rr has pay up on wva's iou!!!

[jeffmo]

IOU for WVU: Rodriguez agrees to pay $4MUpdated: July 9, 2008, 8:02 AM EST 34 comments add this RSS blog email print MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) - Former West Virginia football coach Rich Rodriguez agreed to pay a $4 million buyout clause and settle a lawsuit that the university filed after he broke his contract in December.
The tentative agreement, which university attorney Tom Flaherty expects will be approved by the WVU Board of Governors later Wednesday, would end a case that had been set for trial this fall. It also may end a bitter public feud.

"It's a case that should have settled a long time ago and could have settled a long time ago. It's in the best interest of everyone to resolve it," Flaherty said.

A call to Ohio attorney Marv Robon, representing Rodriguez, was not immediately returned.

Rodriguez quit the Mountaineers in December for the head coaching job at Michigan, only a year after extending his contract with WVU. He had argued that WVU broke the contract first by failing to honor certain promises - a charge WVU denied.

Flaherty said he would reveal additional details about the settlement, including the period for repayment, after the deal is approved by the board. However, he said the payment would not be made in a lump sum.

The settlement was reached on what had been a key deadline in the case. As part of the discovery process, a judge had given Rodriguez until the end of Tuesday to reveal whether the University of Michigan or anyone else had agreed to pay WVU on his behalf.

Flaherty said a document was produced, but he could not immediately divulge its contents.

Adding pressure to Rodriguez was a lawsuit WVU filed in a Michigan court last week, asking a judge to order Michigan athletic director Bill Martin and President Mary Sue Coleman to testify in depositions. A hearing on that request had been set for Wednesday afternoon.

WVU also recently got an Ohio court to issue a subpoena for testimony and records from Mike Wilcox, Rodriguez's financial adviser.

The Rodriguez camp approached the university with a "significant and serious offer" within the past few days, and WVU responded with a counterproposal Tuesday, Flaherty said. That set off a series of meetings with a court-appointed mediator, Frank Fragale.

"Mike Garrison and the people at Stewart Hall worked tirelessly - under the very, very difficult circumstances that he's in - to get this done," Flaherty said. "They also, in my opinion, did everything they could to keep Mr. Rodriguez here."

Garrison is stepping down as WVU's president Sept. 1 over an unrelated scandal involving a master's degree the university wrongly awarded to the governor's daughter last fall.

The $4 million liquidated damages clause was suggested by an attorney on the WVU Board of Governors in December 2006, after Rodriguez turned down an offer from Alabama.

It was double the amount of the previous contract, but a number attorney Steve Farmer said he believed would protect WVU from lost marketing, merchandising and other opportunities if Rodriguez left early.

Though Rodriguez initially balked, he ultimately signed a contract with that figure in August 2007. He then resigned Dec. 16, taking recruits and assistant coaches with him, and leaving the Mountaineers just before the Fiesta Bowl game against Oklahoma. Bill Stewart replaced Rodriguez after a 48-28 victory over the Sooners.

Stewart has a five-year contract worth $800,000 a year, plus incentives. The base salary totals $4 million, the same amount WVU aimed to recover with its lawsuit.

Rodriguez testified recently in a deposition that he signed his contract under pressure from board members and Gov. Joe Manchin. He argues that WVU failed to honor some of his demands and Garrison assured him the buyout clause would be reduced or eliminated if he were to resign - a promise Garrison denies making.

Rodriguez also testified that while he considered the amount "excessive" and "unfair," he acquiesced when he was told a major WVU donor had insisted on it.

He has agreed to a similar $4 million damages clause at Michigan.

[TheCream]

I am sure this money will not all come from his bank account.

[Deehntr56]

"Flaherty said a document was produced, but he could not immediately divulge its contents"


:yikes: Sometimes, you just need to play by the rules!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

Truth be told, UM had him fight this out. They will pay 2.5 mil and legal fees for RR.

[Deehntr56]

So UM condoned him putting the screws to WVU.....

[stumphole 2]

^^^^ YOu don't know what went on any more than I do. You all just take everything negative, or what you want to see as a negative, and blow it all out of context. I am sure your an osu fan so any dig you can get at Michigan is to be expected, but when it come to situations like this only the higher ups really know what is going on. Not me, not you, and nobody on this site.

[jeffmo]

^^^^ YOu don't know what went on any more than I do. You all just take everything negative, or what you want to see as a negative, and blow it all out of context. I am sure your an osu fan so any dig you can get at Michigan is to be expected, but when it come to situations like this only the higher ups really know what is going on. Not me, not you, and nobody on this site.

you're 100% right!
but now we ALL know what the outcome is.

[5Cent]

you're 100% right!
but now we ALL know what the outcome is.

Yep, sure do...

Start is going to go decent for UM and everyone will say "See told ya so".

Then they'll get to the BIG 10 and get their arse handed to em!!

GO BUCKS

[Deehntr56]

Yep, sure do...

Start is going to go decent for UM and everyone will say "See told ya so".

Then they'll get to the BIG 10 and get their arse handed to em!!

GO BUCKS


:yikes: If that is the case it will be a better start then the game against....what was the name of that 1AA School they played last year???:biggrin: :biggrin:

and the otcome gives you a sense of what DID transpire in those discussions we don't know.........it all comes out in the end......what is the saying....oh......what a tangled web we weave when we try to deceive.......

