wells...a trick

[coonskinner]

hmmm now wouldnt that be somethin...any good reasons if they were fakin:yikes: all this...i mean ou will be an easy game...:mischeif:

[Deehntr56]

You never know....you "may" just never know:biggrin:

[jeffmo]

safe at last!!!!!
i'm gonna stay here for a while.i keep getting kicked in the raisins in the other discussions!:bouncy: :bouncy: but i can take it though!!!
i think wells was definately hurt but maybe not as bad as they were letting on.i figure tressel isn't going to take any chances with him until they go to the west coast then they'll loosen up the reins and let him stretch his legs.
it'd be a real bummer if they lose to usc.
i would like to see ohio u do decently.being a former bobcat(rec. management major w/ a concentration in wilderness skills),i like to see them do well.
the spread is 36 or so points though.we'll get to see what alot of the backup kids can do.just a hunch but personally i like that herron kid and think he's gonna have a good career at osu.

[coonskinner]

an i wonder is osu just lettin ou play them close then miraculously pullin it out in second half...trickin usc...when they get out there an really show the REAL OSU... AN SLAUGHTER USC...TRESSEL BEING A GENIUS COACH HE IS/SUPPOSE TO BE...:whistle: :D :nono:

[deerhunt45]

I don't know what's going on. Going to watch some of the second half and see...

Yea, I don't think Tressel is going to let everything out of the bag today. He's savin it for next week :D

[coonskinner]

OU JUS GAVE OSU A BIG BREAK...:mischeif:I'M GOIN OVER THERE...

[deerhunt45]

OSU finally in control and playing like they should. What the heck happened or didn't happen in the first half? Defense gave up 14 :confused:

[jeffmo]

yeah,they played as flat as a pancake in the 1st half.
the 2nd half was a different story.the offensive line woke up and that seemed to be the difference.a great punt return by ray small and 5 interceptions were the highlights.
next week ought to be pretty interesting.

[Deehntr56]

FLAT WASN'T THE WORD:yikes: THEY SUCKED@@@@:yikes:


You can tell...at least you hope that was the reason...that they were looking ahead.....but the line play was horrible...they were just going through the motions!!!:rolleyes:

Hines looked good again...but man...you don't want to be playing around a week before a big game.....they should of been "tuning up".:biggrin:

[coonskinner]

i agree take 2 big plays away osu loses...ou won 3 quarters of that game...but was that tressels plan...jus do enuff 2 win...:mischeif:

[Deehntr56]

Tressel will have them "up" for the game.....and they shouldn't need any motivation....they know they need to play!!!

You want to watch a great game...go and watch the FSU/Miami game right now....their playing their hearts out!!!

[bowtech_buster]

until now i wish miami would have pulled it off that usf and ucf game was a good one to. to bad they didnt get the first at the end..

[Fish-n-Fool]

Trust me - that was no plan by OSU; they didn't show up and OU did. OU deserved the win and our guys should be highly motivated to perform as I didn't see a winning performance out of anybody on the O. The defense also tackled very poorly - if they think Boo Jackson is shifty they will have a h*ll of a time Saturday in space with the athletes that will be on the field.

I have two major gripes in regards to our offensive coaching and I am typically not to quick to pass judgement on guys that have forgotten more about FB than i know, BUT.....

Why did Mo Wells continue to get reps running up the middle? There is little doubt Mo is good in space, but he has nothing inside - even when the blocks are there. Herron is the best man for this job and is 2a (with Beanie the obvious 1), Saine would be choice #2b.

O Line play - say what you will, but what you saw on the field Saturday will not change without a blocking scheme change from Bollman. He is having huge 320+ lb lineman attempting to zone block D lineman that weigh significantly less and are at least a step faster ( a la FL, LSU and USC coming this Sat). Rather than go right at the man in front of them and force the issue, we have our guys stepping back and trying to find their man to hit - this never works unless you have much quicker O line play than we have. The fact of the matter is there are very few 320lb guys that move well enough to do this - Pace & Jake Long would 2 huge guys that could get this done. OSU doesn't have a man on the line that can (maybe Adams will become this kind of player).

What you get is what you saw - we couldn't get to our blocks because OU was much quicker and was already engaging our lineman. This was one major problem with this scheme Sat. The second HUGE problem is that we couldn't (and won't) be able to seal off the back end. THIS is what stopped our ground game Sat. At least half of our running plays a guy made the play from the back end or was darn close.

In situations like that you forget about zone blocking - you line up and tee off on the weaker, smaller man, keep your legs moving and drive him 2-3 yards back off the line.

