Best Atv tires for mudd

[davefishhunt]

Hello I was wondering if anyone has had experience with atv tires. I'm looking for some good mudd tires that won't break my bank. I'm looking at the swamp witch on ebay. Has anybody heard anything about these tires.

[OhioHunter88]

You should be alright with those, They look basically like a cheaper version of ITP 589's, I know a guy who has 27" 589's on his bike and it does excellent in mud, and very good in deep mud, So you should be mine, I'm not sure what your bike is but with the big lugs of the tires they seem kind of hard to turn, but if you just ride mud or only ride a little you'll be fine.

[bowhunter1023]

Those will do well for you. Check out Dicks ATV (http://www.dicksatv.com/) for some great deals on tires and rims. I bought the 26" ITP Mudlite AT's on Type 4 rims on a Wednesday and had them delivered free of charge to my door that Friday. Great service!

[davefishhunt]

I think they will work aswell. I was looking at the 589 itp tire and thely are a bit pricy. I found a web site where everybody ownes a grizzly. I own a 2001 grizzly 600 4x4. I was reading some of the forums and it seems that if i put bigger tires on my quad ill have to install a different clutch kit and a jet system. I don't understand what these are or why i would have to. Maybe you could shed some light on this for me.:irked:

[bowhunter1023]

You need more torque to turn bigger tires. I doubt the cluth would be nessecary, but the jet kit would be a good idea. Go www.wnfgang.com and ask around, those guys will take care of you.

[OhioStuds2310]

Agree! ITP 589's

[OhioHunter88]

I think they will work aswell. I was looking at the 589 itp tire and thely are a bit pricy. I found a web site where everybody ownes a grizzly. I own a 2001 grizzly 600 4x4. I was reading some of the forums and it seems that if i put bigger tires on my quad ill have to install a different clutch kit and a jet system. I don't understand what these are or why i would have to. Maybe you could shed some light on this for me.:irked:

Depending on how much bigger of tires you are going to run you will be alright, if you go bigger than 2 or 3 inches taller and wider I would say that it would be best to get a pipe and a K&N airfilter and then rejet, You dont have to rejet unless you get a pipe and airfilter or just pipe, you will need to get the jet kit if you get a pipe and filter because your bike will run leaner. Just a jet kit by its self would be pretty much worthles..
Most people that do lots of mud riding and bit a good bit bigger tires and a lift on put on a clutch kit...If you just run the same size as stock or an inch taller and you could go a little wider you will be alright with out doing or putting any mods on.

If your interested in mud riding or any of those types of parts look at www.highlifter.com and they have a forum also..

[WRS77]

I was just looking at tire packages today, I was looking at the Terra Tracks, they seem like they have a pretty good tread pattern. I don't know how well they would work in really deep mud, but they look like they would hook up pretty well. I'll have to take a look at these 589's everyone is talking about.

[XX78]

It wouldn't suprise me in the least if places like the Wayne started cracking down on some of these huge wheel kits and super aggressive tires. I have seen many places wrecked after the 4X4 get a hold of a place.

[rhino2726]

The GBC gators are a all around good mud tire and wont tear the yard up much.

[OhioHunter88]

The GBC gators are a all around good mud tire and wont tear the yard up much.
The gators do look pretty good, ive never tried them, But I do have GBC dirt devils on now.

[WRS77]

It wouldn't suprise me in the least if places like the Wayne started cracking down on some of these huge wheel kits and super aggressive tires. I have seen many places wrecked after the 4X4 get a hold of a place.

Just a question, how does this have anything to do with helping this person figure out which tires he would like to purchase? I mean really:confused: ???

[XX78]

Just a question, how does this have anything to do with helping this person figure out which tires he would like to purchase? I mean really:confused: ???
I can't help but wonder If I used smaller words would you have un·der·stood (-stŏŏd')? Seriously if you want to be the hijack police my comment would be somewhere near the bottom of this site's offenses. If the guy was buying tires to use on a quad for private use, that's great. Hell even if he uses it on public trails more power to him. I guess I was trying to raise a little awareness regarding the state of some of those trails after some guys go in with over agressive mud kits on them. Anyone that has taken a kid, smaller bike or quad knows how tough it can be. Often 4x4s can get away with less agressive tire. Maybe you can understand this: Bigger is much better for you at the moment cause its fun to throw mud but not more better for others and the trails when you leave.

[WRS77]

I can't help but wonder If I used smaller words would you have un·der·stood (-stŏŏd')? Seriously if you want to be the hijack police my comment would be somewhere near the bottom of this site's offenses. If the guy was buying tires to use on a quad for private use, that's great. Hell even if he uses it on public trails more power to him. I guess I was trying to raise a little awareness regarding the state of some of those trails after some guys go in with over agressive mud kits on them. Anyone that has taken a kid, smaller bike or quad knows how tough it can be. Often 4x4s can get away with less agressive tire. Maybe you can understand this: Bigger is much better for you at the moment cause its fun to throw mud but not more better for others and the trails when you leave.