[jeffmo]

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[jeffmo]

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[Redhunter1012]

Wow, more Appy St. fun. LOL. Just courious as to how he put the screws to WVU? So I can say Tressell put the screws to YSU, right? Seeing as how he got busted there for cheating for paying recruits and players. Sounds familiar, like what he's being doing in C-Bus, doesn't it? Oh, but like all you Buckeyes say, "I'm sure it happens everywhere". No, just at O$U and U$C. Yea, RR screwed WV just because he decided to go to 1 of the top 3 Coaching jobs in all of College Football for a hell of alot more money. Not to mention the University president won't reneg on his promises for more resources.

[Deehntr56]

Wow, more Appy St. fun. LOL. Just courious as to how he put the screws to WVU? So I can say Tressell put the screws to YSU, right? Seeing as how he got busted there for cheating for paying recruits and players. Sounds familiar, like what he's being doing in C-Bus, doesn't it? Oh, but like all you Buckeyes say, "I'm sure it happens everywhere". No, just at O$U and U$C. Yea, RR screwed WV just because he decided to go to 1 of the top 3 Coaching jobs in all of College Football for a hell of alot more money. Not to mention the University president won't reneg on his promises for more resources.


:yikes: :yikes: LMAO@JEFF!!!!


Money isn't always the answer...you have to live with yourself and your legacy, and what you were about........some can in their little minds and some just choose to do it correctly.

Tressel didn't bail on his team........in mid season, or right before the playoffs....he earned OSU's job with several National Titles.....and never ended up paying 4 mill back........:biggrin:

There was a way to do it properly...he just didn't. Accept the fact the UM is not clean...it likes some dirt in between it's finger nails here and there.....look at Manningham...who should be been kicked off the team for being High all the time...that didn't happen.

And why are all the recruits coming to play for Tressel.....Oh......he's not honest...he'll get me to the NFL....Somehow....he'll screw the system and get me there...I don't think so...ask Clarett!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

It's enjoyable to watch Tressel handle the diversity of running a team.....handles them well. Would love to spend a season with him.:biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

IMO, Tressells a very good coach, but a scumbag nonetheless. As far as MM, he shoulda been outta there before last season started, as well as Arrington. Those guys were about as bad as Clifford, although probably not getting legally caught was the only difference. If you think Tressell is so clean, ask him about Ted Sarniak. And I believe you have channels if not direct contact with him. Pryor's Corvette came directly from old Ted's dealership in PA. Ted is now TP's legal Guardian as of late last year:whistle: He also just happens to own a few other businesses that deal directly with a few OSU's major donors businesses. Funny how everything works out.

[jeffmo]

Yea, RR screwed WV just because he decided to go to 1 of the top 3 Coaching jobs in all of College Football for a hell of alot more money.

let us not forget,he wasn't michigans 1st choice for the job.
oooh! what a way to stroke his ego huh? "hey rich,we really wanted les but since he isn't budging,and we REALLY need a coach,how 'bout it big guy"?:D :D
he's gonna be as popular as a dose of the crabs up there in idiot arbor!

[Deehntr56]

and RR's 2.5 million buyout by UM of his failed bail out at WVU and legal debt isn't any different....:rolleyes:

Since were flinging...I'll warm up some....:biggrin:

RR's negative issues already far outweigh anything Tressel has done, and he hasn't coached a full season yet..... and Tressel has donated Millions to education and programs already at Youngstown State, Baldwin Wallace as well as OSU...I am sure RR's cash will never see a donation of any sort to educational programs, unless he's getting some sort of pay out!:biggrin:

I'll bet Hart's and Henne's toys were...a tad.....traceable.....to.... to UM's Alumni....and Manningham's and Arrington's habits were never fueled by anyone associated with the school:whistle: .....I am sure the wacky tobacky was readily available as needed, and only from the streets:whistle: .:biggrin: :biggrin:

[jeffmo]

[QUOTE=Redhunter1012;256145]Sounds familiar, like what he's being doing in C-Bus, doesn't it?QUOTE]

show me some proof of that statement.

[Deehntr56]

show me proof of all the statements:yikes: :yikes:

[Redhunter1012]

Actually a buddy of mine and 2 of his friends seen Pryor and the others out drinking. All the Tressell cheating stuff is out there with a simple search. I'm pretty much limited in my computer knowledge, otherwise I'd put up all the Garbage about Saint Tressell. As far as donations, RichRod has already donated large amounts and spent a ton of time with the UofM childrens Hospital. Look, all these coaches nowadays donate to very needy charities, and I think it's great, so no need to rip on either for that stuff. You don't thing Tressell was OSU's first choice do you? LOL. He was like their 5th. You can try to paint a bad picture of RR because all the WV fans are still whining about it.

[jeffmo]

Actually a buddy of mine and 2 of his friends seen Pryor and the others out drinking. All the Tressell cheating stuff is out there with a simple search. I'm pretty much limited in my computer knowledge, otherwise I'd put up all the Garbage about Saint Tressell. As far as donations, RichRod has already donated large amounts and spent a ton of time with the UofM childrens Hospital. Look, all these coaches nowadays donate to very needy charities, and I think it's great, so no need to rip on either for that stuff. You don't thing Tressell was OSU's first choice do you? LOL. He was like their 5th. You can try to paint a bad picture of RR because all the WV fans are still whining about it.

nothing like having concrete evidence to prove a point!