I am anxious to see what occurs Sat night - if we think we are going to zone block USC our ground game will be much the same except you won't see those 10-12 yard gains in the middle. It doesn't matter if we had Keith Byers running - he wouldn't net 50 yards.

Sure we don't want to show too much to USC, but we didn't execute the fundamentals. And we are VERY lucky Boo Jackson can't pass to save his life or we lost that game without doubt.

Pathetic effort and poor choice of scheme. I'm done with my rant until I see what our coaches do next week.

[Deehntr56]

FNF.....I have been asking the same question about Mo up the middle the last 2 years.:confused:

For the love of god....everybody and that includes me and my little pea brain....knows Mo does not shake off tackles well......geezzzzzz:biggrin:

Secondly...the coaches jobs are to get teams and players ready to play every week.

Our coaching did not do that. Period!

Screw the way we didn't execute, and everything else we can discuss on here.

It comes down to OSU not being prepared, mentally and a lot of the calls including Mo up the middle have to stop.

USC BY 8 (minimum) this coming Sunday is my prediction. I am not happy with our progress and the way we played.

I told my friend who's son is an assistant with OU...Great job on having their team prepared to play OSU...That is the way you coach, even though they were heavy, heavy underdogs.

Tressel and the team should be upset with that performance.

[bowtech_buster]

my buddy says wells will play against usc this week. who is my buddy you ask justin zwick

[TheCream]

If USC decided to trick OSU into being scared by blowing the door's off Virginia in week 1...well, it worked. :yikes:

[Fish-n-Fool]

Bowtech - Wells played against OU; just the wrong one:cheeky-smiley-022:

C. Wells will definately play, but I'll wait until I see him try to make some cuts before I think he will be effective.:shhh: I like to think he will be somewhere close to 100% as has been reported and he can help us - we need him to help keep our D off the field.

I think when Wells meets Cushing ther could be some body parts launched into the crowd from the comet like impact!!! Two very big bodies that can move right there!!

[Redhunter1012]

Trust me - that was no plan by OSU; they didn't show up and OU did. OU deserved the win and our guys should be highly motivated to perform as I didn't see a winning performance out of anybody on the O. The defense also tackled very poorly - if they think Boo Jackson is shifty they will have a h*ll of a time Saturday in space with the athletes that will be on the field.

I have two major gripes in regards to our offensive coaching and I am typically not to quick to pass judgement on guys that have forgotten more about FB than i know, BUT.....

Why did Mo Wells continue to get reps running up the middle? There is little doubt Mo is good in space, but he has nothing inside - even when the blocks are there. Herron is the best man for this job and is 2a (with Beanie the obvious 1), Saine would be choice #2b.

O Line play - say what you will, but what you saw on the field Saturday will not change without a blocking scheme change from Bollman. He is having huge 320+ lb lineman attempting to zone block D lineman that weigh significantly less and are at least a step faster ( a la FL, LSU and USC coming this Sat). Rather than go right at the man in front of them and force the issue, we have our guys stepping back and trying to find their man to hit - this never works unless you have much quicker O line play than we have. The fact of the matter is there are very few 320lb guys that move well enough to do this - Pace & Jake Long would 2 huge guys that could get this done. OSU doesn't have a man on the line that can (maybe Adams will become this kind of player).

What you get is what you saw - we couldn't get to our blocks because OU was much quicker and was already engaging our lineman. This was one major problem with this scheme Sat. The second HUGE problem is that we couldn't (and won't) be able to seal off the back end. THIS is what stopped our ground game Sat. At least half of our running plays a guy made the play from the back end or was darn close.

In situations like that you forget about zone blocking - you line up and tee off on the weaker, smaller man, keep your legs moving and drive him 2-3 yards back off the line.

I am anxious to see what occurs Sat night - if we think we are going to zone block USC our ground game will be much the same except you won't see those 10-12 yard gains in the middle. It doesn't matter if we had Keith Byers running - he wouldn't net 50 yards.

Sure we don't want to show too much to USC, but we didn't execute the fundamentals. And we are VERY lucky Boo Jackson can't pass to save his life or we lost that game without doubt.

Pathetic effort and poor choice of scheme. I'm done with my rant until I see what our coaches do next week.

Good post. After watching some of the replays from the Bucks game, I noticed that you guys are trying to Zone Block. I agree that you have the wrong type of bodies in there to do that. Another problem they had was getting to the second level of defenders to block, which is absolutely crucial in that scheme. The guys just were not scraping off in time to create that little extra room to gain positive yardage.

[bowtech_buster]

i actually like the buckeyes in this game not so much that i'm a die hard osu fan but from my playing days i know what it means to be an underdog. first thing your ready to show that you can play and that your there to fight. secondly the other team has thought that there is no way you can win so they are not as prepared as you are...i know usc will be prepared but they wont no way nearly be as prepared as the buckeyes. we all know the talent the buckeyes have and we will see it all come together this saturday night. look for the stars to be malcom jenkins, anderson russel and marcus freeman. the offense star will be ray small. go bucks

[deerhunt45]

i actually like the buckeyes in this game not so much that i'm a die hard osu fan but from my playing days i know what it means to be an underdog. first thing your ready to show that you can play and that your there to fight. secondly the other team has thought that there is no way you can win so they are not as prepared as you are...i know usc will be prepared but they wont no way nearly be as prepared as the buckeyes. we all know the talent the buckeyes have and we will see it all come together this saturday night. look for the stars to be malcom jenkins, anderson russel and marcus freeman. the offense star will be ray small. go bucks

I like the way you think. Let's don't forget the added pressure of playing USC at their place. You know the fans are prepared to make it tough on the Buckeyes.

Go Bucks!

[coonskinner]

I like the way you think. Let's don't forget the added pressure of playing USC at their place. You know the fans are prepared to make it tough on the Buckeyes.

Go Bucks!

even better reason for tressel to be trickin them...it makes sense...look how good we did in rose bowl...:mischeif:

[Deehntr56]

my buddy says wells will play against usc this week. who is my buddy you ask justin zwick

Oh man...you sure you want to use that name here.:yikes: :biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

we all know the talent the buckeyes have and we will see it all come together this saturday night.

USC can match and actually boast's more talent than OSU. Probably FLA and USC are the only teams in America that can say that.

[bowtech_buster]

Oh man...you sure you want to use that name here.:yikes: :biggrin:
i sure do even i told him brady quinn was better than him...he loves it when i talk that to him...lol

[Deehntr56]

Ok...then ask Him how he felt after Nate Szep and the Ignatius boys whupped on him for the State Title in High School.:biggrin: :biggrin:

I was there at that game as well.......:biggrin: :biggrin:

[jeffmo]

i still think it's going to be a very good game.ohio u played very well and no one can take that away from them but i think the bucks were simply guilty of looking past them to usc in the 1st half.i really enjoyed how well the defense played,4 int's!
in the columbus paper one of the writers was talking about how tressel SHOULD have stayed with herron instead of wells but i just think tressel was wanting to get all 3 of those backs some reps for possible use against usc.
one thing's for sure.tressel wasn't going to tip his hand so carrol could plan his game.
a couple of big defensive plays and field position could be the difference for the winner.low scoring maybe??? who's kicker is on?????
my guess is that wells comes out firing on all cylinders(hopefully!!)
i wouldn't want to bet the farm on this one but i'm not going to miss a play!
i'm doing my yard work on thursday & friday so saturday is all mine.
win or lose it's gonna be fun just like the texas series!!!:bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

[Deehntr56]

Same here Jeff....going to the gun range for the day though...no yard work!!!!:cheeky-smiley-022: :biggrin:

Be home in time for some football!!!:biggrin:

[stumphole 2]

secondly the other team has thought that there is no way you can win so they are not as prepared as you are...i know usc will be prepared but they wont no way nearly be as prepared as the buckeyes.

I really don't know how to reply to that, USC doesn't take this game or any games lightly. Let alone virtually not showing up against OU. USC is the real deal the Bucks better come to play. Do you really think that USC isn't giving them a chance? They are the most fundementaly sound team in the country. Prepared they will be, I do believe that OSU will be prepared as well. Beanie wells is/was hurt they weren't lying about that, his health now is what i would be worried about, Planting, cutting and so forthe. A torn ligament in your captain toe is nothing to take lightly. This game will either be a blow out or it will be decided by a special teams play or break down.

[Hiller]

OSU won't be able to rely on their second half blowouts like they do in alot of games... they had better come out firing with all guns.... I look to see a play similar to the one with Troy Smith and Ted Ginn at the Michigan game 2 years ago... I think that may have been like the first play of the game.... launched it to Ginn and he was gone....I think if they don't put points on the board immedietly they will spin there tires the entire game and USC will own them.... we will see....

I'll be watching saturday night... if OSU loses then the Big Ten will continue to get slapped around by the media... it seems the Big ten is always the underdog...

