Traditional Archery Clinic near Sunbury on 7-26-03

[heydeerman]

Here is a copy of the flyer:

Bowhunters

Have you ever given the Recurve or Longbow more than a passing thought? Have you ever picked up a Traditional bow and said to yourself, "I wish I could shoot that?"

Have you ever wondered about the primitive side of archery or wanted to get more simplistic in your archery and hunting experience and didnt know where to go for answers?

Hunters headquarters (Formerly Outdoors Sportsman) near Sunbury at the corner of S.R. 3 and S.R. 605, is holding a Traditional Archery and Hunting Clinic on saturday, July 26, from 12 noon till 4 pm.

Jim Suttinger who is from the area will be on hand to answer your questions and will have longbows from Chaparral Archery for you to shoot. Jim is a Representitive for Chaparral Archery and a member of the Ohio Society of Traditional Archers.

Topics to be Discussed: How to shoot a traditional bow. Hunting techniques with traditional equipment.The history of archery. the simplicity of traditional archery.

No need to attend the whole 4 hours. Just come and go as you please. there will be plenty of time for one on one attention as you explore the world of Traditional Archery.

Call 740-965-4868 for more info. ( Thats the shop's number)

Like to see some of you there.

[heydeerman]

This is next Saturday and looks like a few from the "other" Ohio thread will be there. Hope to see a few of you.

[heydeerman]

Here is a copy of the article that was in todays Columbus Dispatch on the back of the Sports page.


Sports > Outdoors

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OUTDOORS
Hunter favors traditional bow over compound
Thursday, July 24, 2003
By Dave Golowenski FOR THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Though he has become a traditional hunter, Jim Suttinger doesn’t always sound like a typical hunter.

"One of these days I’d like to be able to take my bow and reach out and touch a deer with it," he said. "That’d mean as much to me as actually taking it."

Such a spoken sentiment shouldn’t be taken as a sign that Suttinger is burdened by ambivalence toward the life-anddeath nature of his sport. As primarily an urban-zone hunter in southern Delaware County, Suttinger, 38, takes as many as three or four deer each season for the family larder.

Instead, consider such a daydream as testimony to how much more stringent he believes are the demands on a hunter using a recurve or longbow instead of a modern compound bow.

"You have to know your limit," said Suttinger, a Sunburyarea resident who picked up the traditional habit several years ago as he was falling off the compound wagon. "Most (traditional) guys I know will shoot 20 yards at the max. Most shots, though, are 10, 12, 15 yards."

That’s practically hand-tohoof combat compared with the 30-, 40-yard and longer shooting distances some compound and many crossbow hunters consider to be within optimum range.

In order to compensate for the fact that traditional bows generally have less length and accuracy than modern technoenhanced equipment, hunters who use them must put a premium on stealth by getting as close as possible to their quarry, Suttinger said.

"It’s changed my methods. I seldom will sit in a tree. I hunt on the ground 90 percent of the time," he said. "I also prefer when the wind is blowing 30 mph and it’s raining. That’s a time when most other guys won’t go hunting."

While wind and rain can drown out a hunter’s noise and dispel problem scent that might alert a foraging or targeted deer, the traditional bow itself helps the hunter by operating silently.

After dropping a doe among a group of three from about 15 feet last season, the twangless release of Suttinger’s arrow failed to create even a tail twitch from the remaining pair.

"I ended up almost having to shoo them away," he said.

However, that’s not usually the case when it comes to bowhunters, who tend to be attracted by modern equipment. Although Suttinger represents Chaparral Archery, an Arizona maker of moderately priced, at $350 to $400, traditional bows, he’s making no claims about visions of altering any bowhunting landscape but his own.

Yet while he recognizes not every hunter seeks a higher degree of difficulty, the reminders come not infrequently that a few doughty souls always are game.

"A guy I sold a bow to (Saturday) said, ‘I would like a challenge’ " said Suttinger, who was more than happy to sell him one.

