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[traphunter]

:mad: :dizzy: :nono: Well went out hunting today again with doewatcher ( Tom ). We passed on a couple does because we was looking for the big buck doewatcher had been hunting all fall. Well the sunsets so its time to quit hunting, but before we pack up we fire a few rounds at a target to make sure we are still on.

Right at dark we see another hunter who was hunting the next property over come walking back to his truck. Being the friendly people that we are, we walked over and asked him if he did any good. He proceded to tell us that he had deer coming to him but as soon as they heard us shoot they ran away, and that it was our fault that they ran and he didnt get them. My friend said that he was sorry, but that we were just shooting at targets. Keep in mind that when we started shooting the taget it was past legal hunting hours, so this guy was illegal anyway!! I never said I was sorry because I wasnt at all. We never did anything illegal or rude, and he didnt own the property. He shouldnt have still been hunting anyway. He was very arogant and sarcastic the whole time, you know the kind that you just want to punch in the face and then kick in the nads.

Now heres the kicker,

He told us ( the man who hunts one week a year ) that he had shot a huge 10 back there monday, and then tuesday he shot 2 button bucks. This big 10 point was the same one Tom had been working his ass off all season for. This idiot had already shot his limit and yet he was still back there hunting trying to get another one. Once again this moron was Illegal!!


None of his illegal "doings" registered to me untill after he was already pulling out. Otherwise I would have gotten his license plate number. I am so frustrated because of stupid poachers like him, and also because he killed all these deer right close to our property, and they were all bucks!!:rant:

Oh I forgot to mention that this loser tried to tell Tom that he was the only one that had permission to hunt there, and that the landowner said noone else is allowed. This is pure BS because Tom calls the landowner EVERYtime before he heads out, and the landowner gives him the Ok almost everytime.

I am tossed up on what to do. I want to call the TIP hotline but I dont have any hard evidence so I highly doubt it would amount to anything. I guess I could give the address of where the property is, and the discription of the vehicle? I dont know, how would you all handle this situation.?

[Hiller]

Well you can't do anything about him killing "your" deer. He can shoot whatever he wants, he doesn't have to follow your guidlines. But if he is already tagged out and still hunting I think I would contact the sheriff, or game warden in your county. As far as shooting after legal hours you may want to be careful, someone could turn you in for shooting after hours and may get you in a mess trying to explain yourself out of it even though you were only shooting at a target. I know many people who have been nailed just because there guns were loaded after legal shooting time and they were even standing at their truck. Be careful with that. Gun season the game wardens seem to come down alot harder, and aren't willing to give the benefit of the doubt unless they know for sure you weren't breaking the law.
If the guy comes back I would definetly report him if your sure he is tagged out. That way if he's there you will have your evidence, otherwise it's hard to prove that he is illegal even though you know that he is. I would just wait for him to come back unless you are sure you got him on something.
Good luck

[buckbacks]

what about written permission? sounds like none of you may have it:tsk:

[Gunners]

First you MUST have written permission, if you do then call him on it, if not becareful of what you do. Second you shot after hunting hours, again your looking for trouble even when your just shooting targets, you can't proove it the GW can and usually does ticket for that. If you feel your in the RIGHT and have done all your correctly yourself follow up on it, but don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. I nailed a neighbor on Monday night when I heard a shot a 7:45 pm after seeing 2 deer in the yard. The idiot checked it in saying it was off his property at 4pm. His property equals 1/4 acre lot. He lost the deer his weapons, I lost another doe off the property.
Jeff

[bakerboy]

"He told us ( the man who hunts one week a year ) that he had shot a huge 10 back there monday, and then tuesday he shot 2 button bucks". This idiot is so lame that he may have shot 3 deer, but not found any so there is no lack of tag violation.

[chadwimc]

Button bucks are counted as antlerless. You can have two button bucks and a nice buck in certain zones.

[traphunter]

Ok I will make this clearer,

The property where we was hunting, joins the property where the other guy was hunting. Both me and Tom have permission to be on the land we were hunting last night, but only Tom has permission to be on the other land ( where the other guy was hunting )

Chad, I know button bucks count as anterless deer, but he had already gotten a 10 pointer plus the two button bucks. That is the limit here, yet he was still going out trying to kill another deer.

TO be honest, I think that he was having other people check his deer in for him, so he may still have tags left, even though he has already shot 3 deer. He mentioned that he had 7 kids so I wouldnt be surprized if he shoots many more deer. Would you should calling the TIP hotline?

[M.Magis]

As mentioned, having a loaded gun after hours is a sure way to a ticket. Firing that gun is even worse. Calling the TIP line is up to you, but nothing can be proven. Heck, he could be lieing to you.

[WILEY1]

Traphunter,
I know you and I have gone head-to-head these last couple of days. But before you start your bashing and gremlins, hear me out. You started this gun season willing to ban gun hunting, you've complained about the "city" hunters taking your bucks, and being shot at by hunters. And yet you have hunted every day this gun season so far. Now, It appears you have an agenda, However, I'm not exactly sure what it is. Maybe your upset because he beat you to the 10 point.
As for this guy. You should mention the limit to him next time you guys see him. Maybe he'll get the hint (however I doubt he would). At least he's taking 'em home and not just droppin' 'em. Even though he unfortunately shot B-Bucks. Hope your luck changes. Things should get better once some guys are out of the woods.

[El Cazador Loco]

If he's breaking the law then call the GW.

[Andy Gehle]

Dude. Unfortunately Wiley kind of has a point.
All your complaining and wanting to ban gun season if you could, but you're out there toting steel like everyone else. A bit on the hypocritical side.

And pay no attention to what that guy said or didn't say. If I ran into some hunters who I knew were shooting past legal hours, I'd probably feed them a line of bull too.
Who knows what he shot or didn't shoot. Maybe he was just trying to detour you guys from ever wandering over onto his property.
Who knows.
Pay no regard and hunt hard.

[traphunter]

I think some of you are missing a point. Yes we shot our gun past sunset, but it was at a target. I always stop at sunset even though I think it is a stupid law, and I make sure whoever is hunting with me stops also. In no way would I ever have any intention shooting a deer past legal hours. The other guy however, was still HUNTING past legal hours, and as he told us he was getting ready to shoot some deer before we spooked them. Get off my back about target shooting and maybe worry about people who are still out there hunting. Are you all telling me that you have NEVER fired a shot after sunset? Never shot your muzzleloaders to unload them before you headed out? IF you did shame on you.:chicken: :rolleyes:


Once agian wiley even though I already wrote this once, the reason I am hunting is to spend time with tom and to patrol our land. The place we was at last night is right down from the land we own. I am trying to get tom on a buck because if we dont then im sure someone else will gladly kill it for us. I said that I didnt like gun season and I dont. But I still am going to hunt it for the reasons mentioned above.

BTW none of that has anything to do with my original post so why try to start yet another argument?:confused:

[WILEY1]

Because all you do is blame everyone else for you not bagging a deer! DA!

[eschatts]

I am tossed up on what to do. I want to call the TIP hotline but I dont have any hard evidence so I highly doubt it would amount to anything. I guess I could give the address of where the property is, and the discription of the vehicle? I dont know, how would you all handle this situation.?

No one can tell you what to do. If you want to call then do it, if not then just let it go.

Ed

[Hiller]

They make laws to stop you at sunset and begin at 1/2 hour before sunrise so things like what happened 5 miles down the road from me don't happen.(Richland County fatality) You can think it's a stupid law all you want until it hits home. Even if your not planning on shooting afterwards.

As far as the guy shooting more than three deer goes, your gonna have to use your judgement on that one, if there's enough evidence to nail him and your sure he's in the wrong then heck yeah I wouldn't hesitate to call in.

[Gunners]

I think some of you are missing a point. Yes we shot our gun past sunset, but it was at a target.
That is the point, its against the law to discharge a firearm while on hunting grounds, as it is to walk out to your vehicle with a loaded weapon. But were pissing up a tree at this point. You still have to figure out what your going to do. You have the right to ask and do something about it.

[Q2XL]

i thought ya was allowed too hunt coyote durin gun season. and there aint no cut off time .ya can hunt them 24 hours a day if ya want too so how ya goin too get in trouble for firin after legal deer hours. ya can just say ya shootin at a yote.:confused: :D

[Gunners]

i thought ya was allowed too hunt coyote durin gun season. and there aint no cut off time .ya can hunt them 24 hours a day if ya want too so how ya goin too get in trouble for firin after legal deer hours. ya can just say ya shootin at a yote.:confused: :D
That's a good question and I'm not a GW and I do not know all the laws but during gun season I thought there were different guideliines. I'll check on that or someone in the no can tell us.

[BigDale]

Myself, I think it is foolish to fire a shotgun at a target in an area that you may plan to hunt further in the season. I always thought the idea was to slip in quietly and slip back out quietly

[Gunners]

Deer Gun Season - It is unlawful to hunt any wild animal except deer, coyote, wild boar, or waterfowl statewide from 1/2 hour before sunrise to sunset. Hunters must possess a special deer permit with the temporary tag attached that is valid for the zone or unit being hunted. Hunters may not possess rifle ammunition or shot shells (except waterfowl hunters), however, hunters using a muzzleloading rifle, .38 caliber or larger may possess ammunition for that rifle. Night hunting of furbearers, except coyote and wild boar, is also permitted when the deer gun season is open. All persons (except waterfowl hunters) hunting during the deer gun season are required to wear hunter orange.