[stumphole 2]

OSU won't be able to rely on their second half blowouts like they do in alot of games... they had better come out firing with all guns.... I look to see a play similar to the one with Troy Smith and Ted Ginn at the Michigan game 2 years ago... I think that may have been like the first play of the game.... launched it to Ginn and he was gone....I think if they don't put points on the board immedietly they will spin there tires the entire game and USC will own them.... we will see....

I'll be watching saturday night... if OSU loses then the Big Ten will continue to get slapped around by the media... it seems the Big ten is always the underdog...

amen hiller

Stump Jr.

[jeffmo]

i don't think osu will be able to win if they have a 1st half like they did against ou,UNLESS usc has the same type of 1st half.
but,osu is definately as good as they come at making the right half time adjustments.
it's gonna be a good one!

[TheCream]

USC can match and actually boast's more talent than OSU. Probably FLA and USC are the only teams in America that can say that.

They can match the talent or have more, but it is inexperienced talent. That may be the one area OSU has a slight advantage. Wells, Boeckman, Robiskie, Hartline, Jenkins, Freeman, Laurinaitis...they all bring big game experience, where USC will be playing a lot of newer guys.

[Redhunter1012]

They can match the talent or have more, but it is inexperienced talent. That may be the one area OSU has a slight advantage. Wells, Boeckman, Robiskie, Hartline, Jenkins, Freeman, Laurinaitis...they all bring big game experience, where USC will be playing a lot of newer guys.

Every single guy you just listed has a better player at his position on USC, and maybe 2 or 3.
McKnight, Sanchez and Mustain at QB, Rojo and ausberry, Maualuga, Cushing at LB, Taylor Mays at S is better than most pro Safeties right now.

[Deehntr56]

They can match the talent or have more, but it is inexperienced talent. That may be the one area OSU has a slight advantage. Wells, Boeckman, Robiskie, Hartline, Jenkins, Freeman, Laurinaitis...they all bring big game experience, where USC will be playing a lot of newer guys.



Bingo Cream...this is where the game may come down to.:biggrin:

Been waiting for this response!!!

Loads of talent, young and inexperienced, and a Big Game like this will dictate how they can handle it, or don't handle it.

Buckeyes have the edge in that area.

Defenses are pretty darn close...Offense ...edge to Bucks....Special team.....Toss.....maybe a slight edge on the long field goal and coverage to the BUCKS...but the game me be decided here as well.

Home field to USC....Only lost 1 game in the last 37 I beleive there, and that is a huge advantage.

If they hold their own...USC may win...but with the experience of the Buckeyes in key positions and if that plays out, and they play their game......their a winner.

My gut tells me you "should" see a contending Buckeye team on Saturday...unless you see the team OU played last week,(which happens once or twice a year with most teams) but in all reality.....they were looking ahead.

My Gut also tells me, last week, may of shown some offensive weakness and inconsistency.......a few more games will tell.

[jeffmo]

Every single guy you just listed has a better player at his position on USC, and maybe 2 or 3.
McKnight, Sanchez and Mustain at QB, Rojo and ausberry, Maualuga, Cushing at LB, Taylor Mays at S is better than most pro Safeties right now.

2 or 3 better than wells,jenkins or laurenitus???????
i'm throwing the flag on that one!!!

[bowtech_buster]

Every single guy you just listed has a better player at his position on USC, and maybe 2 or 3.
McKnight, Sanchez and Mustain at QB, Rojo and ausberry, Maualuga, Cushing at LB, Taylor Mays at S is better than most pro Safeties right now.
dude you must be a michigan fan???am i right??? there are NO better cover cb's in the country than jenkins NO better LB than lauranitas and NO better every down feature back than chris wells sorry those are facts buddy AND TAYLOR MAYS GIVE ME A BREAK

[Deehntr56]

:biggrin: 2 or 3 better than wells,jenkins or laurenitus???????
i'm throwing the flag on that one!!!

LMAO......:yikes: :biggrin:

Bowtech......right on...that is why their projected to go in the draft that high!!!

[jeffmo]

Every single guy you just listed has a better player at his position on USC, and maybe 2 or 3.
McKnight, Sanchez and Mustain at QB, Rojo and ausberry, Maualuga, Cushing at LB, Taylor Mays at S is better than most pro Safeties right now.

WOW!!!
i didn't think they grew dope THAT good up there in that part of the state!
:D :D :D :D
i bet a bag of chips and a box of cookies would go good right about now huh?????????

[stumphole 2]

Redhunter1012

Don't know by now you can't post anything negative about the Buckeyes on this site. The bucks do no wrong and are the best team in the Universe.

The man is intitled to his opinion. I do disagree about the Lauranitis, he is 1 of the best if not the best in the ncaa.

