the visit and before the game, it's all quiet, everybody getting taped, coaches talking. It's the total opposite."

Asked the same question, OSU senior receiver Brian Robiskie, who spent a good chunk of his childhood in California, interrupted to say, "Completely different."

But he didn't think that, if it came to it, California living would alter Tressel's Ohio core.

"Nah, he'd have his Winner's Manual and have the guys getting ready," Robiskie said.

For some Buckeyes, the idea of playing at USC, where all practices are open, actor Will Ferrell and rapper Snoop Dogg have dropped by for visits and where Carroll has played public practical jokes on his players, doesn't seem right.

"I'm a blue-collar kid. I am not Hollywood in any way," said OSU left tackle Alex Boone, who had an offer from the Trojans. "I think Coach Tressel is like the rest of us here. He's blue collar, he's about going to work every day, he's keep your mind focused. It's not, 'Hey, let's have Celine Dion come to practice today.'"

Yet OSU tight end Rory Nicol said the members of Rascal Flatts, a country group from Columbus, usually come to OSU practices when they're in town for gigs. And he said Tressel has joked about inviting rapper Lil Wayne, a favorite of many players.

"Tress does some random things," Nicol said. "But I don't think he'd do it every year."

Whatever Carroll does, including swimming against Ferrell in a charity race that included a visit by the USC Song Girls, is clearly working. Kids want to play for him. From 2004 to 2006 USC had the top-rated recruiting class according to Rivals.com, and since Carroll's arrival, USC's average class rank is fourth, while Ohio State's is 14th.

"He's a California kid. He can speak to those kids. You could tell he was from Southern California when he was here," said Earle Bruce, who first hired Carroll as an assistant at Iowa State, then brought him to Columbus, and four years later hired Tressel as an assistant. "Pete is a fun and frolic guy and that's what they like about him and he fits in with them, which I don't think is bad. It's just the way it is."

And it's just the way Tressel is not.

"I think Tressel is perfect for this job and I think Pete is perfect for USC," Bruce said.

You can't separate these coaches from their football culture. And that means they're right where they belong.

SEPARATED AT BIRTH?


Pete Carroll and Jim Tressel, born 15 months apart in 1951 and 1952, were hired one month apart after the 2000 season and have achieved similar success in different environments. Since the 2001 season, USC is tied for the second-best record in college football, behind Texas, with Boise State, while Ohio State ranks fourth.

Records at school: Tressel 75-16 (.824), Carroll 77-14 (.846)

Age: Tressel 55, Carroll 56

Childhood homes:Tressel in Mentor and Berea, Ohio; Carroll in Larkspur, Calif., in the Bay Area.

Playing career:Tressel QB for one year at Baldwin-Wallace; Carroll was two-time all-conference safety at Pacific.

Salary:Tressel $3 million this season, $3.5 million in 2009; Carroll $4.4 million

First-round draft choices: Tressel 13; Carroll 11.

Heisman winners:Tressel 1; Carroll 3.

BCS bowls:Tressel 5; Carroll 6.

BCS title games:Tressel 3 (won 1); Carroll 2 (won 1).

National titles: Tressel 1; Carroll 2.

[Deehntr56]

From the LA Times!:D GO BUCKS!!!!

COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Ohio State Buckeyes' loyalty runs deep
Matthew Emmons / U.S. Presswire
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Ohio State's Malcolm Jenkins tries to rev up the crowd last week at Ohio Stadium, where the Buckeyes were hosting Ohio. Jenkins, an All-American cornerback last year, was one of more than a dozen potential NFL prospects who returned to school this fall rather than opting for the pro draft.
Several players who might have been picked in the upper rounds of the NFL draft decided to stay for their senior year and another shot at a national title.
By David Wharton, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 12, 2008

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Not that Malcolm Jenkins is given to second-guessing -- cornerbacks aren't supposed to dwell on the past -- but there are moments.

Like when the Ohio State senior walks into a restaurant, checks the prices and wonders about his decision to stick around rather than leave school early for the NFL.


Ohio State's roster includes no fewer than a dozen players who resisted the prospect of pro money last winter. The Buckeyes might be decided underdogs against top-ranked USC on Saturday, but they enter the Coliseum with 20 players who started last season.

Twenty veterans from a program that reached the last two national championship games.


"Think of all the transitions they don't have to make with new starters," USC Coach Pete Carroll said. "It gives them great continuity."

The hangers-on include two All-Americans on defense -- Jenkins and linebacker James Laurinaitis -- and another top linebacker in Marcus Freeman. On offense, quarterback Todd Boeckman, tackle Alex Boone and receivers Brian Hartline and Brian Robiskie submitted inquiries to the NFL.

One Buckeye did enter the draft last spring -- defensive lineman Vernon Gholston, a first-round pick by the New York Jets. But the predominant loyalty in Columbus would thrill most coaches, including Carroll, who believes most players should remain in school.

"That's the natural cycle," he said. "Anybody who decides to do that right and take advantage of it, I know they've done the right thing."

At Ohio State, a reported 25 players had left early since 1992. But the 2005 recruiting class vowed to stick together. Their pact was tested when Coach Jim Tressel encouraged 13 of his best players to make use of the NFL's draft evaluation before last season's national championship game.

"As a group, we had said we were coming back," Freeman recalled. "But each of us had to go and think about it on our own."

