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mrex
01-25-2007, 11:21 AM
Biologists and hunters have quoted two studies with different outcomes as the gospel concerning spike bucks, one done on the Carr Wildlife Management Area in Texas and the other conducted by Harry Jacobson at Mississippi State University (MSU).

The Texas study reports on the inferiority of spike bucks and proves that 1-1/2-year-old spike bucks don’t produce as many antlers or antlers as large at maturity as branched-antler bucks at 1-1/2-years old do. However, the Jacobson MSU study proves that, at least in the Southeast, late birth and poor nutrition can cause small antlers in 1-1/2-year-old bucks that aren’t genetically inferior. Spike bucks can catch up to the branch-antlered bucks with more age and better food, and often have larger sizes than the bucks that are branch-antlered at 1- to 1-1/2-years old.

A more-recent study by Dr. Mickey Hellickson, the chief wildlife biologist at the King Ranch in Texas, who has the largest sample size in the world of wild bucks with monitoring from yearling to 5- and 6-year old deer, has shown that bucks that start with 3 points at 1-1/2-years of age have statistically-smaller sizes than the bucks with 4 points or more at 1-1/2-years old by the time they reach 5- and 6-years old. The 3-point-and-less 1-1/2-year-old bucks score about 20 inches smaller on Boone & Crockett at 5- and 6-years old than the bucks with 4 points or more at 1-1/2-years old do at ages 5 or 6 years.

In Hellickson’s Texas study, he’s managed all these bucks under a quality deer management program or a trophy-deer program and fed all the deer supplementally with highly nutritional food. The size of the deer herd is kept under high restrictions so that there’s no reason for a deer to have less than 3 points at 1-1/2-years old or older. If you compare this statistic to the late rut in Alabama when does have fawns in August or September, you certainly can see why a buck can’t have 4 to 6 points by hunting season.

In the South, spikes serve as more of an indication of age and nutrition rather than a sign of inferior genetics. No blanket answer like one shoe fits all explains deer herds. The availability of food, the health of the herd, the size of the herd and many other factors, besides strictly genetics, play roles in antler development.

The more we learn about deer, the more we realize that we can best manage deer on a property-by-property basis, since researchers have found very few absolutes. Never set up a deer-management program based on what other people have done in other areas. Instead, determine the best type of deer-management program for the hunters in your club, the deer on your property, the soil types, vegetation and the terrain you hunt.

Hmmmm....where have we heard that before?




WILEY1
01-25-2007, 03:30 PM
Never set up a deer-management program based on what other people have done in other areas. Instead, determine the best type of deer-management program for the hunters in your club, the deer on your property, the soil types, vegetation and the terrain you hunt.
Exactly!!! And especially do not follow programs based on a completely different climate.
Hmmmm....where have we heard that before?
I wouldn't know!!! :banghead3:

BuckEyeCam
02-12-2007, 08:17 AM
:)

mrex
02-12-2007, 07:11 PM
;)

deerhunt45
02-12-2007, 07:32 PM
"A more-recent study by Dr. Mickey Hellickson, the chief wildlife biologist at the King Ranch in Texas, who has the largest sample size in the world of wild bucks with monitoring from yearling to 5- and 6-year old deer, has shown that bucks that start with 3 points at 1-1/2-years of age have statistically-smaller sizes than the bucks with 4 points or more at 1-1/2-years old by the time they reach 5- and 6-years old. The 3-point-and-less 1-1/2-year-old bucks score about 20 inches smaller on Boone & Crockett at 5- and 6-years old than the bucks with 4 points or more at 1-1/2-years old do at ages 5 or 6 years."

I should have been aware of Hellickson's data sooner ;) I might of harvested that 3 point last October :D

Siman08/OH
12-11-2008, 07:02 AM
So the two or three 8 point 1.5 year olds i have running around are keepers?

GMbuck
12-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Here is the best thing I can add to this topic. He hasn't been around in more than a year. :( I don't know what he would've been as a 3.5

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii201/GMbuck/piebald.jpg

SouthernOhio#9
12-11-2008, 10:37 PM
Nice post MREX!

Wow. I cant believe how much that piebald grew in one year! Great pictures GMbuck, thanks for sharing. That was a great addition to this post.

mrex
12-11-2008, 11:16 PM
I miss wiley1.

Johnnie
12-28-2008, 08:43 AM
Hey GM buck, do you have pictures from both sides? If not, could it be two different piebalds?

coonskinner
12-28-2008, 09:15 AM
i was wonderin the same bout the piebald...nice info...hopefully it continues an some on proper feedin techniques too,not jus bout antlers...:D

hntwhitetail
12-28-2008, 08:01 PM
We have A LOT of bucks born late... because of young does being bred in jan-april...... this sets them back a little bit.... but one strong spring/summer they'll usually be right back where they belong @ 2.5

GMbuck
12-28-2008, 08:42 PM
Hey GM buck, do you have pictures from both sides? If not, could it be two different piebalds?


I don't have any pictures of the other side of either. The pictures of the spike were taken just after I got my first digital cam. (Christmas 05) I have dozens of 35mm pics of him (some are probably the other side, but I didn't look because I can't post them) and saw him on the hoof a few times. The pics of the 8 pt. were first week of the archery season in 06. He came in twice that week and never again.

It would be an amazing coincidence if it were not the same buck. The pictures were taken a year apart on the same property. The 8pt stopped showing up not long after that pic was taken. I suspect someone shot him. Since then, I have never gotten a pic of another piebald.