Bowtech buster

Why does he have to be a Michigan fan to disagree with you? I hope that OSU gets the crap kicked out of them this weekend. Do I think it will happen, no I think it will be a well fought game and a great win for OSU if they can pull it out.

[TheCream]

Oh he is entitled to his opinion, but listing Joe McKnight as a QB is not an opinion, that's just stupid. :D And Mitch Mustain? He couldn't even start at a poor Arkansas team over Casey Dick!

USC may well win this game and win it big, and all the Buckeye haters will rejoice as their teams continue to stink it up. Meanwhile, OSU will wind up right back in a BCS game barring catastrophic injuries, and then the haters can boo-hoo again. It's the same routine every year, and most Buckeye fans like me are used to it. People either love or hate good teams and programs. :coolgleamA:

[stumphole 2]

I expected nothing less from you Cream. I could give an absolute **** less what anyone thinks. You guys bash and bash on Michigan every chance you get. That is fine Bash away. What ever makes you sleep better at night. But ultimatly you opinion has 0 effect on me or my life or the team in which I choose to root for. Michigan is not a good football team right now, nor will they be where they were for couple of years. They will be competitive again. New coach New scheme. It will take time.

For what it is worth, OSU is good I am not a fan BUT I know when I see a great football team. If anyone can beat a number 1 such as USC they are the team. I never said that they wouldn't make a game of it. Who knows any given Saturday.

[TheCream]

I expected nothing less from you Cream. I could give an absolute **** less what anyone thinks. You guys bash and bash on Michigan every chance you get. That is fine Bash away. What ever makes you sleep better at night. But ultimatly you opinion has 0 effect on me or my life or the team in which I choose to root for. Michigan is not a good football team right now, nor will they be where they were for couple of years. They will be competitive again. New coach New scheme. It will take time.

For what it is worth, OSU is good I am not a fan BUT I know when I see a great football team. If anyone can beat a number 1 such as USC they are the team. I never said that they wouldn't make a game of it. Who knows any given Saturday.

It's called a rivalry, buddy. I'm an OSU fan, I don't like Michigan. That does NOT mean I do not respect Michigan, because I do. I even pull for them in bowl games because I want the Big Ten to do well. I hope they HUMILIATE Notre Dame this weekend, I really do. But I was also an OSU fan during the Cooper era, when we could not beat Michigan, period. I went through all the crap UM fans dealt to fellow fans during that era. Now the tables have turned, haven't they? I respect Michigan, but I flat out do not like Michigan.

And for the record, I will jump on anyone who posts something I consider to be stupid or just flat out wrong. That should be obvious by now. :bouncy:

[stumphole 2]

that is fair.

[Deehntr56]

Oh he is entitled to his opinion, but listing Joe McKnight as a QB is not an opinion, that's just stupid. :D And Mitch Mustain? He couldn't even start at a poor Arkansas team over Casey Dick!

USC may well win this game and win it big, and all the Buckeye haters will rejoice as their teams continue to stink it up. Meanwhile, OSU will wind up right back in a BCS game barring catastrophic injuries, and then the haters can boo-hoo again. It's the same routine every year, and most Buckeye fans like me are used to it. People either love or hate good teams and programs. :coolgleamA:

Yep....took the words right out of my mouth!!!!:biggrin:

[stumphole 2]

Yep....took the words right out of my mouth!!!!:biggrin:


Figured you would chime in too. You can refer to my statement above my last on.

[Deehntr56]

Figured you would chime in too. You can refer to my statement above my last on.


Didn't have to...nothing there to respond to.:D

[stumphole 2]

:rolleyes:

[Deehntr56]

:whistle:

[jeffmo]

well i'll give my opinion about michigan.
i don't like them,i don't respect them,i hope they go o for the rest of the season,they should apply for acceptance into the MAC,they have the God ugliest uniforms on the planet,their cheerleaders have to look down their blouses just to count to 2,their coach is a bum,it should be against the law to fly a michigan flag in the state of Ohio,the only good thing about that state is the mushroom hunting,and i hope ohio state beats them by 50 damn points this year!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Deehntr56]

:dizzy: :yikes: :dizzy: :biggrin:

That's a mouthfull!!!:biggrin:

You forgot one thing.........whining!:biggrin:

[coonskinner]

well i'll give my opinion about michigan.
i don't like them,i don't respect them,i hope they go o for the rest of the season,they should apply for acceptance into the MAC,they have the God ugliest uniforms on the planet,their cheerleaders have to look down their blouses just to count to 2,their coach is a bum,it should be against the law to fly a michigan flag in the state of Ohio,the only good thing about that state is the mushroom hunting,and i hope ohio state beats them by 50 damn points this year!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :Dbut but the whole country hates osu...:D

[jeffmo]

but but the whole country hates osu...:D

they wouldn't be hated if they were bad!!!:bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

[Fish-n-Fool]

Why don't you tell him how you really feel Jeffmo:yikes: !!!

