sites on a recurve,discussion...

[coonskinner]

well what do you think...they are tradition,i personally know they were used in the 60s,a lot...i personally know they are the most accurate method of shooting a recurve bow by a human being...i personally have one 45# bow set up with a site(it came that way from the auction) and only shoot it in a blue moon but i dont recall missing the kill area yet with it...would i ever use one,no,if it meant putting holes in my bow...i do have 2 other bows that are sight ready though...a 50# and a 55#...for a guy who just cant get the hang of the recurve but really wants to hunt with a site, just like the guys did many moons ago,and be ethical...a recurve with sites fits that discription...bowyers will make bows sight ready...:mischeif:

[mullskinner]

AM I SEEING DOUBLE:confused: :dizzy:

[Thunderflight]

What's the problem? I remember all the archery golf guys had recurves set up similar to the 3D compounds of today. They used sights all the time.

Guess it's up to the individual. They aren't for me though.

[coonskinner]

well that double wasnt there while ago...:dizzy:

[geezer]

coonskinner - well i started out instinctive shooting but then a worker at tappan lake offered me a ride one evening as i was walking back to camp and asked - where's your sight? - he took me to the maintainance garage and let me shoot his bow with a simple pin sight - awsome - well he got me a sight and i put it on my recure - this was back in the early 60's - i never went back to intinctive shooting - well i guess its just what ever FLOATS YOUR BOAT :bouncy: - i'm just a hunter - not any labeled type of archer - although i do enjoy shoot my bows for recreation -

take care
geezer

[Caribou Dreamer2]

So if i put a sight on my recurve can i still shoot in the trad class at 3-d shoot or would i have to shoot in another class??????

[coonskinner]

i would think you would shoot against others that use sites on their bows...osta does not have a class like this...so i guess at an osta shoot you would just not keep score if you use a site in your bow...i would think the oba would have a class for this at their shoots...i have seen archers at oba shoots with sited recurves...i picked up a bow one time on my way to an osta shoot...it was a 25# hit bow with weird bent limbs...it has a one pin target site as its a target bow...i took it to the practice site at the shoot,got used to it easily,went out shot a perfect score on the course...amazing...:mischeif:

[mullskinner]

:nono: ............:gaga:

[CStan]

I don't see a problem using sights on a recurve, makes a deadly setup.

[coonskinner]

mullskinner dont shake that heavy head at me...:irked:

[mullskinner]

What Ever Makes Ya Happy Coonskinner........;)

[tuffshot]

I like the fiber optics the best!
They bolt right on to my Warf style recurve with the hoyt riser..:whistle:

[coonskinner]

i'm a happy camper...:mischeif:

[mullskinner]

I THINK I'M GOING OUTSIDE AND SHOOT MY CROSSBOW SOME ..
I HEARD A TURKEY GOBBLE THIS MORNIN ... I GOT TO MAKE SURE MY SCOPE IS ZERO'ED IN ...:whistle:

[Caribou Dreamer2]

Thats to funny i think i might join you.

I THINK I'M GOING OUTSIDE AND SHOOT MY CROSSBOW SOME ..

By the way whats wrong with a crossbow,At least your going out a practicing with it right.

I have also been told when you first start out with trad equipment (Which i am)It is best to put a site on your bow that way you get your form down then once your have got this down take the site off. Anybody else ever heard of this,I have thought about putting a site on my bow for referance point.(One pin).

I tried this on my bowfishing rig but i find my self not even paying attention to it,That why i never put one on my recurve last year when i start my training.

[Thunderflight]

If you plan on shooting instinctive then I'd stick with that. You'll calibrate yourself quicker. You can still practice your form, but just do it at close ranges.

[mullskinner]

most of my shooting is done indoors just working on form at close range ...
i hadn't shot any recurves or longbows in 5 years ....it took about 15 minutes before things started to feel right again.........i still ain't close to were i was but it's coming along ...:D

[Caribou Dreamer2]

Thanks guys for the answer i think i might work on a little range in my garage i think i could get 10 yards in there.
Should make the wife happy:irked: :rant: :rant:

[RURIK]

I wont be installing any sights on my recurve...I have them on my "Wheelie-Bows"...I like the whole Idea of shooting off the shelf with wood-shafts and No sights...Isnt that what "Traditional" is all about??? I PERSONALLY think that sights were just the begining of modernizing bow-hunting and archery and soon after came the wheels and all the other tech stuff that has led to todays "Modern Archer and Hunter". There is nothing wrong with it, to me, Just not "Traditional"...My 2 cents....

[Arrow 1]

..well what do you think...they are tradition,i personally know they were used in the 60s,a lot.............Says Coonskinner.

So since the Allen compound was first sold in the 60's. Is it Traditional too? Along with those traditional aluminum arrows you were talking about on another thread!:yikes: :whistle: :coco: ;)

[coonskinner]

sites were used in the 50s and i suspect even earlier,much earlier,i was speaking bout what i personally witnessed in the 60s...alum. arrows too have been around well before 1960...yes the allen came out in 1967 i believe...it was not well recieved as it was basically i pc. of junk...tom jennings improved the design and the compound really started selling like wildfire in 1970...i believe jennings cp came out in 1969.this is some time i'm not sure of because in 67-70 i was in the marines when most of this major cp stuff took place... but most trads seem to say that the old trad. was "before compounds"or(bc)...i wasnt shootin a bow prior to 1964...i can only go on what i've read before 1964...:mischeif: ...as far as me,again, personally i started shooting a brand new 1970 bear super kodiak as soon as i was out of the service in jan....i just didnt like those things...

[coonskinner]

caribou,there are many good books on instinctive shooting...most use the same basics...i only know of fred bear that advocated useing a site for beginning instinctive shooters...and maybe even the other methods not using sites...then dropping the site later when you have all the mechanics right...but anyway a good book or video will help you...also if you join osta and go to their shoots there is a lot there that can get you on the right path...:mischeif:

[Turkeyfoot]

Aluminum arrows were the norm back in the 60's....Field archery was definitley at it's height back then :) We shot at ranges from 15ft out to 80 yards. Ever try to hit anything at 80yds with a 550gr wood arrow:yikes: I think you can see why alum was the arrow of choice for all archers. Many opted for 38-42# Bear Tamerlanes with sliding sites to cope with the longer distances. I can remember, as an junior instinctive shooter, be classed the same as the site shooters in competition:yikes: Needless to say, I did'nt win many of those matches but it made me a better archer. It demanded cocentration and good form to compete at those ranges! No 3-d back then. In the fall, we switched to our hunting bows of 45-50#. Some shot wood, but most still stuck with the aluminum shaft. We cut cardboard and glued animal targets still shooting at ranges out to 60 yds or so. Good times....you betcha!! IMO, we were traditional before traditional was cool;) .....TF

[coonskinner]

now dont forget about fiberglas...i used fiberglas in the 60s as much or maybe more than alum. but switched back to alum. in 1970 and never looked back until the trad. revolution started again,i used wood about a yr.because everybuddy else was but decided on alum. again for hunting even though i continued wood at osta shoots...now i use alum. too a lot at shoots...about the only reason i now use wood is because if i lose a wood arrow at a shoot it doesnt cost me as much as a lost alum...:mischeif:

[mullskinner]

I wont be installing any sights on my recurve...I have them on my "Wheelie-Bows"...I like the whole Idea of shooting off the shelf with wood-shafts and No sights...Isnt that what "Traditional" is all about??? I PERSONALLY think that sights were just the begining of modernizing bow-hunting and archery and soon after came the wheels and all the other tech stuff that has led to todays "Modern Archer and Hunter". There is nothing wrong with it, to me, Just not "Traditional"...My 2 cents....

by the way how is the new set up comming along ...:confused:

[Turkeyfoot]

Yes...fiberglass was popular too! Microflight, Graphflex, and even Herter's farbenglass were used by many archers at that time:) ....TF

[hoot gibson]

traditional is whatever the guy next to you thinks , you will get arguments everywhere you go . but i do know what osta thinks of them , ,, the only other thing you are allowed on your bow , except a guiver , is a rest on your recyrve ,

[mullskinner]

by the way how is the new set up comming along ...:confused:

TTT..............:D

[RURIK]

TTT..............:D

GREAT, I love it!
Cant group real well yet but I can keep it in the block at 20 yards...I havent practiced too much lately cause of the weather!

[mullskinner]

MY BLOCK IS INSIDE AT 12 LONG YARDS ...........I GOT THE VITALS SHOT OUT OF IT MAYBE I WILL GO TO DIAMONDS .........:bouncy:

[coonskinner]

traditional is whatever the guy next to you thinks , you will get arguments everywhere you go . but i do know what osta thinks of them , ,, the only other thing you are allowed on your bow , except a guiver , is a rest on your recyrve ,



ohh hoot ,hoot i have seen them ugly no good for nothing worthless limbsavors on recurves,oh i hope i never see one on a longbow and please,not on a selfbow...i know this isnt the old guard doing this...its the ...the new trads....never ever seen a limbsaver in 1960s,lifesavers but no limbsavers...:mischeif:

[mullskinner]

MY CAHOKIA MUST HAVE LIMBSAVER'S BUILT IN :confused:
I CAN'T HERE A THING ....:coolgleamA:

[coonskinner]

MY CAHOKIA MUST HAVE LIMBSAVER'S BUILT IN :confused:
I CAN'T HERE A THING ....:coolgleamA:



as long as they dont stick out like----on a wild boar hog!!!

[mullskinner]

as long as they dont stick out like----on a wild boar hog!!!


HOGZ NUTZ ........................:eek:

[Jayme]

I never tried shooting a recurve with sights, but last year and did try a comound and oh my.. :dizzy:

[hunTer06]

Sites on a recurve is completely up to the individual. There are guys that shoot sightless with their compounds, take the Fitzgeralds for instance.

I've only shot instinctive a few times, and man is it tough. Im sure I could get used to it after a while, but it was tough in the little time I tried it. Its enough of an added challenge to kill a deer with a recurve, even with sights. I admire the guy who kills deer with a sightless recurve. I hope I can acheive that someday.

[coonskinner]

nuge shoots cp with no sights...also i have seen a few at oba shoots...and a guy stopped in at our deer camp ,had sights on his recurve...:mischeif:

[OHBOW76]

I heard of guys using matchsticks for sights on there recurves.But I think if your going to shoot recurve or longbow your better off not using a sight. Instinctive shooting allows you to shhot from akward angles and your bow doesnt have to be completely veritical, but if you put a sight on it then you have to shoot with the bow in the same position everytime.

[Arrow 1]

traditional is whatever the guy next to you thinks , ..............................Says Hoot.

I agree. A lot of this so called traditional equipment is only traditional in appearance.

I hear a lot of so called traditonal shooters are now using carbon and graphite arrows. I do not understand that. That would be compareable to shooting wood arrows from my compound!

[Thunderflight]

..............................Says Hoot.

I agree. A lot of this so called traditional equipment is only traditional in appearance.

I hear a lot of so called traditonal shooters are now using carbon and graphite arrows. I do not understand that. That would be compareable to shooting wood arrows from my compound!

We prefer to be called "modern traditional shooters".;)

[coonskinner]

a lot of trads,especially the young ones have a lot of" compound mentality"baggage still with them...most i see that use the super tech. stuff hasnt been out of the compound ranks long...as they age into the trad. ranks you see them shirking the old baggage...they go from recurve to longbow...they throw away the carbons for woodies...next thing you know the guy that owned a mathews 10 yrs. ago is now making his own laminated bows or selfbows...sooner or later if they stay in trad...that old compound baggage will be thrown away...especially the limbsavers...:mischeif:

[Thisbucks4u]

LMAO. You guys are great. Anywhere else, this would have reached the nuclear melt down point by now.

[Thunderflight]

a lot of trads,especially the young ones have a lot of" compound mentality"baggage still with them...most i see that use the super tech. stuff hasnt been out of the compound ranks long...as they age into the trad. ranks you see them shirking the old baggage...they go from recurve to longbow...they throw away the carbons for woodies...next thing you know the guy that owned a mathews 10 yrs. ago is now making his own laminated bows or selfbows...sooner or later if they stay in trad...that old compound baggage will be thrown away...especially the limbsavers...:mischeif:

That would be me.:whistle: :whistle: ;) :bouncy:

[Thisbucks4u]

Yep, me too. I just like to intentionally hit what im shooting at. Dont think I will ever shirk any of the baggage though. A lot of it actually works. LOL.

[Ross Co. Bowhunter]

You can count me in that category too.:) I’ve went from one extreme (peep sight, kisser button, sights pins, overdraw and release) to the other (stick & string:coolgleamA: ). Still struggling with the accuracy but I am improving. I read a couple of books last week on instinctive shooting and it helped shrink my grouping. I tried to find this point on thing :confused: for my bow the other day and it didn’t go well because I ended up sticking an arrow in my neighbor’s tree.:yikes: Moved back up to 15 yards and went back to working on arrow flight and form.:bouncy: :bouncy:

[hoot gibson]

i have said for the last 30 years , if you aint a good shot , you gotta be a good sneeker.. h

[coonskinner]

That would be me.:whistle: :whistle: ;) :bouncy:


i cant wait to see your first selfbow or laminated bow you built...:mischeif:

[Thunderflight]

i cant wait to see your first selfbow or laminated bow you built...:mischeif:

Me too. I wanted to try and build a laminated bow this year, but I don't have the time, money, or patience.

[Thunderflight]

You can count me in that category too.:) I’ve went from one extreme (peep sight, kisser button, sights pins, overdraw and release) to the other (stick & string:coolgleamA: ). Still struggling with the accuracy but I am improving. I read a couple of books last week on instinctive shooting and it helped shrink my grouping. I tried to find this point on thing :confused: for my bow the other day and it didn’t go well because I ended up sticking an arrow in my neighbor’s tree.:yikes: Moved back up to 15 yards and went back to working on arrow flight and form.:bouncy: :bouncy:

I've nailed my neighbors fence a few times.

[coonskinner]

i have said for the last 30 years , if you aint a good shot , you gotta be a good sneeker.. h



yes i know,i have been reduced to being a sneekier bushwhacker... :mischeif:

[hoot gibson]

when i was a younger man . i never went to the trees , i can remember having a couple so close to me on the ground , i would swear they could here me breathing .. h

[coonskinner]

i am thinking bout putting a single pin c. merrel site on this 1961 bear kodiak...:mischeif:

[Flaming Arrow]

If you going to use sites, and take the easy road, then you may as well shoot a compound device or crossbow.

[COB]

If you going to use sites, and take the easy road, then you may as well shoot a compound device or crossbow.

From a die hard instictive shooter, there is nothing wrong with sights. If you need them use them, but, there is always a but you know. I know of no better feeling that looking a spot, drawing, anchoring, releasing, and hitting that very spot!

[hunTer06]

I've nailed my neighbors fence a few times.

You wouldnt believe the number of times Ive put holes in the neighbors fence. :whistle: Ive even had some bounce and go OVER the fence:yikes: .

[Thunderflight]

You wouldnt believe the number of times Ive put holes in the neighbors fence. :whistle: Ive even had some bounce and go OVER the fence:yikes: .

Yelp done that too.

[hunTer06]

Yelp done that too.

You ever had them come knocking on your door, holding an arrow in their hand? I just blame it on dad...:shhh:

[coonskinner]

You ever had them come knocking on your door, holding an arrow in their hand? I just blame it on dad...:shhh:
i admit i'm not a great shot but i never miss the backstop...and my arrows are always in a basketball sized area...unless i'm being watched...:mischeif:

[Thunderflight]

You ever had them come knocking on your door, holding an arrow in their hand? I just blame it on dad...:shhh:

No, but I've had to knock on their door to get access to their back yard because my arrow with through the 1/4 inch gap in their privacy fence boards.

[CStan]

glad I don't live behind you guys :yikes: I wouldn't like seeing arrows flyin towards me :D

[coonskinner]

yup i agree cstan...:mischeif:

[Thunderflight]

glad I don't live behind you guys :yikes: I wouldn't like seeing arrows flyin towards me :D

My neighbors fear me.

[Ross Co. Bowhunter]

Mine has started shooting with me and he has never shot before. Now I have him talked into helping me make a bow. He is an excellent wood worker and makes his own funiture. His collection of exotic woods is very impressive. Our goal is to make one from bubinga(?), curly maple and maybe even use some hickory. Actually we are making 2 one for me and one for him. By the way did I mention I got it bad!!!:D

[coonskinner]

now if its an old 1960s bow...if you do decide to use a sight...poleeze...dont use a modern sight...use one from the 60's like a c merril...:mischeif: