Got my '06 mount back today!

[buckstar25]

Here is my 2006 shotgun buck, I shot him on Sunday of the first season. I lost a giant 11 point (which we found on Sat.). I didn't realize how much mass this 8 point had until I walked up on him. Not a Ohio giant but I am pleased with him and the mount. My wall is filling up, my avatar pic is my first 140" deer. What do you guys think this 8 will score? If I had to guess I would say @ 120-130. thanks for taking a look!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w261/gotwipers/100_0375.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w261/gotwipers/100_0374.jpg
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[wallydog1]

Congrats Buckstar25,
They don't have to be Giants to be nice.As far as score Don't know I don't score my own.

[buckstar25]

Thanks wally, I tried measuring it myself, but didn't have time to finish. The base are 5 3/4" and 6" I just don't think it will make it to OBB. The mount is my main concern though, I put a post on before about how chitty my $465.00 10 point turned out.:irked:

[wallydog1]

The mount Looks pretty good to me.I know what you mean tho,I have a couple of mounts not totally happy with,but live and learn.

[buckstar25]

yep, I was referred to him by a work friend...........live and learn.:)

[Hunter10]

That is a great deer congrats.

[hunter333]

Nice deer

[Liv4Trappin]

Very nice Buck, I would guess him around 125.
Good looking mount as well.

Mike

[OHBOW76]

Nice deer, so what came of the giant 11 point you shot, lost, and then found???

[BuckSlayer]

Very nice deer. A trophy buck for sure.

[buckstar25]

Nice deer, so what came of the giant 11 point you shot, lost, and then found???

Here is a quick version of the 11 point. io shot at the buck opening day of gun season. He came in with a doe, at the first shot he stopped dead in his tracks. I came down on him and touched another one off and he looked lkek he was hit.Panic set in I think and I marked him going into my river bottoms. I can honestly and regretfully admit I F'd up on marking the deer when I shot, call it what you will but I could not find blood, hair nothing, I walked along the same line I saw him run and found nothing. I am sure it was buck fever, and adrenalin, panic also. I was afraid to start trailing him for fear I would bump him into another hunter. Needless to say I had a hard time hunting the rest of the week, I finally went back out on sunday of the first season and shot this 8 point. I was driving out my river bottoms on the second weekend when I found the buck, ironically we walked by him at least 3 different times. He had crawled up under a multiflora rose bush and died. I would say we were within 40 yards of him all 3 times. He was dinner for the yotes and opossum......here are some pics of the rack.


http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w261/gotwipers/100_0355.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w261/gotwipers/100_0354-1.jpg

[the dude]

pretty sure you cant have that buck with out a tag and to post it on here is not very smart.

[buckstar25]

If the game warden in my county tells me that he is too busy to come to my property then I guess I did what I had to do. I know I am probably the only one in the state who has done this. Have you stopped and picked up a rack on the side of the road? If you did that is considered poaching......I contacted my county's official and was told he would get to me when he could. I never heard anything back. If I shot the deer illegally I would not be dumb enough to post it on the internet LOL. Back to road poaching, if you have seen anyone cutting a rack off or are part of it then you are considered to be a poacher. Smart has nothing to do with the post, I was asked a question and I have no problem telling the story and showing the rack or picture to anyone. Thanks for the concern though dude.....:)

[deerhunt45]

Smart has nothing to do with the post, I was asked a question and I have no problem telling the story and showing the rack or picture to anyone. Thanks for the concern though dude.....:)

You have to realize who you just told your story and showed your pic to...how many access this site daily only to monitor posts? Your story is bound to be scrutinized. I certainly hope if things are as you say, your post doesn't cause you any grief.

I'm not questioning your story nor posting to stir the pot, just some friendly advice. I personally wouldn't have posted the pic of an untagged, sawed off rack. Period. You are bound to catch some flack for it. Believe me, I've been around here long enough to know.

[the dude]

thats my point exactly. every rack i have ever had, has a tag on it or a receipt for it. call any sheriff or state hwy patrolman (if you know any) and get a receipt for it. because whether or not you found the deer later, you killed it and to have a deer without a tag is not smart especially posted here for the world to see. i believe you, but thats not the point. you can't prove it. understand?

[buckstar25]

You have to realize who you just told your story and showed your pic to...how many access this site daily only to monitor posts? Your story is bound to be scrutinized. I certainly hope if things are as you say, your post doesn't cause you any grief.

I'm not questioning your story nor posting to stir the pot, just some friendly advice. I personally wouldn't have posted the pic of an untagged, sawed off rack. Period. You are bound to catch some flack for it. Believe me, I've been around here long enough to know.

