Score'em and Settle the Feud

[twins3b]

Hey guys this is turning into the biggest pissing contest you've ever seen. We never get good bucks on film(remember we are in the mountains of SW VA) Three of us and all three think they got the biggest. I really want you guys end this fued. Please look at the three pics and choose the one you feel will score highest and what it will score B&C gross. Don't worry about hurting feeling here. Just be honest.



http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/twins3b/BrandonsBuck.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/twins3b/MarksBuck2.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/twins3b/ICAM0017.jpg

[BuckSlayer]

Im thinking the second pic looks biggest. They are all really close in size though

[CritterGitter]

The buck in the 2nd pic is closest to the camera so I think the camera could be making it a look a little bigger than it really is. The bottom one is to dark to really get a good idea of size and score. So, I'll say the buck in the first pic looks biggest. I would guess him to end up as a nice 150" buck. I would shoot him for sure if given the chance!

Kyle

[Buckman]

Based on the pictures, if I had to make a shot decision I would chose the first buck. I would certainly say in the 140's would be a reasonalbe estimate. I think getting past 150" with 8 points might be asking a little much but I hope you get him and I hope I am wrong.

The spreads on buck 1 and 2 seem pretty similar outside the ears. The combined lengths of one and 2 would be similar. Buck 3's picture is just too dark IMO to make a judgement other than the hight of the antlers above the ears. But all in all I would have to say all 3 are pretty close. The one thing to note on Buck 2 is the few extra kickers that would help in green scoring. Very nice animals though.

[OHBOW76]

1ST pic is the biggest, but will have an obvious side to side deduction with the difference in his brow tines,and side to side differences. I would say 150 gross. 2nd pic looks like a very symmetrical 130-140 deer, and the 3rd although looks to be large and symmetrical doesnt seem to have much for brow tines but hard to tell.

If you wanted to shoot the largest shoot the first, if you wnated to shoot the highest net score then the second or the third.

[oxmos]

I would also have to go with the first buck. Looks to be in the 130-140 range gross or close to it.

[hunter333]

Get a better 3rd picture and then I'll decide.

[bowtech_buster]

All Those Deer Are 120 10 130 Max. I Dont Know Wich Is The Biggest Though They Are Too Close To Call

[So. Ohio Outfitters]

I'd definitely have to say the first pic....based on the fact that he carries good mass throughout, and he's got some decent width....the second pic looks good and he has decent mass around his bases....but he has short g3's, and his over tine length and tine mass is lacking....and the 3rd buck looks like he has poor g3's as well.....if it wasn't for the g3's I'd say the 3rd pic would have it...but overall ....number 1

[Monroe]

I would say they all look similar - and that buck #1 may have a few inches over #3, but, I think you guys are way over shooting the scores. I would guess that #1 would have to grow another 7 inches of antler before he could scratch the P&Y record books and 22" before he came close to OBB.

[bowtech_buster]

yea those deer are definatley great deer but none score very well

[oxmos]

I think you may very well be right Monroe. After looking at the pictures some more I think we may have over-rated them. Looks like the shorter brow tine on #1 might be 3" with other tines ranging from 5-8". Can't really tell about #3 without more pictures, but it looks like 2" brow tines, 6-7" G2's and 4-5" G2's. My brother shot a deer very much like this one a few years ago that gross scored around 112. I still think #1 has the best gross score.

[OHBOW76]

A few comments

1) A deer only needs to score 120" to make P&Y, so I am not sure that Monroe statement about needing another 7" to scratch P&Y is accurate, based on that every one of the deer shown woudl make P&Y.The first deer at least makes 120", but I would guess 130-140", 150" would be a reach but I did say gross. A high rack in general will outscore a wide rack most of the time, AND all three of these deer have high racks!! Look at the record books and most deer near the top dont have exceptional spreads.

2) Its realtively easy to estimate how long the tines are, just compare to the deers ear which on average are about 5" long.

3) Most importantly the question was in reference to GROSS score! I agree none of the deer will NET over 130-140".

[bowtech_buster]

i dont think they will gross that either the first buck wich all of you say is the biggest probably aint p&y look how short his tines are on his left side they are barley 5 inches..

[Frank in the Laurel]

I'll bet he's not above 120 and that might even be a stretch..come on guys there's no way he's near 150, no way...as a matter of fact only the last one even might come close only, the rest there's no way...

[bowtech_buster]

i did get one thing from this thread look at the times the deer are moving all of the daylight pics in all the threads of bucks are between 10 am and a little after noon

[Monroe]

I hate to keep this argument going without a dead deer to put the tape on - but that buck definately won't hit 120/125 net.

Last I saw, p&y was still 125:

http://www.pope-young.org/minscores.asp

Where did the 120 come from?

Monroe

[CritterGitter]

I must be going blind. I thought the 1st buck was a 10 pt. As an 8 pt I would guess he may reach a gross score of 120 to 130. Clearly he has more than 5" on the left side. Anyway, they are all nice bucks and really close in score.

Kyle

[bowtech_buster]

i diddnt say just 5 on the left i said each tine is not but 5 inches

[bowhunter1023]

The 1st buck won't score well because he doesn't match up. The 2nd buck is nice, but I don't think he has was it takes either. IMO the buck in the last picture is the biggest. I think he has the most length and is right there with his mass. He looks to match up pretty close too. I think 150" is a little high because that makes for a monster 8 and he is big but not a monster. I would guess closer to 140". But they are all shooters in my book.

[CritterGitter]

Match up? Doesn't that pertain to "net" score. I believe the guy in the original post asked about total "gross" score, but I could have seen that wrong too. Again, I am goin blind in my old age. he heh.

Darn right about it that they are all nice shooters for sure!

Kyle

[Fish-n-Fool]

I have to agree with the guys that say these bucks have been grossly overestimated by many of you. I would field score buck #1 @ 115 gross - 150 inches; are you guys even serious?:confused:

A 150 inch 8 pointer is a really big 8 point buck; none of tese are even close.
It is too hard to tell from these pics which is the largest, but in my opinion none of those bucks will make P&Y and B&C should not even enter the discussion.

[OhioHunter88]

I hate to keep this argument going without a dead deer to put the tape on - but that buck definately won't hit 120/125 net.

Last I saw, p&y was still 125:

http://www.pope-young.org/minscores.asp

Where did the 120 come from?

Monroe
I was about to say something so im glad someone else did...

[bowtech_buster]

The one thing to note on Buck 2 is the few extra kickers that would help in green scoring. Very nice animals though.[/quote] BUCKMAN



a green score is just a score before the 60 day drying period

[OHBOW76]

I dont know where the 120 came form either?????:coco: :confused: :cheeky-smiley-022:

[KeithCar23]

I agree with the few of you saying a lot of people are way over-rating these deer. I know from experience what pics can do. Three years ago I had many trail cam pics of what appeared to be a very nice 8-point. I was estimating this deer to be around 135". Pics made it appear as its inside spread was wider than its ears, and tines were around 7" (G-3) and 9" (G-2) respectively. I had already made my mind up that if I saw this buck I was going to shoot it. Well it came flying in to my stand, stopped at 30 yds and I knew it was him so I didn't hesitate. Double-lunged him and he ran 50 yds and collapsed. Ever heard of the term "Ground Shrinkage?" This deer topped out at 115" I may very well be wrong, but in my opinion none of these deer go over 125"

[OHBOW76]

I only have a few comments, one shoot one of those damm deer and measure it that wills ettle all arguments, and two just liek pictures can be misleadign so can racks. I have seen racks side by side before that look so different in makeup and size that its unbelievable when they end up scoring very close to each other. I have seen it a happen many times.

[TheCream]

Hard for me to say which is bigger, the 1st or the 3rd. In my humble opinion, the second photo is the smallest of the 3 for sure. Score-wise, they will really surprise you once the velvet comes off. I agree that 120 would be about tops for the 1st or 3rd, but a better angle of the 3rd buck would be nice. Hard to judge just how big he is with the side photo.

All that being said, they are all good looking deer. Not sure what you have in that area as your average-size buck, but if those bucks make it another year they will be very solid. I'd stop arguing and be happy you've got some good deer! :D

[Lucky]

The fact is Everybody knows they would shoot that deer if it walked by their stand. So what is the big deal, we for sure know the 1st pic is probably the largest. We also know it's not 150, give me a break. I would say it is at least P&Y, with out a doubt. The best solution here is to get an official scorer to give us their opinion. MREX, can you help us out here?

[plainshunter]

every deer in these pictures are definitely not over 115. Just measure them out based upon the ear length. # 1 and 2 are really close, but # 3 it is hard to tell with the bad picture, but i believe that he is the smallest with those short G-3's.

Some of you guys must not have ever killed a 150 gross scoring whitetail.:tsk:

[Lucky]

I sure have, have you? I think quite a few on here have as a matter a fact. No offense, but that's a strong statement for your very first post.

[twins3b]

Hey lucky you can calm down. I think that's one of my buddies from pic number two trying to sneak one in on me. The Pic 3 was mine so he's just screwing with me. He's got some good deer on the wall. From Ohio, Kansas, Illinois, Kentucky, but he hasn't killed the biggest of our group in Virginia. That honor goest to Pastor DKK. To bad Richardo.

[Lucky]

My bad, just trying to take up for people on here that's all.

[It's Not A Passion..]

I'd say the biggest one is pushing 130.

[BuckSlayer]

The second one is still the biggest. ;)

[Lucky]

That's what I think too, pic two looks the biggest, but it also has the best close up profile outof all of them. All three are good deer.

[cemcgee8]

The second pic is the most clear
all nice ones.

[OLDHAT]

Field judging on here sucks!

1st deer may make 125", after deductions, 117-120. Oh and he's the best one as far as score.

Have any of you guys ever seen a 150" 8 pt?....that's world class fellas, they are few and far in between. Give these 3 deer 2 more seasons and potentially 1 of them could see 150".

I've personally only seen 1 8pt on my trail cams or in the woods that would make 150" and if you didn't know he was an 8 and seen him from 100 yards, you'd think he was a booner!

Oh: Looks like this thread has left you right where you started....still debating!

Oldhat