Tuning advise?

[ohioflatlander]

I need some advise. Heres the deal. I just had a local shop install a new site (3 pin Trophy Ridge) and a Wisker bisket rest. Also had him make me up some beeman 340 hunters with Blazer vanes. I asked him to adjust for center shot and paper tune. My problem is when I shot the bow (10yrds to start with sight in. I'm hitting way way low. Even with the sight maxed out at all lowest settings I'm on the target but still way low. The WB rest I have doesent really seem to have any vertical adjustments to it just horizontal.

What's my next move??

[FranciscoJ]

take it back to shop and tell them to do their job. try sighting in at further away then 10yrds maybe. could it be you're "too close"

[Milo]

I need some advise. Heres the deal. I just had a local shop install a new site (3 pin Trophy Ridge) and a Wisker bisket rest. Also had him make me up some beeman 340 hunters with Blazer vanes. I asked him to adjust for center shot and paper tune. My problem is when I shot the bow (10yrds to start with sight in. I'm hitting way way low. Even with the sight maxed out at all lowest settings I'm on the target but still way low. The WB rest I have doesent really seem to have any vertical adjustments to it just horizontal.

What's my next move??
need more info....bow poundage etc...Are you sure your not dropping your bow arm upon release? the wisker buscuit verticle adjustment is in the attachemnet arm angle. did it paper tune well? I never used pins at that close honestly.

[ohioflatlander]

The bow is a Golden Eagle Evolution (10+ years old) set at 73lbs. 30 inch draw.
The WB rest I have doesent have the adjustable arm. I know what you mean though, cause my sons is the way you discribe, but mine just has a straight arm and isnt round like my sons....His you can adjust.

I'm using good shooting form, so I can't balame that. I'm not trying to set up for a 10yrd pin, but If you shoot your bow at 10 yrs and then at 20, you really wont see much difference in Point of impact, I'm just tying to get it on paper...so to speak then set up top pin for 20yrds, middle at 30 and bottom at 40....If I ever get this figured out.

I honestly don't know how it shot through paper i just took the guys word for it. I guess i have to do it myself.

[ironman]

I am no expert bowhunter by any means but im pretty sure if you move your peep sight up your shot will be higher right? Anybody know for sure?

[bowhunter1023]

I'm no tuning expert, and what I am about to say is based on my experience and opinion. But I start with the anchor point. I feel this is the most important part of the equation. It has to be solid, consistent, and comfortable. Some like a kisser, some don't. It is just a matter of perference. Once I have that set, I move on to the peep. I make sure to line my pins up with the string and set them in the center of the housing. I then line my peep up with the sight housing. Once that is done, I shoot a few arrows to see where I am hitting. I have never had problems in helping other by going this route. I did this exactly process with my bow and I'm grouping in a coffee cup at 30 yards.

[XX78]

I'm not an expert, but I think maybe your knock point needs to be adjusted, down I believe as Im thinking about it in my head. Secondly never have someone paper tune your bow for you. The paper test should be done together, you shooting the bow, and the bowsmith adjusting the bow if you don't feel comfortable doing so. Everyone shoots a little different, so paper tuning the bow with you shooting should eliminate all doubt. Thirdly, I would suggest getting the bow back on target, before paper testing it. Lastly it is very important to get to know every part of a bow, your bow, every bow. It allows you to become less dependant on others that may or may not know what they are doing regardless of what they tell you. Its like getting golf lessons on the range from the "pro" next to you.

[ohioarcher]

I have to agree with 1023, & xx78, sounds like your anchor point is off, I always start 1/8" nock high and most of the time depending on the bow you only have to make a slight adjustment.

[ohioflatlander]

Between the answers givin here and on AT, the general concensus is that i need to lower my anchor point and raise my peep. It makes sense. Ive just alway shot the same way and it worked with my old set up. Now that I have changed some things...site and rest it wont work that way anymore.
I've been told that the peep should be 5.5 to 6 inches up the string from you nock point. Mine was only about 4.5 inches. As soon as I get some serving string I'll try it out.

Anyone ever used waxed dental floss for serving. Even for temporary??

Thanks for all the help everyone!!

[bakerboy]

Sounds like the nock point is way low, but no bow shop is going to screw that up. The sight bracket to riser or the sight to the bracket can often be bolted together in a different set of holes to give you more adjustment. Go online and download easton's tuning guide, and learn the fundamentals. Up is down and all that stuff. If you study and attempt repairs yourself a few times, you'll figure it out. IMOHO, Whiskers in general and especially with blazers which are very stiff are not good. Your arrow touching anything at all is fundamentally a mistake.

[CStan]

Could be one of several or combination of things. High anchor point could cause you to hit low (probably not your problem). Nock positioned too high on the string would cause your arrows to hit low. Rest positioned too low (i.e. below the berger button hole) would cause your arrows to hit low.

Since you said the height on your rest is not adjustable your nock is simply too high, adjust it down a little and retune.

[LongRifle]

The Whisker Bisquit rest and Blazers vanes make a fine hunting set-up. There are many thousands of bows set up this way with lotsa happy hunters.

Visually look at the arrow, from the side of the bow, as it rests in the bisquit and on the string. The string/arrow angle should be 90 degrees. Most set-ups like you have, will work very well at this setting.

As others have said, if the angle is correct, Move on to your anchor and peep settings, which may need changed. My peep is 6 in. from my loop. 5 to 6 1/2 in. will fit a lot of guys.

Dental floss will work fine for serving.

Good luck. Let us know how you fix it.

[Milo]

Between the answers givin here and on AT, the general concensus is that i need to lower my anchor point and raise my peep. It makes sense. Ive just alway shot the same way and it worked with my old set up. Now that I have changed some things...site and rest it wont work that way anymore.
I've been told that the peep should be 5.5 to 6 inches up the string from you nock point. Mine was only about 4.5 inches. As soon as I get some serving string I'll try it out.

Anyone ever used waxed dental floss for serving. Even for temporary??

Thanks for all the help everyone!!
You set your peep by drawing the bow with your eyes closed and the height is determined by where it lines up when your at anchor...there is no set distance. Dental floss is fine but it is often scented so i would hold off unless you know.

[ohioflatlander]

Thanks for all the help guys!!!

I moved my peep/anchor and installed a kisser last night. It will take some getting used to but I know it will work out now. I had to put the kisser on because I had always anchored with the nock of the arrow in the corner of my mouth, now the kisser goes there. I had my wife mark the string while I was at full draw, now the string touches my nose like it's supposed to. It feels better this way to tell you the truth.

Let you know the final results soon.

Thanks again.

[hunTer06]

the smallet little adjustment to your nock point will make a huge difference so be careful.... :whistle:

[ohioflatlander]

Got the bow out on lunch break today, got her all dialed in with field points at 20 yrds (broke a nock, I hate when that happins LOL). I'll break open a pack of Slick Tricks tomorrow and see how they shoot. If all goes well I'll be ready to move back to 30.

Thanks again for all the helpful responses.

[Arrow 1]

the smallet little adjustment to your nock point will make a huge difference so be careful.... :whistle:

Ditto That.

Cstan summed it up the best!