And not an impossible challenge, mind you, or what would be the point? As he plans to demonstrate Saturday afternoon during a seminar to be held at Hunters Headquarters near Sunbury, learning to shoot a traditional bow is a matter of being fitted with an instrument that matches the user’s strength, heeding a few simple instructions and practicing what has been preached.

Suttinger would like to see a bow-buying convert or two step toward the railing Saturday from the flock he hopes to bring toward the traditional light.

"The people I’m focusing on now are the ones who use compunds and crossbows," he said. "They’re just like me. At least the way I used to be."


outdoors@dispatch.com


Free clinic
Jim Suttinger, a representative of Chaparral Archery, will offer a free clinic Saturday, noon to 4 p.m., at Hunters Headquarters on the use of traditional bows to hunt deer and other game. Hunters Headquarters is located north of Sunbury on Rt. 3 near the corner of Rt. 605. For details, phone 740-965-4868.



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[george tinkham]

hdm...i am holdin the article in muh han as i peck,guess you got here 1st you scoundrel.you been holden out on us...also there of interest is a article bout hog huntin in ohio.hog population in vinton an hockin counties.i also know some of these spilled over into athens but was surprised to here there are still some around.i belive they are escapies from the old no kill no pay operation that was in that area that was shut down bout 10 yrs ago

[Thunderflight]

If you all really want hogs I could start smuggling them up from South Carolina. Be careful what you wish for. The dang hogs might just take over your hunting area's and the deer will move off.

TF

[Thunderflight]

HDM,

Great article. I hope the clinic goes well.

TF

ps: Are you going to have OSTA appications there?

[george tinkham]

thnflt,shoot you should had sed something to john,hes the man when it comes to joinin osta

[Thunderflight]

Oh I didn't mean for me..... I ment for "my friend"....:)

TF

[heydeerman]

I never thought about OSTA applications. If I can find one around here I'll make a few copies and see what happens. If someone comes and is able to bring a few please do.

[george tinkham]

hope it went well,i couldnt make it to much going on round the house

[Thunderflight]

It was pretty cool. Jim Suttinger (aka: Heydeerman) seems like a pretty good guy. I also really liked those Chaparral bows. They are pretty sweet!!!!!!!!! I may just have to get one when I return from cruise.

TF

[george tinkham]

jim is a-ok and has already put trad. archery,all of archeryand huntin...in a good light an out there to be seen by all

[Thunderflight]

There where quite a few people there checking out the bows too.

What also surprised me is the amount of traditional archers in Ohio. The numbers are slowly growing.

TF

[george tinkham]

hopefully the newspaper story brought in some "new" to archery.

[Thunderflight]

Come to think about it, I think I did see Darth Vador....

The dark side is powerful,,,, Turn to the "Dark Side"....:rolleyes:

TF

http://snoot.org/i/wuss/vader.jpg

[heydeerman]

Thunderflight my son.....

You have one more task to complete to make the transition to the Dark Side. You know what you must do......

:D


Clinic went well. We closed the place shooting with a couple guys who are compounders. Sold a bow to a compounder who shot one of these bows a couple weeks ago and said that is all he has been thinking about since then. When the Traditional bug bites you gotta scratch.

I ended up trading my last rifle for a brand new Assenheimer recurve. Keepin my scatter gun and thats all I got beside bows now.

Sure would like to do this at another shop somewhere. If anyone knows of a shop anywhere in Ohio who would like to give traditional a shot and have a clinic let me know. That was a blast.

[george tinkham]

i think i would trade my scoped inline muzz/gear for a new assenhiemer or very good con. used one at 55#/28" 60"

[heydeerman]

I traded a 45 cal. Knight Disc with extended fluted barrell and Bushnell 3-9 power scope. had exactly 11 rounds fired out of it. The Assenheimer is a brand new 2003 60" 53@28 Hunter (Supreme ?) . I proly took a little hit as far as money goes but I have always wanted an Assenheimer. Best recurves I have ever shot. Almost too pretty to shoot. Looks like gray actionwood with cocobolo and cocobolo stained bamboo limbs. Awesome looking bow. I am happy with the trade.

