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mrex
12-22-2005, 02:55 PM
In the New York Times no less....
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> For Environmental Balance, Pick Up a Rifle
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> By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF (NYT) 813 words
> Published: December 4, 2005
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> Here's a quick quiz: Which large American mammal kills the most humans
> each year?
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> It's not the bear, which kills about two people a year in North
> America. Nor is it the wolf, which in modern times hasn't killed
> anyone in this country. It's not the cougar, which kills one person
> every year or two.
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> Rather, it's the deer. Unchecked by predators, deer populations are
> exploding in a way that is profoundly unnatural and that is destroying
> the ecosystem in many parts of the country. In a wilderness, there
> might be 10 deer per square mile; in parts of New Jersey, there are up
> to 200 per square mile.
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> One result is ticks and Lyme disease, but deer also kill people more
> directly. A study for the insurance industry estimated that deer kill
> about 150 people a year in car crashes nationwide and cause $1 billion
> in damage. Granted, deer aren't stalking us, and they come out worse
> in these collisions -- but it's still true that in a typical year, an
> American is less likely to be killed by Osama bin Laden than by Bambi.
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> If the symbol of the environment's being out of whack in the 1960's
> was the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland catching fire, one such symbol
> today is deer congregating around what they think of as salad bars and
> what we think of as suburbs.
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> So what do we do? Let's bring back hunting.
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> Now, you've probably just spilled your coffee. These days, among the
> university-educated crowd in the cities, hunting is viewed as > barbaric.
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> The upshot is that towns in New York and New Jersey are talking about
> using birth control to keep deer populations down. (Liberals
> presumably support free condoms, while conservatives back abstinence
> education.) Deer contraception hasn't been very successful, though.
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> Meanwhile, the same population bomb has spread to bears. A bear hunt
> has been scheduled for this week in New Jersey -- prompting outrage
> from some animal rights groups (there's also talk of bear
> contraception: make love, not cubs).
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> As for deer, partly because hunting is perceived as brutal and vaguely
> psychopathic, towns are taking out contracts on deer through discreet
> private companies. Greenwich, Conn., budgeted $47,000 this year to pay
> a company to shoot 80 deer from raised platforms over four nights --
> as well as $8,000 for deer birth control.
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> Look, this is ridiculous.
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> We have an environmental imbalance caused in part by the decline of
> hunting. Humans first wiped out certain predators -- like wolves and
> cougars -- but then expanded their own role as predators to sustain a
> rough ecological balance. These days, though, hunters are on the
> decline.
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> According to ''Families Afield: An Initiative for the Future of
> Hunting,'' a report by an alliance of shooting organizations, for
> every 100 hunters who die or stop hunting, only 69 hunters take their
> place.
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> I was raised on ''Bambi'' -- but also, as an Oregon farm boy, on
> venison and elk meat. But deer are not pets, and dead deer are as
> natural as live deer. To wring one's hands over them, perhaps after
> polishing off a hamburger, is soggy sentimentality.
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> What's the alternative to hunting? Is it preferable that deer die of
> disease and hunger? Or, as the editor of Adirondack Explorer magazine
> suggested, do we introduce wolves into the burbs?
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> To their credit, many environmentalists agree that hunting can be
> green. The New Jersey Audubon Society this year advocated deer hunting
> as an ecological necessity.
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> There's another reason to encourage hunting: it connects people with
> the outdoors and creates a broader constituency for wilderness
> preservation. At a time when America's wilderness is being gobbled
> away for logging, mining or oil drilling, that's a huge boon.
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> Granted, hunting isn't advisable in suburban backyards, and I don't
> expect many soccer moms to install gun racks in their minivans. But
> it's an abdication of environmental responsibility to eliminate other
> predators and then refuse to assume the job ourselves. In that case,
> the collisions with humans will simply get worse.
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> In October, for example, Wayne Goldsberry was sitting in a home in
> northwestern Arkansas when he heard glass breaking in the next room.
> It was a home invasion -- by a buck.
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> Mr. Goldsberry, who is six feet one inch and weighs 200 pounds,
> wrestled with the intruder for 40 minutes. Blood spattered the walls
> before he managed to break the buck's neck.
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> So it's time to reestablish a balance in the natural world -- by
> accepting the idea that hunting is as natural as bird-watching.
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> Gary R. Goff
> 104 Fernow Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853.
> ph. 607/255-2824; fax 607/255-2815; e-mail: grg3@cornell.edu
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> BZ Marranca
> Research Technician
> Urban Horticulture Institute
> Kenneth Post Lab
> Tower Road




It's Not A Passion..
12-22-2005, 03:13 PM
Great article.

coonskinner
12-22-2005, 03:15 PM
very true,we had an instance here in columbus last year when a deer went thru a guys window pinning him...not too far from where i live...

SP Scout
12-22-2005, 03:16 PM
Great article.

Jeff Goebel
12-22-2005, 03:56 PM
That was in the Times??? LOL!!! If the cougers keep eatin' joggers in San Bernadino, and the grizzlies keep chewin' up tree huggers in Jackson Hole, us conservationalists may be back in demand...
On a more somber note. I have hunted Pennslyvania's Northern Tier every year for the past 16 years. I hunt a private deer camp with 30 members (20 of which are active). 4 of these guys have been positively diagnosed with Lyme disease. One of my best friends and huntin' buddies here in Southern Ohio has just been diagnosed this fall. He actually has to go to PA for treatment. I am in the process of diagnosis right now at OSU. Diagnosis for Lyme disease or almost any neuro disease is very slow and complicated. Ohio medicine is not very Lyme informed yet. But I assure you that you will be hearing more about Lyme in the future. I ain't tryin' to hijack you're thread Mike, just givin' a little heads up to you boys. Take precautions. Goeb:( ttt

mrex
12-22-2005, 11:12 PM
Jeff,

I can sympathize with your lyme scare. About 5 years ago, I developed some unexplainabe neuro issues. The neurologists first suspected MS as I have an uncle with this disease making me 5 times more susceptable. The focus then turned to ALS, which is always a death sentence and scared the #@$%# out of me. After about a year, the symptoms disapeared, only to return with a vengeance, ruling out ALS but pointed towards lymes. I've since been pretty much symptom free for over 3 years. I'd like to believe those spiroquetes (spelling) can't lay dormant for 3 years. I remember getting some really good info from Harvard MGH neuro forum.

Good Luck,

Mike

Jeff Goebel
12-23-2005, 03:24 AM
Mike, that sounds like a page out of my book. I've also had little or no problems for about a year. Thanks for the tip. Goeb