turkeys are stupid

[george tinkham]

at least the 22'190 kilt last year...some indians felt that turkeys were so stupid they refused to eat them.there are 220'000 turkeys out there,many mature birds.you all should git one

[Turkeyfoot]

Your right George, turkeys are'nt generally considered a very smart bird! Young jakes especially and some two year olds tend to do some stupid things, hence they end up in the pot!

On the other hand, a mature gobbler of 4-5 yrs relies on mostly instinct, I think, and can be conditioned very easily to avoid human contact and constant calling. They can be difficult to call in by the 3rd week of season, especially on public land where pressure tends to silence them, make them change roosting areas, and they'll sneak in like a cat without uttering a sound!

Agressive calling many times will not work on these birds and a more suttle approach is needed. As mor and more hens go to the nest, the big gobblers are basically loners and are not easy but can be had with softer and more sporadic calling. The #1 mistake most make is over calling and calling to loud, IMHO:eek: .......TF

[Caribou Dreamer2]

I hope i get one of those stupid one to come in to my calls:D

[Ðe§perado™]

LOL...Me too!

[shrivl]

as long as stupid does not stop 50 yards away from the tree I am sitting against. If he does I am thinking of using other words than stupid or smart to discribe him.

[Thunderflight]

Turkey's are pretty dumb, but they sure are wary....

TF

[Beau Martin]

when ever I went I must have ran into all the smart ones cause I have as yet to take one. Last time I went had one about 50 yrds and hug up talked all day to me but wouldn't move any closer. It is frusterating. but still enjoy it. (guess im the stupid one lol)

[Ðe§perado™]

I have them hang up and I try to change up on my calls. But some days they just won't come in.

[carpwarrior]

hell , i would be happy just to c a freaken bird, with my gun in hand, it never fails i sscrew it up one way or the other

[Ðe§perado™]

Once you learn about them you can find them, but never think you always have the answers to getting them close.

[C.C.]

if turkeys are stupid then everyone that thinks that way is the dumbest animal on the earth:mad:

[Ðe§perado™]

lol..:D

[george tinkham]

i guess many of us are stupider then the turk

[carpwarrior]

gobble gobble:p

[Q2XL]

i sure hope your right about them birds cause am goin to try and et one with the bow this year

[Turkeyfoot]

When they hang up, if terrain and conditions permit, try backing off and circling the bird 90*-180*. Then re-set and call again just enough to give him direction then shut up and let him look for you. Nothing works in every situation guys but you gotta be flexible;) Very soft purrs and clucks often are irresistable!...TF

[Q2XL]

thanks for the tip

[george tinkham]

well those fakey lookin decoys fool em so bad they try an breed em

[Turkeyfoot]

Thinking about getting one of those battery operated " motion hens" for close in bowhunting. Ought to be a real attention getter I would think, enabling me to draw that recurve without being seen. Tough to do as I choose or make blinds from natural surroundings to fit each set-up......TF

[chopiq]

Kinda like them blow up dolls for men......lol

[Thunderflight]

Turkeys aren't the smartest of animals, hence the slandering term "you turkey"...:)

Turkey's are just really wary and see and hear very good.

I'm not the smartest person either....:)

Thunderflight

[george tinkham]

and its very appropriate for the country named after our birdbrain frend...

[Thunderflight]

The country of Turkey is AWESOME!!!!!

In fact it's my third favorite country. The people are really friendly and best of all everything is cheap....:)

Austrailia is number two.

Scottland is number one.

TF

[george tinkham]

i have never been there but close

[Ðe§perado™]

They have turkeys in Scottland?

[Caribou Dreamer2]

I hope one of those stupid birds is getting even more dumber

[Thunderflight]

Yes they do have turkey's in Scottland.

They have them at the grocery store.....:)

TF

[george tinkham]

heh heh heh

[Ðe§perado™]

OK, LOL...:D :D :D

[Beau Martin]

does that meen that they were kilts instead oe fantails?:D :D

[Ðe§perado™]

Why sure!! LOL:D

[shrivl]

well stupid got me again this morning. I had a bird gobbling all morning down here in Ga. He shut up around 10 am so I thought I'd go home. Get in the truck to drive out and across the camp roads run stupid long beard, and I think I saw him smiling at me.

[Ðe§perado™]

I have had that happen and it just burns you up.;)

[george tinkham]

aoe fantails...

