is every body a critic

[carpwarrior]

why can somebody come over to the bowfishing forum with a opinion on bow fishing, and that opinion has no fact or first hand knowledge about it ,and start a heated debate. but when we defend our sport and pasttime, non bowfishing members of ohio sporsman including moderators will come over to the bowfishing side to fuel the fire , how many times has a bowfisherman jumped on someone elses sport . none that i have been able to read of in the forums. so why is it it keeps on hapening over and over , and about the moderator , why cant we have a moderator of our owne . just have desperado be the moderator of the bow fishing forum, that way when a non bowfisherman comes over starting crap , the moderator can tell him to take a hike, that way we can keep some peace in here . the name of this web site is ohio sportsman, not pi$$ed off sportsman, i am not blameless ,i get sucked right in every time then i end up wanting to take back the harshness of my words , i joyned this cite because i wanted to chat with and learn some things from my fellow sportsman , but when all the judgemental opinions start flying around it makes it pretty sad, COME ON GUYS LETS HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER IN HERE. it all comes down to one thing ,we all love the great out doors , if its fishing, hunting , or what ever your pleasure is , so let a man have his sport, we let every body else have theres without hasle:(

[flathunter]

I think we should let this topic die a peacefull death...

[salmoide]

i think moderators should just moderate, they are supposed to be non-biased. i can see where in certain situations a moderator has infringed on the rules but nothing is done about that without pointing any fingers. certain threads should be assigned a moderator but he can't respond, he only moderates the thread. but they are still free to post on other threads, just not the one there moderating. yea just let that bowfish moderator stay in bowfish, how can i become a moderator ? i want to moderate the moderators. also thats why they call it forums it's open for everyone, but it should be just like i said before. as far as jumping in somewhere, i thought it was like this if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

[george tinkham]

cw...everyone desrves their say,not just you...the topic let everybuddy have their say as should be,then it was closed as should be...everybuddy just repeats theirself after awhile and thats time to close the topic...need to be fair to all,his point is felt by many hunters and fishers as is baiting bears...and this is a topic that probably should be closed after we expressed our OPINIONS...maybe there should be a rule on hot topics ...one post per member and give it your best shot...that topic was handled perfect and on the bowsite it would make 1000 posts with everybuddy posting 100 times saying the same thing,completely handling it in the worst way

[carpwarrior]

i guess what i am trying to say is lets have some common respect in here for one another , and with out trashing one another. your probally right george this should be closed now. i did not right this to heat things up again , every day i learn something new thanks george.

[Ðe§perado™]

Well said guys. we do need to move on.;)

[Steve]

Who would you guys propose making the moderator of the bowfishing forum?

[Caribou Dreamer2]

Desperado would be my vote:Or at least some one that bowfishes them self

[LookMa-NoHands!]

I think he is the best choice. I also agree that in a heated debate, the moderator should keep his trap shut-it just adds to the fire.

George is right as well-this happens every few months, on every forum/website that I have seen. That's why I didn't post a single comment this time. It doesn't do any good.

As long as bucktail, flathunter, or whoever is not out on the water harrassing me as I cap some carp, I'm not gonna let them(or their opinions) bother me. Now, if you'll excuse me....I'm gonna finish a few more arrows-it's almost time! :eek:

[salmoide]

as ben johnson used to say in the ft apache movie with john wayne, that aint my department. :D i say let steve decide since he is administrator, i believe we can trust his judgement.

[salmoide]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LookMa-NoHands!
[B]I think he is the best choice. I also agree that in a heated debate, the moderator should keep his trap shut-it just adds to the fire.

As long as bucktail, flathunter, or whoever is not out on the water harrassing me as I cap some carp, I'm not gonna let them(or their opinions) bother me. [QUOTE]

now isnt that finger pointing ?

[LookMa-NoHands!]

First of all, Steve ASKED us who WE think should be the moderator. I'm giving my input. Case closed.

As far as pointing the finger, I don't see what your point is. If you want me to point a finger, I will. But it won't be my index finger!

Let the bodies hit the floor..........



:D

[carpwarrior]

my vote is for desperado , in every heated debate he is one of the few that keeps his cool and is fair and not judemental, he is a bow fisherman and he seems to be an all around good sportsman i yet to see him atack some one because of the sport they choose, and he is always active in the forums with helping advice. STEVE can we have a vote on it, or do a poll?

[george tinkham]

i'd say desperado,he really is into this and we have had very good discussions

[Jumper]

Hey Guys,
Hope you allow me to voice my opinion. I'm not from Ohio, but being an avid bowfisher, I thought I might give my .02 worth. (the moderator poll was closed so that's why I'm posting it in this post)

To Bucktail,
Not sure what you're hidden agenda is, but it's obvious to me you're trying to start an argument by passing on your views and beliefs as facts. It's won't work with us. We've been down this road so many times it's not funny. The fact remains this. Yes the possibility of shooting large numbers of fish is there and does happen. Literally tons of fish can be shot during a weekend tournament. But if bowfishing and harvesting such a large number of fish were so detrimental to the ecosystem and to the species, why are we allowed to do so? Why does the Fish and Game departments ask us how they can put on a tournament because they need help in controlling the numbers? Carp themselves spawn in such numbers, that they've become more of a nuisance than a benefit. Carp are quickly becoming the thorn in the F&G's side.