"Actually a buddy of mine and 2 of his friends seen Pryor and the others out drinking."

hey i'm sold!!!:coco:

[Deehntr56]

Actually a buddy of mine and 2 of his friends seen Pryor and the others out drinking. All the Tressell cheating stuff is out there with a simple search. I'm pretty much limited in my computer knowledge, otherwise I'd put up all the Garbage about Saint Tressell. As far as donations, RichRod has already donated large amounts and spent a ton of time with the UofM childrens Hospital. Look, all these coaches nowadays donate to very needy charities, and I think it's great, so no need to rip on either for that stuff. You don't thing Tressell was OSU's first choice do you? LOL. He was like their 5th. You can try to paint a bad picture of RR because all the WV fans are still whining about it.

Yeah...simple search...so I did a simple search....I typed in "Jim Tressel Scandals"...and got this!!!!:yikes: :yikes:


CLICK ON HERE------> http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080628/SPORTS06/306280012

OH-MY...I hit the mother load with that one.........man oh man......that one really shows what the Tressel Express is all about....man that is bad...his reputation now will be horrible..........6 out of 7 recruits!!! That's exactly the amount of wins Sweater vest has so far against UM!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

A quote from that article in the DETROIT FREE PRESS!!!!:biggrin:


"The Daily News reports Ohio State's recruiting victories of late have been all the more sweet because they've come at the expense of rival Michigan. Ohio State coach Jim Tressel has gone head-to-head with new Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez for seven recruits and has landed six: linebacker Dorian Bell and running back Jordan Hall from Pennsylvania; defensive end Melvin Fellows, offensive lineman Corey Linsley and defensive lineman Adam Bellamy from Ohio; and receiver James Jackson from Michigan.

Massillon defensive back Justin Turner kept Rodriguez from being shut out.

The coup de grace was Jackson, the No. 1 receiver and No. 3 overall player in Michigan who could have gone practically anywhere. The Buckeyes have lifted some gems from their northern neighbor in Craig Krenzel and Vernon Gholston, but both of them were unheralded players who exceeded projections. Jackson is considered a can't-miss prospect.

Four of the five newest Ohio State commitments came from players ranked in the top 10 at their positions nationally. It also includes two Rivals100 prospects in Gateway (Monroeville, Pa.) athlete Corey Brown and Male (Louisville) cornerback Justin Green. Throw in underappreciated safety Bradley McDougald and the nation's No. 2 fullback in Carlos Hyde, and it was a big weekend."


AND THIS HUGE QUOTE.........."Four-star dual-threat quarterback Kevin Newsome had no comment at the Elite 11 qualifier in Las Vegas this past weekend about Michigan.

Newsome's verbal commitment to the Wolverines has come into question of late. Close family friend Lew Johnston told The Virginian-Pilot of Norfolk that other schools have continued to recruit Newsome, including Virginia Tech — the school he grew up rooting for in Virginia."


And a very good article published in the NEW YORK Times about the "Two Sides of Tressel"..........Read it a few times already since it was published...this will help you out there RR.........and as you see he is a hell of a lot more man and coach than many...and I'll take his 2 sides over RR and others any day!!!

I show both sides of the picture...not just the good side or BS(were so good and almighty) side of the teams!!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/03/sports/ncaafootball/03tressel.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=dd7694db49f0bad1&ex=1325480400&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

[Redhunter1012]

I still think Newsome comes to UM. Not worried if he doesn't. We have Shavodrick Beaver already comitted, and Tate Forcier wants to if Newsome goes elsewhere. I'd be happy with any single one of them. Knowing that we'll get 2 of 3 is just icing on the cake. As far as Tressell, he paid players at YSU, and the stories are out there. It's so damn funny watching you guys almost cry everytime I rip on him or brag about UM:) . For the most part I keep shut when you guys drag up stupid stuff about RR having to pay 4mil and screwing WV. You guys haven't beaten him yet so you have to do something to fill your time. Oh, and UM is paying 2.5 and the other 1.5 get's paid by Boosters, which always happens at big Universities in these situations. As far as the whole recruiting head to head thing, that article is way off base. We offered Fellows before he first comitted to Illinois. The only ones you really beat us for are Linsley and Bellamy. We pretty much let you have Jackson since we got the higher rated McNeil. Still can't believe you guys took Fragel, we didn't even offer him even though he was begging for one:nono: . I can spin stories the same way you guys do. I'll admit I think you guys should handle us this year, after that, it's a tossup.


PS.........Tressell Sucks

[Deehntr56]

I still think Newsome comes to UM. Not worried if he doesn't. We have Shavodrick Beaver already comitted, and Tate Forcier wants to if Newsome goes elsewhere. I'd be happy with any single one of them. Knowing that we'll get 2 of 3 is just icing on the cake. As far as Tressell, he paid players at YSU, and the stories are out there. It's so damn funny watching you guys almost cry everytime I rip on him or brag about UM:) . For the most part I keep shut when you guys drag up stupid stuff about RR having to pay 4mil and screwing WV. You guys haven't beaten him yet so you have to do something to fill your time. Oh, and UM is paying 2.5 and the other 1.5 get's paid by Boosters, which always happens at big Universities in these situations. As far as the whole recruiting head to head thing, that article is way off base. We offered Fellows before he first comitted to Illinois. The only ones you really beat us for are Linsley and Bellamy. We pretty much let you have Jackson since we got the higher rated McNeil. Still can't believe you guys took Fragel, we didn't even offer him even though he was begging for one:nono: . I can spin stories the same way you guys do. I'll admit I think you guys should handle us this year, after that, it's a tossup.