[Beau Martin]

he mostlikly was. just burs your cookies don't it. Deer have done it to me as well. it bites

[george tinkham]

stupis is as stupid does...heh heh heh

[Ðe§perado™]

Thats true george. Those birds can make you do things you normally won't do and you will get caught by the birds everytime...LOL

[shrivl]

well they got me again today! I sure hope the birds are gobbling good up North. Stupid birds taste good though.

[Turkeyfoot]

I love it when guys leave the woods at 10:00am here in Ohio! Have shot several late in the day up to the noon quitin time:D

[george tinkham]

why would anybuddy leave the woods at 10 when its bad enough you can only hunt to 12

[Farmbear]

I sure hope a couple of the stupud ones come my way I have somthing for them. ;)

[zfish]

I normally have one of the best places around to turkey hunt.. Until this year I have only done fall hunting and Ive been doing some scouting so I can bring Desperado out to my place and show him a good time. The wierd thing is I havent seen any.. There is even a field that I normally see them in every single day either to or from work and they havent been there for about a month. I dont know what the deal is. Is there anyone here that knows something I Dont?

[Turkeyfoot]

George....A lot of guys get frustrated,I think, if they can't get a bird first thing off the roost and are gone as early as 9-10 am! Just because a bird quits gobbling at 9, does'nt mean he can't be started again at 11 and called in.

An old friend that got me started in this game told me long ago that there are 3 things that you gotta learn to kill turkeys consistanly....#1 patience...#2 patience.....#3 patience. Over the years, I have found that advice to be true;)

When a bird shuts up, listen and sit quietly, don't move for at least half an hour. You may be surprised to here footsteps or slight noises that may indicate he's slowly sneaking in on you. Hit a crow call every now and then, he may respond and give away his position! If he's moved away or following hens, you might be able to quietly get ahead of them and call the hens with the gobbler strutting close behind right into your lap.

If a bird starts gobblind on his own and on the move, get to him quick as you can(before someone else does) He is lonely and looking for company. Time to feed him some #5's for lunch:D

Just a few things to think about. Be patient and by all means be FLEXIBLE.....it can make a big difference in sucsess.....TF

[Turkeyfoot]

zfish......Check your field during or immediately after a good rain to see if they are still in the area . possibly the next property owner is feedin em' cracked corn to draw them to his hunting area, seems to be the in thing now a days!.....TF

[george tinkham]

well it won't be long to see who the smartest is...hunter or turk.

[Turkeyfoot]

Right on George......Hope this nasty cold front is thru by the weekend. Even though it was rainy, cold, and windy this morning,I heard two gobblers with what sounded like 4 or 5 hens at flydown this morning! I hate wind as it tends to shut em up early. Hopefully Mon. will bring stable conditions for Oh. hunters to enjoy.......TF

[Ðe§perado™]

True enough george.

[shrivl]

The forecast for opening day looks good for Guernsey county.

[lureboy98]

I think the weather should be good for opening day...I won't be out until opening weekend but I'll try to make the best of it!

[george tinkham]

good luck even to you college grads,ahhhhhhhhaha

[coonskinner]

at least the 22'190 kilt last year...some indians felt that turkeys were so stupid they refused to eat them.there are 220'000 turkeys out there,many mature birds.you all should git one

here yuh go rex...:D

[everything hunter]

hmmm since turks are just giant chickens, and i have chickens, i should closely study and become aquainted with the chickens, enablin me to be in teh presence of turks a lot closer and longer. haha thats dumb but i was bored

[Dissident]

Some days in the turkey woods, when all the stars allign just right, bagging one will seem like the easiest thing, but more often than not you'll be leaving the woods shaking your head.

[coonskinner]

Some days in the turkey woods, when all the stars allign just right, bagging one will seem like the easiest thing, but more often than not you'll be leaving the woods shaking your head.

like this...:nono:

[Freedomrules3]

Some days in the turkey woods, when all the stars allign just right, bagging one will seem like the easiest thing, but more often than not you'll be leaving the woods shaking your head.

thats so true.

