Hunt with 2 guns???

[I_AM_LEGEND]

I've squirrel hunted before on state park land with a 22 and a shotty, just wondering if it's legal or not... Only found restrictions for when you're deer hunting.. I'd like to be able to take a rifle and shotgun with me and use one based on the distance of the coyote or if I use a shotty and injure one I'd rather use a pistol round rather than another load of shot....

[uglykat26]

as far as i knew you were only allowed one firearm at a time unless you had your conceled carry permit

[ohiosam]

Law says only one weapon. I understand for somethings but for other it's silly. I'll admit I have violated this law when groundhog hunting. I'll carry a rifle and a pistol and use what ever is appropriate for the shot.

[gunrac]

IMO, I'd keep my eyes open for a 22/410 or a 22/20 over an under.

[jackalope]

as far as i knew you were only allowed one firearm at a time unless you had your conceled carry permit

I have seen where it says only 1 firearm for deer. I didn't see anything about other animals or hunting in general.

[Rich44]

where exactly does it say one weapon

[noboatdave]

Some state parks, such as Alum Creek, do not allow rifles for hunting during daylight hours.

[ohiosam]

After a very quick scan of the regs I might have been wrong:o It used to say you could only hunt with one weapon, now all I could find was is says you can't have a gun while archery hunting.

[uglykat26]

i may be mistaken about the one wepon law ill recheck my regs

[uglykat26]

i just reread the rules it doesnt say you cant have two guns in the field just for achery but i did find one that cunfused me a little............................................ ............................................


.........All hunting from motor vehicles, except boats and machinery being used in farm operations is prohibited. Hunters who are physically handicapped to the extent that they cannot walk, may hunt from a stationary vehicle in a field except on a public hunting area. Hunting small game and furbearers except mink, muskrat, and beaver is lawful from a boat or powercraft. All hunting from aircraft is prohibited.



so does this mean we can deer hunt from a boat on a lake or river or is deer considerd a fur bearer and what about turkey can we hunt them from a boat cause if so i have missed alot of opportunities at nice bucks while i have been out boating

[jackalope]

i just reread the rules it doesnt say you cant have two guns in the field just for achery but i did find one that cunfused me a little............................................ ............................................


.........All hunting from motor vehicles, except boats and machinery being used in farm operations is prohibited. Hunters who are physically handicapped to the extent that they cannot walk, may hunt from a stationary vehicle in a field except on a public hunting area. Hunting small game and furbearers except mink, muskrat, and beaver is lawful from a boat or powercraft. All hunting from aircraft is prohibited.



so does this mean we can deer hunt from a boat on a lake or river or is deer considerd a fur bearer and what about turkey can we hunt them from a boat cause if so i have missed alot of opportunities at nice bucks while i have been out boating

I think you misunderstood. I'll rephrase it..

Hunting small game and furbearers except mink, muskrat, and beaver is lawful from a boat or powercraft. All hunting from aircraft is prohibited.

Coon, Possum, fox, rabbits and squirrels are legal to shoot from a boat. If I am not mistaken the boat has to be stopped..

Squirrel hunting from a boat is about the best it gets.

I believe I red somewhere you can shoot from a vehicle for yotes and groundhogs if it's your land. I'll have to check on that again.

[I_AM_LEGEND]

well one thing to consider is Ohio has open carry so you can legally carry a pistol on your hip even without a ccw, I figure that would also carry over to hunting as well and I don't see anywhere that says you can't hunt coyotes or even small game with only one firearm, I'd just like to have my pistol for if I injure a coyote I can put a follow up in him with a pistol round rather than shot and add another 30 holes or have a shotgun and rifle and use either one based on distance...

[jackalope]

I found the hunting from a vehicle thing. It wasn't in the hunting regulations but it is in HB347 that passed a while back.


(a) An officer, agents agent, or employees employee of this or any other state or the United States, or to a law enforcement officers officer, when authorized to carry or have loaded or accessible firearms in motor vehicles and acting within the scope of their the officer's, agent's, or employee's duties;
(b) Any person who is employed in this state, who is authorized to carry or have loaded or accessible firearms in motor vehicles, and who is subject to and in compliance with the requirements of section 109.801 of the Revised Code, unless the appointing authority of the person has expressly specified that the exemption provided in division (F)(1)(b) of this section does not apply to the person.
(2) Division (A) of this section does not apply to a person if all of the following circumstances apply:
(a) The person discharges a firearm from a motor vehicle at a coyote or groundhog, the discharge is not during the deer gun hunting season as set by the chief of the division of wildlife of the department of natural resources, and the discharge at the coyote or groundhog, but for the operation of this section, is lawful.
(b) The motor vehicle from which the person discharges the firearm is on real property that is located in an unincorporated area of a township and that either is zoned for agriculture or is used for agriculture.
(c) The person owns the real property described in division (F)(2)(b) of this section, is the spouse or a child of another person who owns that real property, is a tenant of another person who owns that real property, or is the spouse or a child of a tenant of another person who owns that real property.
(d) The person does not discharge the firearm in any of the following manners:
(i) While under the influence of alcohol, a drug of abuse, or alcohol and a drug of abuse;
(ii) In the direction of a street, highway, or other public or private property used by the public for vehicular traffic or parking;
(iii) At or into an occupied structure that is a permanent or temporary habitation;
(iv) In the commission of any violation of law, including, but not limited to, a felony that includes, as an essential element, purposely or knowingly causing or attempting to cause the death of or physical harm to another and that was committed by discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle.