They weighed family circumstances and their chances of being high picks. After two straight losses in title games, there was an aspect of unfinished business but also the risk of a career-ending injury. And each player wondered what his colleagues would decide.

"Me and James [Laurinaitis] talked a little bit," Jenkins said. "We never said what we were going to do."

If a substantial portion of the 13 left, the remaining team would be weakened. On the flipside, Freeman said, "you didn't want to be the one guy who leaves and misses out."

Michigan faced a similar situation the year before, when offensive tackle Jake Long, tailback Mike Hart and quarterback Chad Henne stayed in school. Long said he wanted to achieve certain goals, including a victory over Ohio State.

The Buckeyes cite different motivations.

Laurinaitis talks about being "seriously in love" with the team, its fans and the city of Columbus. Jenkins considered the NFL's business-like atmosphere, saying: "I wasn't ready to make football a job."

Whatever the reasons, their return has paid immediate dividends for the Buckeyes.

Laurinaitis and Freeman lead the team in tackles. Jenkins already has an interception. Despite an injury to tailback Chris Wells, Ohio State is averaging more than 200 rushing yards behind Boone and the veteran offensive line.

Most important, the Buckeyes overcame a shaky start to engineer a second-half comeback last week against Ohio, improving to 2-0.

"These guys have won a ton of games together," Carroll said. "They know how to do it. They've played in all settings."

Tressel realizes this season could have been much different if a chunk of his upperclassmen had left. He wants them to feel they made the right choice.

"You feel a certain responsibility," he said. "Oh, I hope they get better."

Upsetting the top-ranked team in the nation would help. But Freeman says he is already convinced.

The linebacker talks about bonding with teammates. The butterflies he gets when hearing the band. The roar of the crowd.

"You're not just making the decision to go play in the NFL and make a little more money -- you're making a life change," he said. "I'm happy being a kid here."

[Deehntr56]

USC-Ohio State tickets are hot commodity online

Gary Friedman / Los Angeles Times


8:28 PM PDT, September 11, 2008
Scarlet and gray aren't likely to overwhelm cardinal and gold in the stands during Saturday's game at the Coliseum, but resale tickets clearly are a hot commodity online, especially for Buckeyes fans.

By the time the teams take the field, StubHub, USC's preferred online ticket reseller, will have brokered about 6,500 sales -- double to triple the number of transactions that the San Francisco company normally handles in advance of a big college football game.


At least a quarter of the tickets purchased early on were dispatched to Ohio ZIP Codes, StubHub reports, and even more are expected to end up in the hands of Buckeyes fans. " Ohio State University has a large, national fan base, and it's very likely that some of those tickets are going to some of its fans who are residing in California," said StubHub spokesman Sean Pate.

The company doesn't disclose the dollar value of resold tickets, but Saturday's game already has become the only non-professional sports contest or regular-season college contest to crack the company's top 10 sales list, which includes NFL and Major League Baseball games and the two most recent Bowl Championship Series title games.

The game bulled its way onto the list on sales volume rather than price alone.


The average resale price on StubHub for the two most recent BCS championship games, for example, topped $1,300, and the average price for a ticket to Michigan's upcoming game in Columbus already has risen to $700.

But the average price for a ticket to Saturday's Big Game on Thursday afternoon -- courtesy of the Coliseum's 93,000-plus seats and a seemingly ample supply of Trojans ticketholders looking to make a buck -- was $476 on TicketsNow, another online company, and $398 on StubHub.

That's not to say fans aren't paying a premium for good seats.

TicketsNow.com on Thursday offered a pair of tickets near the middle of the field for $5,439.15 -- and a close-in parking pass for $268. StubHub's most expensive ticket -- for a seat on the 35-yard-line -- went for $2,500.

But it's been harder for sellers to draw top dollar for seats in the vast Coliseum's far reaches. StubHub's lowest-priced ticket, for example, was $110 for a seat in an upper corner.

Columbus businessman Matthew Pontius, who early this month listed a pair of seats in the nosebleed section on EBay, happily let them go for $496. The tickets had been returned by a customer who wasn't able to use them. The Buckeyes fan canceled his trip to Los Angeles after becoming a father.

"It's fantastic that he has the new baby, but he had to give up tickets to the biggest game of the year, along with a reserved room at the downtown Marriott in L.A.," Pontius said. "I guess he did the right thing by sacrificing the game for the baby."

[jeffmo]

i saw a pair of tickets on e-bay and the buy it now price was $2200!!!:yikes:
i'd rather see the osu/michigan game.

[TheCream]

I do have some legitimate concerns about this game as a Buckeye fan. Can our defensive line hang with the USC O-line? Can our defensive coach come up with an attacking scheme to slow the speedy USC playmakers down? Can we put any kind of pressure on Sanchez?

Our offense should find some rythm if they don't drop passes. They'll score 21-24 points anyway. Will that be enough?

Special teams play could be HUGE in this game!

Kyle

Kyle, I went back and watched the film of OSU-Miami in the '03 Fiesta Bowl, because I feel like this game is somewhat similar. The slow Big Ten team with little offense vs. the mighty Trojans and all the speed and playmakers. That game was won by the front 7 defensively, and I think that is the blueprint for this one, as well. If Heyward, Wilson, Laurinaitis, Freeman, etc... can hit Sanchez, hurry him, penetrate the O-line, they can slow down their offense enough to win. I think if Sanchez can sit back and progress through his reads without being rushed USC will dominate OSU. Offensive balance, no turnovers, defensive pressure, and great special teams is what it will take to win in LA tomorrow night. It will be a very tall order. :irked:

[Redhunter1012]

Everything I watch on ESPN has most of the so called "Experts" predicting a USC blowout. I seriously can't see it. Whether Wells plays or not, I see it being a 4-7 point game.

[coonskinner]

its up to the defense#1...pressure on the qb...causing turnovers that will lead to defensive points...if the defense can add on a touchdown or 2...osu wins...:mischeif:

[Eyeslayer]

I just don't think our Bucks can handle Trojans. SC has alot of skill players that will hurt us. Boeckman isn't good enough to lead our team past a quality opponent. I do believe Wells will play though. I think Tressell is trying to fake them a little.

[coonskinner]

[QUOTE=Eyeslayer;268898]I just don't think our Bucks can handle Trojans. SC has alot of skill players that will hurt us. Boeckman isn't good enough to lead our team past a quality opponent. I do believe Wells will play though. I think Tressell is trying to fake them a little.[/QUOTE

i am wondering if the ou game an wells ain a trick too...an maybe the insertion of that new qb...an a "surprise"track star(high school)that tressel been hiding...i got this from somebuddy that knows a very high up osu person...:D uh but bout beany news qain as good there but it doan matter...watch the offensive line suddenly snap out of it from ou game...:dizzy:

[Eyeslayer]

Coonskinner, I think the line needs to play meaner. They are probably the weakest part of the team.

[struttin]

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[Redhunter1012]

Basically what everybody already knew. OSU's lines on both sides are a little lackluster and Boeckman cannot lead a team if he needs to.

[Deehntr56]

Ohhhh Man this is hard to watch





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LMAO!!!!

GOOD MORNING OHIO!!!!

Now we all know!!

USC Played a great game and established themsleves as THE team to beat.

Great Game played by their players, well coached and prepared, and the Buckeyes were beat in all phases of the game.

Line play by the younger USC team was exceptional on both sides of the ball.

The coaches adjusting to Pryor and Boeckman by adjusting the lineman on their defnese for each specific quarterback was a great move.

Without Beenie, they made our offense one dimensional and challenged our QB's to beat them. They got their lunch handed to them!!!

Our Defense missed tackles, made mistakes, mised assignments and did not execute. Our Linbacking play was Horrible!!!

Our offenses is still with no identity, and confused. The 2 quarterback situation is exactly what we had with zwick/smith....and Boeckman is a pocket passer.... asking him to do oterwise is a bad coaching decision. This only shows they are going to pryor soon!!!!

Our offensive line was ineffective.

They have lots of work to do!!!!

The great news yesterday....Michigan got butt whupped by Weis and the Boys 35-17 :biggrin: :biggrin:

GO BUCKS!!!!

[coonskinner]

Coonskinner, I think the line needs to play meaner. They are probably the weakest part of the team.

well what do you think...i seen them just standing while the play was still going on...i'm starting to wonder about these great recruits osu is getting...these are players with xperience...theyre big,lean,muscles...i've personally seen some of these guys in street clothes...maybe they lack toughness...and how good is a back thats hurt all the time...geeze their qb was playing hurt...seems osu coulda put him on the bench early...where was the meanness...:Dbut on the other hand maybe again they are just the second best team...thats another discussion and cooper was fired because of that...

[geezer II]

well what do you think...i seen them just standing while the play was still going on...i'm starting to wonder about these great recruits osu is getting...these are players with xperience...theyre big,lean,muscles...i've personally seen some of these guys in street clothes...maybe they lack toughness...and how good is a back thats hurt all the time...geeze their qb was playing hurt...seems osu coulda put him on the bench early...where was the meanness...:Dbut on the other hand maybe again they are just the second best team...thats another discussion and cooper was fired because of that...

they should sell the os football team to the bio-warefare division of the military - they stink :mischeif:

[Deehntr56]

well what do you think...i seen them just standing while the play was still going on...i'm starting to wonder about these great recruits osu is getting...these are players with xperience...theyre big,lean,muscles...i've personally seen some of these guys in street clothes...maybe they lack toughness...and how good is a back thats hurt all the time...geeze their qb was playing hurt...seems osu coulda put him on the bench early...where was the meanness...:Dbut on the other hand maybe again they are just the second best team...thats another discussion and cooper was fired because of that...

LAMO!!!

Yep....get pissed and that Pit Bull menatilty!!!! I like it!:biggrin: :biggrin:

No one was as bad as cooper...well not yet!!:biggrin:

CS....Their getting the offense ready for Pryor......you can see that in the play calling from day 1....Boeckman knows his days were numbered from the beginning.

GO BUCKS!!!

[deerhunt45]

Well, it sure wasn't pretty :nono: :(

The offensive game plan sucked. It fooled no one. All it did was tire both qbs just running in and out from the sidelines :dizzy: :coco:

I thought the officials made a terrible call on the touchdown that was called back, other than that I thought it was called ok. USC is clearly a talented and potent team on both sides of the ball. Kudos to them for their preparation and inspired play. Shame of OSU and Tressel for a very piss poor game plan imo. The players didn't respond to it well at all. They look confused :confused:

[coonskinner]

Well, it sure wasn't pretty :nono: :(

The offensive game plan sucked. It fooled no one. All it did was tire both qbs just running in and out from the sidelines :dizzy: :coco:

I thought the officials made a terrible call on the touchdown that was called back, other than that I thought it was called ok. USC is clearly a talented and potent team on both sides of the ball. Kudos to them for their preparation and inspired play. Shame of OSU and Tressel for a very piss poor game plan imo. The players didn't respond to it well at all. They look confused :confused:

the offense lacks no long threats...wheres the wspeedy recievers we have had recently til now...tressel has always liked defense an a kicking game...an these other teams/coaches know that...:bouncy:

[TheCream]

I hate seeing them blown out, but I think we can take solace in knowing it was done by the best team in the country. The sad thing is that they were a bogus holding call away from being in a 14-10 ball game, and I really felt at the time not getting points late in the 1st half broke the Buckeye backs. If they could have been in at half down 14-10, they could stick to their game plan and keep pounding the ball. Instead, they are forced to play catch-up and that is something this team is not built to do.

Hats off to USC, they came to play and proved they are #1. I see nobody beating them until possibly early January. Nobody in their conference, especially after UCLA, Oregon, and Cal all looked terrible, should challenge USC in the Pac 10.

[CritterGitter]

Haycock has got to go. He sucks bad! In every big game they know exactly how to beat us. Throw to a hot receiver on a 3 step drop every time we blitz. We don't play press-man to man coverage so they can complete that pass nearly every time. This teams's blitzes almost never get to the QB. The amount of talent we have and it gets wasted by a defensive cordinator that has no confidence in the secondary to play man to man? Unbelievalbe. At least Dantonio would use man to man coverage at times.

The offense looked anemic, but if our defense played better like it is capable of then they might have been able to get into a rythm. Anyway, hats off to USC as they played great.

The officials were terrible and I mean that both ways. They were calling stuff all night long and were way to involved in the game. Let the kids play the freakin game. It's a big game and those idiots blowing their whistle every other play took away from it to some degree.

I am now worried about the Troy game. They have the talent to beat us if we don't play well. I hope this team realizes that!

Kyle

[Deehntr56]

Gentlemen……every game is different. You have to sit back and look into the future if your going to improve and become better.

If you dwell on the past, then you won’t be prepared for the future. It was a tough loss…a bigger loss then we expected, but it is what it is.

I think lots of us have been involved in sports and see it all the time. I have seen it for teams that I coached as well.

I remember my sons 11 year old Travel Baseball team that won the State Title that year. We spanked many teams we played. We ten run ruled over 20 teams that year. We went 63-4 that year. We had some close calls with very good teams, but either pitched to the win, or got a big hit at the right time to win it. We came close to losing to some teams we shouldn’t of and lost a few games we shouldn’t have. It all balances out at the end…sometimes. The team was loaded with young talent, and won 5 tournaments that year in 3 states, didn’t even come in second in any of them. Then one day we played a team that barely could beat them selves let alone anyone else. That team came out to play, and we didn’t. They had somewhere like 9 wins and 16 loses against mediocre teams. We lost 9-3 that day. These kids played their hearts out and that made their season. That loss was just before the end of the year, and right before we entered the state Tournament.

I was worried it would destroy the morale of our team. They were down and upset and the State title was coming. They were young, and didn’t understand.

2 Boys called a team meeting behind closed doors and regrouped. I just sat back and relaxed and watched.

Man, you would think these were college kids Jawing each other. I was concerned the loss would carry over and end the season on a negative note. They determined why it happened, went over the game inning by inning, and realized they just had a “bad game” and did not prepare themselves mentally to play that team. They got re-focused.

They came out the following week at the state Tournament and won all nine games to take the title……sometimes you just need a kick in the pants…sometimes you need some focus…..sometimes you realize you aren’t as good as you really “think” you are…..but sometimes these games like last Saturday…just test your will and ability….and how they play the rest of the season will tell you what this team is about!!!!!

Wells…..or no wells….it’s a team game…..OSU lost as a team……good teams find ways to win in difficult times and other players “rise” up to fill in…….they just weren’t as good as USC……that day.

What OSU team will we see the next 2 months or so???? Time will tell......but if they are good...they'll rebound...if not......who knows!!!

Go BUCKS!!!:biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

First and foremost in college football, talent usually prevails. OSU's weakest part is the O-Line. For all those bashing me about mentioning Cordle's weight, watch the game film closely. They continually beat him like he stole something just by overpowering him. The rest of the O line wasn't any better. The thing is, OSU starts 3 players on the line that are projects that they turned into servicable players. Sure, they'll do good in the Big 10, but against Elite talent it will show. Laurinitis should be playing Outside LB instead of in the middle. Boeckman was his good old self against the pressure. I'd say by the lasy 4 games That Shugarts will start at RT, Brewster at RG, and Browning to LG. Marcus Hall and Corey Adams become even bigger recruits for OSU now. BTW, did anybody at any time ever figure out exactly what OSU was trying to do offensively? Reminded me of the Mike DeBord years at UM.

[coonskinner]

I hate seeing them blown out, but I think we can take solace in knowing it was done by the best team in the country. The sad thing is that they were a bogus holding call away from being in a 14-10 ball game, and I really felt at the time not getting points late in the 1st half broke the Buckeye backs. If they could have been in at half down 14-10, they could stick to their game plan and keep pounding the ball. Instead, they are forced to play catch-up and that is something this team is not built to do.

Hats off to USC, they came to play and proved they are #1. I see nobody beating them until possibly early January. Nobody in their conference, especially after UCLA, Oregon, and Cal all looked terrible, should challenge USC in the Pac 10.

no xcuses they are a far superior team...even with wells we would have got beat...the offensive line is pathetic...and even against ou this showed ...remember the 4th and 18" against ou and ou pushed back osus line and stopped them short...an the defense...wheres the great wide recievers we've had in the past,the great secondary,the core of linebackers...wheres all these great players... theyre always rated 1st or 2nd in recruiting...where are they...osu is gonna have a tough time getting by wisc. and penn...might not even win the div...shoot mich. might still be a battle...is it the cup cake schedule...i doan know but they have seemed to be lacking in winning the big game outside of the conf....no matter who's coachin...mich. program has been slipping since shembecler left...so is that such a big deal any more...mich. is practically a givin anymore...go after the championship with the same ferousity as for mich...:D

[Deehntr56]

Yes CS...In the last 2 games it showed our Line being Human....they are still very good, much better than 80% of the other lines in College, and quite a few teams would love to have them...they weren't that good...that day....
just not as good as USC's.!!!

Look at the bright side..We lost to a very good team....a Team that could win it all.....and we didn't have 6 Turnovers and gave up tons of points to a mediocre Notre Dame team!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

[coonskinner]

Yes CS...In the last 2 games it showed our Line being Human....they are still very good, much better than 80% of the other lines in College, and quite a few teams would love to have them...they weren't that good...that day....
just not as good as USC's.!!!

Look at the bright side..We lost to a very good team....a Team that could win it all.....and we didn't have 6 Turnovers and gave up tons of points to a mediocre Notre Dame team!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

then those ou bobcats must have a purty good team too...they hung in the trenches with them...thet were suspect last year and it looks like they could be this year...but hey they got good players...so improvement is possible...:D

[Deehntr56]

then those ou bobcats must have a purty good team too...they hung in the trenches with them...thet were suspect last year and it looks like they could be this year...but hey they got good players...so improvement is possible...:D

For the Bobcats only....yes...remember..we have "friends" that coach on that team and players from "up here" that make that team respectable!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:


Why do you think they hung with the Buckeyes???:biggrin: :biggrin: ;)

[coonskinner]

i think boone an rering can do better too...boone had to resort to holding...these two should be much better,,,wow remember pace...nice memory there...:D

[TheCream]

i think boone an rering can do better too...boone had to resort to holding...these two should be much better,,,wow remember pace...nice memory there...:D

Pace=pancake blocks

Gosh I miss trhose days. :nono: Then again, those teams under Cooper were probably the most under-achieving in OSU history. All that talent and no national titles...hardly any Big Ten titles, and could almost never beat UM. That last part of those days I do not miss. :mischeif:

[Deehntr56]

Pace=pancake blocks

Gosh I miss trhose days. :nono: Then again, those teams under Cooper were probably the most under-achieving in OSU history. All that talent and no national titles...hardly any Big Ten titles, and could almost never beat UM. That last part of those days I do not miss. :mischeif:


There isn't a coach in college football currently or in the past, that I didn't like as much as cooper.:biggrin:

[stumphole 2]

we didn't have 6 Turnovers and gave up tons of points to a mediocre Notre Dame team!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:


You can't go a day without ripping on U of M. Does that make you feel better for getting waxed Saturday?

Did you play the game? If you did at what level? (serious question. not Bashing)

As I stated before Michigan is in a rebuilding phase for a couple of years. I just don't understand why you have to bash a team just to justify your loss.

[Deehntr56]

You can't go a day without ripping on U of M. Does that make you feel better for getting waxed Saturday?

Did you play the game? If you did at what level? (serious question. not Bashing)

As I stated before Michigan is in a rebuilding phase for a couple of years. I just don't understand why you have to bash a team just to justify your loss.

Stumphole....read all the posts HERE in the OHIO forum bashng the Buckeyes from those that don't like them and answer your own question......and me stating 6 turnovers and giving up tons of points only reiterates the FACTS of that loss on Saturday...you can take that any way you like...it is what it is.....

Look at all the posts from the Buckeye fans,...their critical and make no EXCUSES for their loss on Saturday...we know the situation and live up to it. IT is what it is.

In regards to my playing time......let's just say I have been involved with youth sports and sports in general (most likely longer) than you have been alive, and know enough about individuals to make my own assessment of that person....if you get my underlying comment......

and your playing time stumphole....????

You have a choice...you can say what you want, but if you do it here and you want to have some fun...get your sadlle on..... your going for a ride.

Were not the ones going into a Michigan Forum and talking trash and creating a situation...if we did, then we would be the ones deserving of a good verbal lashing..look deep my friend....:tsk:

[paulwv]

:biggrin: :biggrin: Hey John.....we need to get some of those WV boys on that Bobcat team also :whistle:........but yeah...we'll take Molls next year....with you saying he's a dandy I am sure he is and will make the difference.....Not to hijack here from Buckeyes to Bobcats...but those Ohio games are a blast to go to...they may not win all the games but they are neck and neck with the wins right in their grasp every game......hey lost to Central Michigan 31-28...played catch up in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. Had a touch down coming late in the 4th when we fumbled on the 1 yard line and coughed up the ball to CM......My son is having a time of his life.....and Frank Solich needs all the credit in getting the Bobcats respectable......Great COACH....

Ah now back to the Buckeyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know.....Rich Fraudriguez has made alot of Buckeye fans from WV....:biggrin: ....

[coonskinner]

i played high school football back in the late 60s...the plains(indians) high school(doan xist anymore)...so do that make me a credible arm chair coreback...:D

[Deehntr56]

Paul...yes Danny will be good for you...he did well this past weekend again, made some great plays and has a great attitude too. Solich and "the boy", like I told you earlier, will like him!:biggrin:

Just a little heads up....he may be bringing some "others" with him:biggrin: ........well see how that develops.:biggrin:


I saw some of the Highlights of the game...they are definitely improving.:)

And I am sure, the Buckeye Fan Base is "really big" in WV........

On another note..Brian Hoyer had a nice game last weekend for Michigan State too...his Mom is pretty proud of him right now......she was saying he wants to have a good year this year, since it "may" be his last year playing. He has an outside chance of possibly playing pro......later round potential, if he can complete a decent year.


CS..We never played your team from down south in Wayne...., that was before my time:whistle: , but I am sure we would of had our hands full...!:biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

i played high school football back in the late 60s...the plains(indians) high school(doan xist anymore)...so do that make me a credible arm chair coreback...:D

Hell yea Goerge! As far as Dee, I respect him for teaching sports to youth, especially in the part of the State he is in. Lotsa bad things kids could do instead. But Stumphole, to answer your question: No, they can't go on with their loss without pointing out the 6 turnovers a Freshmen laden team from UM playing their first road game had in Monsoon conditions nonetheless. Me, I just say we sucked, but I have a lot of positives I seen in our performance. Minus the sloppy conditions, our Offense is progressing at a rapid pace. McGuffie will be the best RB in the Big 10 next year whether Beanie returns or not. And I'll say this with the upmost confidence, OSU and St. Tress better figure out how to play a fast, explosive Offense sometime within the next year or so because UM is gonna blow them out of the water if they come with a defense like the one they have played the last 2 NC's and against USC.

[Fish-n-Fool]

Red - I typically agree with most of your thoughts on CFB, but I have to call you on the McGuffie better than Beanie:coco: That is completely insane talk there my friend - no way, no how. And if you want to make your wager about fishing, etc. on who is taken higher in the draft, who has more head to head wins, and who has a better yards per carry average I am all for it. I can come up with something - maybe a boat trip on Erie as I troll and drift up there as much as I can. Even with his injuries Beanie is a FAR superior TB than McGuffie can ever be. You just don't come across a 245lb guy that runs like Beanie, BLOCKS like Beanie, and can mow DEs, LBs, and safeties right over. A healthy Beanie is an instant starter on Sunday because he is the full package. McGuffie will be lucky to ever make a start on a Sunday at TB. He looks like a returner on special teams if he makes the league at all.

And there is a HUGE difference in OSU defending UM's offense with a shifty little back - your O line stinks. We won't be 5 yards deep on every play when we line up against UM & we won't need fancy blitz packages. Through the years I've watched OSU face a number of "McGuffies" and they have never hurt us. Sproles went for a bunch of yards, but didn't hit paydirt.
K State had Roberson - bigger and at least as fast and shifty - I think he went for 60 some yards in that bowl game. They rack up yards between the 20's on losing efforts - I see the same thing occuring with this kid; lots of yards by virtue of getting the ball all the time and being involved. I think we will be just fine running our crappy defense against RR.

The good news is we will find out in just a couple months when we see Beanie and McGuffie on the same field. I just don't see where all the buzz is on this kid - his straight line speed looks darn right slow to me; I actually belive Beanie can out run him going down the field. He gets his yards shifting side to side.

[Redhunter1012]

I'll restate it. McGuffie will have more total yards than any other back in the Big 10 next year, providing he not get injured. As far as playing on Sundays, your being a little naive if you think he'll never make it. Shawn Alexander, Reggie Bush, and numerous other professional athletes have mentioned to the UM staff that McGuffie is the most impressive athlete they have ever seen come out of High school. Many industry insiders compare him to Reggie Bush, but more powerful. I admit Beanie is good, but you guys can't possibly think he's better than Moreno. I'd take C.J. Spiller and demarco Murray over him. Beanie is so injury prone that it'll scare some pro teams. He's nevr gonna stay healthy the way he runs. Big backs like him wear down alot quicker than smaller ones. I don't even think he was the best RB in the Coliseum on Saturday.

[Fish-n-Fool]

I guess we can agree to disagree on McGuffie - I'm talking about the better player on all levels, not just college ball. College ball doesn't translate to the big stage - look no further than your career rushing leader - M. Hart. Hart will never play on Sundays and isn't even a servicable backup TB at the professional level. He will get a ton of yards as he will get the ball 60%+ of the snaps. I totally disagree about his power and he is smaller than any of those guys you mentioned.

And to even mention him with those guys at this point seems a bit brash - he has accomplished nothing and played against less than top notch competition. I'd take Clay at Wisconsin on my team before I want another scat back.

And we can still make that bet about average yards per carry, head to head wins and eventually the NFL draft. Just a friendly wager like the fishing trips mentioned. I'd ove to share the bank on the river with you when the careers are finished up:biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

I guess we can agree to disagree on McGuffie - I'm talking about the better player on all levels, not just college ball. College ball doesn't translate to the big stage - look no further than your career rushing leader - M. Hart. Hart will never play on Sundays and isn't even a servicable backup TB at the professional level. He will get a ton of yards as he will get the ball 60%+ of the snaps. I totally disagree about his power and he is smaller than any of those guys you mentioned.

And to even mention him with those guys at this point seems a bit brash - he has accomplished nothing and played against less than top notch competition. I'd take Clay at Wisconsin on my team before I want another scat back.

And we can still make that bet about average yards per carry, head to head wins and eventually the NFL draft. Just a friendly wager like the fishing trips mentioned. I'd ove to share the bank on the river with you when the careers are finished up:biggrin:


If you wanna fish the walleye run, just let me know. You don't have to wait on a bet. I wasn't comparing McGuffie to those guys. I think he'll eventually be a first day pick. I was comparing Beanie's overall production and potential to those guys. As far as Clay, he was begging UM to offer and they never did. I liked him and wanted him for that matter. I think grades may have played a part. Also, UM coulda had Darrell Scott who was the top back last year, but instead told him No and went with McGuffie. Fred Jackson who is the RB coach at UM repeatedly said himself and was told by numerous others that McGuffie was one of the greatest Highschool RB's they had seen in a very long time. Everyone said he was the best athlete to come out of the Houston ara since Vince Young. Alot of people will Knock on McGuffie as a top RB because he is white. This is kinda pointless I guess because it'll be awhile before his complete body of work can be judged.

[CritterGitter]

I haven't seen much of Mcguffie, but what little I saw of him he looked really good. He is fast and shifty. He reminds me of a Desean Jackson or a Reggie Bush. Very versatile. I don't know how good he is with breaking tackles, but he definately looks dangerous in space and if he stays healthy I think he'll be a heck of a back.

Kyle

[Redhunter1012]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mcguffie+mixtape&search_type=&aq=3&oq=McGu



Here is McGuffie's highshool video. Watch the mixtape, it's unreal

[coonskinner]

macduffy woan do squat if he doan have no blockers...mich. may have a way to go for a complete team...maybe not...personally i hate seein em down like this...the big ten doan need another flunky team...as for osu...if osu plays wisc. this year that could be a problem...thats one team that gives osu fits...:mischeif:

[coonskinner]

Paul...yes Danny will be good for you...he did well this past weekend again, made some great plays and has a great attitude too. Solich and "the boy", like I told you earlier, will like him!:biggrin:

Just a little heads up....he may be bringing some "others" with him:biggrin: ........well see how that develops.:biggrin:


I saw some of the Highlights of the game...they are definitely improving.:)

And I am sure, the Buckeye Fan Base is "really big" in WV........

On another note..Brian Hoyer had a nice game last weekend for Michigan State too...his Mom is pretty proud of him right now......she was saying he wants to have a good year this year, since it "may" be his last year playing. He has an outside chance of possibly playing pro......later round potential, if he can complete a decent year.


CS..We never played your team from down south in Wayne...., that was before my time:whistle: , but I am sure we would of had our hands full...!:biggrin:

we only had 13 players...:D

[Deehntr56]

I guess we can agree to disagree on McGuffie - I'm talking about the better player on all levels, not just college ball. College ball doesn't translate to the big stage - look no further than your career rushing leader - M. Hart. Hart will never play on Sundays and isn't even a servicable backup TB at the professional level. He will get a ton of yards as he will get the ball 60%+ of the snaps. I totally disagree about his power and he is smaller than any of those guys you mentioned.

And to even mention him with those guys at this point seems a bit brash - he has accomplished nothing and played against less than top notch competition. I'd take Clay at Wisconsin on my team before I want another scat back.

And we can still make that bet about average yards per carry, head to head wins and eventually the NFL draft. Just a friendly wager like the fishing trips mentioned. I'd ove to share the bank on the river with you when the careers are finished up:biggrin:


LMAO @ CS!!!!

FNF......I'm with you on McGuffie......I watched him now a few times, and after reviewing him, and assessing his abilities.....he'll be ok. Definitely Not a Beenie caliber player.

Something about him just doesn't click. Speed is decent, has decent vision, but I think "my evaluation" has to do more with mental ability, attitude and his size.

Way to early to make any assesment since he hasn't played against top 20 teams and quick defenses.

Now Wells after 5-6 games I knew...and there was no doubt......

Out on a limb...Boom and Jamaal will do well the next 2-3 years!

[coonskinner]

i doan think wells is near being a clarett or eddie george...personally i doan know where all this hype came from bout him...doan matter though if he's injury prone...like ken griffy jr...great player when he's in the line up...:D hope he gets well heh heh so we can see how great he is...hopefully the off. wakes up to help some...:eek:

[Redhunter1012]

I watch enough film to know that Boom isn't close to the playmaker McGuffie is. Berry is a similar player. Dee, how the hell do you evaluate somebody's attitude and mental ability by watching him as little as you have? Are you a shrink now? Tel your boy Beanie to tape up his toe and show that he can play more than a few games in a row. You wanna talk about mental makeup and ability. When is he gonna play hurt?

[coonskinner]

he do have a pro career tuh think bout yuh know...he coulda booked,prolly shoulda it beginning to seem...for his benefit that is...:D

[Redhunter1012]

he do have a pro career tuh think bout yuh know...he coulda booked,prolly shoulda it beginning to seem...for his benefit that is...:D

Actually Coonie, he couldn't have yet. He is only a Jr. now, and you can't declare for the NFL draft till after your Academic Junior season. My point is that Dee is saying he knows somebody's mental makeup that I seriously doubt he has watched for more than a handful of plays. But his all time great Buckeye player has sat out a bunch because of nagging injuries his whole career, but nothing about him.

[jeffmo]

well he DID have that big game against michigan last year.you know,the one where he had well over 200 yards.the same game where harts mouth got more yardage than his feet?

[coonskinner]

well he DID have that big game against michigan last year.you know,the one where he had well over 200 yards.the same game where harts mouth got more yardage than his feet?

mich.!!!oh that team that lost to app.state last year...:mischeif:

[Redhunter1012]

mich.!!!oh that team that lost to app.state last year...:mischeif:

You've heard that one too huh Coonie?:)

[Deehntr56]

well he DID have that big game against michigan last year.you know,the one where he had well over 200 yards.the same game where harts mouth got more yardage than his feet?

Gotta Love Jeffmo!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[stumphole 2]

Stumphole....read all the posts HERE in the OHIO forum bashng the Buckeyes from those that don't like them and answer your own question......and me stating 6 turnovers and giving up tons of points only reiterates the FACTS of that loss on Saturday...you can take that any way you like...it is what it is.....

Look at all the posts from the Buckeye fans,...their critical and make no EXCUSES for their loss on Saturday...we know the situation and live up to it. IT is what it is.

In regards to my playing time......let's just say I have been involved with youth sports and sports in general (most likely longer) than you have been alive, and know enough about individuals to make my own assessment of that person....if you get my underlying comment......

and your playing time stumphole....????

You have a choice...you can say what you want, but if you do it here and you want to have some fun...get your sadlle on..... your going for a ride.

Were not the ones going into a Michigan Forum and talking trash and creating a situation...if we did, then we would be the ones deserving of a good verbal lashing..look deep my friend....:tsk:

Don't preach to me. I played high school and at the college level as well. my trash talking is a reaction to yours. I don't care if you coach at the youth level, so what you are saying is you never played the game. Correct? So longer than I have been alive huh. you must be older than dirt.

[jeffmo]

stump,where'd ya play and what years?
as far as dee being old as dirt goes you need to remember that you don't get to be old by being a fool.

[Redhunter1012]

stump,where'd ya play and what years?
as far as dee being old as dirt goes you need to remember that you don't get to be old by being a fool.

No, you get to be a blind Buckeye fan by being a fool:)

[Fish-n-Fool]

Man - you guys are getting bad and it is 2 full months before The Game....

Truth is both of these teams are underachieving - nobody in Columbus is happy with the way we are playing in all three phases and expected much more through 4 weeks. Most around the program realized it would be an upset for OSU to go out to LA and come back with a win, but I wouldn't take any team in CFB to do that and anybody that says otherwise is simply talking or doesn't know much about SC football. That being said the defense is REALLY playing bad - they have given up a TON of rushing yardage and are woeful on allowing 3rd down conversions - something OSU has been at the top of the nation in year after year. The offense is fine, even with TP; Beanie gets back in and things change for the better day 1. TP is going to make some mistakes, but at this point he is our only choice as TB is doing terrible in practice and by all accounts has lost his confidence.

Everybody expected UM to be in re-tooling mode, although there were a few people clamering about 10 wins it wasn't realistic. I imagine people up there are satisfied with the offensive progress as it is getting better and frankly wouldn't look so bad if not for a lot of stupid freshman mistakes. UM has to be equally disappointed as Buckeyes with the horrific play of the defense which was expected to be the second best unit in the league and the strength of the team. They are playing horrible and for them to win this year they need to play good to great to compensate for the learning curve on offense.

Remember though - neither of these teams are where they will end up. They will both be far better than they are now. I think the Bucks just may shut everybody in the league up next saturday night by beating a very solid Wisconsin team in Madison; which is THE toughest place to play in our league and maybe the country. PSU tries, but it just isn't as difficult as playing in Madison - I've been to both and let me tell you it is crazy up there in Madison and at a night game it is extreme. The Bucks seem to be coming together and there have been some wholesale changes made for the better - especially the D-line positions. With Heyword inside and Gibson taking his spot on the edge we are getting much better fast.

UM will lose a few more, but they'll be better for it. You think they won't be hungry in 2009:tsk: And yes OSU is recruiting great, but UM is not far behind and then there is the rest of the league. Nothing has changed in that the constant in Big ten football is OSU, UM. The other teams come and go, but OSU/UM will remain the cream of the league for the long haul.

[coonskinner]

so any predictions on what osu's final win loss record will be...:mischeif:i say they'll have 3 losses...at best