PS.........Tressell Sucks


Ahhhhhhhhh, envy...got to love it!!!:biggrin:

Hahahahahahaha....we have nothing to cry about.....we continue to have a great program and win lots of games, and enjoy UM fans coming in here and whine about our great team........it makes my day...every day!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

Still love this article from the paper in Michigan!!!!!:biggrin:

Recruiting: OSU's Jim Tressel crushing U-M's Rich Rodriguez
FREE PRESS STAFF AND NEWS SERVICES • June 28, 2008

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Jeremy Crabtree of Rivals.com, via USAToday.com, writes that Ohio State is sitting at 22 commitments after picking up five more pledges in the past four days. It's the same type of tear they went on in late April, when they received five commitments in seven days. While that was impressive, the run the past few days has been nothing short of amazing.


Doug Harris of the Dayton Daily News writes that Ohio State getting super recruit Terrelle Pryor in March for the 2008 class has helped with the 2009 recruits.

"I know people who were at the spring game (with recruits), and when Pryor made an entrance, you just felt it," Duane Long, recruiting analyst for Bucknuts.com told the Dayton Daily News. "You knew something had happened. All these recruits were just whispering, 'There he is.' And with him being such a personable kid ... he just has an aura about him. And it definitely had an impact on these recruits."

The Daily News reports Ohio State's recruiting victories of late have been all the more sweet because they've come at the expense of rival Michigan. Ohio State coach Jim Tressel has gone head-to-head with new Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez for seven recruits and has landed six: linebacker Dorian Bell and running back Jordan Hall from Pennsylvania; defensive end Melvin Fellows, offensive lineman Corey Linsley and defensive lineman Adam Bellamy from Ohio; and receiver James Jackson from Michigan.

Massillon defensive back Justin Turner kept Rodriguez from being shut out.

The coup de grace was Jackson, the No. 1 receiver and No. 3 overall player in Michigan who could have gone practically anywhere. The Buckeyes have lifted some gems from their northern neighbor in Craig Krenzel and Vernon Gholston, but both of them were unheralded players who exceeded projections. Jackson is considered a can't-miss prospect.

Four of the five newest Ohio State commitments came from players ranked in the top 10 at their positions nationally. It also includes two Rivals100 prospects in Gateway (Monroeville, Pa.) athlete Corey Brown and Male (Louisville) cornerback Justin Green. Throw in underappreciated safety Bradley McDougald and the nation's No. 2 fullback in Carlos Hyde, and it was a big weekend.

Quick hit
Four-star dual-threat quarterback Kevin Newsome had no comment at the Elite 11 qualifier in Las Vegas this past weekend about Michigan.

Newsome's verbal commitment to the Wolverines has come into question of late. Close family friend Lew Johnston told The Virginian-Pilot of Norfolk that other schools have continued to recruit Newsome, including Virginia Tech — the school he grew up rooting for in Virginia.


TRESSEL RULES!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[jeffmo]

"I can spin stories the same way you guys do."

how did i "spin" the story about rr.it was an exact copy from espn.


As far as Tressell, he paid players at YSU, and the stories are out there. It's so damn funny watching you guys almost cry everytime I rip on him or brag about UM:) . For the most part I keep shut when you guys drag up stupid stuff


"Sounds familiar, like what he's being doing in C-Bus, doesn't it?"

so,what's going on in columbus?? i'm all ears on this one and just waiting for some kind of actual proof instead of the "my friend and two of his friends".
now i'm beginning to realize where all of your sacred "inside sources" come from!
what a joke!:coco: :coco: :coco: :coco:

[jeffmo]

"I'll admit I think you guys should handle us this year, after that, it's a tossup."

i'm hearing those pesky crickets again.

[Redhunter1012]

"I'll admit I think you guys should handle us this year, after that, it's a tossup."

i'm hearing those pesky crickets again.

You guys want everybody to bow down to St. Tress and his cheating ways, it ain't happening with me. OMG, I'd be shocked if Tressell didn't pull a few more recruits than RR, considering where your prgram has been the last few years and what RR inherited. It's not like St. Tress is inventing the wheel here guys. A monkey could get these guys as long as he was representing OSU. The same goes with USC and all their success. There aint no crickets here Jeffmo. I proudly and loudly support my team. I'm not completely stupid and gonna say "we'll kick your asses this year"! I think we have a decent shot of beating you guys this year. I mean, we still have highly touted kids at every position, just all new to the new offense. All these post's are pointless, but fun nonetheless. I love all you born again buckeyes with all your authentic Wal-Mart jerseys. Just brings a smile to my face:)

[jeffmo]

[QUOTE=Redhunter1012;256418]You guys want everybody to bow down to St. Tress and his cheating ways, it ain't happening with me. QUOTE]

no,nobody is wanting anyone to bow down.all i said was that i'd like to see some proof of the accusations that you're so quick to throw around about tressel and ohio state.something more than "my friend and his two friends" that is.you stated that it's going on in columbus.if you can't back up the statements then you're setting youself up.

"I love all you born again buckeyes with all your authentic Wal-Mart jerseys. Just brings a smile to my face"

i'm not born again,i've been an ohio state fan since 1964.