I do realize and accept the fact that there are going to be people who scrutinize me for it, but I bet ya any one of them would have done the same thing. I don't need to defend myself nor do I want to, again I was asked a question and I told the story....with pictures. I am not proud that this deer lie in the field dead, nor am I proud of the fact that I choked on pulling the trigger. It is something I will relive every opening day for as long as I hunt. Self righteous people need not respond, if you haven't lost a deer ever, that is awesome, but as many of us know it is part of hunting. We try to avoid it at all costs but it happens, last year it happened to me. What kind of grief are you talking about deerhunter? :confused:

[buckstar25]

thats my point exactly. every rack i have ever had, has a tag on it or a receipt for it. call any sheriff or state hwy patrolman (if you know any) and get a receipt for it. because whether or not you found the deer later, you killed it and to have a deer without a tag is not smart especially posted here for the world to see. i believe you, but thats not the point. you can't prove it. understand?


I too understand you dude, but correct me if I am wrong. You are telling me to call a buddy and get a tag for the deer? I have friends in all branches of civil service. Why would it be O.K. in your eyes if I did this, almost a full year after the fact? I am not a child sir/mam I fully "understand" what the consequences would be if I had shot this deer illegally and turned around and posted it. I appreciate your belief in my "story" but I wasn't asking you to believe me.:irked:

[the dude]

ok, i am done with this conversation as it seems to me that you don't get it. you killed two bucks that year and you have two bucks in your possesion. that are not both tagged. thats illegal. period. you can't prove any different that you didn't shoot them both and simply not check one of them in. now if you think it is smart to post that on here (which is my point) then good for you. in fact, if you feel so okay with it why don't you send a copy of this thread to the ODNR? and see what they think. i know you didn't poach them but there is no gray area in the law.

[XX78]

Buckstar25,

Pull out what you can from these posts and leave the rest in the trash. I agree many people including myself would have done the same as you, and I commend you for telling the story. What is the worst that could happen from this situation, an officer coming to your house, and accusing you of poaching. Where is the proof of the crime, the forensic, and/or eyewitness evidence? I'd bet the most he could do is write you a ticket for possessing a rack without a tag, confiscate it, and be on his way. I am sure you are already aware of this.

I found a dead deer 2 years ago while shed hunting behind my old apartment complex that got hit by a car. I cut off the rack and posted about it here. Nobody had a negative thing to say about it then. I wonder what the difference is?



Oh yeah while I am confessing, every day I do 74 in the 65 zone on my way to work

[XX78]

ok, i am done with this conversation as it seems to me that you don't get it. you killed two bucks that year and you have two bucks in your possesion. that are not both tagged. thats illegal. period. you can't prove any different that you didn't shoot them both and simply not check one of them in. now if you think it is smart to post that on here (which is my point) then good for you. in fact, if you feel so okay with it why don't you send a copy of this thread to the ODNR? and see what they think. i know you didn't poach them but there is no gray area in the law.


Why don't you pull over and tell the next state trooper you see your actual speed that you were traveling, or tell him that you left your buddy's party on the fourth of July with maybe a little too much beer in your system.

[bowtech_buster]

this is what will happen if your ever confronted by a gamewarden. he will take the rack and charge you with possesion of a deer without a tag could be up to a 500.00 fine maximum and 1 year probation. ITS THE LAW MY GRANdPA'S A GAMEWARDEN i know these things..so if your worried get rid of the rack.if not then keep it

[buckstar25]

ok, i am done with this conversation as it seems to me that you don't get it. you killed two bucks that year and you have two bucks in your possesion. that are not both tagged. thats illegal. period. you can't prove any different that you didn't shoot them both and simply not check one of them in. now if you think it is smart to post that on here (which is my point) then good for you. in fact, if you feel so okay with it why don't you send a copy of this thread to the ODNR? and see what they think. i know you didn't poach them but there is no gray area in the law.

If you read my post, you will have learned that I did contact my county's game warden and he told me he would get to me when he had time. Is that a "gray area"? I take it as it is, there are lots of gray areas in the laws. Dude you never answered my questions to you, I answered yours and addressed yours honestly and respectfully. Here is another example, I along with 5 other witnesses watched a man deliberately drive his 4-wheeler into a thicket and shoot a monster buck (the Sunday before gun season) I did my part by calling the tip-line, I had all information including the camp that the guys were staying at......the guys never got questioned and continued to shoot 5 more deer illegally. Is this a gray area? We have 1 official per county, he can only do so much. This I understand, and that is why I called immediately after we found the deer to see what I needed to do. Technically I am still waiting on my tag.

[buckstar25]

Buckstar25,

Pull out what you can from these posts and leave the rest in the trash. I agree many people including myself would have done the same as you, and I commend you for telling the story. What is the worst that could happen from this situation, an officer coming to your house, and accusing you of poaching. Where is the proof of the crime, the forensic, and/or eyewitness evidence? I'd bet the most he could do is write you a ticket for possessing a rack without a tag, confiscate it, and be on his way. I am sure you are already aware of this.

I found a dead deer 2 years ago while shed hunting behind my old apartment complex that got hit by a car. I cut off the rack and posted about it here. Nobody had a negative thing to say about it then. I wonder what the difference is?



