Yote

[Francis]

Can anyone here give some advice on what to get and advice on anything. I am looking to start hunting alot more than deer, turkey,rabbits,birds, and yotes but for the yotes I don't know what to do.

[Rick]

By all the thing you hunt for I would say you just may need some kind of caller. A hand call or you can go get your self a foxpro. You will need a lot of luck but you can't go out and buy that.
There not much to it.
A good varmint rifle, camo, caller & luck.

[TheCream]

I know I'll run the usual risk of being called a product "pimp," but oh well. If you want to start coyote hunting, you can really get going on two calls: Primos Randy Anderson Lil' Dog howler and the Verminator Tweety distress call. Really, I could coyote hunt with just the Lil' Dog and do just fine. It has two mouth pieces, one for lower pitched sounds and one for higher pitched sounds. You can make howls, whines, distress cries, pretty much everything you need with just that call. It does take practice to get good with, but it is by far my favorite call. And another kicker is that it makes an awesome turkey locator in the spring.

The Verminator Tweety I actually just bought a few weeks ago, but I am very impressed with it so far. It is an open-reed distress call, but it is very easy to use and sounds great. Open reeded calls like this are incredibly versatile.

I have a lot of calls, but those two are the staples of my arsenal. Digital callers are obviously very good and much easier to use, but they will also cost you a lot more (especially the digitals like the Foxpro's), and the older cassette-style callers are pretty hefty to carry around. You can get the two calls I mentioned for a little over $30 (Lil' Dog is around $20 and the Tweety was $11 I think).

The only other thing I will mention is be realistic with coyotes in terms of success. They are NOT easy to call in and kill, but it is an absolute blast. They make it look easy on videos, but it is not typically that easy.

PM me if you have any questions!

[ap0317ah]

Cream you big product pimper you:tsk: :nono: :D
just kidin'!!!!!!
The Verminator Tweety is a great call its helped put a many yotes in the promised land.
The LIL dog is wonderful its like the scent smoker of yote huntin'.

As for a varmint rifle I like my remington 700 sps varmint you can get them in .17rem-308 mines in .223. I like the savages but they are a little too expensive for me.
Tom

[Rick]

TheCream is right by saying they are hard to call in here in Ohio.
The videos on coyote hunt are just about all done out west where the coyote will just about come in to every thing you can throw at them. I have done a lot of coyote hunting here in Ohio but haven't had as much luck at it here in Ohio as I do when I go out to South Dakota and coyote call.
I think a lot of it here in Ohio is if they are in the area and if there food is short and they are haveing a hard time finding it.
My daughter called me tonight to tell me that coyotes killed the guys dog next door to them this morning around 9:00am, so they are really looking for food now.
My daughter lives just on the outside of Delware, Ohio on St. Rt. 23. She told me she seen 4 coyotes in her back yard about that time so she would let her dog out.

[TheCream]

Cream you big product pimper you:tsk: :nono: :D

You know me, I'm all about the pimpin'. I guess you can't talk about a product by name and not be a pimp anymore, but oh well! :coolgleamA:

Also, as far as guns go, if you are hunting in much cover where closer shots will be more likely you can't beat a good 12 gauge.

[Francis]

Ok Thanks guys! I might have one spot I want to try two open corn field that my dad say to coyotes while deer hunting there.

[Francis]

These the two calls you guys are talking about? They both have good reviews


Tweety (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0040912290667a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=The+Verminator+Tweety&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=The+Verminator+Tweety&noImage=0) HotDog (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?type=product&cmCat=Related_IPL_290667&id=0013582226803a)

[Francis]

Or how about getting this? Click Here (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0013582227091a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=coyote+calls&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=coyote+calls&noImage=0)

[TheCream]

Actually I would not recommend the HOT Dog to you, but the LIL Dog. Here is a link: https://shop.primos.com/pc-607-20-lil-dog.aspx

The Hot Dog is the long-range howler and is a lot tougher to get used to. I use it as a long-range howler, but it took me a while to learn it. The Lil Dog is a LOT easier to use!

The Verminator Tweety link you had was correct.

[Francis]

Ok thanks, should hopefully be being this sometime soon need to get my new fly-rod first but should be getting a job soon I hope. Do you need tags for fox, or coyote? I feel so dumb asking some of these questions :D

[jhammer]

I know that you need a fur taker permit for fox, but I don't believe you need anything else besides a hunting license for yotes, unless you are going during deer gun season.

[Francis]

I checked online and said I can get a youth fur permit for like 10 bucks

[jhammer]

Yeah, they're not bad....You could easily make that back, and then some with their pelts....

[Francis]

Yea thats not bad I don't plan on trying to sell them. I need to read up on the rules and regulations on this and turkey hunting. :D

[I_AM_LEGEND]

good info fellas, I'm new to coyote hunting as well and have everything I need except a call, I was looking at the Primos Randy Anderson Lil' Dog howler at Dick's and wasn't sure, it seemed really versatile but wanted to see what actual hunters around here had to say... Guess I'll have to pick one up.

[Francis]

Yea love all the info everyone helps me with here! :D Looks like I'm gonna be getting one too

[canine]

Francis, The tweety is a great little call, also another comercial open reed would be a crit-r-call , pee-wee or standard models. Coyote callin takes alot of properties to hunt. Right now I have 38 different farms to call coyotes on. One thing you don't want to do is overcall your properties. Give em at least a week before goin back to the same area and try as much as you can to setup in a different spot each time and try different sounds each time. Right now vocals are killer, they are approaching the denning season and are very territorial, this time of year through summer is when our pet dogs are killed by them for territorial reasons. That is why howling works so well this time of year, an intruding coyote will either be forced out or killed by the dominant pair.

When you choose your setups, always...always keep the downwind side open. Use a cornfield or bean field or hay, whatever it may be, keep it as open as you have available. This time of the season only the educated ones are left and you won't see many, if any, not go for the downwind side of the call.

There are 3 basics to eliciting approaches, you have to beat there ears, there eyes and there nose. Sounding like a dying animal or howling gets there ears. Next there eyes...you must sit still on stand. I have seen many eastern coyotes stay back 20 yards deep in a thicket or woods and just stare at where they heard the sound coming from. Believe me, it could have been 3 minutes since you last made a series on a call, they can and will, pinpoint where that sound came from within feet. So you need to be covered from head to toe in some sort of pattern that will breakup your human outline, and sit still. To beat his nose, you flat out have to kill it before it reaches your downwind, plain and simple.

Best of luck to ya ;)

[Francis]

Thanks Canine for the tips!

[Accu]

The randy anderson ki-yi call is a great distress call. I have all of his calls and it is by far my favorite call. I really like the hot dog but it did take me some time and practice to get used to it as well as breaking in the reed.

[whitesnake]

Ok I am new to yote hunting. I think I am going to purchase one of them calls that was mentioned earlier. As far as camo goes I have a ghillie suit and that should work great. I read where a 12 gauge would work great for close quarters which I have, but the only other two guns I have are a 10/22 which probably isn't enough,and a Remington model 4 chambered for 270 with 130 grain bullets and that is probably to much. If any of you guys were going out which one of these would you take. thanks for the advice.

[jackalope]

Ok I am new to yote hunting. I think I am going to purchase one of them calls that was mentioned earlier. As far as camo goes I have a ghillie suit and that should work great. I read where a 12 gauge would work great for close quarters which I have, but the only other two guns I have are a 10/22 which probably isn't enough,and a Remington model 4 chambered for 270 with 130 grain bullets and that is probably to much. If any of you guys were going out which one of these would you take. thanks for the advice.

Your right the 10/22 is too small. The 270 will work just fine, but will knock a big hole in them. If you could find some FMJ bullets that would be better. In close quarter I like to shoot a good 3 inch Steel #2.

[canine]

The last thing you wanna be shooting them with is FMJ's. For 1 they will ricochet and secondly they will blow so fast through a coyote, it won't even know it's been shot and will run off to never be found. I second the notion of using the 270, but would use a hollowpoint bullet of some sort. The bigger guns don't do as much damage as everybody thinks as long as you stay away from bones. A 204 will blow a helluva hole in one if shot in the spine or shoulder area also, it all is up to shot placement.

[whitesnake]

Hey thanks for the input, I appreciate it.

[Francis]

Yea I just might use the 1100 since the shots shouldn't be far at all.

[buckster]

Go with someone who hunts with dogs thats a blast,
Lot of action. We shot our 101st yesterday.

[whitesnake]

Well I went out and bought the Primos KI-YI and the Hot Dog in a package that came with a three hour video. The KI-YI doesn't sound to bad, but the Hot Dog on the other hand well lets just say I sound like a dieing elephant. I know my neighbors that live next to me in this apartment building are probably ready to shot me. I drove out in to the country and covered a 10 square mile or so with the Hot Dog. Lets say I couldn't even get a pet dog to bark. Does any body have any tips on the Hot Dog becuase the video really bragged it up. Thanks
Whitesnake

[canine]

In all honesty whitesnake, I have never heard a good thing about the "hotdog" call. I imagine it is a very tempermental call to use. Meaning, you have to hit it just perfect to get a good howl. I use a latex reed howler, far more realistic in sound and easier to use.

If I knew how, I would post a sound bite for ya to hear.

Does anyone know how, that could help?

[jackalope]

The last thing you wanna be shooting them with is FMJ's. For 1 they will ricochet and secondly they will blow so fast through a coyote, it won't even know it's been shot and will run off to never be found. I second the notion of using the 270, but would use a hollowpoint bullet of some sort. The bigger guns don't do as much damage as everybody thinks as long as you stay away from bones. A 204 will blow a helluva hole in one if shot in the spine or shoulder area also, it all is up to shot placement.

I agree a FMJ out a smaller caliber might just go right through unnoticed. But not from a 270 or 30-06. It'll still do enough damage and hit hard enough. As far as the ricochet, guess it just depends on where your huntin .

[Francis]

Well I went out and bought the Primos KI-YI and the Hot Dog in a package that came with a three hour video. The KI-YI doesn't sound to bad, but the Hot Dog on the other hand well lets just say I sound like a dieing elephant. I know my neighbors that live next to me in this apartment building are probably ready to shot me. I drove out in to the country and covered a 10 square mile or so with the Hot Dog. Lets say I couldn't even get a pet dog to bark. Does any body have any tips on the Hot Dog becuase the video really bragged it up. Thanks
Whitesnake


rofl. thats gonna sound like me