[coonskinner]

well me an geezer know that one turk sure knows when it 12 oclock...:mischeif:

[geezer II]

well me an geezer know that one turk sure knows when it 12 oclock...:mischeif:

Yea that ole bugger must of had an alarm clock or something - :irked:

[coonskinner]

Yea that ole bugger must of had an alarm clock or something - :irked:

sooo mike rex...xplain that one...the turk sounded off at 12 one day and very close on at least one other day...an just below our camp...maybe yuh wanna try that one:D an you might have heard the sayin..."a vocal turk is a dead turk"...well this is one thing i think they can learn...at least the ones on the wayne...he's goin out again tuhday and hopes tuh find one of those clocks...:mischeif:

[mullskinner]

Some days in the turkey woods, when all the stars allign just right, bagging one will seem like the easiest thing, but more often than not you'll be leaving the woods shaking your head.

:nono: been there ...:rolleyes: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

[coonskinner]

:nono: been there ...:rolleyes: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

mornin mully...on subject,a pal jus called from athens,sed he was out good an early yesterday up aroun the area we hunt...sed he heard nothin all mornin but seen a few an some deer an other animals but precisely(his word,he uses it a lot")at 12 he heard what sounded like alarm clocks going off all over the place...he heard a few immediate gobbles but most were heard gobblin bout 12:30-1 ...so he decided to stay the day as the turks continued tuh gobble their heads off...:D

[deerhunt45]

I wonder if they adjust for DST ;) :cheeky-smiley-022: :p :dizzy:

[strut]

my favorite country is the U.S.A...........

[coonskinner]

I wonder if they adjust for DST ;) :cheeky-smiley-022: :p :dizzy:


oh man i gotta adjust...:mischeif:

[razor]

Things I have witnessed to back my theory of how stupid turks are.

Call in 3 (2 year olds I'd say) shoot 1 and the other 2 proceed to beat up on the dead one:rolleyes:

Call a hen off the roost last year and she comes in and beats our decoy to pieces for 5 minutes or better while my son and I are 15 feet away laughing out loud, she looks at us and walks away:coco:

My sons hunt last year, called in a mature Tom during youth season, comes across the hayfield and literally rubs back and forth on our hen decoy, strutting the whole time, couldn't cutt him out of strut, had to just shoot him.:16suspect1:

Just yesterday afternoon, coming home from town seen a lone bird 250 yardsout in a cut corn field. Knew from the size and how dark it was it was a male, told my son to give a couple voice yelps to see it's reaction, by the way we are still in the truck, parked in the middle of this little back road. He yelps a few times and the turkey's reaction was a gobble, then he starts comin towards us breaking into full strut. I laugh and tell him to yelp a couple more times, he does, then the bird gobbles again and a second later another bird comes running out of the woods behind him flies past him on a dead run and they both end up running to within 60 yards of the truck.:dizzy: Both go into strut and gobble a few more times. After watching these 2 for a few a car finally comes up behind us and we had to move on.:16suspect1:

I also enjoy sittin in a deer stand and watching a flock try and cross a busy road, entertaining none the less:mischeif:

So anyone else got any good stories of turkey encounters?

I will say though, they are good eating:biggrin:

[coonskinner]

good story...:D

[razor]

Thanks coonskinner, it was rather interesting:D

Just cause I think they are stupid doesn't meen there not a blast to hunt, cause I wouldn't miss turk season for nothing.

[Kent Dorfman]

Personally, I think the guys that think turkeys are real smart just don’t understand turkeys or why they will or will not come to a call.

A henned up gobbler will humble most while a lonely gobbler can make anybody look good. It is just that simple.

[coonskinner]

Personally, I think the guys that think turkeys are real smart just don’t understand turkeys or why they will or will not come to a call.

A henned up gobbler will humble most while a lonely gobbler can make anybody look good. It is just that simple.

i will remember this...:mischeif:

[Hosey]

If the Indians felt the turkeys were so dumb they wouldn't eat them, why did both the indians and turkeys eat dry grains to survive the winter? I rather eat the "dumb birds" instead. Maybe dumb is in the perspective.

[everything hunter]

yea i believe razor on them stories, they made me chucke. :D but i have never witnessed turks doin dumb stuff like that, theyre all smart n stuff round me:dizzy: . And no matter how good you sound on a call like Kent Dorfman said a henny tom wont come to ya. trust me ive found that out:irked: Its a shame the lonely one last year that ran in like mad busted me because of my gun shinin in the sun just outta range.

[Big H]

Personally, I think the guys that think turkeys are real smart just don’t understand turkeys or why they will or will not come to a call.

A henned up gobbler will humble most while a lonely gobbler can make anybody look good. It is just that simple.