The state says it's legal to shoot groundhogs and yotes from a vehicle as long as you own the land.... I have never verified this with the DNR Who trumps who in this situation?

[uglykat26]

I think you misunderstood. I'll rephrase it..

Hunting small game and furbearers except mink, muskrat, and beaver is lawful from a boat or powercraft. All hunting from aircraft is prohibited.

Coon, Possum, fox, rabbits and squirrels are legal to shoot from a boat. If I am not mistaken the boat has to be stopped..

Squirrel hunting from a boat is about the best it gets.

I believe I red somewhere you can shoot from a vehicle for yotes and groundhogs if it's your land. I'll have to check on that again.


lol...........duuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh i did mis read that i think i need to make an eye doc appointment before i end up sending to much money to the wrong bill company,,,,,thanks for picking that out jack:)

[I_AM_LEGEND]

I might go xerox that page out of the ORC and carry it with you if you're gonna hunt them from a vehicle but that's good to know, that good get iffy with local le, but good to know they really want us to take it to them yotes...

[Glen Campbell]

Because i needed to check if I could carry my handgun and my rifle coyote hunting and i was told I could as long as it is in plain sight

[I_AM_LEGEND]

yea the ORC doesn't say anything about carrying a handgun openly, and since it only addresses things that are illegal, since it doesn't say you can't then its legal; although you have to follow all the state regs on transporting (i.e. gun and ammo seperate... and that includes unloading mags before transporting...)

Here's a good forum about concealed and open carry in Ohio...

http://ohioccwforums.org/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=1c4d27625418fdded964b5abb5fbd20d

["J"]

Note to self unload all mags before traveling :confused:

[jackalope]

yea the ORC doesn't say anything about carrying a handgun openly, and since it only addresses things that are illegal, since it doesn't say you can't then its legal; although you have to follow all the state regs on transporting (i.e. gun and ammo seperate... and that includes unloading mags before transporting...)

Here's a good forum about concealed and open carry in Ohio...

http://ohioccwforums.org/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=1c4d27625418fdded964b5abb5fbd20d

Do you have a link to the ORC where it says you have to unload the mag Even if it is separated from the weapon.

I always put my coyote gun in the back seat of the truck with the action open and the loaded mag in the glove box. Sure would suck to have to strip that 20rd mag every time I move spots.

[huntohio101]

Note to self unload all mags before traveling :confused:
Any story behind this?

[I_AM_LEGEND]

I'll try and find it, I saw some guy had posted about a cop saying you couldn't have a loaded mag in your car, even with gun in trunk, unless you have your CHL... So if you're open carrying, which by law in OH you're allowed to with no license, you must trunk the gun or ammo, and have the other in a case or glove box, and can't have loaded mags while driving... If you're a CHL holder you don't have to worry about it tho...

[coonskinner]

IMO, I'd keep my eyes open for a 22/410 or a 22/20 over an under.

this is the perfect solution...why carry two(2) guns when you can carry one(1) gun that is two(2) guns...a shotgun an a rifle...there you go...:D

[Azzy]

Hey Legend........you from Milford Center?

[I_AM_LEGEND]

just Milford, 20 mins east of cincy...

[Azzy]

just Milford, 20 mins east of cincy...

Never heard of it. :D

Thought you might be by me. Would have made it easier for you to buy me a beer. :yikes:

[jackalope]

I'll try and find it, I saw some guy had posted about a cop saying you couldn't have a loaded mag in your car, even with gun in trunk, unless you have your CHL... So if you're open carrying, which by law in OH you're allowed to with no license, you must trunk the gun or ammo, and have the other in a case or glove box, and can't have loaded mags while driving... If you're a CHL holder you don't have to worry about it tho...

I have looked all over today and the only thing I can find on transporting firearms is below.


(C) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a motor vehicle, unless it is unloaded and is carried in one of the following ways:
(1) In a closed package, box, or case;

(2) In a compartment that can be reached only by leaving the vehicle;

(3) In plain sight and secured in a rack or holder made for the purpose;

(4) In plain sight with the action open or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or which cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.


In my case I would fall under number 4 the Action open and in plain sight... Unloaded would be removing the ammo from the firearm. A firearm per the BATF Definition is the serialized part of the weapon. The magazine is not considered a firearm and may be purchased without a federal check. A loaded magazine is not a firearm as it cannot propel the projectile so therefore does not require a serial number.

I have not found any information on the transportation of ammunition in relation to the firearm.