[Redhunter1012]

All I said was my buddy and his 2 friends ran into them at a bar in C-Bus drinking. Who Cares? If they weren't drinking and having fun then I'd be worried. I'm fairly confident that all the freshmen at UM are doing the same thing. All the proof is out there about what tressell did at YSU. He's a scumbag. Just like when he orchestrated the whole bombsniffing dog fiasco at the horshoe a few years ago. When the 2 coaches met at midfield before the game Lloyd asked St. Tress what that was about and he said that it was protocall all year long. Then after the game UofM looked into it by calling Wisconson and the others visitors and all of them said nothing like that happened. Then he lies his ass off to the public media saying he voted Texas #1. Come to find out, he lied and voted himself #1:tsk: . Or just this past year with the whole whining about the gentlemens agreement when RR stole Roundtree from Purdue at the last minute. Old St. Tress was trying to do the same with one of our recruits (patrick Omameh). Then he Steals Melvin Fellows from Illinois this spring (how that is considered beating RR head to head I'm not sure yet).

[Deehntr56]

NY Times article.....about Tressel....

"In Ann Arbor, He’s ‘a Weasel’

In Ann Arbor, Tressel has become a convenient foil, said Andrei Markovits, a professor of politics and German studies at Michigan. Ohio State is viewed as everything that Michigan purports not to be, Markovits said, noting that Wolverine supporters rejoice in Ohio State’s highly publicized troubles and convince themselves that Carr operates a cleaner, more honorable program.

The thinking at Michigan, Markovits said, is, “They may be better than us, but Tressel is basically a weasel and an opportunist and probably runs dirty things, and we are saints.” At some point, though, Markovits said, this holier-than-thou attitude becomes sour grapes:whistle: , because “they have won and we haven’t; that ultimately hurts.”"

That is what it's all about.......at some point......the holier than thou attitude.......becomes sour grapes......:biggrin:

[Deehntr56]

Recruiting: OSU's Jim Tressel crushing U-M's Rich Rodriguez
FREE PRESS STAFF AND NEWS SERVICES • June 28, 2008


Doug Harris of the Dayton Daily News writes that Ohio State getting super recruit Terrelle Pryor in March for the 2008 class has helped with the 2009 recruits.

"I know people who were at the spring game (with recruits), and when Pryor made an entrance, you just felt it," Duane Long, recruiting analyst for Bucknuts.com told the Dayton Daily News. "You knew something had happened. All these recruits were just whispering, 'There he is.' And with him being such a personable kid ... he just has an aura about him. And it definitely had an impact on these recruits."

The Daily News reports Ohio State's recruiting victories of late have been all the more sweet because they've come at the expense of rival Michigan. Ohio State coach Jim Tressel has gone head-to-head with new Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez for seven recruits and has landed six: linebacker Dorian Bell and running back Jordan Hall from Pennsylvania; defensive end Melvin Fellows, offensive lineman Corey Linsley and defensive lineman Adam Bellamy from Ohio; and receiver James Jackson from Michigan.

The coup de grace was Jackson, the No. 1 receiver and No. 3 overall player in Michigan who could have gone practically anywhere. The Buckeyes have lifted some gems from their northern neighbor in Craig Krenzel and Vernon Gholston, but both of them were unheralded players who exceeded projections. Jackson is considered a can't-miss prospect.

[Redhunter1012]

Wow Dee, how many times you gonna post that same paragraph about Jackson? LOL. We Let you guys have him after we got the higher rated and better overall reciever in McNeil:cheeky-smiley-022: If I recall, we're stll in it for Shaq too. That's after you aimlessly rambled how he was high on OSU and RR couldn't even get him to look our way.

[Deehntr56]

Buckeye Fans watching the UM/Appalachian game......this is hilarious...have the sound on ALL THE WAY....enjoy!!!:biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBjdka9uEw&feature=related


OH......"The coup de grace was Jackson, the No. 1 receiver and No. 3 overall player in Michigan who could have gone practically anywhere. The Buckeyes have lifted some gems from their northern neighbor in Craig Krenzel and Vernon Gholston, but both of them were unheralded players who exceeded projections. Jackson is considered a can't-miss prospect."

The difference is...we have a quarterback that can throw the ball!!!!

[jeffmo]

"Sounds familiar, like what he's being doing in C-Bus, doesn't it?"

still no facts?
well,i guess that there's NO ACTUAL PROOF of tressel breaking any rules in columbus huh? just another baseless statement.that's why i like the truth,sooner or later it always comes out in the end.
dee,you're exactly right,nothing more than sour grapes from u of m fans.i guess it's all they CAN do when their team is at rock bottom.

[Redhunter1012]

LOL! Rock Bottom. Yea, you guys got nothing to worry about then. Not even sure why you guys waste your time defending OSU and St. Tress to some sour grape fan like me:). Fear that for which you don't know. OK Jeffmo, I'll make a monetary wager with you. I'll bet you $20 that OSU finshes the regular season with atleast 2 losses. USC is a sure one, and I'll bet they lose atleast 1 more in conference. Any takers?

[coonskinner]

I am sure this money will not all come from his bank account.

if so how much friggin money does a coach make...rediculous...:mischeif:

[jeffmo]

LOL! Rock Bottom. Yea, you guys got nothing to worry about then. Not even sure why you guys waste your time defending OSU and St. Tress to some sour grape fan like me:). Fear that for which you don't know. OK Jeffmo, I'll make a monetary wager with you. I'll bet you $20 that OSU finshes the regular season with atleast 2 losses. USC is a sure one, and I'll bet they lose atleast 1 more in conference. Any takers?

i'll talk about a wager(not a measley $20 either,but one that'll make the loser pucker),AFTER i see some proof to this statement ;

"Sounds familiar, like what he's being doing in C-Bus, doesn't it?"

just curious but if last years season wasn't rock bottom for that glorious bunch of idiots then which one would be considered worse?

[jeffmo]

Division I Bowl · 08/18/2006
Michigan motivated by worst season in two decades


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By LARRY LAGE
AP Sports Writer

ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) - Chad Henne and Mike Hart chose to play at Michigan because they wanted to enjoy team success, not just personal accolades.

As freshmen two years ago, the quarterback and running back led the Wolverines to a Big Ten title and the Rose Bowl.

The duo, their teammates and Michigan's many fans were jolted last year by the worst season for college football's winningest program in more than two decades.

``We all came here because none of us like losing,'' Hart said. ``After a 7-5 year, if that doesn't motivate you, something is wrong.''

The Wolverines dedicated their summer to making last season an aberration.

They ran a lot - on the golf course and up steps in the stadium. They got out of bed to lift weights. They resisted the temptation of eating pizza and playing video games all night.

Whenever incentive was necessary, just thinking about last year's record provided an extra boost. Michigan was unranked in the final Associated Press poll for the first time since finishing .500 in 1984 - before Henne and Hart were born.

``Whenever you would feel yourself slacking or saw a teammate slacking, you would say, 'We don't want to be where we were last year!''' Hart recalled. ``That would help you finish a workout, or get to one.''

After his 11th season as coach and 27th on Michigan's staff, Lloyd Carr analyzed what went wrong last year and determined getting in better shape could help his team close games better.

The Wolverines lost to Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Ohio State and Nebraska by an average of four points. In each setback, they couldn't make key stops on defense or control the clock with a consistent running game on offense in the final minutes.

They did win three close games: Michigan State and Iowa in overtime and against Penn State on the final play.

The Wolverines hope to start and finish the season strong for a change.

Since winning a national championship in 1997, they have made it through September undefeated only once and have lost their first road game in seven of the last eight years.

``If you look at the profile of championship teams, the great percentage of times they get off to a fast start,'' Carr said.

After home tuneups against Vanderbilt and Central Michigan, Michigan plays at Notre Dame - where Carr hasn't won since he became head coach in 1995.

The 12-game regular season, without a bye week, ends Nov. 18 at Ohio State. The Buckeyes have won four of the last five games in the rivalry.

``Ohio State determines our season,'' senior linebacker LaMarr Woodley said. ``So, going in there and getting a win would do a lot for our season like it does whenever we win that game.''

Michigan has lost to Ohio State and its bowl opponents in each of the last two years.

``We're going to prove people wrong that think Michigan is down,'' Woodley said.

Henne and Hart lead an offense with six returning starters. Receiver Steve Breaston will get a chance to be a No. 1 receiver for the first time, and will be complemented by receiver Mario Manningham and tight end Tyler Ecker. Standout tackle Jake Long has been shifted from right to left tackle on an inexperienced line.

``Moving him to left tackle, where he really belongs, will really help us out on the backside and in the running game,'' Henne said.

Eight starters are back on defense, a unit led by Woodley, cornerback Leon Hall and defensive tackle Alan Branch.

Hall said he's going to need to be the best cornerback in the country because he has to face Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn, a Heisman Trophy candidate, and six Big Ten teams with veteran leadership at the most important position on the field.

``I'm definitely going to be tested because we're going against some great quarterbacks this year,'' he said.

Carr promoted Mike DeBord to offensive coordinator and Ron English to defensive coordinator after Terry Malone and Jim Herrmann took NFL coaching assignments during the offseason. DeBord hopes to make Michigan's running game more efficient while English wants the defense to attack, though he doesn't plan to blitz on every down.

The kicking game should help Michigan win games with kicker Garrett Rivas and punter Ross Ryan back along with Breaston as a returner.

Between Michigan's key games at Notre Dame and Ohio State, the Wolverines host Wisconsin, Michigan State and Iowa and play at Minnesota and Penn State.

``Some mountains are higher than others,'' Carr said. ``Certainly, when you look at our schedule, it's a challenging schedule.''

[jeffmo]

worst day,rock bottom,call it what ever.......


http://www.michigansportscenter.com/2007/09/recapping-worst-day-in-michigan.html

[coonskinner]

:yikes: :yikes: LMAO@JEFF!!!!


Money isn't always the answer...you have to live with yourself and your legacy, and what you were about........some can in their little minds and some just choose to do it correctly.

Tressel didn't bail on his team........in mid season, or right before the playoffs....he earned OSU's job with several National Titles.....and never ended up paying 4 mill back........:biggrin:

There was a way to do it properly...he just didn't. Accept the fact the UM is not clean...it likes some dirt in between it's finger nails here and there.....look at Manningham...who should be been kicked off the team for being High all the time...that didn't happen.

And why are all the recruits coming to play for Tressel.....Oh......he's not honest...he'll get me to the NFL....Somehow....he'll screw the system and get me there...I don't think so...ask Clarett!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

It's enjoyable to watch Tressel handle the diversity of running a team.....handles them well. Would love to spend a season with him.:biggrin:

OH NOT BOUT MONEY,EVA NOTICE WHAT THE COACHES DO AFTER THEYRE FIRED...YES ITS THE MONEY...OR TRESSEL AN HIS BROTHER(?) WOULDA STAYED AT YUNGTOWN...:dizzy:

[jeffmo]

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/gamecenter/recap/NCAAF_20070908_OR@MI

[Deehntr56]

LOL......Good one Jeff!!!

and some more vintage video.......Buckeye Fan reaction.......to UM loss.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfvJPDD8j8&feature=related


and the band gets involved too........LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZlDKs7dKaU&feature=related


CS....Sure money is invoved, just like you...having to work for MONEY every day, but if you know football and ego's other faCtors are involved as well......GO BUCKEYES!!!!!

Football season is around the corner.....!!!!

[Redhunter1012]

An honest question here. What should have RR done differently? I and everyone else knows that he bailed on WV. To get the job at UM, he had no other choice. He tried his butt off to be able to stay for the bowl game, but UM wanted their coach. No EFFING way St. Tressell woulda stayed at YSU with a game left if OSU had said it's now or never. And if you guys think all these coaches don't have ego's, then your sadly mistaken. Ask yourselves this... What is gonna happen when Cinncinatti or some other NFL team calls Tressell in the next year or 2 to guage his interest in the NFL? What happens when he's offeren 4-5 Million a year?

[jeffmo]

anyone with a shred of class would have told michigan they they were hired to do a job and that they wouldn't even talk about another job until the season was over.

[jeffmo]

[QUOTE=Redhunter1012;256563] No EFFING way St. Tressell woulda stayed at YSU with a game left if OSU had said it's now or never. QUOTE]

maybe ohio state DID tell him that.just because rr stooped low enough to set a new limbo record doesn't mean that tressel would have.didn't jt finish out his season???

[Deehntr56]

shred of class.....:D :D ....yep...just a shred.......and who knows what Tressel will do, only he can tell you that.....when and if it happens we'll ll find out......but he hasn't left a team hanging yet!!:cheeky-smiley-022: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Oh...I forgot this one again...... "The Daily News reports Ohio State's recruiting victories of late have been all the more sweet because they've come at the expense of rival Michigan. Ohio State coach Jim Tressel has gone head-to-head with new Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez for seven recruits and has landed six: linebacker Dorian Bell and running back Jordan Hall from Pennsylvania; defensive end Melvin Fellows, offensive lineman Corey Linsley and defensive lineman Adam Bellamy from Ohio; and receiver James Jackson from Michigan.

The coup de grace was Jackson, the No. 1 receiver and No. 3 overall player in Michigan who could have gone practically anywhere. The Buckeyes have lifted some gems from their northern neighbor in Craig Krenzel and Vernon Gholston, but both of them were unheralded players who exceeded projections. Jackson is considered a can't-miss prospect."

[Redhunter1012]

shred of class.....:D :D ....yep...just a shred.......and who knows what Tressel will do, only he can tell you that.....when and if it happens we'll ll find out......but he hasn't left a team hanging yet!!:cheeky-smiley-022: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Oh...I forgot this one again...... "The Daily News reports Ohio State's recruiting victories of late have been all the more sweet because they've come at the expense of rival Michigan. Ohio State coach Jim Tressel has gone head-to-head with new Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez for seven recruits and has landed six: linebacker Dorian Bell and running back Jordan Hall from Pennsylvania; defensive end Melvin Fellows, offensive lineman Corey Linsley and defensive lineman Adam Bellamy from Ohio; and receiver James Jackson from Michigan.

The coup de grace was Jackson, the No. 1 receiver and No. 3 overall player in Michigan who could have gone practically anywhere. The Buckeyes have lifted some gems from their northern neighbor in Craig Krenzel and Vernon Gholston, but both of them were unheralded players who exceeded projections. Jackson is considered a can't-miss prospect."

Ahh, Dee, somehow I knew I was in for the whole repeating thing:) I guess I kinda deserved that. You guys almost got me convinced Tressell is morally better than the rest. IMO, WV should thank RR for bringing them from the pits of college football into a national power. They should be yelling at their AD and president fornot holding up to their ends of ther bargain.

[Deehntr56]

Ahh, Dee, somehow I knew I was in for the whole repeating thing:) I guess I kinda deserved that. You guys almost got me convinced Tressell is morally better than the rest. IMO, WV should thank RR for bringing them from the pits of college football into a national power. They should be yelling at their AD and president fornot holding up to their ends of ther bargain.


Last time, I took Law Class...the judement that went against the loser of the disagreement had to pay......The one who had to pay didn't hold up his part of the deal,:tsk: and last I looked:whistle: WV didn't have to pay...they got 4 mil back!......:biggrin: :biggrin:


Judgement WVU!:biggrin:


Here's a new one this time.........."The coup de grace was Jackson, the No. 1 receiver and No. 3 overall player in Michigan who could have gone practically anywhere. The Buckeyes have lifted some gems from their northern neighbor in Craig Krenzel and Vernon Gholston, but both of them were unheralded players who exceeded projections. Jackson is considered a can't-miss prospect."