No thank you I don't need smaller words. Just wondering ho what you mentioned helps him with his question. If you want to start your own thread about how too aggresive tire packages are destroying alot of public riding trails and lands then that's great. I just don't see your train of thought as to how you figured it fit into tthis thread about purchasing new tires for an ATV.

[bowhunter1023]

It wouldn't suprise me in the least if places like the Wayne started cracking down on some of these huge wheel kits and super aggressive tires. I have seen many places wrecked after the 4X4 get a hold of a place.

Those trails at the Wayne are kept in great shape. If someone has a kid or can't handle the tougher portions, stay on the outer loop. I would love to see some harder riding at the Wayne. We put in 10 miles yesterday on our trails and the Wayne can't touch some of the mud riding we have. I think one of the last things the Wayne has to worry about is 4x4's and their tires...

[Francis]

I'm not the mudding person. I'm the racing kind of person, but on some trails I do it mud holes.

[XX78]

Those trails at the Wayne are kept in great shape. If someone has a kid or can't handle the tougher portions, stay on the outer loop. I would love to see some harder riding at the Wayne. We put in 10 miles yesterday on our trails and the Wayne can't touch some of the mud riding we have. I think one of the last things the Wayne has to worry about is 4x4's and their tires...

I feel you and agree for the most part. Have you ever been to perry state forest? Spots there are horrendous. Its cool to mud and all but sometimes it is really taken overboard. Elson street, Crows have been rutted up pretty bad. I can go pretty much anywhere rutted, but it really beats the hell out of you.

As for the wayne I'd rather see a crack down on drinking and directional trails. I will stop my comments as to not hijack this thread further, my apologies.

[OhioHunter88]

I feel you and agree for the most part. Have you ever been to perry state forest? Spots there are horrendous. Its cool to mud and all but sometimes it is really taken overboard. Elson street, Crows have been rutted up pretty bad. I can go pretty much anywhere rutted, but it really beats the hell out of you.

As for the wayne I'd rather see a crack down on drinking and directional trails. I will stop my comments as to not hijack this thread further, my apologies.

I would say that Those dang perry countains tear the crap out of that place;)

[davefishhunt]

Sorry for taking so long to reply, had easter and spring break to enjoy. I just want everyone to know I take all comments/replys into consideration. I appreciate all the good replys that i got so far. I went to the huber heights gander mountain this weekend and I finally made my mind up. They have the ITP tires there and they are going to look sharp on my grizzly.I'm in college so that means the university is rich and I'm poor so ill prob buy the back tires first and then later buy the front tires. The size that i'm considering is the 27x12x12. I do a lot of farm work with my grizzly like pulling logs, pushing dirt with my snow plow, AND discing up my food plots I absolutly love my GRIZZLY. But just want everybody to know that I appreciate everybodies reply. :)

[MagnumMudMan]

Sorry for taking so long to reply, had easter and spring break to enjoy. I just want everyone to know I take all comments/replys into consideration. I appreciate all the good replys that i got so far. I went to the huber heights gander mountain this weekend and I finally made my mind up. They have the ITP tires there and they are going to look sharp on my grizzly.I'm in college so that means the university is rich and I'm poor so ill prob buy the back tires first and then later buy the front tires. The size that i'm considering is the 27x12x12. I do a lot of farm work with my grizzly like pulling logs, pushing dirt with my snow plow, AND discing up my food plots I absolutly love my GRIZZLY. But just want everybody to know that I appreciate everybodies reply. :)

Dave - Are you replacing the rear 25 inch tires with 27 inch tires and leaving the stock front tires on? Your going to have 25 inch tires on the front and 27 inch tires on the back. This won't work well with your 4wd. It won't affect anything in 2wd, but it will in 4wd. I would seriously consider going with all four tires being 27 inch.

The 589's are good tires, but they are heavy. If you start to notice the belt slipping, you may need a clutch kit in the CVT to change the belt engaging to compensate for the heavier tires. The stock clutching is set up for stock tires. Once you change this, you may need to make clutch changes to compensate.

[stumphole 2]

Dave - Are you replacing the rear 25 inch tires with 27 inch tires and leaving the stock front tires on? Your going to have 25 inch tires on the front and 27 inch tires on the back. This won't work well with your 4wd. It won't affect anything in 2wd, but it will in 4wd. I would seriously consider going with all four tires being 27 inch.

The 589's are good tires, but they are heavy. If you start to notice the belt slipping, you may need a clutch kit in the CVT to change the belt engaging to compensate for the heavier tires. The stock clutching is set up for stock tires. Once you change this, you may need to make clutch changes to compensate.

best point so far. You have to have 27"'s all around. They are a super heavy tire in most applications they are used by underpowered quads. I see that so may quads with mudlites on them and the person doesn't have the power to turn the tires. I don't think that will effect you much with the 660 but it will increase your cv angles and wear on your machine. I would personally stick with the stock size, if they make them.

[MagnumMudMan]

best point so far. You have to have 27"'s all around. They are a super heavy tire in most applications they are used by underpowered quads. I see that so may quads with mudlites on them and the person doesn't have the power to turn the tires. I don't think that will effect you much with the 660 but it will increase your cv angles and wear on your machine. I would personally stick with the stock size, if they make them.

My buddy put 27 inch Mudlite XTR's on his 06 Rincon and while it would turn them fine, the extra weight was a huge drag on the quad. The Grizzly 660 will turn 27 inch tires just fine, but your right, bigger tires equal extra wear on all components.

Personally, for a farm use type machine, I would opt for a set of 25 or 26 inch Mud Lites or Mud Lite XT's. Not near as heavy as some of the big lug 27 inch tires and far less wear and tear on the machine.

[davefishhunt]

I never considered that it would tear my quad down I DON'T want that. So 26 is still big does it matter if i have agressive mudders like deep lugs. Could i get wider tires say 26x12x12 would the extra width affect my quad as well.

[MagnumMudMan]

I never considered that it would tear my quad down I DON'T want that. So 26 is still big does it matter if i have agressive mudders like deep lugs. Could i get wider tires say 26x12x12 would the extra width affect my quad as well.

Extra width tires really won't affect the CV joint angles, so no, from that sense, it won't put additional wear on the drivetrain. However, they do weigh more and take more power to turn.

I wouldn't hesitate to put a set of 26 inch tires on with medium lugs. Think of it this way, your quad is designed for the size and weight of stock tires. Anything bigger and heavier is going to cause additional wear. Obviously, a 25 inch mud tire (stock size, but heavier) is going to put less driveline wear on the atv than a 26 inch tire will.

I'm not trying to discourage you from getting a 26 inch or even a 27 inch tire. Just trying to help you understand that there is a trade off when going to bigger, heavier tires. Taller tires change the handling of the machine and increase the cv joint angles while heavier tires (typical of big lug mud tires) take more power to turn.

[stumphole 2]

Extra width tires really won't affect the CV joint angles, so no, from that sense, it won't put additional wear on the drivetrain. However, they do weigh more and take more power to turn.

I wouldn't hesitate to put a set of 26 inch tires on with medium lugs. Think of it this way, your quad is designed for the size and weight of stock tires. Anything bigger and heavier is going to cause additional wear. Obviously, a 25 inch mud tire (stock size, but heavier) is going to put less driveline wear on the atv than a 26 inch tire will.

I'm not trying to discourage you from getting a 26 inch or even a 27 inch tire. Just trying to help you understand that there is a trade off when going to bigger, heavier tires. Taller tires change the handling of the machine and increase the cv joint angles while heavier tires (typical of big lug mud tires) take more power to turn.


MMM is correct in what he is saying. i would like to add that they only thing that it would effect,and it may not in your case, is it may add a little bump steer in your front end. I found going with a wider tire added a little to my bike but they are two different animals. I would stay as close to stock as possible. I.E. 26" just for the wear issue on your machine but it is ultimatly up to you good luck.

[davefishhunt]

I truely appreciate all the help guys I was looking on ebay and i found a pair of 26x8x12 for 290. I was also wondering about wheel spacers. Whats the whole idea behind wheel spacers. I know its to widen the width between the tires does it give the fourwheeler better handling.

[stumphole 2]

I run spacers just for the cost factor vs. +2 a arms. It increases bump steer a lot and tends to wear on your spindles and bearings. I have no issues re reliablity but keep in mind the wear issues. I am running them on a sport bike vs. a utility though. I would stay away from them if i were you just get a little wider tire. They also make your turning radius quite a bid larger but the stability is nice when I am running 50+ mph though wayne national trails. If you do go with spacers get the billet ones not the individual post ones. and not the high impact polymer ones. I have seen the polymer ones break out around th holes. Again I haven't had the first issue with my billet ones. My bike is sitting at 49.5" in the front and 50.5" in the rear.

[stumphole 2]

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[MagnumMudMan]

I truely appreciate all the help guys I was looking on ebay and i found a pair of 26x8x12 for 290. I was also wondering about wheel spacers. Whats the whole idea behind wheel spacers. I know its to widen the width between the tires does it give the fourwheeler better handling.

What brand of tire are those 26x8x12's for $290? Check out www.dicksatv.com (http://www.dicksatv.com) They are about the cheapest that I have found. Email them for a price.

I would not put wheel spacers on a utility quad. As SH2 said, sport quads run them to gain some stability, but as always there is a trade-off. Widening out your tires/rims makes them more prone to catching on rocks/stumps/trees/etc. For an experienced sport quad rider, this isn't a big deal, but I didn't think any benefits you gain by the wider tires is worth the risk of hitting the tires off everything along the trail for a utility quad.

I have ITP ATR's on my Rincon, mounted on +1 C-Series type 4 ITP rims. The +1 rims stick out 1 inch farther on each side. To do it over again, I would not have gotten offset rims. The extra stability is not worth them banging off everything. We rode down your way (Frankfort area) along North fork creek area and I was bashing the tires off all sorts of things as the trails were pretty narrow.