[Deehntr56]

OH MY GOD...Now you really did it FNF:D :D :D

[Redhunter1012]

Oh he is entitled to his opinion, but listing Joe McKnight as a QB is not an opinion, that's just stupid. :D And Mitch Mustain? He couldn't even start at a poor Arkansas team over Casey Dick!

USC may well win this game and win it big, and all the Buckeye haters will rejoice as their teams continue to stink it up. Meanwhile, OSU will wind up right back in a BCS game barring catastrophic injuries, and then the haters can boo-hoo again. It's the same routine every year, and most Buckeye fans like me are used to it. People either love or hate good teams and programs. :coolgleamA:

Whre the hell did I list McKnight as a QB. If you'd open You eyes, I said Mcknight, Mustain and Sanchez at QB. Did you notice the comma. I'll admit right now Wells is probably better everydown back. As far as little animal, Ask any pro scout who they would take, Laurinitis or Maualuga? Guaranteed 75% take Ray. Cushing is lightyears better than Freeman. Freeman is great one day and terrible the next. And I'd like to know what you have against Mays. That dude would be a top 5 pick if he was allowed to enter the draft this year. Boeckman couldn't carry Sanchez or Mustains Jock Strap. As far as hating, yea I hate OSU and all you born again Buckeye fans and your authentic WalMart OSU clothes.

[jeffmo]

well,it was meant as a dual purpose statement.
humorous AND honest!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
guys,we shouldn't feel left out.appalachain state and utah fans aren't too well thought of either!!!

red,the last apparel i bought was from the fan shop at the schott.

[Redhunter1012]

well,it was meant as a dual purpose statement.
humorous AND honest!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
guys,we shouldn't feel left out.appalachain state and utah fans aren't too well thought of either!!!

red,the last apparel i bought was from the fan shop at the schott.

I got no problems with those fanbases. Appy St. is way better than OU and YSU, as is Utah. Granted Appy was D2 but still a good team. I just don't think well of all you new Browneye fans that didn't know OSU football existed before 2001.

[jeffmo]

who's the new fan???
over 40 years through the good years AND the cooper years for me!
shoot,my son is named Woody!!!!!

[Deehntr56]

well,it was meant as a dual purpose statement.
humorous AND honest!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
guys,we shouldn't feel left out.appalachain state and utah fans aren't too well thought of either!!!

ANY team that Beats UM is not well thought of...and there are many:biggrin: ....including OSU the last 6 out of 7 times!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

ANY team that Beats UM is not well thought of...and there are many:biggrin: ....including OSU the last 6 out of 7 times!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

Usually our fanbase is pretty good towards others. IIRC, OSU fans are the ones always getting arrested for burning couches and Rioting in that SH**HOLE of a campus and town.

[jeffmo]

Usually our fanbase is pretty good towards others. IIRC, OSU fans are the ones always getting arrested for burning couches and Rioting in that SH**HOLE of a campus and town.

SUCH HOSTILITY!
you know,there are decaffeinated brands that are just as tasty as the real thing.:bouncy:
the burning of couches is something that happens only after a big win.i guess that's why it never happens in ann arbor!!:whistle:

[Redhunter1012]

Not hostility. Just pointing out the truth. How many arrests and riots were there after the FLA loss? Last time I looked, basically that whole campus and most of that town is abolutely disgusting

[stumphole 2]

ANY team that Beats UM is not well thought of...and there are many:biggrin: ....including OSU the last 6 out of 7 times!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:


Well if you wanna live in the past take a look at the overall record. Your going to need a couple more wins to catch up. With that said what team is the winningest team in NCAA history? I am not saying we are good by anymeans but we weren't the ones who are playing internet badazz here. Can't we just have a reasonable discussion about football without all the crap? If not that is ok with me but it just gets old.

[Deehntr56]

Fact is...6 out the last 7 and going for 7 of the last 8 in 2008!:biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

Fact is...6 out the last 7 and going for 7 of the last 8 in 2008!:biggrin:

You got that one memorized. Refresh me, what is your record against the SEC? And since we are on the subject of winning and the past and all that good stuff, how many NC's do you guys have and UM have in the past 10 years? Or are we just counting the past 8 years that you guys have been following the Sucknuts?