I bolded it, underlined and Italicized!!!:biggrin: :bouncy:

[jeffmo]

this lays it all out in the open.
they sure got a stand up guy huh?
in time,the press will gonna crucify him up there in idiot arbor.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2008/07/10/rodcommentary.html?sid=101

[Deehntr56]

Always...always...always...keep an open mind...you never know what your going to get......WOW........I have been saying all along.....watch him.......he's tricky...he's out for himself......(many are)...but he'll do whatever.....

one quote........from this article......"There are only two winners here. One is West Virginia, which will get the $4 million it is rightfully owed. The other is those of us who just wanted the truth.

We now know Rodriguez to be a serial job-shopper. His agent, Mike Brown, had pitched Rodriguez's services to Alabama, Arkansas and Louisiana State in recent years before pursuing Michigan.

We now know Rodriguez doesn't believe in contracts. He signed an amended contract with West Virginia just four months before he left. He then said that the signed contract was not as important as an oral agreement that preceded it -- a laughable legal argument."

Tells the whole story....and covering for RR....Means nothing...it's all on black and white......you have what you have......

[Redhunter1012]

The funny thing is, millions of Americans leave jobs every year for better ones, and aren't labeled as self centered, greedy or whatever. Honestly, he did the right thing IMO. Let's see, stay at WV and be underpaid and lied to about what they are gonna do for you and the program. Or, go to arguablt the most recognizable brand in your profession for a hell of alot more money and resources and get to play with better players. Hmmmm.....Not sure what the confusion is? Oh, that's right. He shoulda said no thanks because his season wasn't finished. Nevermind the fact that his property was trashed and his family's life's were threatened after the loss to Pitt. Can you imagine if he woulda stayed just for that last game. I'm thinking safety was a priority in his decision. I hope you guys have fun ripping, cause he will dominate the Big10 within a few years

[jeffmo]

I hope you guys have fun ripping, cause he will dominate the Big10 within a few years

well,NOW is the time to talk about wagers.
how about $100 each year,on THE GAME,for the next 10 years???
that's how much i think he's gonna dominate.

[Redhunter1012]

well,NOW is the time to talk about wagers.
how about $100 each year,on THE GAME,for the next 10 years???
that's how much i think he's gonna dominate.

Now I know who you are Jeffmo. Your that loudmouth in the bar that swears he's better than me at pool, but when challenged to do it for $20, he says it's not enough money. Dude, I couldn't afford to lose $100. Not afraid to lose a bet, I just couldn't afford it Bro. Not that I'd trust somebody on the internet to pay up anyhow. I offered $20, you said no. I offered a guided trip for Walleye on the Maumee if you showed up. I'd even supply all the tackle. And I'd have no hard feelings cause it's just a couple passionate fans. This is a trip alot of guys would jump at. But still, it's not enough for you. So I'll just forget the whole thing with you. But, my offer still stands with Dee. I know whoever fishes with me has a blast and always gets fish. Dee, if the bucks win, we'll have an awesome time up there on the Maumee if you can make it. I'll even wear a OSU hat and take pics for you to post if you provide one.

[jeffmo]

Now I know who you are Jeffmo. Your that loudmouth in the bar that swears he's better than me at pool, but when challenged to do it for $20, he says it's not enough money. Dude, I couldn't afford to lose $100. Not afraid to lose a bet, I just couldn't afford it Bro. Not that I'd trust somebody on the internet to pay up anyhow. I offered $20, you said no. I offered a guided trip for Walleye on the Maumee if you showed up. I'd even supply all the tackle. And I'd have no hard feelings cause it's just a couple passionate fans. This is a trip alot of guys would jump at. But still, it's not enough for you. So I'll just forget the whole thing with you. But, my offer still stands with Dee. I know whoever fishes with me has a blast and always gets fish. Dee, if the bucks win, we'll have an awesome time up there on the Maumee if you can make it. I'll even wear a OSU hat and take pics for you to post if you provide one.

well,you won't see this guy in a bar being a loudmouth.i don't fish the walleye run any more either.
how about a simple bet.the loser uses the other persons avatar for the entire year.no money involved.

[Redhunter1012]

well,you won't see this guy in a bar being a loudmouth.i don't fish the walleye run any more either.
how about a simple bet.the loser uses the other persons avatar for the entire year.no money involved.

First of all, I was out of line yesterday. I found out our shop is closing down so I'm kinda looking for a job within next 2 weeks. Shouldn't let it get the best of me. The walleye run is a blast. It's not a snagfest like it used to be. Most of us use floaters very successfully. You should reconsider. I will however agree to your proposal of the avatar. I'll have to find a reasonable depicting something bad of OSU:p Regardless of the outcome, I always tell anybosy on here if they wanna try the walleye run, I'd be happy to lend a hand and show you the ropes up there.

[jeffmo]

don't worry about it.i'm pretty thick skinned.
i use to fish the walleye run but just couldn't get use to the crowds.not quite my style of fishing.

[Deehntr56]

RR is a waste...he's a wussy...he's a horbrile coach and won't go anywhere.....Just kidding......you were both starting to hug....so I had to turn it back into the right direction.:cheeky-smiley-022: .!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:

[Redhunter1012]

Very nice Dee! LOL! Jeffmo, it definitely is combat fishing at it's finest sometimes. Usually, I fish early mornings during the week and almost always get a spot to myself.

[Deehntr56]

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Deehntr56]

Another article.....


http://coacheshotseat.com/coacheshotseatblog/?p=179