[Thunderflight]

I will never sell my Mathews!!!!!!!!!!!!

Until I've killed a few descent bucks or become more confident with trad gear...;)

Thunderflight

[george tinkham]

oh that really does it,the part bout bamboo limbs...

[Thunderflight]

I saw it. It is a nice looking bow. HDM, wouldn't let me shoot it though....:)

TF

[heydeerman]

The next time you go to your stand Thunderflight, and your rest has moved or your site pins are broke will be the last time you carry a compound. Its inevitable. Its growing inside you like an alien and there is nothing you can do about it:D .

I remember telling Jamie Miller on the bowsite when I bought my recurve and started playing around with it that I would never sell my Hoyt compound. She's been long gone.

Its just a matter of time.

BTW Bamboo Viper,
The limbs have an actionwood core with bamboo. Got to looking close. I'll try to get a pic on.

[hntnfsh]

Jim,

I stopped in at "Hunter's Headquarters" on Friday afternoon and dropped off 20 shoot flyers for OSTA. Did you see them?

I had a problem with the guy behind the archery counter. I think his name was Steve? I'd like to talk to you about it... Offline.

I couldn't make it on Saturday. Was moving a friend's father into an assisted living facility. Took a lot longer than I thought.

John

[Thunderflight]

OOPS.....

I think I used those flyers for signing autographs......

TF

[hntnfsh]

http://www.photo.net/photo/pcd4229/ ces-autograph-27

Hmm. Thought I had it.

[hntnfsh]

http://http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.photo.net/photo/pcd4229/ces-autograph-27.3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.photo.net/photo/pcd4229/ces-autograph-27&h=536&w=530&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dautograph%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr %3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

[hntnfsh]

Errk me!

[hntnfsh]

http://www.photo.net/photo/pcd4229/ces-autograph-27.3.jpg

There HE is!

[Thunderflight]

I was wearing a wig....:)

TF

[Thunderflight]

I also stuffed a few pillows in my shirt too....:eek:

TF

[hntnfsh]

But I almost didn't recognize you with the glasses on...


http://www.barron.palo-alto.ca.us/history/graphics/glasses.jpg

[heydeerman]

I wanna know why that fat guy is getting an autograph from this guy with all the muscles with no shirt on.


Man that looks wierd.
:confused:

[Thunderflight]

Actually he was writing a check for $1,000,000 for my autograph. I'm going to use the money to buy a couple of bows....:)

TF

[hntnfsh]

Hey... Who you callin' fat? :D

http://www.realgoodmovies.com/stills/goldmember_fat_bastard.jpg

[george tinkham]

that is the thing that mulled me...

[heydeerman]

And whats this GVA I see in the background????

[Thunderflight]

I've created a bunch of internet monsters!!!!!!!!!

TF

http://www.wetlandspro.com/geek.jpg

[hntnfsh]

Hmm. Now that you mention it, what IS GVA?

TF, you didn't create us, just made us dangerous with knowledge! :D

http://sja.ucdavis.edu/images/einstein-lg.jpg

[Thunderflight]

Aww yes grasshopper....

Your training is almost complete...

TF


http://www.lauriebarrows.com/images/kung_fu_grasshopper.gif

[heydeerman]

What was this thread about anyway?????......Oh yes!!

What does GVA mean?

[Thunderflight]

Got me, I barely graduated high school....:eek:

Actually I think it's General Video ???? There's a banner in the back ground.

So,,,, How about them stick bows....

TF

[heydeerman]

Dont try to change the subject.

[Thunderflight]

Hey, I didn't post the picture..... :)

Anyone bought any new bows?

TF

[george tinkham]

no new (old) bows here,i been cut off...but i have been sneakin back to ebay again