Or is it really the fact you just don't like bowfishing so you thought you could come in here and basically accuse us of being "unethical"? Whatever the reason is for you to come in here and cause problems, I don't care. But as long as bowfishing is legal, I'll continue to do so. And if ever my right to bowfish is threatened, I'll defend it. If you have such heartburn about bowfishing or the numbers of fish that can be harvested, we're not the ones to be complaining to. That's something for your Fish and Game department to handle. But I would almost guarantee your plea will fall on deaf ears.

You'll never hear about a bowfisher going to another forum complaining about how we feel using rod and reel is "unethical" or a waste of time or too easy. Never. But it's always the perchjerkers who come to the bowfishing forums trying to pass off their beliefs and opinions as fact. Quit it. It shouldn't matter to you or anyone else what we're doing as long as it's legal and we're not breaking any laws. Like I said, if you have problems with bowfishing, take it to the people who make the rules but you better have the facts with you to support your view because we will.

To the others,
I've never met Desperado personally, but I've talked to him on several occasions on other bowfishing forums and I think he'd make a great moderator. Since this is your forum, I'm not going to vote, but if I did, it would be for Des.

And one last moment on the soapbox then I'll get out of here. Guys like Bucktail and Flathunter aren't pro-bowfishing (yes, it's that obvious). So when guys like them come to your forum and try to start something, ignore them. They're primary intention is to come here saying bowfishing is "useless slaughter" (a term I've heard used to describe bowfishing) only to start some sort of heated debate. And usually they have no knowledge whatsoever on the sport. Like I said, they're momma told them bowfishing is the devil so that's what they believe. There's nothing we can say to change their mind. Nor is there anything they can say to change ours. We know the facts of this sport.

Ok. Off the soapbox and time to get to work. Good luck this season and I hope to cross paths with you one of these days.

Bowfishing: This ain't your momma's catch and release!!
Jump

[Caribou Dreamer2]

Very good response jumper ,welcome aboard

[Steve]

Desperato is now the moderator!!!!

[Steve]

BTW, bucktail will no longer be making posts on this forum.

[Wise1]

Steve, another fine decision, without a doubt......

Thanks for keeping the peace

[MISFIT]

make that 2 good moves.i think desperado will do fine.i've talked with him quite a bit and fished with him in the past,before either of us ever joined this site.he can be outspoken at times (like myself),but i think,being an all around fisherman(bow&rod/reel)he can be objective,and not show bias just because he bowfishes.he's kinda like me.basically a easy goin' fat fisherman who loves the outdoors:D ;) had to get that in,clarence.
well,at least you're not old and broke down like me:eek: :rolleyes:

[carpwarrior]

goes to show ya good things comes to those who are patience and relaxed , GOOD JOB STEVE

[Ðe§perado™]

Thanks guys for all the kind words. I have always tried to be fair about things and I do have opinions. Thanks Steve for allowing me to be the moderator of the bowfishing forum.:D
I'm going to do my best and stop all the negitivity in the site.

I'm looking forward to bowfishing with all of you this year. I'm working on a plan for a get together on making a bowfishing club for Ohio. Also working on another tournament. Thanks again guys!!;)

[getinjiggy]

Man bout time! lol Ive been watching this one unfold! Now about Despirado!! Nah just messing! Never met him, and if I had anything bad to say I would do it to his face! Good call Steve! Desp. Im sure will do great! Glenn:D :D :D :D

[Ðe§perado™]

Thanks Glenn!!;)

[carpwarrior]

hey desperado , thanks for being a good ole boy, lol:D

[Ðe§perado™]

Thanks CW for your support!! ;)

[george tinkham]

i think we got some cool heads here and i applaud the carpers here for keepin it pretty cival under the circumstances...

[lureboy98]

Congrats Desperado. With your knowledge you were a shoe-in for the job. With all these plans, don't forget we have to get out and stick some pigs.

[george tinkham]

yeh he sed if i voted for him he'd take me bowfeeshin

[carpwarrior]

yea thats right,you did say that deperado,if we voted for you ,you would take us bow fishin. lol

[george tinkham]

hes a slick shyster

[MISFIT]

where are you going to find the time to fulfill all those "campaighn promises" of bowfishing trips?:eek: ;) guess i shoulda made reservations:rolleyes: ;)

[george tinkham]

wait til STEVE FINDS OUT HE BOUGHT THE ELECTION

[Ðe§perado™]

LOL..you guys are something else! I would love to take everyone bowfishing. Maybe have a get together at a lake or river and have at it. I will be taken several of you out bowfishing with me this year. Hope to see lots of you guys at the next tournament.;)

[jeffmo]

good going desperado.now, if we can just convert you to a buckeyes fan...:D :D :D :D :D

[george tinkham]

it can be done...at a price!!!

[Erie]

Ðe§perado™
Moderator
:) :)

[Erie]

No Comments about the "Clap" Critics:eek: :rolleyes: :cool:

:D :D

[Ðe§perado™]

Thanks guys. Converting....anything can be possible....;)