Very true, they are "just being turkeys". Imagine if as soon as you came out of the egg (actually before), that every predator in the area (hawks, foxes, coyotes, dogs, cats) was trying to eat you. You would become very skittish, which is what turkeys are, not smart. They are only trying to survive.

[Full Rut]

Women can definitely make you look stupid.:o Cant say I blame a lonely tom. :biggrin: Ive also watched some rut crazed whitetails do some pretty stupid things as well. But if turkeys are getting too easy for some, Id suggest bowhunting, without a blind. :mischeif:

[coonskinner]

Women can definitely make you look stupid.:o Cant say I blame a lonely tom. :biggrin: Ive also watched some rut crazed whitetails do some pretty stupid things as well. But if turkeys are getting too easy for some, Id suggest bowhunting, without a blind. :mischeif:

i believe i've mentioned that one...:mischeif:

[everything hunter]

Women can definitely make you look stupid.:o Cant say I blame a lonely tom. :biggrin: Ive also watched some rut crazed whitetails do some pretty stupid things as well. But if turkeys are getting too easy for some, Id suggest bowhunting, without a blind. :mischeif:

Full rut ur women comment is 100% true:dizzy: .

[razor]

Actually full rut that is my plan for this year. Taking 1 with the bow. With the added cameraman too. I have been scouting pretty hard this week and videoing some neet stuff. Turkey's goin through the pecking order to birds strutting and gobbling within feet of me. Now I do plan on using the new B-mobile decoy for footage purposes, and the extra advantage of gettin drawn on one:mischeif:

Hoping the weather coopersates this year!

[bowtech_buster]

this is my take on this thread if you think turkeys are stupid then YOU are STUPID:whistle: :idea:

[razor]

edit: don't want to stoop to his level

[coonskinner]

this is my take on this thread if you think turkeys are stupid then YOU are STUPID:whistle: :idea:

IF I GOTTA XPLAIN IT...I DOUBT YUH WILL UNNERSTAN IT...:nono:

[deerhunt45]

this is my take on this thread if you think turkeys are stupid then YOU are STUPID:whistle: :idea:
Talk about a hit and run...:mischeif:

Look at it this way, turkeys aren't all what you would call that "stupid"
(I hate that word by the way) going by either of these two classic definitions:

1.lacking ordinary quickness and keenness or (presence of mind); dull. 2.characterized foolish; senseless.

A turkey is not intelligent. They are instinctive, adaptive and mostly predictable. Their purpose is to survive and multiply. The edge they have on the hunter is keen eyesight. But when it is mating season, the male behavior changes and you can see some strange things. Not different from whitetails in that respect.

I guess you can actually say they are kinda smart by definition (adjective):

1. sharply brisk, vigorous, or active: to walk with smart steps.
2. quick or prompt in action
3. dashingly or impressively neat or trim in appearance :D
4. right smart eating :)





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[coonskinner]

IF I GOTTA XPLAIN IT...I DOUBT YUH WILL UNNERSTAN IT...:nono:

TURK ON STRIKE...GOTTA REMEMBER THAT ONE WHILE ON THE HUNT...:mischeif:

[deerhunt45]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m239/deerhunt45/eatupthanks4c.jpg

:mischeif: :D

[coonskinner]

tee jayes always serves it thanksgivin...along with punkin pie...:mischeif:

[10Gauge]

Turkey hunters are stupid....who else would pay hundreds of dollars chasing a "not so intelligent" bird around the woods when they are selling at Kroger for $0.49 a pound!?!?!:yikes:

I'm soooooo STUPID, I admit it.....I might start STHA ot "Stupid Turkey Hunters Annonymous" but I can't spell annonymous cause I'm STUPID!

[coonskinner]

Turkey hunters are stupid....who else would pay hundreds of dollars chasing a "not so intelligent" bird around the woods when they are selling at Kroger for $0.49 a pound!?!?!:yikes:

I'm soooooo STUPID, I admit it.....I might start STHA ot "Stupid Turkey Hunters Annonymous" but I can't spell annonymous cause I'm STUPID!
:D :dizzy:

[10Gauge]

bump............just 3 more days before STUPID dad's take their STUPID kids out for the YOUTH hunt to KILL more STUPID turkeys!!!! I hope they save one or two STUPID birds for me!!:biggrin: :cheeky-smiley-022: