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5Cent
02-26-2006, 04:59 PM
Looking to sell a pistol to my brother. I bought it last year, registered in my name, how do I go about registering it in his? I know there are people out there that do not, and don't mind doing it since it's my brother (he shouldn't be leaving it at a murder scene or anything), but want to do it legally.




OHBOW76
02-26-2006, 05:05 PM
If its your borther or a family member many guys will just keep a personal record of the serial number. If you want just go to any firearms dealer and for a small fee they can transfer ownership officially, if you know them well and do plenty of buisness there they may not charge anything.

MUZZY MAN
02-26-2006, 05:05 PM
Your local police department can do that. At least here in columbus they do.

5Cent
02-26-2006, 05:15 PM
Much appreciated guys. I'll see how he feels about it, and see what the fees are. Thanks again.

OUBeerman
02-26-2006, 05:42 PM
Nickle,

You don't have to do anything just sell it to him. Your gun is not actually registered so to speak. All the paper work you filled out when you bought it was just a background check on you. The goverment has no record that you own that gun or any others.

CStan
02-26-2006, 07:32 PM
Unless you live in some locality with special regulations there is no "registration" in Ohio. If you buy from a dealer you fill out paperwork, if you buy from or sell to a private individual there is no paperwork required.

XX78
02-26-2006, 07:41 PM
Nickle,

You don't have to do anything just sell it to him. Your gun is not actually registered so to speak. All the paper work you filled out when you bought it was just a background check on you. The goverment has no record that you own that gun or any others.


My .02 cents,

OUBeerman is correct, well partially I believe. You don't need to have it transfered by an FFL holder or police department, unless you live in an area with certain restrictive ordinances. These areas are typically larger cities like Columbus. I am not saying that Columbus has this type of legislature on the books, just was using the city as an example. With that being said, as long as he is atleast 18 for a longun or 21 for a handgun, a resident of OHIO, and felony free, a basic FTF (Face TO Face) transaction is fine, and you will have nothing to worry about. The problem with FTF transactions between strangers is there is no way a seller can perform a background check on the buyer. Although in our state the background check is only applicable to handguns, this could backfire on the seller if the buyer is a convicted felon at the time of the transaction and later commits another crime with the newly, illegally acquired handgun. Taking the firearm to a FFL to perform a transfer will allow for a background check and eliminate all fears of future legal problems.

I'm not so sure that the govt has no idea that you own that firearm. Once your cleared for the firearm thru the NCIS system, I highly doubt that they destroy those records............

OUBeerman
02-26-2006, 07:53 PM
From what the ATF told me they destoy all the forms if they acquire them. The only time they do acquire them is if the store you purchased the firearm from changes ownership, goes out of business, or changes locations. The forms must be kept on premise because they are the stores proof that they legally transferred all the firearms. The ATF performs a check when they recieve the forms to make sure all the records were correctly kept, then supposedly destroys all the paperwork. But who really trusts the government.

XX78
02-26-2006, 08:00 PM
Yeah I wasn't really finding falt with your statement, just the fact that you can never be totally sure what the govt does or doesn't do.

johnch
02-26-2006, 09:11 PM
I would be carfull
I checked with a FFL holder and the BATF agent checking paperwork .

You can trasferr a pistol to a person over 21 years old or older that can prove they live in your state with out going thru a dealer .

BUT if they live in another state you need to have it transferred thru a dealer .
Selling or buying a pistol out of state is against the law , I was told ( by the BATF agent ) it can be a FELONY

I don't know the in's and out's of the law and don't want to be on the wrong side of it .

I would call the local BATF office and ask before I did anything dumb

Johnch

5Cent
02-27-2006, 01:41 PM
All great advice, much appreciated. My brother's instate, not planning on moving anytime soon and I'm going to be back home in the same town anyways so I'm not going to worry about it.