[bowtech_buster]

people get cought up in the past who cares about the past neither team can change a thing i am as big as buckeye fan as they come but i dont care about the whole 6 out of seven what i care about is how we will do with current players not the players done ten years ago no one can controll that.so lets talk about this year who will win and why

[BuckSlayer]

Ohio state will win, michigan is in its rebuilding years remember ;)

[coonskinner]

Not hostility. Just pointing out the truth. How many arrests and riots were there after the FLA loss? Last time I looked, basically that whole campus and most of that town is abolutely disgusting

hey i've lived here for over 20 yrs...its really not a bad place to live despite it being a osu town...i'm a country boy from se ohio and can say for a city,columbus is a nice place to live and work,theres other thangs here besides osu:D ...:Dan living on the east side its just an hour drive to the best hunting in the dam lan...

[Fish-n-Fool]

OSU Vs. UM 2008:

This game could go a lot of ways and I don't think we know yet what it may look like. I say that because neither team has found themselves yet.

OSU was expected to know who they are as a team, what they are capable of, etc., but that obviously is not the case. The older guys on the team are not playing well, are missing assignments, Beanie is out, and we now have a QB issue (even if the staff doesn't want to admit it).

UM is completely re-tooling the offense and was counting on stout defense running basically the same D with good experience. So far the offense has probably performed about how everybody expected - they have shown some flashes and made a lot of mistakes at the same time. The defense is a surprise as they flat out are playing poorly. The offense has put them in some jams, but they knew that would happen.

I think we will have a good idea of how this game will shape up by week 8-9 or so. UM should start to figure out what they are doing and eliminate the stupid mistakes and the defense should settle in. OSU will have had time to look in the mirror and one of two things will happen 1) the older guys will start playing like they are capable 2) the staff will have to sit them and let our young talent play more snaps.

In the end with the rebuild in A2 and the game being in the Shoe it spells an OSU win. Beanie or no Beanie I don't think UM will be able to stop OSU from scoring enough to win easily. I believe UM will make a couple big plays, but will be kept out of the endzone most of the game. I predict a 2 touchdown or greater victory and perhaps a complete blowout.

2009 should start a "new" series and it should be competitive from 2009 forward.

[Redhunter1012]

OSU Vs. UM 2008:

This game could go a lot of ways and I don't think we know yet what it may look like. I say that because neither team has found themselves yet.

OSU was expected to know who they are as a team, what they are capable of, etc., but that obviously is not the case. The older guys on the team are not playing well, are missing assignments, Beanie is out, and we now have a QB issue (even if the staff doesn't want to admit it).

UM is completely re-tooling the offense and was counting on stout defense running basically the same D with good experience. So far the offense has probably performed about how everybody expected - they have shown some flashes and made a lot of mistakes at the same time. The defense is a surprise as they flat out are playing poorly. The offense has put them in some jams, but they knew that would happen.

I think we will have a good idea of how this game will shape up by week 8-9 or so. UM should start to figure out what they are doing and eliminate the stupid mistakes and the defense should settle in. OSU will have had time to look in the mirror and one of two things will happen 1) the older guys will start playing like they are capable 2) the staff will have to sit them and let our young talent play more snaps.

In the end with the rebuild in A2 and the game being in the Shoe it spells an OSU win. Beanie or no Beanie I don't think UM will be able to stop OSU from scoring enough to win easily. I believe UM will make a couple big plays, but will be kept out of the endzone most of the game. I predict a 2 touchdown or greater victory and perhaps a complete blowout.

2009 should start a "new" series and it should be competitive from 2009 forward.

Absolutely agree

[jeffmo]

You got that one memorized. Refresh me, what is your record against the SEC? And since we are on the subject of winning and the past and all that good stuff, how many NC's do you guys have and UM have in the past 10 years? Or are we just counting the past 8 years that you guys have been following the Sucknuts?


in the past 10 years i think that it's 1 to 0 in osu's favor.................

what conference is app.state in?????????????????????

[Redhunter1012]

in the past 10 years i think that it's 1 to 0 in osu's favor.................

what conference is app.state in?????????????????????

I do believe it was January of "98" when we won wasn't it?
Appy St. is in same division as Youngstown St. You know, that division where Tressell used to dominate where you can compensate players with cars and money. Remember Jeffmo, the conference that put Youngstown on Probation for Tressell's cheating.

[coonskinner]

you know what gets me is why wasnt this quarterback thing settled at the start of the season...if the freshman is better he should have been#1 for the 1st game...

also big ten style football needs tro catch up with the other conf"s...playing good enuff to beat mich. is not going to be good enuff...they need to see what these other conf. are doing to beat them...back to the quarterback controversy...seems like this happens too much at osu...and goes too far deep into the season...
what next if we lose to troy...a team that shouldnt beat osu under no circumstances...is it possible there is discontent on this team...maybe players unhappy bout coaching decisions...:eek:also i have heard there may be trouble in the strength dept...other teams/players seem stronger...i look back at ou...they seemed to hold there own even though tressel predicted they were to small to hang with osu's hogs...as i look back...i think osu was lucky to beat ou...

[Deehntr56]

in the past 10 years i think that it's 1 to 0 in osu's favor.................

what conference is app.state in?????????????????????

LMAO@Jeff!

Appalachian State??? The only Division 1 school ever to lose to who?

And to think UM paid out Rich Rod so they didn't have to stay in the negative limelight about RR's Horrible Bailing out of WV and/or Lloyd allowing his receivers to smoke the wacky tobacky and still allowing them to play....!:biggrin: :biggrin:

And I love the comments about how our "home state" and how chitty our Great State of Ohio is and how it's a hole in the ground, but those who yap at the jaw about that on here continue to live here and go visit that State Capital regularly to watch our Chitty team......Hmmmmmmmm !!!

"True" Ohioans would never do that!

[coonskinner]

ohio state is playing its share of cupcakes...they need to toughen up the schedule...and these cup cakes seem to be giving them fits...to think they should be even worried bout troy state...:rolleyes:

[Redhunter1012]

ohio state is playing its share of cupcakes...they need to toughen up the schedule...and these cup cakes seem to be giving them fits...to think they should be even worried bout troy state...:rolleyes:

I said from the beginning OSU would lose to USC and another Big 10 game along the way, but still win the conference. I'm starting to wonder if they won't drop more now that Tressell is screwing with team chemistry

[jeffmo]

I do believe it was January of "98" when we won wasn't it?
Appy St. is in same division as Youngstown St. You know, that division where Tressell used to dominate where you can compensate players with cars and money. Remember Jeffmo, the conference that put Youngstown on Probation for Tressell's cheating.



1990
Colorado
11-1-1
Won Orange
Bill McCartney


Georgia Tech (UPI)
11-0-1
Won Citrus
Bobby Ross

1991
Miami (FL)
12-0-0
Won Orange
Dennis Erickson


Washington (CNN)
12-0-0
Won Rose
Don James

1992
Alabama
13-0-0
Won Sugar
Gene Stallings

1993
Florida State
12-1-0
Won Orange
Bobby Bowden

1994
Nebraska
13-0-0
Won Orange
Tom Osborne

1995
Nebraska
12-0-0
Won Fiesta
Tom Osborne

†1996
Florida
12–1
Won Sugar
Steve Spurrier

1997
Michigan
12–0
Won Rose
Lloyd Carr


Nebraska (ESPN)
13–0
Won Orange
Tom Osborne

1998
Tennessee
13–0
Won Fiesta
Phillip Fulmer

1999
Florida State
12-0
Won Sugar
Bobby Bowden

2000
Oklahoma
13-0
Won Orange
Bob Stoops

2001
Miami (FL)
12-0
Won Rose
Larry Coker

2002
Ohio State
14-0
Won Fiesta
Jim Tressel

2003
LSU (BCS)
13-1
Won Sugar
Nick Saban


USC (AP)
12-1
Won Rose
Pete Carroll

2004
USC
13-0
Won Orange
Pete Carroll

2005
Texas
13-0
Won Rose
Mack Brown

2006**
Florida defeated Ohio State
41-14
Won BCS National Championship Game
Urban Meyer

now,me and ol gomer don't fly the shuttle but we can read and the list does show the YEAR and who won.but then again what do those morons at the ncaa site know huh???

[coonskinner]

I said from the beginning OSU would lose to USC and another Big 10 game along the way, but still win the conference. I'm starting to wonder if they won't drop more now that Tressell is screwing with team chemistry

i have to wonder whats going on with the team internally when you have a qb controversy like this one...rememember the one with troy smith and zwick...that one even got into a racial thing here in the city...and then with all the other problems going on...theres prolly a lot of finger pointing going on right now...:D

[Redhunter1012]

:coco: I was till remembering January 98 when we won. Thanks for pointing out that oh so important detail.

[coonskinner]

well i hope it doan happen but i can see this team falling completely apart...i hope the coaches make the right decisions right now...also this cupcake game could really be a disaster if its just close win...:D

[Deehntr56]

I can see how someone can lose track of which year it was....it's been quite a LONG time!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: