law enforcement rant

[ohiodaisy]

Sorry, but I just have to rant a bit here. At 8:20 pm we heard someone shooting on or near the posted property we hunt. It was several fast very close together shots as if maybe a semi auto. I heard the first set which was several so I open the door to listen, to be sure. Ben didn't hear them. Anyhow didn't hear anymore, so I came back to the computer and a few minutes later heard two more shots, which Ben heard also. So we get in the car and take a ride, yeah I know probably not the smartest thing to do, but we did it anyway. We find two teenage boys I say about 16-17, but ben says more like 18-20, walking up the road from that area, carrying a gun. It's dark so wasn't sure what type of gun, but a gun non the less. When we pull up the kid moved the gun behind him, as if he was trying to hide it. Ben asks what the shooting was and they give us this lame excuse that they just got the gun and wanted to try it out. I ask where they are from and one says SC and the other says TX. I tell them this is Ohio and I don't care what state they are from where are they staying, :16suspect1: so they tell us with their grandfather and proceed to tell us where which is right across the road from our house (don't know these people by the way). Ben tells them that the property is posted, and it's after hours, and out of gun season anyway. They immediately say but we wasn't shooting at anything, but yet they are still on private property that is posted regardless if they were shooting at anything. We warned them to get out of there, and turned around and came back to the house. I tried to call the GW, and wasn't getting his voice mail, so I called the sherriff, only to get "What do you want us to do about it" call your GW tomorrow.:rant: Then they gave me another number for the GW. So I called it and got a direct answer by him(not sure but think it was his home number) anyway he tells me unless I seen them spotlighting and shooting there is nothing he can do about it, that it is a sherriff issue and they should have sent someone out.:rant: So we have two teenagers from out of state with a gun, after dark on private property, but nobody wants to do a thing about it. What is wrong with this picture?

Sorry just had to get this out, and rant a bit.

[hunTer06]

sounds like some bs to me

[chadwimc]

It might be an everyday thing. If I called the law every time I head a gunshot around my place, I wouldn't be doing anything else. And my spot in no longer rural.Aren't you new to the area? It might be time to go introduce yourself to Grandpa.

[Hiller]

Sounds like the same line of crap the sheriff have given me over the years. They are worthless as far as helping us out, they gave me the same response, heck they even did it to me last week. It seems like they just point fingers back and forth at each other like they don't want to drive out and do their job. It's a shame we pay them to do this and they treat us like we're the idiots when we call for their help.

[ohiodaisy]

It might be an everyday thing. If I called the law every time I head a gunshot around my place, I wouldn't be doing anything else. And my spot in no longer rural.Aren't you new to the area? It might be time to go introduce yourself to Grandpa.

Ok I will give you that in some places that may be an everyday thing, I know back in PA that was a normal sound at just about any hour, but I have lived in this house a little over a year now, and it is not an everyday thing around here. But seriously gun shots aside the property is posted "Private property no hunting, fishing, trespassing for any reason" ect. not sure of the exact wording now, but gun shots aside they were still trespassing, right? Correct me if I am wrong, but that alone should be a reason for law enforcement to at least follow up with a warning at the very least.

[everything hunter]

a bad case of lazy sheriff
:rolleyes:

[ohiosam]

On a scale of 1 to 10 the sheriff would probably call this a 2. What they did is wrong. Was anything damaged? Sheriff would concider that more serious.

BTW how can you live out in the country for a year and not know the guy across the road?

[bowhunter1023]

You need to get to know someone, either a GW or a Sheriff. My dad's cousin runs the show for the Sheriff's in our county...We have no problem getting some brass out for a problem. I also had great connections to the wife of the old GW, things were easy then too.

Sorry to hear about you problem though.

On Sunday afternoon I decided to take my buddy Eric out behind my house since it hadn't been hunted all year and I have a perfect set-up for someone who has never got a deer to make it easy to do so. Well we get in there and I was clearing some vines and such from the platfrom and I hear talking. I look up there are 2 teenagers just talking a laughing walking on our property driving every deer out of the area. I was so pissed to say the least. We just left, since I don't hunt there anymore anyway, it wasn't worth my effort to do anything.