Oh yeah while I am confessing, every day I do 74 in the 65 zone on my way to work

:bouncy: That is my point exactly, people don't think of cutting a rack off of a roadkill as illegal. But the law clearly states that it is, if you cut it off and walk away.

[buckstar25]

this is what will happen if your ever confronted by a gamewarden. he will take the rack and charge you with possesion of a deer without a tag could be up to a 500.00 fine maximum and 1 year probation. ITS THE LAW MY GRANdPA'S A GAMEWARDEN i know these things..so if your worried get rid of the rack.if not then keep it

I contacted my local warden about this........he is aware of what happened and was obviously not too concerned with it. I am sure your grandfather will tell you how busy they get, he has to eliminate the obvious and try and get to as many violations and calls that he can. He is only one person covering one county, if he has answered every call for every incident then I commend him. How can I be fined and ticketed if I contacted the Game Warden?

[buckstar25]

Why don't you pull over and tell the next state trooper you see your actual speed that you were traveling, or tell him that you left your buddy's party on the fourth of July with maybe a little too much beer in your system.


:yikes::bouncy::bouncy::yikes:

[bowtech_buster]

i dont want to make a big deal about it but i was just telling you what i know.....so i hope everything goes ok i'm done on this topic...

[OHBOW76]

Buckstar,

I wasnt trying to open a big can of worms or stir up controversy, but if theres any gray area you have created it by your own actions. I asked the question concerning the eleven pointer and got the answer I suspected.

Here is how I feel you did wrong and got yourself in this predicament to begin with. First off if you thought you had already shot a buck then why go out and shoot another? I could see if you went out and shot a doe, but I know some very responsible sportsman who after not finding the buck they arrowed consider themselves done for the year on antlered deer. You shoot a buck your done as far as I concerned assuming you think it was mortally wounded. I mean if your going to be back out there keep looking, but in the mean time dont continue to target antlered deer. This way if you do find your buck you could legally tag it, sure it wouldnt be edible but things happen and I am sure you had more then one tag anyway so what you have one less deer to eat, but at least you have a legally tagged set of antlers in your posession.

As far as the law is concerned your guilty of having untagged animal parts in your possesion......its illegal to do so by the letter of the law. I know you called the game warden and you were right to do so, but as busy as they are you shouldnt have given up, I am sure the warden had more important things to do during gun season then come out and issue you a tag for the antlers. You should have kept calling and trying to get in touch with him/her, if you wanted the antlers bad enough you would have. By doing what you did you have opend a huge can of speculation and doubt....adn it raises questions in wardesn heads like, Did the guy shoot a buck but then thought he could shoot a bigger one?, etc.

[buckstar25]

Good point there OHBOW76, you are right in the fact that I created the "contoversy", I admit that much. As far as the judgement of irresponsibility.....I will take that one on the chin for the sake of argument. I think you did want to bring some controversy into the thread or you wouldn't have asked, you got my side of the story and people disagreed with it. I am not asking anyone to understand what I did, or to justify what I did. Are you saying to wound a doe is O.K.? If I did see any sign of a hit and lost the deer I would have definitely been done hunting period. I was sick about blowing the shot of a lifetime, not losing the buck. I can get over the bad shot.

My second concern is that you did not read my post very well. I said I could not find blood nor hair anywhere around where I shot at the buck. I believe I stated that I found the buck in the second season. I exhausted the remaining 3 days of hunting I had (in the first season) to that specific deer, I along with friends and family looked for any sign of a hit. I would ask you to re-read the post with the pictures of the 11 point. I could not believe that I missed the deer, but after 3 days of looking and coming up empty handed I was sure it was a miss. I appreciate the honesty and input of all the guys...right or wrong it is what it is. I can't change what happened I can only learn from the mistakes I made and improve on them.

[OHBOW76]

Buckstar25,

A few comments, first off your right, for whatever reason I had thought you did say there was sign of a hit, I stand corrected. Second, your wrong I DID NOT BRING UP the eleven pointer to stir up controversy. In fact your the one you posted a pic of a nice eight pointer and included the comment not the 11 pointer I shot, lost, and then found. I was simply trying to figure out how you bagged two bucks in a season. Third, I was not insinuating that its okay to wound a doe, but I stated that point because in Ohio you can take more then one doe a season, unlike bucks which are limited to one per person per season. I figured most peopel including yourself would have multiple tags so if you happedned to abg another deer as long as it was a doe you would at least have a tag for it. Unliek the set of antlers in your posession.

[buckstar25]

Buckstar25,
Unliek the set of antlers in your posession.

Nice, not trying to stir the pot huh? I see your side too OHBOW, I understand where you are coming from. I posted the story knowing that I was going to take a beating. You only know what i told you and I expect you would be skeptical,along with everyone else. That is why I told my side of the, take it however you want; it is what it is.

[BuckSlayer]

I would just call the local GW and ask for a tag for a buck you found. They usually dont fine guys trying to do the right thing.

[BuckSmacker69]

I would just eat the antlers! I know what happened, let'em talk!