[eschatts]

Heather when you called the GW, did you talk to Eric?

Ed

[geezer]

Heather i would call and write a letter to the Sheriff (the head man, the one elected) - and your county comissioners and let them know.

[BandanaMan]

Heather i would call and write a letter to the Sheriff (the head man, the one elected) - and your county commissioners and let them know.

Yes........by all means.........call the elected Sheriff and tell him personally what happened and what his dispatchers did (said) when you called!

I'll guarantee you'll get results!

[ohiodaisy]

Heather when you called the GW, did you talk to Eric?

Ed

Yes I did talk to Eric. He was very nice, and has been each time I have talked to him, and I do understand his point that without knowing for sure or seeing them with a light looking for animals to shoot, I understand why he couldn't come out. He was upset with the fact the sherriff's office was so rude about it, and actually apologized for them. Not his fault!

[ohiodaisy]

Yes........by all means.........call the elected Sheriff and tell him personally what happened and what his dispatchers did (said) when you called!

I'll guarantee you'll get results!

Thanks, I looked up the number online, and called. He was in court, but when I told the person that answered the phone why I was calling she said that someone should have definately been sent out, and she took my name and number for him to call me, so now just waiting for the call.

[BandanaMan]

Sounds like you got the ball rolling now!

Some deputy is going to get a butt chewing!

[ruffhunter]

As an officer, this is a dispatcher issue. They handle the radio, enter warrants etc, They should have entered the call and sent an officer. However, you make it sound like a small, good ol'boy department, by who you know. It does not and should never work that way as far as getting something done. I assure you we would have sent two officers by policy and followed up.

[brian]

Even IF law enforcement would have shown up, lets say, 2 minutes after you called, what would they find, and what would you expect them to do? Not only did law enforcement not catch them on your property, you did not even see them on your property. I would go visit Gramps ( which you probably should have done already) and talk neighborly with him...pretty simple really.

[ohiodaisy]

Ok I am finished ranting :) The Captain of the sherriff's office returned my phone call, and when I told him what had happened he apologized several times, because someone should have been sent out. Asked the time I made the call so he could go back and check call records to see who took that call, to find out why I got the response i got. He then immediately sent a sherriff out to my house to get more information, locations and such, and they went to issue a warning, made a report, and assured me that they are looking into finding out who I talked to last night to handle that situation also.

Thanks for listening to my ranting, I feel better now, so done ranting.

[ohiobowhunter75]

Officers should have been sent out to investigate.Maybe they were shooting at deer,maybe not.What if's need answers.It could have been a more serious crime.Atleast a good talking too was needed.:tsk:

[coonskinner]

Officers should have been sent out to investigate.Maybe they were shooting at deer,maybe not.What if's need answers.It could have been a more serious crime.Atleast a good talking too was needed.:tsk:

yup it coulda been a murder an nobuddy shows up...:mischeif:

[10Gauge]

oh daisy,

When my wife calls the local law enforcement about trespassers and/or other gun toting trouble makers she tells them, "Don't shoot my husband he is chasing them with his Colt 45 and will identify himself as friendly."

It's amazing how fast they show up when they think someone is about to get shot!

Seriously, your case sounds like the typical "Mayberry", Andy & Barney episode that we see in Vinton and Ross County on a monthly basis! It gets old and for us it never gets much better.....you will more than likely find out the two kids are the game warden or sheriffs cousins anyway!

[Hiller]

Yea I hear ya on that 10gauge, they don't seem to want to come out unless lives are being threatened.

I just don't understand the attitude of the dispatchers, the last few times I have called about tresspassers they say "well what do you want us to do about it" Well I want you to come out and arrest them LOL isn't tresspassing a crime anymore?

I dunno, sometimes though you really need them out there if nothing more than to just scare the tresspassors into not tresspassing anymore

[10Gauge]

hiller, next time you call them tell them there are two trespassers tied to an oak tree and if they don't come now the next time they get a call it will be to pick up their dried, bleached, crow picked bones!